[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[tungfa]

Anonymity of Cryptocurrencies Part II – Cryptonote & Darkcoin ...>>>

http://coinbrief.net/anonymity-cryptocurrencies-2-cryptonote/
 

Thanks for the link tungfa,

I just posted a response drawing the authors attention to the current state of play with  DRK.

I feel that now darksend is opensourcing we can finally respond with confidence when there is any incomplete and/or erroneous info Blogged about DRK.

exatclty !
i am emailing all these retard publications with these bullshit researched stories
regarding their mistakes, and normally they are open to change it !
email them in a nice way !
(even they are totally retarted)

[crimi]

If i would have a vps with 2 ip addresses should something like this not work to start the masternode with the second ip address? Its running still on the primary ip not on the second ip but with a different port.

./darkcoind -datadir=XXXXXXXXXX -port= XXXX -externalip=XX.XXX.XXX.XX

[flipme]

Open source mustn't necessarily mean that its going to be published under a GPL or CC license.
The code could be open sourced, but with a proprietary license, limiting the rightful use to real developments based on the concept.
Why not...?

[BlockaFett]

Open source mustn't necessarily mean that its going to be published under a GPL or CC license.
The code could be open sourced, but with a proprietary license, limiting the rightful use to real developments based on the concept.
Why not...?

because open means open

Looking forward to the open sourcing, big step in the right direction for darkcoin.

[lobat999]

DRK is definitely here to stay.

[georgem]

Open source mustn't necessarily mean that its going to be published under a GPL or CC license.
The code could be open sourced, but with a proprietary license, limiting the rightful use to real developments based on the concept.
Why not...?

I don't know if this can even work, since large parts of darkcoin are based on bitcoin which is completely open source AND free.

So you can't take an open source base, change it a little bit and add new stuff and then say, from now on it's proprietary. (I could be wrong though)

Also, we are talking about the new kind of "principled money" here. So to make this ethical money proprietary would go against all principles that satoshi tried to implement with bitcoin.
(Yes, in my eyes all cryptocurrencies are ethical, since they directly compete with devilish concepts like fiat debt money)

It would be FED all over again, if evan duffield were to become the proprietary owner of darkcoin.
If this were to happen, I would sell all my DRK in an instant.

[flipme]

Open source mustn't necessarily mean that its going to be published under a GPL or CC license.
The code could be open sourced, but with a proprietary license, limiting the rightful use to real developments based on the concept.
Why not...?

because open means open

Looking forward to the open sourcing, big step in the right direction for darkcoin.

No, it doesn't.
Look at Adobe as an example. PostScript is open source.
But it doesn't mean you can copy the code over and build your own machine based on it.
If you do that, a license fee applies.

[flipme]

On the other hand, licensing Darksend® off as a trademark to other coin vendors would open up a lot of possibilities.
One of them would be the use of the Masternode® network for transactions in other coins, for a fee.
How about that? Masternode® owners could decide to offer the service to any other coin, just add the wallet.

[BlockaFett]

Open source mustn't necessarily mean that its going to be published under a GPL or CC license.
The code could be open sourced, but with a proprietary license, limiting the rightful use to real developments based on the concept.
Why not...?

because open means open

Looking forward to the open sourcing, big step in the right direction for darkcoin.

No, it doesn't.
Look at Adobe as an example. PostScript is open source.
But it doesn't mean you can copy the code over and build your own machine based on it.
If you do that, a license fee applies.

I think you missed the meaning of what I was saying.

Any trademarks, patents, special licenses in crypto are going to be bad because one of the strengths of crypto is it's 'openness' meaning its free to do whatever you want without restriction and everything is transparent.

I always thought the closed sourcing of drk was holding it back, now hopefully it will start to get more appreciation and trust and can start to grow as a serious currency IRL.

[georgem]

If you lay down with dogs (lawyers), you will wake up with fleas.  

The good thing about darkcoin is that it came into existence without asking anyone for permission.
If we now turn this around and expect everyone who wants to use darkcoin (in any way they like) to ask for permission first, then we break about all principles we started with.

If the darkcoin foundation wants to register its corporate identity, sure why not.
But the darkcoin protocol HAS to stay absolutely open source and free, or else this will be the biggest obstacle for further adoption.

I am sure evan duffield absolutely agrees with all of this.

[georgem]

Any trademarks, patents, special licenses in crypto are going to be bad because one of the strengths of crypto is it's 'openness' meaning its free to do whatever you want without restriction and everything is transparent.

I always thought the closed sourcing of drk was holding it back, now hopefully it will start to get more appreciation and trust and can start to grow as a serious currency IRL.

I agree wholeheartedly.

The word "dark" (as in "dark market" or "black market") comes from the government declaring something illegal (your privacy, your freedom), and in such an environement we are forced to operate in "darkness" to counteract the ill effects that come from government insanity.

If we now start using government legislation to regulate darkcoin (licensing, patents, etc...) we are in fact turning into "light" coin, as in being "government approved".

We wouldn't want that!!! 

[McHammer]

what are you guys thinking about the XC ITO ?
biggest competitor imo

[valentino007]

What the hell is wrong with Mintpal?

[tungfa]

Just Tweeted everybody on our PR List with a  reminder of Open Source tmorow !
Do the same !
Let create a Buzz !!!

[patrolman]

Any trademarks, patents, special licenses in crypto are going to be bad because one of the strengths of crypto is it's 'openness' meaning its free to do whatever you want without restriction and everything is transparent.

I always thought the closed sourcing of drk was holding it back, now hopefully it will start to get more appreciation and trust and can start to grow as a serious currency IRL.

I agree wholeheartedly.

The word "dark" (as in "dark market" or "black market") comes from the government declaring something illegal (your privacy, your freedom), and in such an environement we are forced to operate in "darkness" to counteract the ill effects that come from government insanity.

If we now start using government legislation to regulate darkcoin (licensing, patents, etc...) we are in fact turning into "light" coin, as in being "government approved".

We wouldn't want that!!! 

Well put by both of you! I couldn't agree more.

[tungfa]

i just got a great tip (regarding PR)
from jpr (well done man) regarding a conversation
on IRC he saw (Magazine related)

if you guys see or hear anything related to PR, News Publication,...
please let me know as i can always follow up, get contacts, talk to writers
or try to correct errors !!

and i STILL need any interesting contacts for the
OS Press Release mailing !! (coin magazines, writers, publications,
tech writers, bankers , investment pieps, ....>>)

i just send out tweets to everybody on our list
with a reminder to the Open Source release monday !!!
do the same, spread the word !!!

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Just an unofficial status check... by reply or PM whichever you prefer, how many Darkfans do we have who are good enough writers of a non-English language that they could do a high quality translation of a short semi-technical text such as a press release?

[georgem]

Just an unofficial status check... by reply or PM whichever you prefer, how many Darkfans do we have who are good enough writers of a non-English language that they could do a high quality translation of a short semi-technical text such as a press release?

I can make translations to german on a pretty professional level.

[thelonecrouton]

Sir Crouton:

Do you have pages / threads up for your various projects? If not, why not?

Mostly no, because people would harass me.

"You've done that wrong, it should do this instead, are we there yet, make it sing, why the fuck isn't it blue, forget about your shitty stuff and come work unpaid on my shitty stuff instead, why is it fucking blue..." etc.  

p2p market progressing slowly, encrypted comms, totally volatile, currently debating how much RAM I can get away with demanding from each connected client.  

[oblox]

Anyone having issues with Mintpal withdrawing coins should try the direct link:

https://www.mintpal.com/withdraw/DRK

Got the last of my remnants out this morning even with the site wacky.