[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[electronicash]

someone already tried to dumped their dash and it went back up again lol i hope he bought it back quickly as possible or he lose it this time.  if he panics the buyers can get it cheaper than they were expecting.

Bitfinex just opened margin trading for Dash. Please support it by offering Dash for lending. Go have fun!

sounds like there is no stopping anymore. if I'd be offering mine there i should be able to make more money through it. haven't got any account form them yet. are they like kraken that they don't ask IDs for tier 1? If they do asks IDs for all, i'd rather not. but good thing though.

They don't ask for IDs unless you want to deposit or withdraw FIAT.  You don't need it for pure crypto trading.

just registered.
sorry icebreaker i get to fud too but this time i'm riding  

[qwizzie]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1079682.0


Lets not forget Icetroll has traded and shorted Dash in the past, he is probably trying to short Dash as we speak.
Lets face it, he would short his own mom-coin if he could   

[TanteStefana2]

Dash Surges to Record High, Claims $0.5 Mln Monthly Development Budget

By the end of the year, the cryptocurrency landscape could look radically different. Robert Genito, project lead for Wall of Coins, believes that Dash will end up at the head of the cryptocurrency pack:

"Technology moves quickly, obviously and so do cryptocurrencies, perhaps even faster. However, a market of people and their decisions can move even faster, and I truly believe that by the end of this year Dash will overcome Bitcoin entirely."

Woooooh, that's bolder than anything I've ever said! I'm both impressed someone else made a bolder statement than myself, and disappointed in myself, LOL.  Nice someone else believes in Dash as much as I do!

[TanteStefana2]

Let me get this straight, you're really so narcissistic that you believe that Dash is being pumped by the foundation to annoy you and make you look wrong? I think you may need to take a step outside and get some air.

Actually, we just use the ignore button, but I do thank you for this quote because I needed a great laugh   Thanks!

[Biltong]

Bitfinex just opened margin trading for Dash. Please support it by offering Dash for lending. Go have fun!

Read somewhere that Bitfinex owners can not be found on their website and the journalist could not find out anything about them. They also got hacked last year. Any info on this? I'm looking for 4 exchanges where I can do split my coins (BTC/DASH/ETH) safely and also do lending.

[ddink7]

Bitfinex just opened margin trading for Dash. Please support it by offering Dash for lending. Go have fun!

Read somewhere that Bitfinex owners can not be found on their website and the journalist could not find out anything about them. They also got hacked last year. Any info on this? I'm looking for 4 exchanges where I can do split my coins (BTC/DASH/ETH) safely and also do lending.

I don't know a ton about them. They did get hacked, which means they probably are one of the safer sites now (in my opinion). Usually the response to a security incident is to improve security beyond the level of your competition. They also issued tokens to reimburse (over time) those who lost funds. They've redeemed a pretty large number of those tokens too, I think.

Considering they could have just closed their doors and declared bankruptcy, I think their effort to make everybody whole is admirable.

[ddink7]

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

Icebreaker, could you ask the Monero dev team to refund my 0.25 DASH that I donated last year? One year later, and that $1 donation is now worth $10.96, and I'd really like it back.

Cheers!

Icebreaker, I haven't heard back from you. The 0.25 DASH I donated to the Monero dev team last year ($1 at the time) is now worth $19.25. Since you never were able to de-anonymize it, I'd really like a refund.

[dafdaf]

Icebreaker, I haven't heard back from you. The 0.25 DASH I donated to the Monero dev team last year ($1 at the time) is now worth $19.25. Since you never were able to de-anonymize it, I'd really like a refund.

Icebreaker has scammed many newbies over the years, advising them not to buy Dash. He should be sued by them. And now, as a shady after-sales service man, he won't give your 0.25 DASH back, even if he sold you a promised PrivateSend deanonymization, you naive customer.

[HR]

Just to update everyone on my situation with a Poloniex withdrawal being "hijacked:"

Today I learned that BTC-e will reveal private user information to anybody who asks, but will not recover funds.

Let me explain.

The hacker withdrew the stolen funds to XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh (TX ID: 9f70b83243a890daa85c279e409feb36db40238427220551f392e1dcdb4c5712) and from there to XtM1U21eqWu7JPmKscJeHod74EqR4A6bFS (TX ID: e2e2c4b7dd31f4af1280f626468b1878ea12f9e0b5344f5d4296f78ead84ab6d). Poloniex has been very helpful every step of the way, and the informed me that XtM1U21eqWu7JPmKscJeHod74EqR4A6bFS is a BTC-e address and gave me BTC-e's email address.

I contacted BTC-e and explained everything, and asked that they contact Poloniex for verification that what I said was true and that the funds really were stolen. At first BTC-e was very helpful; I asked if they could see which user deposited funds in XtM1U21eqWu7JPmKscJeHod74EqR4A6bFS and they told me (ltcexchange) and even gave me his email address. This was much more than I had hoped for--I assumed they wouldn't release any information about their users. I then asked if he had any funds that they could confiscate and return to me. BTC-e replied that yes, he had funds in his BTC-e account, but that they had to unfreeze the account because he told them that he didn't steal anything. I asked BTC-e to contact Poloniex and gave them my ticket number, but for whatever reason they refuse to do so.

So they don't believe me when I tell them the funds are stolen and they won't even make an attempt to verify with Poloniex. Fine. But they're going to give user information to any random person that asks?

I'm afraid that's the end of the story. I cannot recover my funds, which I accept. However, I did learn that BTC-e will reveal the identity of their user's upon request. If you trade there, beware.

That's what "dark" gets you. Privacy comes at a cost. Like everything in life.

[ddink7]

Icebreaker, I haven't heard back from you. The 0.25 DASH I donated to the Monero dev team last year ($1 at the time) is now worth $19.25. Since you never were able to de-anonymize it, I'd really like a refund.

Icebreaker has scammed many newbies over the years, advising them not to buy Dash. He should be sued by them. And now, as a shady after-sales service man, he won't give your 0.25 DASH back, even if he sold you a promised PrivateSend deanonymization, you naive customer.

Just a tongue-in-cheek reminder that we've increased in value 20-fold since January of last year, despite his assurances that PrivateSend is "broken."

[minero1]

Icebreaker, I haven't heard back from you. The 0.25 DASH I donated to the Monero dev team last year ($1 at the time) is now worth $19.25. Since you never were able to de-anonymize it, I'd really like a refund.

Icebreaker has scammed many newbies over the years, advising them not to buy Dash. He should be sued by them. And now, as a shady after-sales service man, he won't give your 0.25 DASH back, even if he sold you a promised PrivateSend deanonymization, you naive customer.

Just a tongue-in-cheek reminder that we've increased in value 20-fold since January of last year, despite his assurances that PrivateSend is "broken."

So when is the party going to be over. A month or two from now?

[TanteStefana2]

Icebreaker, I haven't heard back from you. The 0.25 DASH I donated to the Monero dev team last year ($1 at the time) is now worth $19.25. Since you never were able to de-anonymize it, I'd really like a refund.

Icebreaker has scammed many newbies over the years, advising them not to buy Dash. He should be sued by them. And now, as a shady after-sales service man, he won't give your 0.25 DASH back, even if he sold you a promised PrivateSend deanonymization, you naive customer.

Just a tongue-in-cheek reminder that we've increased in value 20-fold since January of last year, despite his assurances that PrivateSend is "broken."

So when is the party going to be over. A month or two from now?

My opinions, not financial advice!:

Not for many many years.  We have an entire world's worth of fiat to conquer.  Seriously, if you're just skeptical, do yourself a favor and research Dash.  Then think on it, it's built with game theory, economics, cryptography, and logic.  It works like a well oiled machine because of all the thought that went into it.  Then look at the fact that it's self governing and self budgeted, no centralized authority can take it over, due to control of the mining or the developers.  Then look at the talent in our team, our 40+ person "core team"  Our hundreds of volunteers.

Then read Hayek on the idea of currency competition https://mises.org/library/denationalisation-money-argument-refined) he wrote that before the idea of computer money could happen.  Yet, it explains how this was the only way out of badly managed money by centralized governmental institutions.  On top of that, it's also the best way we the people will get the Government to SERVE the people rather than enslaving the people.  Without this revolution, the free western world as we knew it, or think we still live in today, will be gone forever.

Yes, the price will go up for many many years, and when that ends, and fiat is destroyed, it will go up and down against all the other crypto currencies it competes against.  As it should be.  Good money will out


OK, so make sure you understand that THESE ARE MY OPINIONS and not to be construed as financial advice.  Though researching couldn't hurt you, unless your head explodes

[ddink7]

Icebreaker, I haven't heard back from you. The 0.25 DASH I donated to the Monero dev team last year ($1 at the time) is now worth $19.25. Since you never were able to de-anonymize it, I'd really like a refund.

Icebreaker has scammed many newbies over the years, advising them not to buy Dash. He should be sued by them. And now, as a shady after-sales service man, he won't give your 0.25 DASH back, even if he sold you a promised PrivateSend deanonymization, you naive customer.

Just a tongue-in-cheek reminder that we've increased in value 20-fold since January of last year, despite his assurances that PrivateSend is "broken."

So when is the party going to be over. A month or two from now?

Which party?

Short-term: No, this rate of increase is not sustainable. When both ETH and XMR hit their big bubbles last year, their price ended up settling at about half the "peak" value (and for ETH, triggered a major bull market, although they've yet to hit their highs again). For DASH, the question of course is "what will this peak value be?" If we stop here and reverse, then we should settle around .033 (just over $40). If we keep going up, then obviously that number would change. On the other hand, when BTC bubbled in late 2013, the bursting triggered a major bear market. So basically, nobody knows. (Wild guess? Between .08 and .1 as the peak, settling back into the .04 - .05 area long-term.)

Long-term: We have a budget system that creates a positive feedback loop. At the current prices, we have $500,000 per month to use to develop Dash, grow the ecosystem, fund integrations, etc. That's $6 million per year! Even if we reversed to .033 and stabilized around there, we still would have a $3 million annual budget. Bitcoin grew very slowly over the years as new companies had to be created to facilitate it (exchanges, merchant services, APIs). Now that all those things already exist for Bitcoin, and since Dash shares Bitcoin's code base, we can pay integration costs to those existing providers and bootstrap our growth. The potential is enormous. (Wild guess? About PayPal's marketcap, $50 billion, or approx. $5,000 per coin...assuming 10 million coins in existence when we hit this level.)

[iCEBREAKER]

Please, Icebreaker if you keep on posting Dash will still continue to go up.

Yes, I realize THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. responds to my posts by rage-pumping Dash and rage-shorting Monero.

In fact, I'm counting on that. They will run out of money eventually.  The sooner we get the Dash bubble over with the better.

Nobody shorts Moneron because nobody cares. It is folks like you or even dumber: folks who listen to guys like you who hate-short Dash for almost a month now and they got fleeced. XMR lending is almost non existent on Polo.

You  are confusing me with someone else.

I am among the many who maintain that the Dash market is fundamentally distorted by the Masternode Ponzi scheme and acutely manipulated by Instamine-funded whales.

In such an unideal market, it is unwise to short expecting a near-term reversion to the (less irrational) mean.

This is exactly why I refer to Dash as a set of high-stakes poker chips for crypto-mobster wise guys like Otoh, BigRich, Edward Moncada, and Evan the Instaminer while cautioning the community that Dash is best avoided by hapless/greedy/credulous lightweights who cannot afford to be gambling with life-changing (and indeed posterity-altering) amounts of wealth.

[volyova]

Please, Icebreaker if you keep on posting Dash will still continue to go up.

Yes, I realize THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. responds to my posts by rage-pumping Dash and rage-shorting Monero.

In fact, I'm counting on that. They will run out of money eventually.  The sooner we get the Dash bubble over with the better.

Nobody shorts Moneron because nobody cares. It is folks like you or even dumber: folks who listen to guys like you who hate-short Dash for almost a month now and they got fleeced. XMR lending is almost non existent on Polo.

You  are confusing me with someone else.

I am among the many who maintain that the Dash market is fundamentally distorted by the Masternode Ponzi scheme and acutely manipulated by Instamine-funded whales.

In such an unideal market, it is unwise to short expecting a near-term reversion to the (less irrational) mean.

This is exactly why I refer to Dash as a set of high-stakes poker chips for crypto-mobster wise guys like Otoh, BigRich, Edward Moncada, and Evan the Instaminer while cautioning the community that Dash is best avoided by hapless/greedy/credulous lightweights who cannot afford to be gambling with life-changing (and indeed posterity-altering) amounts of wealth.

Best avoided by everybody not within the inner circle. If you like to sleep at night, don't buy Dash, because you will wake up in the poor house.

[jiggytom]

Please, Icebreaker if you keep on posting Dash will still continue to go up.

Yes, I realize THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. responds to my posts by rage-pumping Dash and rage-shorting Monero.

In fact, I'm counting on that. They will run out of money eventually.  The sooner we get the Dash bubble over with the better.

Nobody shorts Moneron because nobody cares. It is folks like you or even dumber: folks who listen to guys like you who hate-short Dash for almost a month now and they got fleeced. XMR lending is almost non existent on Polo.

You  are confusing me with someone else.

I am among the many who maintain that the Dash market is fundamentally distorted by the Masternode Ponzi scheme and acutely manipulated by Instamine-funded whales.

In such an unideal market, it is unwise to short expecting a near-term reversion to the (less irrational) mean.

This is exactly why I refer to Dash as a set of high-stakes poker chips for crypto-mobster wise guys like Otoh, BigRich, Edward Moncada, and Evan the Instaminer while cautioning the community that Dash is best avoided by hapless/greedy/credulous lightweights who cannot afford to be gambling with life-changing (and indeed posterity-altering) amounts of wealth.

Best avoided by everybody not within the inner circle. If you like to sleep at night, don't buy Dash, because you will wake up in the poor house.

I've been waking up richer everyday, so not sure what the fud here is.

[Rakete4]

We're decided we're going to be changing the name of XCoin to something else. It's already kind of confusing to search for XCoin on Google and we want to differentiate ourselves from the other company using the name.

We thought it might be fun to actually let the community suggest the future name for XCoin. Any ideas? 

Ps. The blockchain will stay intact, and it's merely a domain name change, some strings in the client, and the images.

Ps2. The addresses will still start with X, so keep that in mind for the suggestions

The winner gets 1000XCO! Let the competition begin.

I vote for Scamcoin (SCAM)

[Rakete4]

I really like the name Darkcoin, but there's another coin that hasn't launched yet. I wonder if we could take it?

Blackcoin?

That's not bad. I still like darkcoin better:

So we have

Darkcoin, Blackcoin, X-11 (x11coin)

+1 on darkcoin

Bought darkcoin.io, I really like it and it suits the coin's goals.

No, Evan. Monero will have better privacy, but you didn't know that yet at this point. So later you changed to "Dash". Yay, how sensical!

[bigrcanada1]

I see the retarded monerons are still at it. I think all the potential investors that may have invested with DASH but didn't because of these scammers should start a law suit against monerons for robbing them of a great opportunity.  Put I suppose that is what you get for listening to the biggest scamming scum of crypto.

[tungfa]

Dash Surges to Record High, Claims $0.5 Mln Monthly Development Budget

https://cointelegraph.com/news/dash-surges-to-record-high-claims-05-mln-monthly-development-budget