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[Otoh]

whats going on guys I have phone alarms going off all over the place

buywalls have been pulled

nope.. they were set back to 0.011 due to some heavy dumping

The retrace target is 0.01 so I moved them from 0.012 to 0.011 (0.01 on finex and increased the wall size by 50 BTC), this is a healthy correction and I have BTC on hand for a market buy at these levels if I feel it's at a good price.

i like your enthusiasm about DRK, nevertheless i dont like that it looks like this whole rally seems to be funded by your walls. remove your walls and we are back at 0.006.

I follow the price up and prevent any excessive dumping down of the price, it gives some safety net on rises but I'm quite conservative and careful not to let things overheat, hence the very small adjustment of the walls now to be more in tune with market retrace targets.

This probably helps to avoid large pumps, because with the dump side potential locked down it becomes less of an opportunity to risk trying to pull off.

[dewdeded]

do you want the answers from us or from the dev team ? to avoid any confusion

A from us/you & B from the dev team

in what time-period do you want those answers ?

B yesterday

[WestHarrison]

OK guys - im sorry about this. ill try to make it as simple as possible (bearing in mind i dont wanna read all the literature here).

A. How long after I receive an IntantX tx can I re-spend the SAME funds?
B. Do MN's generate their own tokems to facilitate the re-spend "prematurely" ?
C. If not B (see above) how can tx's be properly verified without a token substrate after only 1 confirm?

D. Assuming B. and C. are good: Do MN's see all flow of traffic in DRK. i.e. Do MN's "see" basic DRK>DRk spends??

do you want the answers from us or from the dev team ? to avoid any confusion

A from us
B from the dev team
C from God

in what time-period do you want those answers ?

A take your time
B yesterday
C i have to think about it

how do you want those answers ?

A per mail
B per letter
C through InstantX

Will you be satisfied with those answers ?

A yes
B no
C maybe

This is standard SDC guys behavior. There is no winning answer.  Next move is for them to make 10 threads claiming scam this scam that.

[ddink7]

i like your enthusiasm about DRK, nevertheless i dont like that it looks like this whole rally seems to be funded by your walls. remove your walls and we are back at 0.006.

I'm sure InstantX had nothing to do with it.

[qwizzie]

do you want the answers from us or from the dev team ? to avoid any confusion

A from us/you & B from the dev team

in what time-period do you want those answers ?

B yesterday

let me get back to you once yesterday arrives..

[splawik21]

YVW! I've also added a new wall of 16,812 DRK @ $2.50 on finex btw

http://dc-charts.com/depth_drk.php?ex=9&cu=1

Confirmed

[ImI]

i like your enthusiasm about DRK, nevertheless i dont like that it looks like this whole rally seems to be funded by your walls. remove your walls and we are back at 0.006.

I'm sure InstantX had nothing to do with it.

instantX is great! but without those buywalls we are heading down to sub 0.01 again. just my 2 drk.

[Minotaur26]

OK guys - im sorry about this. ill try to make it as simple as possible (bearing in mind i dont wanna read all the literature here).

A. How long after I receive an IntantX tx can I re-spend the SAME funds?
B. Do MN's generate their own tokems to facilitate the re-spend "prematurely" ?
C. If not B (see above) how can tx's be properly verified without a token substrate after only 1 confirm?

D. Assuming B. and C. are good: Do MN's see all flow of traffic in DRK. i.e. Do MN's "see" basic DRK>DRk spends??
Assuning they can re-spend after only 1 confirm then… yes?

A. You can spend the same inputs using a normal send after 1 block confirmation time. Should be 2.5mins or less.
B. No.
C. That is the invention, InstantX, or from the whitepaper Transaction Locking and Masternode Consensus. You can inform yourself here:https://www.darkcoin.io/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/InstantTX.pdf

D. No Masternodes have nothing to do with that, you can respend using a normal send transaction that would be mined. The network treats an InstantX as 5 confirmations so you can spend again those inputs after one proof of work confirmation. Nothing to do with the Masternodes seeing anything.

Edit: I am not a developer just sharing my understanding as a user.  The development team can answer more technically and you can talk to them as necessary.

Edit2: here is Darkcoin github if you are a developer and want to take a look. https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin

[Otoh]

YVW! I've also added a new wall of 16,812 DRK @ $2.50 on finex btw

http://dc-charts.com/depth_drk.php?ex=9&cu=1

Confirmed

[oaxaca]

... i dont wanna read all the literature here ...

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[Otoh]

i like your enthusiasm about DRK, nevertheless i dont like that it looks like this whole rally seems to be funded by your walls. remove your walls and we are back at 0.006.

I'm sure InstantX had nothing to do with it.

instantX is great! but without those buywalls we are heading down to sub 0.01 again. just my 2 drk.

Note that this rally has not been "funded" by my walls as very few have been sold in to and then by not much, ie the first 0.006 one was a bit - to test it I expect, they aren't going to be removed so speculating on what would happen if they were is fairly pointless, they are just a fact of the market.

[Lebubar]

lol.. At this guy.

Minotaur you warn us from fisrt post (that he like to prolongate discution to infinite), and still answer him?
If he don't want to read white paper forget about him.

Child harold :
A- He's stupid (and lazy).
B- He want to speak with Evan of his personals problems.
C- He's searching something, then after he'll explain that instantX is not good (depend on the answer he'll understand)
D- He's a troll.

[qwizzie]

lol.. At this guy.

Minotaur you warn us from fisrt post (that he like to prolongate discution to infinite), and still answer him?
If he don't want to read white paper forget about him.

Child harold :
A- He's stupid (and lazy).
B- He want to speak with Evan of his personals problems.
C- He's searching something, then after he'll explain that instantX is not good (depend on the answer he'll understand)
D- He's a troll.

E - He got bored in his own forum

[MasterMined710]

lol.. At this guy.

Minotaur you warn us from fisrt post (that he like to prolongate discution to infinite), and still answer him?
If he don't want to read white paper forget about him.

Child harold :
A- He's stupid (and lazy).
B- He want to speak with Evan of his personals problems.
C- He's searching something, then after he'll explain that instantX is not good (depend on the answer he'll understand)
D- He's a troll.

E - He's bored in his own forum

F - all of the above

[Minotaur26]

lol.. At this guy.

Minotaur you warn us from fisrt post (that he like to prolongate discution to infinite), and still answer him?
If he don't want to read white paper forget about him.

Child harold :
A- He's stupid (and lazy).
B- He want to speak with Evan of his personals problems.
C- He's searching something, then after he'll explain that instantX is not good (depend on the answer he'll understand)
D- He's a troll.

I won't reply anymore, I don't think there is anything left to say anyway.  I do think my last reply is a good summary and I have a feeling I am right. Someone from the dev team can correct if necessary.

[xxxgoodgirls]

i like your enthusiasm about DRK, nevertheless i dont like that it looks like this whole rally seems to be funded by your walls. remove your walls and we are back at 0.006.

I'm sure InstantX had nothing to do with it.

instantX is great! but without those buywalls we are heading down to sub 0.01 again. just my 2 drk.

Note that this rally has not been "funded" by my walls as very few have been sold in to and then by not much, ie the first 0.006 one, they aren't going to be removed so speculating on what would happen if they were is fairly pointless, they are just a fact of the market.

How many DRKs have you been collecting since the rally started?

[strix]

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whats the answer pls?

The one you don't like  

The question is how long must I wait before being able to spend the funds received through an InstantX tx?

Clearly there is no consensus on the answer.

Evan or Dev Team member pls?

C'mon - this is EASY…

Yes, the answer is easy... listening to you is not. As a teacher I admire and reward students who ask difficult questions which show a deep respect for the subject and a desire to truly understand. My syllabus makes clear I give extra credit to any student who catches me in an error, or helps me extend my knowledge by asking a question I cannot readily answer. However, I have no tolerance for bores who waste valuable class time attempting to inflate their stature by feigning confusion, while sporting a superior attitude implying that the teacher or text is the problem.

Congratulations sir, you have earned a place with Bobsurplus and shojayxt, on the very short list of persons whose sniveling I refuse to tolerate... Ignored!

[tombtc]

The walls are there and there is no reason to speculate about it. If 3 more people put some more walls, are we going to speculate how low would drk drop without them?

[Otoh]

i like your enthusiasm about DRK, nevertheless i dont like that it looks like this whole rally seems to be funded by your walls. remove your walls and we are back at 0.006.

I'm sure InstantX had nothing to do with it.

instantX is great! but without those buywalls we are heading down to sub 0.01 again. just my 2 drk.

Note that this rally has not been "funded" by my walls as very few have been sold in to and then by not much, ie the first 0.006 one, they aren't going to be removed so speculating on what would happen if they were is fairly pointless, they are just a fact of the market.

How many DRKs have you been collecting since the rally started?

Approx 8 to 10 MN worth, at least 8 anyway though the coins for those I bought at market. I plan to get those 8 live shortly all being well.

Edit: yep, I think about 8 MN worth, any more likely came from existing MN rewards.

[Walter_S]

In support of all the positive, back and forth constructive energy Child Harold has brought to the table, I feel honored to quote him in my signature. I have been procrastinating over sorting my sig out, but finally I have found something deserving. I even feel more inclined to "post like a bastard", now I can effortlessly reproduce these words without effort.

You see Harold, there was you thinking you can't inspire others with your positivity. Well I find your words inspiring and I want to share, share, share.


Share like I just don't care!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980

He's probably the dude to made the trade of the century selling 17K(?) DRK and buying the equivalent XPY a month back