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[bigrcanada]

Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.

So if that's what you think needs doing, why not get off your arse and do it instead of moaning that nobody is doing it for you?

Because the market is avoiding Drk like Ebola due to it being closed source.

Ozziecoin.... that is your opinion... joe public doesnt know the difference between closed source,  pre-mined, ninja mined, ipo... what ever,  try explaining that to my parents and friends and their like, huh?   Joe public cares about utility.   Darkcoin will be opened sourced,  but that isnt the magic pill you think it is.   We voted back in February to keep the source closed till it was fully ready and ready for a full release,  not in beta or release candidates.   We still stand by that.... so for example if for you its a deal breaker and others... so be it and possibly when its development is completed you may want to join in if it has utility for you.

So be it. I did my bit to bring this matter up.

Ozziecoin....keep sharing your view. It is perfectly ok to challenge and express what you think.

I believe you know that the project is going to be open source. Evan has stated that about 2,000 pages or more back, and more recently too.

I think the timing of the open source is important. I'm not sure we are there yet.

While we wait for the open source timing, Kristov Atlas will give his view. He has access to the source code. Many will accept that as middle ground. He will say if there is malware or spyware that will make darkcoins traceable or open to tracing. That is what people care about - and who else would they get to do a similar review who is not as equally qualified?

+1  I agree... ive always believed in critical thinking and asking hard questions.  And we have a right to our own convictions.

[coins101]

What the FUCK is going on here. Testnet demominates me 14000 tDRK with 4 rounds, Mainet made me 90 with 4 rounds within 4hours.
Everything is fine and these BULLSHIT FUCKERS don´t stop spamming FULL TIME all the day they are not SLEEPING.

WHY DO YOU NOT DO SOMETHING WORTHFULL WITH YOUR TIME THAN SPAMMING ALL tHE DAY AROUND

I wish they would do something worthwhile......



This is the view of from my holiday house....but instead I spend some of my time dealing with FUD from those who don't see that alt-coins are R&D for Bitcoin which has to move like a tanker now it is so big and can't change course so easily.

R&D alt-coins that are aligned with Bitcoin can have their own value, or Bitcoin can one day try to integrate any of the features the market has deemed valuable.

It also means those types of transactions that Bitcoin would rather not be conducted through Bitcoin, well they can be conducted elsewhere to help Bitcoin with its image problems.

Trolling here is shooting Bitcoin in the foot.  Some people are just too stupid to understand the bigger picture of these things....

nice view but i had to copy and paste because it's not showing up on btctalk.

the thing is that darkcoin is not really r&d for bitcoin as far as anon and masternodes go. darkcoin maybe r&d for darkwallet to copy but that does not solve their centralization issue and other issues. that's why dark should stay closed source for many months while reassuring investors with several code reviews from people like kristov, andreas antonopoulos and maybe greg maxwell etc.

bitcoin can't do anon and masternodes without a hard fork and they won't do that. so darkcoin is a real threat to bitcoin holders long term and they know it. we have several bitcoin trolls here who hate alts and just use them as p&d's.

I think the point is its r&d for the ecosystem.   what coins101 is sayong i believe... is we are all in this together
... the outside world looks at crypto coin world as one whole dystem and not the way we see it from withen the fish.  Joe public sees us as one tied system, btc, drk, xmr what and we've all been to stupid to realize... when we fud or troll any coin... we are fudding/trolling ourselves... and shooting ourselves in the foot.  If we are getting fed up with bullshit between the different coins.. imagine what Joe Public thinks?  hes got nothing invested and just thinks this whole  system  is fucked.

Every single comment anyone makes thats negative and hurtfull... is a black mark on ALL cryptos.

I think you put it better than me.

Back to the sunny port side bar, and the pretty little blonde whose about to become another darkcoin supporter.

I'm recruiting them, one by one. The things we have to do in the name of financial freedom......

[McHammer]

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[UdjinM6]

We have progress......

All the coins went back to TOTAL BALANCE.......


But as we learned from my previous test (before I was rudely told to do this in ONE LUMP - lol j/k)

DRK will denominate this huge batch - one 900DRK lump at a time.
Slowly it will work it's way there this list.



http://imgur.com/dGh5sZ8

I got this all figured out - NOTHING IS WRONG WITH DRK!!!!!




As I was JUST about to post this - the next 900DRK kump is now being worked on :-)

Hmmmm... you reached round #1... so one of 900 was denominated... and look how it worked for me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8396979#msg8396979
interesting... keep it running and then start over with my settings pls (amount eq 100) and I'll try with amount eq 15000 now

PS. if someone is following my progress here - breaking in two 6K didn't worked for me, same story again

EDIT:

YAY! as soon as I set it to 15000 and hit apply it started to denominate!!

[bigrcanada]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

[McHammer]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks

and then i will post a pic of my dark holdings
and everyone is confused
imo the failing updates are crashing the price
trolls and whiners come after that
maybe dark is just overvalued with all the other coins
i dont know

[qwizzie]

We have progress......

All the coins went back to TOTAL BALANCE.......


But as we learned from my previous test (before I was rudely told to do this in ONE LUMP - lol j/k)

DRK will denominate this huge batch - one 900DRK lump at a time.
Slowly it will work it's way there this list.



http://imgur.com/dGh5sZ8

I got this all figured out - NOTHING IS WRONG WITH DRK!!!!!




As I was JUST about to post this - the next 900DRK kump is now being worked on :-)

Hmmmm... you reached round #1... so one of 900 was denominated... and look how it worked for me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8396979#msg8396979
interesting... keep it running and then start over with my settings pls (amount eq 100) and I'll try with amount eq 15000 now

PS. if someone is following my progress here - breaking in two 6K didn't worked for me, same story again

EDIT:

YAY! as soon as I set it to 15000 and hit apply it started to denominate!!

yeah.. putting Amount of Darkcoin to anonymize on 100 is wayyy too low when you have received 1000's of tdrk's .. try to keep it some 10% below yr Total Balance

[bigrcanada]

We have progress......

All the coins went back to TOTAL BALANCE.......


But as we learned from my previous test (before I was rudely told to do this in ONE LUMP - lol j/k)

DRK will denominate this huge batch - one 900DRK lump at a time.
Slowly it will work it's way there this list.



http://imgur.com/dGh5sZ8

I got this all figured out - NOTHING IS WRONG WITH DRK!!!!!




As I was JUST about to post this - the next 900DRK kump is now being worked on :-)

Hmmmm... you reached round #1... so one of 900 was denominated... and look how it worked for me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8396979#msg8396979
interesting... keep it running and then start over with my settings pls (amount eq 100) and I'll try with amount eq 15000 now

PS. if someone is following my progress here - breaking in two 6K didn't worked for me, same story again

EDIT:

YAY! as soon as I set it to 15000 and hit apply it started to denominate!!

yeah.. putting Amount of Darkcoin to anonymize on 100 is wayyy too low when you have received 1000's of tdrk's .. try to keep it some 10% below yr Total Balance

wow.  that sounds like good news.   we should send that info over to camo.

[superplus]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

this won't help..
trolls are trolling, the problem is uncertainty about rc4.
people are afraid that there are bugs, things have to get sort out wether there are some or not.
evan should take some time on that i think, i know he likes coding more but it lacks a bit of his response to the "issues"
posting screenshots of working rounds is useless imo, especially on test net. we are on mainnet already, the average user doesn't care about test net.

[bigrcanada]

Just Denom and ANON the whole thing.......

can we have several people verify this...
so to get this straight:
if the wallet is lets say under 8k you can denom and anon any percentage of the holdings and it works fine.

if the wallet is big lets say 20k drk in size,  it would need to be withen 10% of your balance?

please clarify thanks.

[Kai Proctor]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

this won't help..
trolls are trolling, the problem is uncertainty about rc4.
people are afraid that there are bugs, things have to get sort out wether there are some or not.
evan should take some time on that i think, i know he likes coding more but it lacks a bit of his response to the "issues"
posting screenshots of working rounds is useless imo, especially on test net. we are on mainnet already, the average user doesn't care about test net.

https://darkcointalk.org/forums/official-developer-thread.15/

[qwizzie]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

this won't help..
trolls are trolling, the problem is uncertainty about rc4.
people are afraid that there are bugs, things have to get sort out wether there are some or not.
evan should take some time on that i think, i know he likes coding more but it lacks a bit of his response to the "issues"
posting screenshots of working rounds is useless imo, especially on test net. we are on mainnet already, the average user doesn't care about test net.

the average user doesnt have 10.000's or more of Darkcoins... so its difficult to check on mainnet

[bigrcanada]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

this won't help..
trolls are trolling, the problem is uncertainty about rc4.
people are afraid that there are bugs, things have to get sort out wether there are some or not.
evan should take some time on that i think, i know he likes coding more but it lacks a bit of his response to the "issues"
posting screenshots of working rounds is useless imo, especially on test net. we are on mainnet already, the average user doesn't care about test net.

the average user doesnt have 10.000's or more of Darkcoins...

what seems to be the problem is with the bigger wallet holders... please correct me if im wrong,  member with average wallets havent reported isssues that i know of.

[qwizzie]

correct, thats why we are simulating some large wallets on testnet right now.
Its looking good so far with my 20K wallet.. although i'm getting drowned with
incoming transactions

[bamsterdam]

I really don't get it why is drk crashing so hard??

rc4 seems a success, yes it is till closed source but it seems to work.

People went crazy when rc3 was released and now we have a real working anon solution what cant even be compared to rc3 and instead of gaining some value its falling more and more. I really dont get it .. bitshares still doing good did I invest in the wrong anoncoin..? I must say I am/was really convinced about drk so I took a large amount of my btc in the last weeks to buy drk but I'm questioning myself now if it was a big mistake. And still when I think about it, it should be gaining value, all of the improvements that have been made lately and all the things you can do with these masternodes. Its a brand new concept that seems to work with probably endless possibilities and yet price is only falling ??

Can someone enlighten me ? I really don't get it. Or is everybody in the dark on this one ....?

Thanks

[McHammer]

I really don't get it why is drk crashing so hard?? Huh

rc4 seems a success, yes it is till closed source but it seems to work.

People went crazy when rc3 was released and now we have a real working anon solution what cant even be compared to rc3 and instead of gaining some value its falling more and more. I really dont get it .. bitshares still doing good did I invest in the wrong anoncoin..? I must say I am/was really convinced about drk so I took a large amount of my btc in the last weeks to buy drk but I'm questioning myself now if it was a big mistake. And still when I think about it, it should be gaining value, all of the improvements that have been made lately and all the things you can do with these masternodes. Its a brand new concept that seems to work with probably endless possibilities and yet price is only falling ??

Can someone enlighten me ? I really don't get it. Or is everybody in the dark on this one ....?

Thanks

TROLL DETECTED LOLOLOLOL

[UdjinM6]

We have progress......

All the coins went back to TOTAL BALANCE.......


But as we learned from my previous test (before I was rudely told to do this in ONE LUMP - lol j/k)

DRK will denominate this huge batch - one 900DRK lump at a time.
Slowly it will work it's way there this list.

....
http://imgur.com/dGh5sZ8

I got this all figured out - NOTHING IS WRONG WITH DRK!!!!!




As I was JUST about to post this - the next 900DRK kump is now being worked on :-)

Hmmmm... you reached round #1... so one of 900 was denominated... and look how it worked for me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8396979#msg8396979
interesting... keep it running and then start over with my settings pls (amount eq 100) and I'll try with amount eq 15000 now

PS. if someone is following my progress here - breaking in two 6K didn't worked for me, same story again

EDIT:

YAY! as soon as I set it to 15000 and hit apply it started to denominate!!

yeah.. putting Amount of Darkcoin to anonymize on 100 is wayyy too low when you have received 1000's of tdrk's .. try to keep it some 10% below yr Total Balance

wow.  that sounds like good news.   we should send that info over to camo.

Yep, but I don't see why that "too low" situation exists at all - this need to be fixed or explained. Anyway I'll start over increasing amount step by step to find out approximate amount where it "breaks"

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

this won't help..
trolls are trolling, the problem is uncertainty about rc4.
people are afraid that there are bugs, things have to get sort out wether there are some or not.
evan should take some time on that i think, i know he likes coding more but it lacks a bit of his response to the "issues"
posting screenshots of working rounds is useless imo, especially on test net. we are on mainnet already, the average user doesn't care about test net.

These screenshots are not for an "average user" but for those few in the community who cares and try to help Evan investigating issues. And testnet is perfect place to play different situations without a risk to loose money.

And yes. For an "average user" Darksend+ works flawlessly but we want to be 100% perfect for every kind of user.

[GhostPlayer]

Another round of tests.




Check the dates!! Not all those fees are for these 2x rounds ...






What else is to be said ? It WORKS !!

[bamsterdam]

I really don't get it why is drk crashing so hard?? Huh

rc4 seems a success, yes it is till closed source but it seems to work.

People went crazy when rc3 was released and now we have a real working anon solution what cant even be compared to rc3 and instead of gaining some value its falling more and more. I really dont get it .. bitshares still doing good did I invest in the wrong anoncoin..? I must say I am/was really convinced about drk so I took a large amount of my btc in the last weeks to buy drk but I'm questioning myself now if it was a big mistake. And still when I think about it, it should be gaining value, all of the improvements that have been made lately and all the things you can do with these masternodes. Its a brand new concept that seems to work with probably endless possibilities and yet price is only falling ??

Can someone enlighten me ? I really don't get it. Or is everybody in the dark on this one ....?

Thanks

TROLL DETECTED LOLOLOLOL

This is ridiculous if your serious.

Holding more than 2000drk you cant say on every question people are asking that they are trolling look at my post history you can see I am NOT a troll. Just a concerned drk holder who is trying to understand the current situation. Making me mad to be honest to be accused of trolling this quick.

[qwizzie]

We have progress......

All the coins went back to TOTAL BALANCE.......


But as we learned from my previous test (before I was rudely told to do this in ONE LUMP - lol j/k)

DRK will denominate this huge batch - one 900DRK lump at a time.
Slowly it will work it's way there this list.

....
http://imgur.com/dGh5sZ8

I got this all figured out - NOTHING IS WRONG WITH DRK!!!!!




As I was JUST about to post this - the next 900DRK kump is now being worked on :-)

Hmmmm... you reached round #1... so one of 900 was denominated... and look how it worked for me https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8396979#msg8396979
interesting... keep it running and then start over with my settings pls (amount eq 100) and I'll try with amount eq 15000 now

PS. if someone is following my progress here - breaking in two 6K didn't worked for me, same story again

EDIT:

YAY! as soon as I set it to 15000 and hit apply it started to denominate!!

yeah.. putting Amount of Darkcoin to anonymize on 100 is wayyy too low when you have received 1000's of tdrk's .. try to keep it some 10% below yr Total Balance

wow.  that sounds like good news.   we should send that info over to camo.

Yep, but I don't see why that "too low" situation exists at all - this need to be fixed or explained. Anyway I'll start over increasing amount step by step to find out approximate amount where it "breaks"

see the ''Amount of Darkcoin to anonymize'' as a lower boundry .. yr wallet needs to work up to that boundry and then it can stop anonymizing. You also cant set it higher then yr Total Balance as that will stop further Darksend Rounds.... specially with large wallets.