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January 24, 2015, 01:20:00 AM
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Up to 23 hours, do you think someone is withholding??

Wow, found one within seconds of posting this Grin

Always works!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441465.msg10148492#msg10148492
To the point I wonder whether implementing a robot which posts such a message everytime a block luck goes under 100% would contribute to pool mega-performance  Grin

Naugh, too much hassle. It is easier to wait until a user writes it :-p
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January 25, 2015, 12:43:37 PM
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Let's try it again..

Withholding attack! Withholding attack!

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January 25, 2015, 01:16:03 PM
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Let's try it again..

Withholding attack! Withholding attack!

It has to come from deep in your heart. Like *withholding attack*?
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January 25, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
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Let's try it again..

Withholding attack! Withholding attack!
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January 25, 2015, 01:49:13 PM
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Hehehe :-)

Just started a discussion about a possible scenario for a withholding attack in the hardware section. Would be glad if some savvy miners could put some logic into it...
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January 25, 2015, 03:09:21 PM
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So www server maintenance hit during a pretty long block, then failed because it took too long.  (Part of the maintenance involves a backup of all shares since the last block)

I reset the maintenance and it should be good to go soon.

We did find a block at some point during the maintenance and it will show up when it's done.  (Payouts already happened for it, since as always the pool itself is not affected by the www server)

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January 25, 2015, 03:39:30 PM
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Let's try it again..

Withholding attack! Withholding attack!

It has to come from deep in your heart. Like *withholding attack*?

Two members murmuring "withholding attack" - et voila: Two blocks found:

https://blockchain.info/de/blocks/Eligius
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January 25, 2015, 03:40:31 PM
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Let's try it again..

Withholding attack! Withholding attack!

It has to come from deep in your heart. Like *withholding attack*?

Two members murmuring "withholding attack" - et voila: Two blocks found:

https://blockchain.info/de/blocks/Eligius
I keep my tin hat nearby and while I'm not smart enough to prove it. it sure seems like blocks found have diminished
on a lot of pools lately.

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January 25, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
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Let's try it again..

Withholding attack! Withholding attack!

It has to come from deep in your heart. Like *withholding attack*?

Two members murmuring "withholding attack" - et voila: Two blocks found:

https://blockchain.info/de/blocks/Eligius
I keep my tin hat nearby and while I'm not smart enough to prove it. it sure seems like blocks found have diminished
on a lot of pools lately.

Therefore, I've started this discussion:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935409.0

I'm not a friend of conspiracy theories, but would love to read from experts if I'm totally wrong or not.
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January 26, 2015, 09:10:29 PM
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I averaged the luck percentage from all blocks since about four months ago and graphed them. The luck slump looks pretty mellow from here actually..

http://gyazo.com/652ad85b5702a7e8608208a4d2196aca

(expected value is 500)

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January 27, 2015, 09:49:38 PM
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I averaged the luck percentage from all blocks since about four months ago and graphed them. The luck slump looks pretty mellow from here actually..

http://gyazo.com/652ad85b5702a7e8608208a4d2196aca

(expected value is 500)
Can you explain how your graph was made, in detail ? The expected optimal average luck is (of course) 100%, and recent blocks show a lot of variance, so your graph is not very telling as is.

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January 27, 2015, 10:23:57 PM
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There is no such thing as luck and variance in Mathematics it is a constant and from what i understand about Bitcoin, Mathematics is its core IMO

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January 27, 2015, 10:36:35 PM
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There is no such thing as luck and variance in Mathematics it is a constant and from what i understand about Bitcoin, Mathematics is its core IMO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance
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In probability theory and statistics, variance measures how far a set of numbers is spread out....
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January 28, 2015, 03:45:59 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*
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January 28, 2015, 06:43:38 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*

Isn't that a form of contraception?

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January 28, 2015, 06:46:19 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*

Isn't that a form of contraception?

Well, never saw it this way. But hey, it works!
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January 28, 2015, 06:50:58 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*

Found a block at 28% luck and crying about a withholding attack? *sigh*  We've had far worse rounds in the past.

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January 28, 2015, 07:03:41 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*

Found a block at 28% luck and crying about a withholding attack? *sigh*  We've had far worse rounds in the past.
Obviously. Also, the insidious withholding attack was so well executed that it intercepted and nuked golden nonces from all the users of the pool for the 12 hours it was ongoing.
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January 28, 2015, 07:05:18 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*

Found a block at 28% luck and crying about a withholding attack? *sigh*  We've had far worse rounds in the past.
Obviously. Also, the insidious withholding attack was so well executed that it intercepted and nuked golden nonces from all the users of the pool for the 12 hours it was ongoing.

That's impressive work. lol

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January 28, 2015, 07:23:20 PM
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Never mind mathematics, variance et all. It is time for some magic words...

*withholding attack?*

Found a block at 28% luck and crying about a withholding attack? *sigh*  We've had far worse rounds in the past.
Obviously. Also, the insidious withholding attack was so well executed that it intercepted and nuked golden nonces from all the users of the pool for the 12 hours it was ongoing.

It makes me shiver when I imagine how it would work if I were singing it...
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