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May 27, 2014, 07:04:22 PM |
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Alex, it is very likely a bug with the network hashrate reports or a bug somwehere in general. I just don't buy x11 ASICs out of the blue, it takes a sustantially long development lifecycle to come up with these, and that to by NSA to break into a crap coin. The absence from every other x11 coin pretty much is a convincing proof of the lack of x11 ASICs.
The elite are obsessed with controlling and tracking money flows. Obfuscation of money flows is a threat to them, whether it comes from DRK, BCN, XC - whatever coin. Even if they control the choke points (because in 2014 cryptos are still considered worthless without converting them to fiat) they know that a day will come when this won't be necessary (kind' a like the matrix/neo/morpheus pic which says that he won't have to trade bitcoins). They are pro-active in the field because the dollar is the global lever that makes things happen. You don't spare a few million $$$ and let threats like crypto to fuck up the tens of trillions of dollars market. These guys are ruthless. They are manipulating markets like gold, which has a marketcap of >7 trillion USD and they have shown their aggressiveness in stuff like alternative currencies based on gold or silver through raids and confiscation. Things don't simply operate on chance.
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May 27, 2014, 07:05:22 PM |
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camosoul
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May 27, 2014, 07:05:56 PM |
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just got back from a long day driving, training the untrainable, and otherwise being nice to people. so its nice to get back to some f*ing awesome news. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hmm, ignored me yet? :-p
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May 27, 2014, 07:08:58 PM |
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just got back from a long day driving, training the untrainable, and otherwise being nice to people. so its nice to get back to some f*ing awesome news. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hmm, ignored me yet? :-p no. I'm you're nr.1 fan.
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May 27, 2014, 07:09:54 PM |
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If there were X11 ASICs, they would be pushing giant TH/s, not MH/s.
They kind'a reached 1 TH/s. That's the thing.
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May 27, 2014, 07:11:32 PM |
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Devil's Advocate: doesn't it sound a but pumpish to say you've wanted to raise MN payments to 20% for a while, when it's never, ever been mentioned. It's crossed my mind that it should be done, but I've never said it out loud... Never saw you say so, either... This'll be new troll focus, so why not address it now? I think I blurted it out a few hundred pages back.
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kaene
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May 27, 2014, 07:12:08 PM |
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So... how many masternodes are there currently, can we expect that number to at least double now, and what is the price likely to be once the required numbers of 1000DRK are bought and taken out of the market? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) You could say that 1M DRKs are held as long term investment, and we will probably see 1000-1500 MNs, so half of the coins are out of the market ... scarce enough?
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May 27, 2014, 07:13:39 PM |
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I have mixed views on Max. But today, I'm his Nr2 fan.
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AizenSou
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May 27, 2014, 07:14:04 PM |
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Man the #1 wallet just won't quit (he was #2 there for a while at 314159.xxx DRK) now he added enough to make it 333 333 DRK and reclaim the top spot. http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/#!rich Hopefully weak hands learn how to make money by example. This whale spent over 5k BTC+ in DRK. What you have to ask yourself now is, did he initially earn those 5k BTC+ by dumping when everyone panic sell or by buying when everyone else panic sell? He added 19k DRK to his wallet today, think about it. Buy when everyone else sell and sell when everyone else buy, that's how you make money out of crypto. That's not only in crypto. Everywhere if you want to make big money. Remember Warren Buffet ? Be greedy when others fearful .... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 27, 2014, 07:14:53 PM |
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Devil's Advocate: doesn't it sound a but pumpish to say you've wanted to raise MN payments to 20% for a while, when it's never, ever been mentioned. It's crossed my mind that it should be done, but I've never said it out loud... Never saw you say so, either... This'll be new troll focus, so why not address it now? I think I blurted it out a few hundred pages back. I am not a troll but I honestly don't understand how it's possible to start paying masternodes from block rewards without hardfork. And after this leaves a big question mark, the incresesing of the masternode payments start to look a little suspicious. But that's a different matter and won't be a problem if the above question is cleared.
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May 27, 2014, 07:15:27 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FID0Bgdb.jpg&t=665&c=LNJxvZ_bsCZVQg) What we can see here on this chart is called a RSI divergence, thats when the price goes lower but the RSI indicator makes a higher low. It signals a trend reversal. Just thought that yall would find that interesting. Common sense understanding of the herd mentality predicted this last month. Just thought you'd find that interesting now that you've given us insight into your palm reading... It's old news for me and my pals in the hot tub... Thats right, herd mentality is really dominate here in cryptoland. And the best source to understand herd mentality for me was Brett Steenbarger´s book on Trading psychology. http://kickass.to.unblock.to/brett-steenbarger-psychology-of-trading-zip-t3394440.htmlSince you are already familiar with the subject just continue having fun in the hot tub ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 27, 2014, 07:15:48 PM |
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Alex, it is very likely a bug with the network hashrate reports or a bug somwehere in general. I just don't buy x11 ASICs out of the blue, it takes a sustantially long development lifecycle to come up with these, and that to by NSA to break into a crap coin. The absence from every other x11 coin pretty much is a convincing proof of the lack of x11 ASICs.
The elite are obsessed with controlling and tracking money flows. Obfuscation of money flows is a threat to them, whether it comes from DRK, BCN, XC - whatever coin. Even if they control the choke points (because in 2014 cryptos are still considered worthless without converting them to fiat) they know that a day will come when this won't be necessary (kind' a like the matrix/neo/morpheus pic which says that he won't have to trade bitcoins). They are pro-active in the field because the dollar is the global lever that makes things happen. You don't spare a few million $$$ and let threats like crypto to fuck up the tens of trillions of dollars market. These guys are ruthless. They are manipulating markets like gold, which has a marketcap of >7 trillion USD and they have shown their aggressiveness in stuff like alternative currencies based on gold or silver through raids and confiscation. Things don't simply operate on chance. The reasoning here is good. The conclusion that x11 ASICs from NSA are mining Xtra Crap coins is an insult to your intelligence and I have read you for a long time. I don't know why you are falling this.
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May 27, 2014, 07:15:53 PM |
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Is there any interest in a complete compendium site that contains basically every piece of information that exists?
From mining hardware information to in depth explanation of master nodes?
Yeah, that would be fantastic. I would donate towards this There is a wiki, but it's closed to editing (for obvious reasons): https://darkcointalk.org/threads/masternode-payments-and-beyond.921/#post-5573. It would be nice to have something like that but it would be a huge task to assemble yourself.
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camosoul
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May 27, 2014, 07:16:36 PM |
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If there were X11 ASICs, they would be pushing giant TH/s, not MH/s.
They kind'a reached 1 TH/s. That's the thing. 1 machine alone would be multiple TH/s. IF you're going to blow that much money on something not mass-produced, no sales, sabotage only, and the moneyisn't even yhours, it's extorted at gunpoint (taxes) you're going to go all-in. SHA256/2R already 3+TH/s...
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May 27, 2014, 07:17:13 PM |
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Cum on, next walltest at 0.02 ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) buy buy buy buy buy ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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May 27, 2014, 07:17:21 PM |
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Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.
Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them. ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous. The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?
If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar. I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there. The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen. Alex, it is very likely a bug with the network hashrate reports or a bug somwehere in general. I just don't buy x11 ASICs out of the blue, it takes a sustantially long development lifecycle to come up with these, and that to by NSA to break into a crap coin. The absence from every other x11 coin pretty much is a convincing proof of the lack of x11 ASICs. I think you might be on the right track. They have this kind of gear at hand, would run ccminer then, may be a bit modified ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.knoxblogs.com%2Fatomiccity%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F11%2F2013%2F11%2Ftitan.jpg&t=665&c=UB9Bn69DmJKz6A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.anandtech.com%2Freviews%2Fvideo%2FNVIDIA%2FTitan%2Fperf.jpg&t=665&c=Hqfj20ZG-9DWWg)
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May 27, 2014, 07:17:43 PM |
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just got back from a long day driving, training the untrainable, and otherwise being nice to people. so its nice to get back to some f*ing awesome news. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hmm, ignored me yet? :-p no. I'm you're nr.1 fan. Sadly, there's plenty of room in the hot tub. Join us, the blood is still warm!
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May 27, 2014, 07:17:53 PM |
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German word for this is: Titten ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 27, 2014, 07:18:42 PM |
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Cum on, next walltest at 0.02 ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) buy buy buy buy buy ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) You've done the cum thing a few times. It makes me laugh every time. You need to check a dictionary to see the context of what you just wrote.
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