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[TheDasher]

Like no one cares that SATOSHI (whom I respect) mined a shit load of coins before anyone else did,

over the course of a year or so, using a moderately large cluster of equipment, after he explained the entire concept to thousands of people on the cryptography mailing list a month or so in advance and invited them to participate (and others were certainly mining otherwise he wouldn't need that cluster, just a laptop)

That's exactly the same as mining a million coins in a few hours after an ambush launch releasing buggy code in the middle of the night with no mention of any development goals until after the instamine was over.

Well its the same if you are a DRKtard. To everyone else it is not even remotely the same.

Well at least we've got you down to one fault... Instamined which was bought by a whole bunch of us right away... Worth then $200 to $300k woppy ding! ...  Chump change... So  if back to what really people care about security...

If everyone knows about INSTAMINE scam and its no big deal why not be fair and list it as one of the qualities of this coin on the first page of the thread.  This way people know what they are getting into?

[smooth]

Now your resorting to lying!  I never made that statement... So people out there can see what you'll resort to.... Everyone can see it was another user that said that... Good work there lier!

Apologize! I saw that in your post and did not realize it was quoted from someone else (quote tag formatting was messed up). I will edit my post to remove it.

[kelsey]

Like no one cares that SATOSHI (whom I respect) mined a shit load of coins before anyone else did,

over the course of a year or so, using a moderately large cluster of equipment, after he had explained the entire concept of what he was trying to accomplish to thousands of people on the cryptography mailing list a month or so in advance and invited them to participate (and others were certainly mining otherwise he wouldn't need that cluster, just a laptop)

That's exactly the same as mining a million coins in a few hours after an ambush launch releasing buggy code in the middle of the night with no mention of any development goals until after the instamine was over.

Well its the same if you are a DRKtard. To everyone else it is not even remotely the same.

The scam that makes me money is the scam i like.

Pretty much exemplifies the rather disgusting pump-pump-pump-otherwise-shutup DRK culture. But you guys wouldn't be here messing with this scam coin otherwise, so that fits.

I do feel bad for a few people I can think of who have gotten caught up in what they feel is a legitimate project.

interesting point I myself consider every crypto from this forum todate to be instamined (in context of the broader community in which they hope to adopt it), one of the reasons nothing but the 'idea' will survive longterm.

[BlockaFett]

monero blah blah

Maybe you could build a time machine and go back to the public launch on BCT and 'instamine' DRK like everyone else? I imagine it might look something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72RqpItxd8M

[Kuriso]

2+ million Darkcoin/DASH were instamined in the first 48 hours

In fact it was 500 000 within an hour and 1.5 million in 8 hours. The "48 hours" number is apparently used a lot here as one of the ways to make it sound less outrageous.

So I'm still not happy with the new direction of this rebranding but I cant help not chime in on monero....


Is it better to have a launch that was imperfect or a coin that was launched as a scam?

Don't forget that Monero was launched with the sole purpose of being a scam.  Original devs only did it for the money.  If the community didn't take it over and find a whale to back it, the coin would be dead right now. 

-snip-
They were just in it for the money and had no real interest in Monero.
-snip-

Wasn't "roughly 5% percent of the total supply" instamined with the optimized miners?  Oh but that's ok.  They were going to be mined anyways and the devs dumped them all, or so they say.  Sounds like a great coin!

[Lebubar]

Now your resorting to lying!  I never made that statement... So people out there can see what you'll resort to.... Everyone can see it was another user that said that... Good work there lier!

Apologize! I saw that in your post and did not realize it was quoted from someone else (quote tag formatting was messed up). I will edit my post to remove it.

Lol, lol, lol.

A monero dev that didn't know how to place the quote.. Just lol.
Go away you have a lot of work..

[whocares]

Here you go

Throw something outside of your repetitive script  .
It's wide known fact that Trollero are also instamined by botnets and individuals who had a more optimized miner from the beginning (proprietary miner) .

[bigrcanada]

So  if back to what really people care about security...

So here we are there. Big genius... PUT up or Shut Up!  Break Darksend or the masternode system! We are putting up a bounty for you just to prove it.  Break it or go home!

[smooth]

Like no one cares that SATOSHI (whom I respect) mined a shit load of coins before anyone else did,

over the course of a year or so, using a moderately large cluster of equipment, after he explained the entire concept to thousands of people on the cryptography mailing list a month or so in advance and invited them to participate (and others were certainly mining otherwise he wouldn't need that cluster, just a laptop)

That's exactly the same as mining a million coins in a few hours after an ambush launch releasing buggy code in the middle of the night with no mention of any development goals until after the instamine was over.

Well its the same if you are a DRKtard. To everyone else it is not even remotely the same.

Well at least we've got you down to one fault... Instamined which was bought by a whole bunch of us right away... Worth then $200 to $300k woppy ding! ...  Chump change... So  if back to what really people care about security...

If everyone knows about INSTAMINE scam and its no big deal why not be fair and list it as one of the qualities of this coin on the first page of the thread.  This way people know what they are getting into?

And don't forget the web site and the new DASH-branded marketing materials. We wouldn't want to mislead people into thinking that DRK is a instamine/premine scam but DASH is squeaky clean would we?

[TheDasher]

So  if back to what really people care about security...

You seem to be a person of some means so I suggest that you hire, for your own benefit, credible independent experts on cryptography and distributed systems to give their opinion, because from what I've seen virtually all such people would not give a generally positive opinion.

That is, if you actually care about this sort of substantial question and not just about whether you can flip the coins for a profit.

Beyond that we will have to see whether the black hats of the world take an interest or not, when and how.

So here we... Big genius... PUT up or Shut Up!  Break Darksend or the masternode system! We are putting up a bounty for you just to prove it.  Break it or go home!

$500 bounty?  Please.  How would that be worth anyones time.

[Joshuar]

2+ million Darkcoin/DASH were instamined in the first 48 hours

In fact it was 500 000 within an hour and 1.5 million in 8 hours. The "48 hours" number is apparently used a lot here as one of the ways to make it sound less outrageous.

So I'm still not happy with the new direction of this rebranding but I cant help not chime in on monero....


Is it better to have a launch that was imperfect or a coin that was launched as a scam?

Don't forget that Monero was launched with the sole purpose of being a scam.  Original devs only did it for the money.  If the community didn't take it over and find a whale to back it, the coin would be dead right now.  

-snip-
They were just in it for the money and had no real interest in Monero.
-snip-

Wasn't "roughly 5% percent of the total supply" instamined with the optimized miners?  Oh but that's ok.  They were going to be mined anyways and the devs dumped them all, or so they say.  Sounds like a great coin!

Well, a better question would be, is it better to have a coin that's had it's "parameters" changed several times to hugely benefit early instaminers? Or a coin that's had those who had the knowledge create good miners for themselves and mine the coins themselves while selling them immediately(Just as early GPU's did for bitcoin).

[bigrcanada]

Like no one cares that SATOSHI (whom I respect) mined a shit load of coins before anyone else did,

over the course of a year or so, using a moderately large cluster of equipment, after he explained the entire concept to thousands of people on the cryptography mailing list a month or so in advance and invited them to participate (and others were certainly mining otherwise he wouldn't need that cluster, just a laptop)

That's exactly the same as mining a million coins in a few hours after an ambush launch releasing buggy code in the middle of the night with no mention of any development goals until after the instamine was over.

Well its the same if you are a DRKtard. To everyone else it is not even remotely the same.

$200 to $300k is chump change..we are taking about a currency butt hurt that's my bank managers yearly bonus.    Never mind a global  currency...

So again  for those in the stands... Break it or  shut it.

[smooth]

Here you go

Throw something outside of your repetitive script  .
It's wide known fact that Trollero are also instamined by botnets and individuals who had a more optimized miner from the beginning (proprietary miner) .

1. It was never instamined. The difficulty adjustment worked properly. (You can look in the blockchain for this)

There are no instantmines or premines in Monero. The smooth block subsidy scheme could be a little bit more tapered towards a slower distribution than it is, but ultimately this coin passes the smell test.

2. A relatively tiny amount of coins (maybe 5% at most, probably less) was mined for a fair amount of profit using optimized miners over several months but also at a relatively high cost to the miners (I'm told > 100K USD) by people who verifiably have nothing to do with the Monero core team.

Be careful though. You are slipping into "attack the attacker" mode. Rationally speaking there is no particular relevance between optimized miners for Monero and the first day of DRK when 1.5 million coins were mined.

[bigrcanada]

So  if back to what really people care about security...

You seem to be a person of some means so I suggest that you hire, for your own benefit, credible independent experts on cryptography and distributed systems to give their opinion, because from what I've seen virtually all such people would not give a generally positive opinion.

That is, if you actually care about this sort of substantial question and not just about whether you can flip the coins for a profit.

Beyond that we will have to see whether the black hats of the world take an interest or not, when and how.

So here we... Big genius... PUT up or Shut Up!  Break Darksend or the masternode system! We are putting up a bounty for you just to prove it.  Break it or go home!

$500 bounty?  Please.  How would that be worth anyones time.

$5000.00 bounty is what is being proposed... Another lier... Check that back posts... But hey... From a bunch of guys that think the $200 to $300k  instamined was a big deal... $5000.00 should be a big deal.   lol

[smooth]

(Just as early GPU's did for bitcoin).

And DRK and probably 100% of every other coin that had a new PoW.

[TheDasher]

Like no one cares that SATOSHI (whom I respect) mined a shit load of coins before anyone else did,

over the course of a year or so, using a moderately large cluster of equipment, after he explained the entire concept to thousands of people on the cryptography mailing list a month or so in advance and invited them to participate (and others were certainly mining otherwise he wouldn't need that cluster, just a laptop)

That's exactly the same as mining a million coins in a few hours after an ambush launch releasing buggy code in the middle of the night with no mention of any development goals until after the instamine was over.

Well its the same if you are a DRKtard. To everyone else it is not even remotely the same.

Well at least we've got you down to one fault... Instamined which was bought by a whole bunch of us right away... Worth then $200 to $300k woppy ding! ...  Chump change... So  if back to what really people care about security...

If everyone knows about INSTAMINE scam and its no big deal why not be fair and list it as one of the qualities of this coin on the first page of the thread.  This way people know what they are getting into?

And don't forget the web site and the new DASH-branded marketing materials. We wouldn't want to mislead people into thinking that DRK is a instamine/premine scam but DASH is squeaky clean would we?

They cant because they would need free hands to do that and they are too caught up in the excitement of the PREMINE CIRCLEJERK.

[smooth]

Don't forget that Monero was launched with the sole purpose of being a scam.  Original devs only did it for the money.  If the community didn't take it over and find a whale to back it, the coin would be dead right now. 

You are absolutely right. The difference between this coin and that coin is that here, no one took over.

I'm still trying to figure out the relevance of Monero at all other than the "attack the attacker" strategy.

[TheDasher]

So  if back to what really people care about security...

You seem to be a person of some means so I suggest that you hire, for your own benefit, credible independent experts on cryptography and distributed systems to give their opinion, because from what I've seen virtually all such people would not give a generally positive opinion.

That is, if you actually care about this sort of substantial question and not just about whether you can flip the coins for a profit.

Beyond that we will have to see whether the black hats of the world take an interest or not, when and how.

So here we... Big genius... PUT up or Shut Up!  Break Darksend or the masternode system! We are putting up a bounty for you just to prove it.  Break it or go home!

$500 bounty?  Please.  How would that be worth anyones time.

$5000.00 bounty is what is being proposed... Another lier... Check that back posts... But hey... From a bunch of guys that think the $200 to $300k  instamined was a big deal... $5000.00 should be a big deal.   lol

Liar?  I saw 500 pledged.  Show me the post where more is actually pledged.

More flatulent propaganda from the DASH CIRCLEJERK CLUB.

[tungfa]

do NOT quote the trolls !!!
you can hit em on the head for their stupidity
no problem !
 

[shojayxt]

I would like to thank Darkcoin and the people behind it for funding my extended vacation.  I am looking forward to enjoying the upcoming summer and the trips I will be taking funded by profits from trading Darkcoin.  At this point I do not care about the launch, distribution, or future of Darkcoin.  All I care about is the profit I have recently made.

What people need to understand about crypto is that none of these coins are ever going to see any kind of widespread adoption as a form of payment.  They are all just speculative ponzi investments.  One thing I know is that whenever you have people with the financial means and a determination to make a profit they likely will.  That's why I bought back into Darkcoin back in early February.  I knew a pump was coming and all I needed to do was sit back and wait for a little while and I would double my money.  I did just that.  I doubled my money.  My only regret is not risking more but I like to stay diversified so I never put all my eggs in one basket.  It's a strategy that has proven to be successful for me and one that I will never change.

I plan on using some of the profit that I have recently made off Darkcoin to make several trips this summer.  If anyone wants to meet up for a drink I'll be in Manhattan, Orlando, Ft Lauderdale, Chicago, New Orleans, and Los Angeles for sure.  My plans might change slightly because I might just drive across America.   It's something I've always wanted to do.  But I'll be in those cites at some point for sure.   PM me if you want to meet for a drink.  I might be driving through you're town.