[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[TanteStefana2]

apparently Bitfinex reopened trading for dash and if you want to buy via fiat, there is apparently good opportunity there (good prices)  ATM

[qwizzie]

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-market-trading-dash-again/

 

[Cryptorials]

incoming transactions on poloniex
 DASH for                                      12-13 min
 Monero                                          17-18 min
 Decred                                           19-20 min
 Eth                                                 9-10 min
 bicoin ( with '' zero confirmation'' )     30-40 min

think that with the lapping and polishing of platforms and systems drift Deposit on different resources this time to be reduced by half, the eth can be up to 1-2 minutes, but bitcoin so stay with 30 minutes, on the condition not to play "dirty games"

Bitcoin may well take 30-40 minutes to confirm on Poloniex, but that is definitely not with zero confirmations. Zero confirmations is usually a couple of seconds at the most.

[Macrochip]

Apparently in an effort to "alleviate" Bitcoin's scaling problems some miners have decided to intentionally mine empty blocks defrauding the network of the block reward:



https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/something-odd-happening-bitcoins-largest-mining-pool/

This is a great case for collateralized mining as planned in Dash Evolution. You'd be shooting your own foot with practices like that, if you have to hold the currency you're messing with.

[afbitcoins]

Does anything need to be done on sentinel with 12.1.3 ? I'm guessing not but thought some knowledgeable person might confirm

[qwizzie]

Does anything need to be done on sentinel with 12.1.3 ? I'm guessing not but thought some knowledgeable person might confirm

If you already updated sentinel to version 1.0.1 with previous update 12.1.2 then nothing needs to be done.
Otherwise you need to update sentinel through git pull

if you installed sentinel in .dashcore the update command would be cd .dashcore/sentinel && git pull
if you installed sentinel in home then the update command would most likely be cd sentinel && git pull

(it does not really matter where you install sentinel)

Dashninja.pl has been updated to show both latest Dash version and latest sentinel version, so you can use that site to determine if sentinel needs to be updated as well.

[afbitcoins]

Does anything need to be done on sentinel with 12.1.3 ? I'm guessing not but thought some knowledgeable person might confirm

If you already updated sentinel to version 1.0.1 with previous update 12.1.2 then nothing needs to be done.
Otherwise you need to update sentinel through git pull

if you installed sentinel in .dashcore the update command would be cd .dashcore/sentinel && git pull
if you installed sentinel in home then the update command would most likely be cd sentinel && git pull

(it does not really matter where you install sentinel)

Dashninja.pl has been updated to show both latest Dash version and latest sentinel version, so you can use that site to determine if sentinel needs to be updated as well.

Thanks quizzie 

[HR]

"Note that you don’t need to be the owner of a masternode to see these logs. Most of the masternodes are hosted on cloudhosting services. If a government demands access to these logs, they will probably get it. It’s entirely possible that right now the NSA is spying on the majority of masternodes without the owners even knowing their masternodes are being spied upon."

Just one of many grave examples that eliminate from the competition. Good reading (and viewing).

Thanks for everything you guys have shared.


When it sounds too good to be true . . . when it's touted as everyone's nirvana . . .

. . . it's probably pie in the sky.

 


(Wonder if this quote and opinion/conclusion will get me put on the almighty ignore list. Hey guys, chill a bit. It's only one person's analysis. If your product really is what you say it is, you should welcome comments like this since they give you an opportunity to shine by showing how wrong the analysis is - hopefully with reasonably intelligent arguments as I'd be the first to happily admit I'm wrong if you can objectively refute the scam accusations made against you.)

Sure to get me ignored. 

Warning: DASH privacy is worse than Bitcoin
http://weuse.cash/2016/10/26/warning-dash-privacy-is-worse-than-bitcoin/
This article analyses how DarkSend works and will explain why there’s absolutely no good  reason to use DASH for private transactions.

    
Why the darkcoin/dash/dashpay instamine matters
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0
March 22, 2015
smooth explains reasons Dash hasn't gone legitimate yet -- and it may not be the reasons you've been told elsewhere.


CryptoScam #4 - Dash (w/ "Really Cool Guy" Tone Vays) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U
Published on Feb 3, 2017

In this 4th Episode of CryptoScam we explore XCoin --- Darkcoin --- Dashpay. We spend a lot of time on the early days and the events surrounding the insta-mine. We then discuss the concepts of Master Nodes (which is a defacto PoS), DarkSend & InstantX, all of which are extraordinary claims to be useful. We then go into detail on the current promotional efforts by Dash to get adoptions and conclude with what future potential Dash has.

Thank you for posting those crucial links again.  That is all MUST READ INFO for noobs as well as existing Dash bagholders.

Here are some more important Dash Facts.

1.    Darkcoin had a problematic launch: 2 million Darkcoin were mined in the first day (incidentally, there are around 2 800 Darkcoin emitted daily right now, so that should give some level of contrast). This may not seem to relate to your question, but it is important to establish the legitimacy and technical competency of the developer. The fact that the block reward does not match either of the three block reward formulae published by the developer is worrying. This points to an outright scam at worst, pure incompetence at best.

2.    When dealing with a cryptocurrency you need to be able to cryptographically and mathematically prove a particular claim. So in the original Bitcoin whitepaper Satoshi was able to mathematically prove the validity of the longest chain rule. The rest of his cryptographic claims were backed by the papers he quotes (Adam Back's Hashcash paper in particular). Darkcoin has no cryptographic proofs of their claims. This is important, because a cryptocurrency is a manifestation of cryptographic theory, not the other way around. If you try and shoe-horn it the other way around you'll likely find your model unsafe under the most basic of assumptions.

3.    The developer seems to eschew well-defined, anti-fragile, and proven Bitcoin concepts (eg. building a model based on paying for services via micropayment channels) for bizarre models that are poorly implemented and fragile (eg. payments based on uptime make a MasterNode a ripe target for DDoS attacks null-routing that IP).

4.    I have seen no evidence that InstantX transactions are not susceptible to malleability. This means that it is trivially easy to disrupt every InstantX transaction, and the network will fall back to processing them as "normal" transactions.

5.    This malleability approach also allows for easy forking of the network if you own a subset of MasterNodes, whereby your malicious MasterNodes vote for both of your transactions and feed those votes to two groups of miners. The claim made in the InstantX "whitepaper" is that the conflicting messages will "cancel each other out", but once the network is forked that isn't the case, as half the conflicting messages won't even be received by the one part of the forked network. By continuing to run this group of malicious nodes, feeding sets of InstantX transactions that appear to be voted in as valid, you can keep the network split indefinitely.

6.    The entire basis for "anonymising" transactions is based on clients being online at a given point in time, which means that those clients are also open to leaking information via temporal association.

7.    The developer seems to have a grave lack of understanding when it comes to the danger of incentives. The clearest example of this is this table of MasterNode ROI. As you can clearly see, a MasterNode's ROI is substantially higher when there are fewer MasterNodes. Thus there is clear incentive for a MasterNode operator to systematically attack and destroy other MasterNodes, but not so much that the network ceases to exist. Just enough to double or triple his ROI. Incidentally, this is a self-fulfilling prophecy, as in a hypothetical future where Darkcoin is processing thousands of transactions an hour it will require quite a hefty server to act as a MasterNode. The fewer MasterNodes there are, the more work individual MasterNodes will have to do, which means that those run by non-technical people or on cheap VPS's will be the first to go, eventually leaving a group of big boys with big guns operating the remaining MasterNodes.

8.    We've already seen ample evidence of law enforcement turning seemingly anonymous people into informants (eg. Sabu), hacking servers, and infiltrating systems in other ways. It is safe to say that LEA could also outrightly purchase large portions of the MasterNode network. It is impossible to tell which MasterNodes are real and which are owned by LEA (in perpetuity). Unfortunately it appears that the developer's line of reasoning, with respects to "how much" privacy Darkcoin gives you, started with the assumption that a supermajority of the MasterNodes are honest / not being watched / not infiltrated by LEA. This leaves open a huge, gaping hole whereby all of the "mixing" MasterNodes are involved in can be revealed by an owned / compromised majority. I can guarantee that the bulk of all MasterNode operators do not know even the first piece of opsec required to keep from your tin from being tampered with.

9.    MasterNodes can be tricked into believing they can no longer accept new connections, simply by filling up all their file descriptors. It is somewhat trivial to force new connections to a group of MasterNodes under your control.

10.    The developer has no clue how dangerous and stupid it is to chain hashing algorithms, as you open them up to pre-image attacks among other things. As a security researcher who discovered a flaw in chained hashing algorithms in PHP concluded: "The underlying problem is that combining cryptographic operators that weren't designed to be combined can be disastrous. Is it possible to do so safely? Yes. Is it a good idea to do it? No. This particular case is just one example where combining operations can be exceedingly dangerous. But the bottom line: never roll your own crypto. It can have fatal consequences."

[wackyD]

Doesn't look good. Sold all my dash, will buy back once the bottom is reached.

lol doesn't look good so you are going to buy back in? That's somewhat contradictory isn't it? You sound smart - everyone listen to this guy!

 

bull shit. your story doesn't add up. lol

Careful, everyone, arielbit is an Alpha female from the monero camp - frequently comes on here to bash dash

She lost 11,000 monero at a gambling site, in a single bet - this is the high calibre of IQ you face; she feels she needs to take her loss out on us over here

and you are a rat, it is time to harvest you, from newb to full member, got quite fat really fast...into the rat cage you go! DASH - Love at first sight user accounts [Looking Beyond the Hype]

You are a low quality troll / marketer for morano.. Check the again list, kid - you can't even curate a list properly

[lesterdesa]

Can anyone suggest me a cloud site where i can mine DASH .

[TanteStefana2]

"Note that you don’t need to be the owner of a masternode to see these logs. Most of the masternodes are hosted on cloudhosting services. If a government demands access to these logs, they will probably get it. It’s entirely possible that right now the NSA is spying on the majority of masternodes without the owners even knowing their masternodes are being spied upon."

Just one of many grave examples that eliminate from the competition. Good reading (and viewing).

Thanks for everything you guys have shared.


When it sounds too good to be true . . . when it's touted as everyone's nirvana . . .

. . . it's probably pie in the sky.

 

What logs? debug log?  There are no logs, except the debug log.  What do you hope to find in the log?

[lesterdesa]

Can anyone suggest me a cloud site where i can mine DASH .

nicehash.com

Thx

[wackyD]

"Note that you don’t need to be the owner of a masternode to see these logs. Most of the masternodes are hosted on cloudhosting services. If a government demands access to these logs, they will probably get it. It’s entirely possible that right now the NSA is spying on the majority of masternodes without the owners even knowing their masternodes are being spied upon."

Just one of many grave examples that eliminate from the competition. Good reading (and viewing).

Thanks for everything you guys have shared.


When it sounds too good to be true . . . when it's touted as everyone's nirvana . . .

. . . it's probably pie in the sky.

 

What logs? debug log?  There are no logs, except the debug log.  What do you hope to find in the log?

Recycled FUD..
Either that or he's too stupid to look into things carefully

[AzzAz]

"Note that you don’t need to be the owner of a masternode to see these logs. Most of the masternodes are hosted on cloudhosting services. If a government demands access to these logs, they will probably get it. It’s entirely possible that right now the NSA is spying on the majority of masternodes without the owners even knowing their masternodes are being spied upon."

Just one of many grave examples that eliminate from the competition. Good reading (and viewing).

Thanks for everything you guys have shared.


When it sounds too good to be true . . . when it's touted as everyone's nirvana . . .

. . . it's probably pie in the sky.

 

What logs? debug log?  There are no logs, except the debug log.  What do you hope to find in the log?

Recycled FUD..
Either that or he's too stupid to look into things carefully

I would go with the too stupid option.  Ignorant as all f&^k

HR
 when you quote Icetroll - noone here will take you for serious.
That way you will not get any answer, but reading this tread will find all that answered many many times.

[wackyD]

"Note that you don’t need to be the owner of a masternode to see these logs. Most of the masternodes are hosted on cloudhosting services. If a government demands access to these logs, they will probably get it. It’s entirely possible that right now the NSA is spying on the majority of masternodes without the owners even knowing their masternodes are being spied upon."

Just one of many grave examples that eliminate from the competition. Good reading (and viewing).

Thanks for everything you guys have shared.


When it sounds too good to be true . . . when it's touted as everyone's nirvana . . .

. . . it's probably pie in the sky.

 

What logs? debug log?  There are no logs, except the debug log.  What do you hope to find in the log?

Recycled FUD..
Either that or he's too stupid to look into things carefully

I would go with the too stupid option.  Ignorant as all f&^k

And despite all these years of trolling and FUD'ing dash, not one of them has been able to break a mixed transaction; not one of them has been able to de-anonymise a transaction, ever.

That's proof of their lies and deceitful fear mongering right there, their fraudulent claims

[arielbit]

Doesn't look good. Sold all my dash, will buy back once the bottom is reached.

lol doesn't look good so you are going to buy back in? That's somewhat contradictory isn't it? You sound smart - everyone listen to this guy!

 

bull shit. your story doesn't add up. lol

Careful, everyone, arielbit is an Alpha female from the monero camp - frequently comes on here to bash dash

She lost 11,000 monero at a gambling site, in a single bet - this is the high calibre of IQ you face; she feels she needs to take her loss out on us over here

and you are a rat, it is time to harvest you, from newb to full member, got quite fat really fast...into the rat cage you go! DASH - Love at first sight user accounts [Looking Beyond the Hype]

You are a low quality troll / marketer for morano.. Check the again list, kid - you can't even curate a list properly

and you are throwing useless comments on me while being unable to refute any facts I've posted (posts and topics) 

[bigrcanada1]

Happy Friday everyone in DASH nation.  If you have a minute...drop by and watch Amanda's latest youtube videos on DASH Detailed. 

[MasterMined710]

Dash added to Bitfinex !!
Thank you FandangledGizmo (--> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233119.msg18054378#msg18054378)

https://www.bitfinex.com/





That is one major exchange for free (Bitfinex), and one major exchange (unknown at this moment) still to go .....

Now i know many of you will be having mixed feelings about this, but i like to think of this as a recognition of Bitfinex that they made a mistake by de-listing Dash
in the past. In other words it is a compliment to our dev-team and perhaps even to our whole community.

Yes that is great news qwizzie! I have a plan to kick things off and Make Bitfinex Great Again 

Is there any news that just pushed the price past 33 USD ? +15% +20% against BTC in a few minutes ??

Successful fork to 12.1.2 Sentinel, next fork will be Evolution!
Major Exchange Integration in few weeks
Dash partnership with BlockPay
Dash partnership with BlockCypher
Wall of Coins Integration complete
New Dash offices at ASU Skysong.
Amanda B Johnson marketing Dash and getting noticed by long time Bitcoiners + Cryptopulco talk soon.
Dash added to General Bytes ATM Machines

Evolution development is full steam ahead.

Proposal: Business Development - Major Exchange

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-major-exchange.12881/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash into a major exchange with fiat trading.

Why Aren't We Seeing Greater Adoption of Cryptocurrency?
https://youtu.be/zrIul2OGsQE

Published on Jan 23, 2017
Ryan Taylor defines two reasons crypto hasn't gone mainstream yet -- and it may not be the reasons you've been told elsewhere. This is the speech delivered by the Director of Finance of Dash at The North American Bitcoin Conference, 2017.

Learn more by visiting http://dash.org

Original presentation here: https://youtu.be/Tn2s6IHAL4A

Get social with us:
- Dash Slack: http://dashnation.com/chat
- DASH: Detailed Homepage: http://dashdetailed.com
- DASH: Detailed Twitter: http://twitter.com/dashdetailed
- Dash Homepage: http://dash.org
- Dash Twitter: http://twitter.com/dashpay

Dash Nation slack invite
http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com/

Two things i don't want to get buried with all the Dash drama and the totally off topic trolling post.

LIVE Interview and QA: Amanda B. Johnson of DASH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRhi6_E8il4


This last one is really good, packed with info for the newbie's and old heads alike....
Dash: The new Cryptocurrency player with more Features than Bitcoin - Amanda Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d-DCRNAKiM

I like this one too...

Dash Unveils Largest Software Upgrade Since Inception
http://paymentweek.com/2017-2-6-dash-unveils-largest-software-upgrade-since-inception/

Another good one to add to my collection. This is huge and could potentially lead to purse.io, coinbase and many others integrating Dash!!!

Proposal: Business Development - BlockCypher Integration

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-blockcypher.13253/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash with BlockCypher, an API hot-wallet service.

More Great news...

I'm really glad to see that the law firm we've employed to research our compliance with US law is nearing completion.  Quoting Daniel:

"Many of our investors have been following this project closely and I can give you an advance by saying that the results of the research are very positive for masternode operators and they should not be concerned about any liability as the result of the transactions they relay or the mixing sessions they host under US law. Please give us a few days to process this information and prepare an official communication for the community."

Updates are posted here: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/legal-research-marco-santori-cooley-llp.12691/

Also, please note:  Daniel posted previously that they wouldn't be able to post the original memos, but that is no longer the case.  When the memo is completed, they will be posted directly, so that everyone can view them, not through a filter of the Dash Foundation.  So please don't worry about that.  Daniel is very busy and said he'll update the post eventually.  The core team are really working like busy bees!

[MasterMined710]

DashForce Bitfinex contest:


The Dash Biz Dev team has tasked DashForce with getting some traffic over to Bitfinex. They have just fired up Dash trading pairs again and need some liquidity on the buy side.
Here is how it will work, if you buy over $1000 in Dash you will get a 1 Dash tip, $500 and you get a 0.5 Dash tip. If you place an order that is higher than $250 you get a 0.25 tip.

So, after you place your order take a screenshot of that. Then, once someone fills your order take a screenshot of that. Upload your screenshots in the #dash_force slack channel and we will send you your reward. Simple as that!
Our budget for this contest is ~$500, so get over there quick and don't Slack
Help us Make Bitfinex Great Again! 


Bitfinex
https://www.bitfinex.com/trading/DSHBTC

Dash Nation slack invite
http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com/

#dash_force slack channel
https://dashnation.slack.com/messages/dash_force/details/

*This is not the major exchange that was announced last month, that is still in the works.

[arielbit]

https://www.bitfinex.com/trading/DSHBTC

wow another exchange using DSH as ticker symbol for DASH

i'm making an altcoin topic about Darkcoin rebranding and stealing Dashcoin name for reference purposes...this is loooong over due, stay tuned folks