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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722727 times)
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March 08, 2015, 08:31:41 PM
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I wanted to test the new '60 times faster' bitcoin 0.10.0 wallet against Darkcoins update times, I have created a dimensionless ratio of the amount of seconds of actual 'real time' it takes to update each hour behind of the wallet measured in (seconds)/(hour of update time behind). [kind of like a 'Q' factor to measure quality in physics]
And my weekend benchmark results are averaging out nicely  Grin Grin Grin

Connection speed 100 megabits/second.
Machine 1 : SSD (500 megabytes/s up+down, SATA 3) 4.4 gigahertz i7 4820k, windows 7 64 bit.
Machine 2 : HDD (3 gigabits, SATA 2), 2.4 gigahertz Intel Duo E4600, Windows 7 64 bit.

Machine 1,SSD: Darkcoin (0.11.1.25)   Best update ratio = 1.346 seconds per hour of update
Machine 1,SSD: Bitcoin (0.10.0) =  Best update ratio = 3.304 seconds per hour of update
Darkcoin is 2.4 times quicker than bitcoin

Machine 2,HDD : Darkcoin (0.11.1.25) = Best update ratio = 3.817 seconds per hour of update
Machine 2,HDD : Bitcoin  (0.10.0) = best update ratio = 26.14 seconds per hour of update
Darkcoin is 6.9 times quicker than bitcoin on traditional 3 gig sata hard drives of average cpu spec.

Observations:
The cpu of the HDD machine maxs out at 100% with bitcoin, indexing goes very slow especially on the first run from cold start and gives spurious update times (Darkcoin is totally stable at 40% CPU)
Darkcoin update times were statistically closer together and more stable especially on the HDD.

Conclusions:
a) Fast modern machines and solid state drives work well with the bitcoin faster hop times but older machines do not like it at all, and use too many resources bottle necking the data transfer.
b) Bitcoin blockchain length is too large for older,slower machines (still most of the world, as not everyone's 'old' machine is a 2012 iMac like Gavin Andresens!)

So does Darkcoin now hold the world coin record for update times? The excellent Dev's have nearly broken the 1 second per hour of update barrier  Cool

Ironically Mr Andresen is campaigning to have a larger blockchain!
“The old code would spend about 600ms CPU time per hop propagating blocks with already-seen transactions, this new code will spend under 10ms.”
--Gavin Andresen--


Great stuff!
https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/574666795510067200?s=09

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March 08, 2015, 08:40:35 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley
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March 08, 2015, 08:54:44 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

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March 08, 2015, 09:10:08 PM
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14. Visit a brilliant cryptographic developer

No trip to Arizona is complete without a stop to see Evan Duffield, the wonderchild of crypto. He is the creator of Darkcoin, and several innovations such as Darksend and InstantX. If you're successful getting him away from coding on the computer, have him regale you with stories of his epic battles with hapless trolls on BCT.

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Yeah, except that he is either an instamine criminal, or an incompetent developer that doesn't even know how to test code prior to releasing it.

Which one is it?
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March 08, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

One better: a picture. Absolutely amazing work!

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March 08, 2015, 09:12:34 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

Must be real elegant and efficient coding because the wallets just keep getting faster and more responsive, its great to watch all the development by the entire team. Thanks everyone Grin

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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March 08, 2015, 09:18:29 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

Thanks!!! Glad to hear you guys like it :-)

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March 08, 2015, 09:21:06 PM
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Thanks!!! Glad to hear you guys like it :-)

Understated and overawed, as it should be  Smiley

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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March 08, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
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 It is so nice and clean!! Brilliant job guys!!
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March 08, 2015, 09:33:05 PM
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Yep! Darkcoin smart and handsome!
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March 08, 2015, 09:40:19 PM
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Making Darksend even more opaque... from passive to proactive receivers...

With Masternode blinding implemented, this is probably completely unnecessary and more trouble to implement than it's worth, however, moist and luke warm from the half-baked crouton factory:

Right now, input(s) from the sender are combined if necessary and sent to one receiving address.

Would the fog not be even thicker if, as part of the process, the receiver received the total sent across several or many receiving addresses instead of just one?

Bob sends Alice 123 DRK. Masternodes query Alice's wallet for eg. 15 DRK addresses (as many as needed to accommodate 12 x 10 DRK and 3 x 1 DRK inputs, or whatever denoms the tx was made up from) and distribute the sent amount across those provided addresses.

This would probably mean more blockchain bloat, but that might be offset by the receiver not needing to redenominate the received lump to reanonymise it.

It's about time we started compressing the blockchain anyway.
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March 08, 2015, 09:42:28 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

Thanks!!! Glad to hear you guys like it :-)
Awesome work!!!
You can tell us, it's a present for The women's day???Wink

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March 08, 2015, 09:45:39 PM
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Is there any known issue for the windows 64bit client not responding for periods of time, especially clicking in the coin control or after a transaction?

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March 08, 2015, 09:47:22 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

Thanks!!! Glad to hear you guys like it :-)
Wow, this moment is finally almost here? So happy, congrats to you and crowning.

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March 08, 2015, 09:56:48 PM
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Let's say you roll out an update and enforcement is off.  The next day, god forbid, you get hit by a bus before you turn enforcement on.  What then?
We saw what bad actor pools do when enforcement is not on.  It's not variance as stonehedge alludes; it is theft.
The beauty of bitcoin is it doesn't need a single person to flip a switch for it to work properly.  At present, Darkcoin does.
That's a risk to the entire masternode system and as such, a risk to the entire Darkcoin network.  And a potentially catastrophic one at that.

There's a reference node key in the software. If I get hit by a bus, someone just needs to change the key and have everyone update. What would that take, like six hours?

So basically your coin is not even decentralized.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Wow this coin is absolute garbage, and the community is 95% cheerleaders Grin
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March 08, 2015, 09:59:18 PM
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I'm drunk again. Lets have some fun...

An instamined, criminally cool developer I think.
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March 08, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
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Let's say you roll out an update and enforcement is off.  The next day, god forbid, you get hit by a bus before you turn enforcement on.  What then?
We saw what bad actor pools do when enforcement is not on.  It's not variance as stonehedge alludes; it is theft.
The beauty of bitcoin is it doesn't need a single person to flip a switch for it to work properly.  At present, Darkcoin does.
That's a risk to the entire masternode system and as such, a risk to the entire Darkcoin network.  And a potentially catastrophic one at that.

There's a reference node key in the software. If I get hit by a bus, someone just needs to change the key and have everyone update. What would that take, like six hours?

So basically your coin is not even decentralized.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Wow this coin is absolute garbage, and the community is 95% cheerleaders Grin

was quite obvious if you think for a moment HOW he can turn enforcement on or off without a code update...

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March 08, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
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Having a developer that releases updated wallets is centralized!!!1 LOL!!
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March 08, 2015, 10:06:24 PM
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Having a developer that releases updated wallets is centralized!!!1 LOL!!

with a privkey only he knows and which does more than just displaying a message: absolutely!

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March 08, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
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Huge respect to crowning and snogcel for their latest git pull request... I think they must have borrowed Thor's hammer to beat that one into the QT client.  Smiley

It's absolutely beautiful! Great work crowning & snogcel. For anyone wondering what we're talking about: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/pull/234

Thanks!!! Glad to hear you guys like it :-)
Awesome work!!!
You can tell us, it's a present for The women's day???Wink

LOL! I hadn't actually realized that until now, sure why not!  Grin

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