[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[qwizzie]

Dash price starting to move, looks like low liquidity at Binance : https://cryptowat.ch/charts/BINANCE:DASH-BTC?period=5m
Or a glitch in the matrix, or a look into Dash nearby future.

[Nthelight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsz_4Bn5WA

[qwizzie]

Today is a good day for Altcoins, and for Dash  
Turns out it was a look into the future after all.

Edit : ouch, Bitcoin price dropped about $6000.
Its recovering now, but that was a large drop.

[Dahaa]

Today is a good day for Altcoins, and for Dash   
Turns out it was a look into the future after all.

What are you talking about? LTC is almost 2 dash ETH 11 dash. Is your head all right, or have other people's money overshadowed your brain !?

[l8orre]

mentioning this for completeness sake here:

https://blog.komodoplatform.com/en/dash-zec-remain-listed/

[Alexey45]

How do you live in coffin stability?
Devaluable and unnecessary DASH masternode, against ETH which brought everyone 10 times the profit)
DASH Marketers and Traders, Start Doing Something!
Otherwise, you will be thrown out of the hundred on coinmarketcap.
And then angry investors will shoot you in the knees

[birdonthewire]

How do you live in coffin stability?
Devaluable and unnecessary DASH masternode, against ETH which brought everyone 10 times the profit)
DASH Marketers and Traders, Start Doing Something!
Otherwise, you will be thrown out of the hundred on coinmarketcap.
And then angry investors will shoot you in the knees

With proportional returns and , ovbiously, rigths,  for ALL supporters, logical and normal view in a real decentralized collective project ... a currency in a position to operate TODAY a global payments network would have millions of commercial agents around all the world. They now reduce the model to that anyone convinced of the possibilities willing to get involved in DASH has to beg 4 fucking coins from greedy cheats who don't even know what hole they're shitting through...as they go around the world, of course, "educating" people. After having laughed, trolled and despised each of the remaining projects and today pissing these corrupt thieves in the face ... now they have "Education" for the people. In addition to being retarded, arrogant.

Only being a real moron like the guys in this band can ignore it. Better 6% of shit than 3% of a real Treasure , backed and projected. Little more to say to that ... they already show themselves.

[Inagame]

Some exchanges started delisting xrp and privacy coins including Dash, and I understand they are scared from regulations but I don't understand why they included Dash in this list.

[qwizzie]

Some exchanges started delisting xrp and privacy coins including Dash, and I understand they are scared from regulations but I don't understand why they included Dash in this list.

Please see : https://twitter.com/RTaylor05/status/1345158205685436416
US government agencies mislabeled Dash as an Anonymity Enhanced cryptocurrency (AEC). Some exchanges seem to base their delisting action on that labeling.

Dash is a fork of Bitcoin, has just like Bitcoin an open blockchain where transactions, senders and receivers can be publicly viewed and analyzed.
Both Bitcoin and Dash use a form of CoinJoin to optionally provide users with privacy on their transactions.
From a regulator stance or from a legal stance there is no difference between Dash and Bitcoin. Yet Dash is labeled an AEC, and Bitcoin is not. That is unjustified.

Link : https://media.dash.org/wp-content/uploads/Dash-PrivateSend-Legal-Position-EN.pdf

Other possible reasons : Dash is still regarded by many in the crypto scene as a privacy-centric coin. Dash used to be a privacy-centric coin in 2014/2015
when Dash introduced (as first altcoin) its optional privacy feature, but has since then focused on payments by making them instant, secure, protected against double spending
and instantly spendable by receivers.

These days Dash is focusing more on functioning as a decentralized platform where developers can create Dapps and store their Dapps data directly on the masternodes network (kinda like cloud storage) and making transactions far more user-friendly by introducing blockchain identities, blockchain usernames, paying to blockchain usernames, introducing a decentralized API.

Dash announces new update, social payment wallet enters testnet
https://cointelegraph.com/news/dash-announces-new-update-social-payment-wallet-enters-testnet

Dash Launches Public Alpha for Social Payments Wallet
https://bitcoinist.com/dash-launches-public-alpha-for-social-payments-wallet/

Dash Platform and the DashPay Dapp are currently live on Dash Testnet and are scheduled for release on Dash Mainnet in Q1, 2021
DashPay Dapp demo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtTaezpxQOs & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw2CrHyQMVI

Some exchanges / services when deciding to delist privacy coins, may have included Dash because of a wrong perception of Dash (that Dash is still a privacy-centric coin or that Dash has a
private / closed-off blockchain).

Hopefully Ryan Taylor (CEO of Dash Core Group) can get in touch with the US government officials (the DOJ and FinCEN are mentioned), to have at least the mislabeling corrected.
Difficult though, with the transition of political power in the US and COVID-19 also rampaging in the US (and in the whole world).

Educating exchanges what Dash is and what Dash is not, is still an important task for Dash Core Group. Now more then ever.

[cryptoperkele]

Dash is a fork of Bitcoin, has just like Bitcoin an open blockchain where transactions, senders and receivers can be publicly viewed and analyzed.
Both Bitcoin and Dash use a form of CoinJoin to optionally provide users with privacy on their transactions.
From a regulator stance or from a legal stance there is no difference between Dash and Bitcoin. Yet Dash is labeled an AEC, and Bitcoin is not. That is unjustified.

Link : https://media.dash.org/wp-content/uploads/Dash-PrivateSend-Legal-Position-EN.pdf

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How will you see this ending? Is this just a misunderstanding from exchange's side or will they keep ruling Dash as a privacy coin among with XMR and ZEC? I am pretty sure that bittrex just want to avoid any legal battles and are unlisting anything in the gray area in order to avoid any legal disputes.

[qwizzie]

Dash is a fork of Bitcoin, has just like Bitcoin an open blockchain where transactions, senders and receivers can be publicly viewed and analyzed.
Both Bitcoin and Dash use a form of CoinJoin to optionally provide users with privacy on their transactions.
From a regulator stance or from a legal stance there is no difference between Dash and Bitcoin. Yet Dash is labeled an AEC, and Bitcoin is not. That is unjustified.

Link : https://media.dash.org/wp-content/uploads/Dash-PrivateSend-Legal-Position-EN.pdf

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How will you see this ending? Is this just a misunderstanding from exchange's side or will they keep ruling Dash as a privacy coin among with XMR and ZEC? I am pretty sure that bittres just want to avoid any legal battles and are unlisting anything in the gray area in order to avoid any legal disputes.

I think the large internationally-operating exchanges have adequate compliance departments and are well aware of Dash optional CoinJoin form of privacy not forming a problem, regulation wise or legal wise.

It is the smaller exchanges in certain regions of the world (US, South Korea, Japan), that have or could continue to delist Dash to avoid having to communicate with regulators about their compliance setup or because of uncertainty about regulation or because of pressure from regulators, who perhaps have a wrong perception of Dash.

Delisting is one of the easiest responses for small, compliant cryptocurrency exchanges,” said Justin Ehrenhofer, a Monero contributor. “They may not have the resources to properly communicate their risk mitigation strategies to regulators and banks.

In most cases, banks, exchanges and other entities find it simpler to completely write off products related to specific coins rather than expend resources creating detailed compliance programs, according to Ehrenhofer.

Source : https://www.coindesk.com/privacy-coin-advocates-crypto-exchange-delistings

Maybe if Dash Core Group suceed with getting in contact with US governement agencies and get them to remove Dash from their Anonymity Enhanced Cryptocurrencies list, those smaller exchanges in the US feel less inclined to delist Dash.


Source : https://twitter.com/RTaylor05/status/1345158205685436416

Dash optional form of privacy does not seem to form a problem in the European Union, this seems far more specific to US regulation causing smaller exchanges to delist Dash together with specific privacy-centric cryptocurrencies like Monero and Zcash.  


Source : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/legal-opinion-and-regulatory-classification-for-germany-and-european-union-step-1.50201/#post-223131

Dash Core Group did manage to get some of those smaller exchanges that intended to delist Dash, to reconsider their decision and ultimately let Dash stay listed.

https://dashnews.org/okex-korea-pauses-previously-announced-dash-delisting-pending-reasearch/
Dash is still traded there : https://okex.co.kr/kr/view/exchange/full?coin=DASH&market=BTC

https://cointelegraph.com/news/australian-exchanges-delist-privacy-coins-amid-chainalysis-integration
Dash is still traded there : https://www.coinspot.com.au/buystop/dash

https://cryptonews.com.au/australian-crypto-exchanges-forced-to-delist-privacy-coins-or-be-debanked
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/ikg8m9/banking_partners_happy_for_dash_and_other/
Dash is still traded there : https://swyftx.com.au/buy/dash-dash/

But it seems a bit like one step forward, two steps backward lately with both ShapeShift and Bittrex delisting Dash.
Ironically Ledger (the producer of hardware wallets, located in France) introduced a feature not so long ago, that let users swap coins (including Dash) from inside their hardware wallet.
Source : https://www.ledger.com/swap

Kindly note that the Swap feature is not available for each country due to local regulations.

[piliyouxia]

Dash core，What are you doing

no dissemination

A successful leader is a person who knows what they do well and does it, but they also know what their people know well and help them practice it.

If you do wrong, you can regret, repent, and make amends.

If you blame another person, a system, or an event for something you did wrong, others will not trust you.

Now the banker meet unexpectedly of wall street when often ask a question, it is you go to China, if you had not gone to China so the company that you are not an internationalization.

Two Chinese volunteers，They masqueraded as DashcoreTeam and fooled everyone.
They swindled more than one hundred thousand dollars out of china dashcommunity.

They screwed things up big time in china.
Two Chinese volunteers,Acting like a clown or buffoon.

[Pang.]

The punishment that we have carried out in recent months is disproportionate if we compare it with other pre-mined coins or that have not had any development and have continued to increase their capitalization.

Regarding the bittrex event, we can see that the nodes have started to recover briefly, from a low of 4768 to the current number of 4793.

25 nodes recovered in a few hours.

Reviewing the portfolios of the large holders there has hardly been any movement, and I conclude that the 20% falls that we have seen in the Dash flash crash have been mainly motivated by speculative selling on exchanges that have taken advantage of short positions or buybacks below.

I still have doubts, not because of Dash or its development, but because of BTC and ETH, the verticality of the rise is not organic, and it could certainly go to $ 40,000 or something more, but let's think that a long crypto winter of years that as in past cycles would leave BTC over $ 10,000, where would Dash be if there is no decoupling from BTC?

There I see the risk right now.

a greeting

[toknormal]

There I see the risk right now.

The risk I see is of continuing down the futile path of trying to be "less like bitcoin" and overvaluing the economic role of the masternode when we in fact inherited BTC's protocol and store-of-value model. Now we have declining transaction count to add to dwindling marketcap and competitiveness as we appear to be slowly heading out of the top 40.

[thunderjet]

The punishment that we have carried out in recent months is disproportionate if we compare it with other pre-mined coins or that have not had any development and have continued to increase their capitalization.

Regarding the bittrex event, we can see that the nodes have started to recover briefly, from a low of 4768 to the current number of 4793.

25 nodes recovered in a few hours.

Reviewing the portfolios of the large holders there has hardly been any movement, and I conclude that the 20% falls that we have seen in the Dash flash crash have been mainly motivated by speculative selling on exchanges that have taken advantage of short positions or buybacks below.

I still have doubts, not because of Dash or its development, but because of BTC and ETH, the verticality of the rise is not organic, and it could certainly go to $ 40,000 or something more, but let's think that a long crypto winter of years that as in past cycles would leave BTC over $ 10,000, where would Dash be if there is no decoupling from BTC?

There I see the risk right now.

a greeting

Main task for selling any product is to create demand.Scarcity does not come from supply but from demand. BTC and ETH succeeded in that.Investors are pouring billions in them and if they do not buy via OTC market,price will be much higher than it is now.So,theirs growth is organic,created through demand which greatly surpasses supply.

DASH went in another direction,wrongly believed that scarcity comes from supply.To make it even more "scarce",they gave masternodes huge reward to keep coins off market.We saw that this measure did not give any results.It does not matter if you product only few coins.If you do not have buyers for them they are worthless.

That misunderstanding of basics economics led DASH to its position now. Without making changes ,it will stay in that position indefinitely.

I didnt hear any meaningfull idea from DASH team about plans to create demand and attract investors.Instead,they want to give even bigger rewards to masternodes,desperately staying on the same wrong path of artificially creating scarcity not demand.

[Pang.]

It is not bad to have 4,793,000 Dash sued to create master nodes.

Can BTC say this?

What attracts BTC holders to hold them?

I guess to think that it will always go up, right?

Will BTC go up forever?

It seems perfect to speak of digital gold, of certainty, of scarcity, of demand.

Why do we demand BTC?

And don't tell me that to make international payments, or to pay for coffee, because although it can be used for that, there are better methods than BTC.

I see a lot of inconsistencies in the market right now. I can appreciate what you say that institutions buying BTC, however, I do not know how long this will be sustainable without offering anything else.

Maybe tomorrow something better than BTC will appear and this blockchain will be outdated. So for me, BTC is not digital gold, it is something different, I do not know how it will end, I hope well, but I see too much uncertainty to say that it will be a very long-term project.

As for Dash, I can find a thousand excuses to talk about his low price. As there were also a thousand excuses to say that it was cheap at $ 1500.


Fashions come and go, we are staying along the way.

[birdonthewire]

Why do we demand BTC?

Because it is a standard of savings. Fools, when BTC refocused on it disregarding challenges as a means of payment, they foolishly despised it for its expensive and slow transactions. Of the arrogant disqualifications on the part of any visible head of this project, better not to remember.

And it turns out that if you save in BTC, you win. How curious !

If you put money in DASH ... they rob you 300 ready. Because Mnodes don't eat monetary issues: They devour EVERYTHING in DASH. They have created a currency with no ability to retain wealth ... and their greed tends to steal whatever they find within the project. As what is created does not come for anything, but to impoverish them and impoverish everyone else ... they will steal even the taps in the washrooms.

Fashions come and go, we are staying along the way.

Fashions? Do you define yourself as a critic? It would be laughable if it weren't all so sad precisely for destroying one of the best approaches on the market.

It is not a fashionable minority that is opposed to DASH. Any shit takes a x5 from lows ... the trend is bullish and the market is at all-time capitalization highs. That people do not want to put money directly into the pockets of 4 scammers is another matter. Pure logic, not a fad. The most prosperous market in the world right now, no less. But nobody gets out of bed in the morning thinking of giving their money to 300 bastards ... and they enter any other project, where their contribution is rewarded with proportional benefits, which in crypto is the generalized idea, not a fad . Is it really strange to you?
They tell the REAL community that they will only be users of the project, without rewards or rights, so that a private group can get rich, they fuck that entire REAL community ... and now they complain because there is no market ... and whining like children pampered by the fact that BTC does have it to "coincidences" and "fads".

Anyway, nothing new ... the arrogant, narcissistic and stupid analytical dynamics of DASH. So it is.

[qwizzie]

Seems like there is some mega news coming to Dash this week, i wonder what it is.
Sucks to be not an insider, luckily i was scoping up cheap coins anyways  

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/kq03oe/dash_bottom_in_hurry/

There is also some mega news coming for DASH this week which is causing insiders to scoop up cheap coins.

Lets do some brainstorming on what it could be. Who will go first ? (Angry Birds excluded)

Update : whatever it is, looks like it got delayed to end of this month

[birdonthewire]

Seems like there is some mega news coming to Dash this week, i wonder what it is.
Sucks to be not an insider, luckily i was scoping up cheap coins anyways  

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/kq03oe/dash_bottom_in_hurry/

There is also some mega news coming for DASH this week which is causing insiders to scoop up cheap coins.

You're a fucking scammer trying to dupe more victims with more smoke and mirrors

Even if DASH receives wealth, it will be drained ... it is like a raft with 300 holes in the middle of the lake. Neither rowing nor with three racing engines will you reach the shore, because the system is unsustainable. It is an inexpensive perpetual drainage structure for the private benefit of an elite as immoral as it is idiotic. With monstrous capital inflows, theft is concealed for a bit of time, very little ... without them ... the air escapes under pressure like a hurricane and the scam is evident ... in the eyes of all but the your (or that is what you are trying to transmit). Without enriching before a global community ... NOBODY will enrich you. Nothing beyond a couple of speculative pumps proportional to the price of your shitty hijacked coin that ejects value at lightning speed.

How retarded it is necessary to be to try such an approach speaks perfectly of what you are ... and where your arrogant smiles were, believing that you had manipulated everyone , boasting of controlling the project and marginalizing some micro-holders that will never put a dollar in your pockets again.. Do not try to pretend to be "stupid and clueless": Your scam does not work...now, keep fucking yourselves. It is little penalty for the thieves disaster you created.

[qwizzie]

I may as well go first : maybe an important new (hopefully institutional) partner to the Dash FastPass Project ?
Link to Dash FastPass : https://www.dash.org/fastpass/



That would be nice.