Bitcoin Miners

[Searing]

Rebecca contacted me a few days ago and I've requested a prototype to be sent out to be tested/verified and reviewed by myself. They have agreed so I will update if/when anything actually happens.

again i hope i am incorrect......but that would be something if it is the case......

again if they are legit this was the most inept launch in the history of bicoin imho considering the past issues with scams/delays etc

I will eat crow gladly if incorrect....but man their launch if legit was quite the clust*f***k imho

we await your report

Searing

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[MiningBuddy]

Rebecca contacted me a few days ago and I've requested a prototype to be sent out to be tested/verified and reviewed by myself. They have agreed so I will update if/when anything actually happens.

again i hope i am incorrect......but that would be something if it is the case......

again if they are legit this was the most inept launch in the history of bicoin imho considering the past issues with scams/delays etc

I will eat crow gladly if incorrect....but man their launch if legit was quite the clust*f***k imho

we await your report

Searing

Yeah I'm not exactly counting any chickens here but we will see aye.

[merv77]

Hi all, I live close-by and shall be paying them a visit on Monday (as I want to be sure the building is physically open).

If I find a team there, and it all seems legit I will be ordering 1-2 units there and then.

As soon as I arrive home I will post up all info/photos/videos of my visit.

See you Monday!

JOINTSTARR

I appreciate you time and effort and look forward to your evidence....
BUT, how are you going to prove we can trust you..? 

you've just become member couple weeks ago and have 1 post under your belt. 
No, offence but how do we know you're not on the dark side and actually working with them.

[jointstarr]

Hi all, I live close-by and shall be paying them a visit on Monday (as I want to be sure the building is physically open).

If I find a team there, and it all seems legit I will be ordering 1-2 units there and then.

As soon as I arrive home I will post up all info/photos/videos of my visit.

See you Monday!

JOINTSTARR

I appreciate you time and effort and look forward to your evidence....
BUT, how are you going to prove we can trust you..? 

you've just become member couple weeks ago and have 1 post under your belt. 
No, offence but how do we know you're not on the dark side and actually working with them.

I am a graphic designer. 

[s1lverbox]

Hi all, I live close-by and shall be paying them a visit on Monday (as I want to be sure the building is physically open).

If I find a team there, and it all seems legit I will be ordering 1-2 units there and then.

As soon as I arrive home I will post up all info/photos/videos of my visit.

See you Monday!

JOINTSTARR

I appreciate you time and effort and look forward to your evidence....
BUT, how are you going to prove we can trust you..? 

you've just become member couple weeks ago and have 1 post under your belt. 
No, offence but how do we know you're not on the dark side and actually working with them.

I am a graphic designer. 

Rebbeca, can i visit your place and make few photo shots? I hope essex address is real so im not far away from you.

Thanks in advance.

[squish]

The VAT situation seems wrong to me

Will there be additional duties and taxes payable on my purchase?
No. The price of the product is the total price you pay. No VAT, No delivery charge. Customs import duty may be applicable dependant on the receiving country procedures. This is the buyer’s responsibility.

Being in the UK, the law says that if you expect to go over the yearly threshold of £79,000 in the next 30 days the company must register.

[Mota]

This is not the response we wanted to receive as you can imagine from the community!

I want to clarify some peoples comments which claim we are a scam company which are ridiculous.

1) Yes we used Wordpress to build our website but also had 2 members on my team, Jack and Oliver, working full time on the site, which is why I posted a blog saying congratulations to them for the site. We are very pleased with it.

2) Our products are not "photoshopped". They are custom designed CAD products in the initial stages. We do have more designs being developed currently and will add these to the site when they arrive.

3) Our domain registrar uses Private Registration which protects us from spam and doesn't list contact details on WHOIS; however, our address and phone number are on the website if you wish to call us/come and visit us.

4) We use US Dollar as our main currency on the website due to it being the internationally recognised currency of the world. We also list our products in GBP and Bitcoin currency.

5) As we have stated, we have been developing the ASICs in house for the past year. Our 20nm microprocessors are built here in the UK. We do not use an external foundry. We have been building microprocessors for over 25 years and have worked in numerous industries supplying products and chips. They are near on finished and the reason why we have decided to take pre-orders is simply to gauge interest. We do not want to commit to producing thousands of units if we will struggle to sell them. We were confident people would take to our products and this response has been hard to take.

6) We do have a refund policy. It is on our FAQ page. We are very confident in our timescales if interest is there; therefore, will be offering a full refund if we miss our delivery week of the 7th April by more than 7 days.

7) We partnered with a social media and PR company to try to target customers who may be interested in our products. This resulted in some higher quality than other Facebook page likes and Twitter followers; however, also resulted in some low quality social links.

I hope this helps clarify some peoples responses to my announcement.

Please explain to me then why my inquiry regarding your legitimization (Company ID/Vat number/Linkedin profiles of the teammember) and the payment method remains unanswered (sent per email...).

[papamoi]

Got an email

about fiat payment:

Hi xxxxxxx,

Unfortunately payment is via Bitcoin only to offer protection to both buyer and seller.
Would you like me to cancel your order?


Kind regards,

Aileen Francis
Senior Customer Support

i m wondering wich kind of protection bitcoin is offering??

[raskul]

Got an email

about fiat payment:

Hi xxxxxxx,

Unfortunately payment is via Bitcoin only to offer protection to both buyer and seller.
Would you like me to cancel your order?


Kind regards,

Aileen Francis
Senior Customer Support

i m wondering wich kind of protection bitcoin is offering??

protection = seller wins scam, buyer scammed. this protects the whole scam.

[Biodom]

There are no linkedin profiles for any of the shown people. At least they are not easy to identify.
No history whatsoever.
Unless there is an explanation, I would not order from this outfit.

[studio1one]

No response from Rebecca for my offer to go down today or Monday and take photos for the forum.

Rebecca. Offer still stands, will get my arse down there for 9AM Monday morning with camera and report back to the forum.

Please contact me to organise.

[jointstarr]

No response from Rebecca for my offer to go down today or Monday and take photos for the forum.

Rebecca. Offer still stands, will get my arse down there for 9AM Monday morning with camera and report back to the forum.

Please contact me to organise.

I'm not waiting around for a response, I am going straight down there on Monday to get answers.

[TookDk]

Hi all, I live close-by and shall be paying them a visit on Monday (as I want to be sure the building is physically open).

If I find a team there, and it all seems legit I will be ordering 1-2 units there and then.

As soon as I arrive home I will post up all info/photos/videos of my visit.

See you Monday!

JOINTSTARR

I appreciate you time and effort and look forward to your evidence....
BUT, how are you going to prove we can trust you..? 

you've just become member couple weeks ago and have 1 post under your belt. 
No, offence but how do we know you're not on the dark side and actually working with them.

I am a graphic designer. 

I do not intend to be rude, I am just curious: what interest does a graphic designer have in highend bitcoin mining equipment? Are you planning on buying a $7000 unit?

[Skaterdiejosh]

Well guess we will find out Monday forsure sup ?? Might be to late as they allready have half of all the 5 th miners sold .. Im also pretty interessted and just spent about a hour trying to match photos on there about page with real life people online.. I only came up with one positive match on a picture ..


http://au.linkedin.com/pub/david-brown/34/451/8b2


This is for sure the same guy but even has different picture I was not able to match up anyone else on there list on either Facebook or LinkedIn .. That's pretty bad!! I havnt even gone to there facebook page yet does it have the Facebook accounts for all team members there ?? Going to check into this more .....

[Skaterdiejosh]

Maybe its not the same guy they look really close to the same person but there info sounds different!! There is no excuse for not being able to verify the people on the team!! If this cant be done you would be stupid to spend any of your hard earned bitcoin here !! Has anyone else been able to verify a single person on  there about page ??

[Biodom]

That's NOT the same guy on the picture and details are all wrong.

[merv77]

first email I received



second email just received



don't buy off this company till confirmed by well known member from this forum
I really think they're cleaning up before Monday and there's not going to be anything to check out.

@CYPHER, I think you're the only one I would trust so far that's offered to check them out.  please consider a visit Monday or too many people are going to be ripped off.
I'm sure good or bad there will be a few tips that should cover your time and fuel.

[Skaterdiejosh]

I will also tip !!!

[merv77]

this will turn out to the quickest and most lucrative scam of all time.

Don't give them a penny till confirmed by well known member of this forum

no offence, but I wouldn't believe/trust a 'junior' or 'newbie' member for checking them out.

[augustocroppo]

UK.Gov seems to think they existed for quite some time... you have proof otherwise?

https://i.imgur.com/fzSG1YM.png

Or you guys too busy whacking off to Rebecca's pic to investigate, and would rather just troll?

We all predicted the "unknown" asic companies secretly developing...and here they are... now you chastise the secret development, when it's a key component to any high tech business, and when it unfolded just as predicted?

http://www.ctsminer.com/about-us/

ABOUT US

Crypto Technology Systems, the team behind the CTS Miner, have been established in the microprocessor industry since 1975. CTS are an elite group formed internally from a world-class microprocessor engineering company at the forefront of Embedded controller design and manufacture, supplying products for a wide range of applications including Aircraft Testing, Remote Switchgear Operation, Stock Control, Instrumentation, Oil and Petrochemical Exploration, Marine Science and Environmental Control.

We have been following the cryptocurrency industry, and particularly Bitcoin mining, for the past year and a half. In May 2013, a team was put together to work on producing Bitcoin mining ASIC chips to be used in miners. Our small management team have had the backing of 50 full time microprocessor designers and engineers here in the UK. Over the past 8 months, we have worked tirelessly to build a group of products which outperform all competitors that will be available at a price which is un-matchable.

The "Crypto Technology System" is not a subsidiary of "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". They are completely different entities. The first entity is fake and unregistered, while the later entity is real and registered. The people operating the first entity is misrepresenting the later entity. They are providing false information to instigate a false sense of confidence among potential customers victims.

http://www.ctsminer.com/contact-us/

Unit 17A
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606056

http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_contact_us.html

Cambridge Microprocessor
Systems Limited

Unit 17, Zone D
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom

Telephone: +44 1371 606050
Facsimile: +44 1371 606051

The "Crypto Technology System" is using a very similar address and telephone number used by "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". Notice the slight difference is the zone letter for the address and the last digits for the telephone number.



A research using domaintools.com Internet page shows the domain ctsminer.com was redirect from the IP address 185.8.106.66 to the IP address 199.188.201.252. In accordance with the above evidence, the Internet Page was host in the IP address 185.8.106.66 from 13rd January 2014 to 17th January 2014.  An examination of the IP address 185.8.106.66 reveals some interesting results, such as:

https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/185.8.106.66/information/



The WHOIS record on 19th January 2014 for the domain butterflyiab.com matches exactly with the WHOIS record on 12th January 2014 for the domain ctsminers.com:





That means it is very likely the same person operating the domain ctsminers.com is also responsible for the domain butterflyiab.com. Both domains were first directed to a hosting service located in Lithuania. One domain is being used to perpetrate a fraudulent scheme and the other was registered to prey on people which misspell the official domain from Butterfly Labs.