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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722683 times)
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August 07, 2022, 09:47:52 AM

There was a really interesting twitter space this weekend detailing the upcoming integration of Dash onto the Thorchain DEX.  You can play it back here: https://twitter.com/thorchain/status/1554857187880718338

Thorswap works quite well. Fees can be a bit much at times but all-in-all, its an excellent product, highly recommended.

Once the integration is complete I'll probably acquire some.

Still never got over getting my laptop stolen in 2015.

Can look up my old address and see 62 DASH in there, just mocking me (among other coins).

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August 08, 2022, 04:53:24 PM

Is everything okay? Is the coin still alive?
She is alive and dead. She is worth nothing. I have yet to see a weaker coin in the last altcoins season than DASH. Thousands of coins gave hundreds, thousands of percent, and DASH did not even grow to 500 dollars

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August 09, 2022, 02:48:20 PM


Thousands of coins gave hundreds, thousands of percent, and DASH did not even grow to 500 dollars

Thousands of coins do not giveaway half their supply to existing holders without asking for anything in return. How do you expect an outside investor to see that as a viable basis for parking their capital ?

All Dash had to do was tighten up its protocol allocation to such non-performing drains and the capital losses (which, ironically, were disproportionately suffered by masternodes) could have been avoided.
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August 09, 2022, 03:11:03 PM

Thousands of coins do not giveaway half their supply to existing holders without asking for anything in return. How do you expect an outside investor to see that as a viable basis for parking their capital ?

All Dash had to do was tighten up its protocol allocation to such non-performing drains and the capital losses (which, ironically, were disproportionately suffered by masternodes) could have been avoided.

Remarkable that years have passed yet you keep repeating the same message without ever grasping that the dynamic you describe has already been baked into valuation for quite some time.

Instead of worrying about Dash as an investment vehicle you should simply consider using it for its primary intention - a currency - or else just stop worrying about it.

If you can't, perhaps consider appealing to those who can actually do something about the "problem" rather than restating it here for what is likely to be the hundredth time.

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August 10, 2022, 02:16:37 PM
Last edit: August 10, 2022, 02:27:39 PM by toknormal


Instead of worrying about Dash as an investment vehicle you should simply consider using it for its primary intention - a currency - or else just stop worrying about it.

Why do you make a distinction between the two ?

One can't function with out the other. Dash isn't a stable coin therefore it HAS to perform as an investment vehicle otherwise it can't hold its value in which case its role as a currency is torpedoed as well.

If you can't, perhaps consider appealing to those who can actually do something about the "problem" rather than restating it here for what is likely to be the hundredth time.

The masternode "community" is who "can actually do something about the problem" and they're going to keep hearing about it - both from me and the free market - until they do.
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The masternode "community" is who "can actually do something about the problem" and they're going to keep hearing about it - both from me and the free market - until they do.


Nonsense, there is no problem, the coin is doing fine.  Dash bounced strongly right when you and others like you got the most bearish, keep getting it wrong, meanwhile ETH is ditching POW altogether and pumping like mad. It doesn't matter at all how the coins are emitted so long as it is predictable and at reasonable pace.
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August 11, 2022, 11:03:08 AM
Last edit: August 12, 2022, 12:45:28 PM by toknormal

It doesn't matter at all how the coins are emitted so long as it is predictable and at reasonable pace.

I'm afraid it does matter because the protocol controls scarcity (defined by the amount of financial effort required to extract the next coin from the chain) and the secondary market (exchanged based trading) puts a value on that.

Let me remind you that we are now where I predicted we'd be, not where Ryan Taylor predicted we'd be based on the protocol adjustments he recommended to the masternode community 2 years ago.

 • "circulating supply" (a dodgy definition at best since MN collateral circulates but lets give him the benefit of the doubt) has gone up, not down. We've lost nearly 1000 nodes since ATH

 • price has gone down not up $100 then $55 now. (So MNs capital loss on their collateral has blown their rewards to Kingdom Come over that period)
 
 • chain usage (monetary velocity) has been static (around 20k transactions per day if we're lucky)

 • marketcap has gone down, not up (nearly $1 Billion in Oct 2020, $0.6 billion now. Meanwhile Litecoin only lost around 10% mk)

 • ranking, and of particular interest, ranking against fully-mined POW coins has tanked (23 then, 75 now)

Re. that last point. Since the protocol change we haven't gained on one single fully mined POW coin in the last 2 years. Let that sink in in the context of the "we don't need all this hashrate" mantra. It appears we did need it.

A somewhat dismal performance against expectations - and exactly as I predicted. "Mining" is simply metaphor. What it really is is a trustless market and if you feed too much supply into that market at zero price you will corrode everything from store of value performance to usage.

A masternode is simply a zero-difficulty miner in economic terms since its reward comes directly from the blockchain. Masternodes dump their supply on secondary markets just as miners do except they never had to "buy" it as miners do. It's massive selling without any balancing acquisition cost.

That's core the reason for the chronic under-performance compared to fully mined equivalents (FME's).

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Before people start with the "but everyone's switching to Proof of stake" mantra:
Proof of stake is a service based economy. The investment aspect of it works by having a stake in a growing service offering platform. So it's like a trustless version of classic business shares. It's also like that in the sense that when some other "service" comes along thats more efficient, your shares can be obsolesced if you don't sell them and jump to the "next big thing".

So there are basically 3 types of investible electronic asset classes:

 • commodity money (limited supply tokens that are as expensive to mine as they are to buy)
 • stable coins (unlimited supply tokens that have and external peg such as the $USD)
 • service platforms

Etherum et al is a service platform. Dash is commodity money. Do not ever conflate the two or we will fall into the biggest crevace ever prepared for crypto scams. Ethereum and its clones can get away with converting to POS, we cannot we were never in the "services" business in the first place.

Dash's "service layer" is there to enhance its role as commodity money and allow it to function as a currency along the lines of making coinage out of metal nuggets. There is no "service" offered other than making bitcoin more fungible, exchangeable and useable for the payment of goods. We have lost sight of that identity and that has caused a crisis of competitively.
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Let's bring Evan Duffield back into the project. He's the only one who can bring a corpse back to life.
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August 17, 2022, 06:12:38 AM

Dash Core v18.0 Release Announcement

Dash Core v18.0.0 is a major release and is a mandatory upgrade for all masternodes, miners, and users. Version 18.0.0, released on August 15, 2022, introduces a number of improvements to Dash, including performance optimizations, wallet user interface enhancements, greater stability, and numerous enhancements through Bitcoin backports. Comprehensive details can be found in the release notes https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/v18.x/doc/release-notes.md
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August 17, 2022, 03:49:05 PM

Dash Core v18.0 Release Announcement

Dash Core v18.0.0 is a major release and is a mandatory upgrade for all masternodes, miners, and users. Version 18.0.0, released on August 15, 2022, introduces a number of improvements to Dash, including performance optimizations, wallet user interface enhancements, greater stability, and numerous enhancements through Bitcoin backports. Comprehensive details can be found in the release notes https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/v18.x/doc/release-notes.md

thanks for the info!    Is this the last major release before Evolution?   
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August 18, 2022, 03:39:28 AM

Dash Core v18.0 Release Announcement

Dash Core v18.0.0 is a major release and is a mandatory upgrade for all masternodes, miners, and users. Version 18.0.0, released on August 15, 2022, introduces a number of improvements to Dash, including performance optimizations, wallet user interface enhancements, greater stability, and numerous enhancements through Bitcoin backports. Comprehensive details can be found in the release notes https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/v18.x/doc/release-notes.md

Finally, It took a lot of time since the last Mainnet release, but if we check the reasons why it’s allis clear.
And after the majority of the network is upgraded to a newer version we can make 1 Dash proposal Cool

DASH gives us a free and autonomous monetary alternative with no intermediaries.
Dash works and is secure. That’s what is important.

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August 18, 2022, 06:23:30 PM

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August 21, 2022, 04:11:37 PM

For the record, Dash is a direct fork of bitcoin core and not litecoin as stated by a 'Dev'

Dash is a fork of litecoin according to github. Bitcoin code may have been merged/replaced later but let's not rewrite history, despite some history being inconvenient.



That's not even the right repo they forked. The real litecoin is github.com/litecoin things just move and change names alot.

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August 21, 2022, 10:09:49 PM
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MN count now descending smoothly below 4000. "Circulating supply" therefore increasing - as predicted due to massively over-allocated MN rewards that get dumped on markets without any counter-balancing primary market purchase (as is required for mining rewards).

The effect of this is to devalue the MN collateral faster than the rewards can compensate for, rendering a Dash Masternode as a liability rather than an asset. The market has now learned this and is dumping MN in addition to granular Dash.

How to fix this ?

Urgently adjust the protocol in the other direction (the one that should have been taken 2 years ago) and allow markets to bid for the reward directly from the chain rather than issue it at zero price to be dumped straight onto exchanges. This will allow MNs to benefit from capital gain from their collateral as well as a healthy dollar-value income rather than having that income wiped out through capital loss on their collateral.

2 years ago we pushed the protocol beyond the point of diminishing returns for MNs. This must be reversed to restore the network to a state of financial health.
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August 21, 2022, 10:40:49 PM

Dash unveils new ways to buy Dash in the Android Dash Wallet, thanks to a streamlined integration with Coinbase products.

Linking your Coinbase account to your Dash wallet allows you quick and easy ways to acquire Dash, swap Dash, store Dash, and spend your Dash!

https://www.dash.org/news/dash-coinbase/

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MN count now descending smoothly below 4000. "Circulating supply" therefore increasing - as predicted due to massively over-allocated MN rewards that get dumped on markets without any counter-balancing primary market purchase (as is required for mining rewards).

The effect of this is to devalue the MN collateral faster than the rewards can compensate for, rendering a Dash Masternode as a liability rather than an asset. The market has now learned this and is dumping MN in addition to granular Dash.

How to fix this ?

Urgently adjust the protocol in the other direction (the one that should have been taken 2 years ago) and allow markets to bid for the reward directly from the chain rather than issue it at zero price to be dumped straight onto exchanges. This will allow MNs to benefit from capital gain from their collateral as well as a healthy dollar-value income rather than having that income wiped out through capital loss on their collateral.

2 years ago we pushed the protocol beyond the point of diminishing returns for MNs. This must be reversed to restore the network to a state of financial health.

Pure FUD!!  You know better than this and you should be ashamed of yourself!  The network is currently going through an upgrade process and at times like these some masternodes are shutdown for routine service and maintainence, they will be brought back up later and continue to service the network.  Here is a chart of the collateralised masternodes versus the active masternodes, notice that no masternode was decollaterised, sold or otherwise in the past week, while the green line shows active nodes decreasing during this upgrade phase.



Stop with your FUD!  By lying about this you discredit your other arguments and I just have to assume everything you say is lies.


https://mnowatch.org/dash-stats/
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By lying about this you discredit your other arguments

Lets see what level we recover to then.

Ostensibly it should be 5000 nodes+ and a 200% revaluation if there's to be even a neutral effect of the protocol change.
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August 27, 2022, 02:32:09 PM

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September 02, 2022, 02:31:13 AM

The Dash network will fork in about 10 days from now, we've hit a couple key milestones, firstly, we have more than 90% of miners signalling readiness for the DIP24 miner activated hard fork!  Secondly, the SPORK 23 has been activated on mainnet which starts banning nodes that have not yet upgraded, thus we are all systems go to upgrade.

Recently, the developers did a deep dive into what new features are in v18.  You can watch the video here https://youtu.be/qXeT5mV5MJs
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