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June 04, 2015, 07:25:48 PM
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SO it's not just me, i just don't know how to pin it down and thought I understand how the pay system worked with this pool and my pay stats haven't seemed to change for all most a week.
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June 04, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
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Something must be up. I used to get payments without a hitch and 'Estimated Change' was always correctly added after a block. Now it just seems to add much less even though the hash rate is more even. Wierd.

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June 04, 2015, 08:06:08 PM
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Something must be up. I used to get payments without a hitch and 'Estimated Change' was always correctly added after a block. Now it just seems to add much less even though the hash rate is more even. Wierd.

Also, now AFTER 2 block were solved, it says I am 142.35BTC BEHIND the payment queue... WYH? I was at 138BTC BEFORE the last 2 blocks..

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June 04, 2015, 08:15:26 PM
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 mine says that Approximately 0.11827577 BTC remaining to enter payout queue. but and i hope it is because Eligius  routine maintenance.


my payout should be  0.16827577 BTC or around there and again i hope it is because of the maintenance, if not its time to move on and form a new strat for me any way .
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June 04, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
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Something must be up. I used to get payments without a hitch and 'Estimated Change' was always correctly added after a block. Now it just seems to add much less even though the hash rate is more even. Wierd.



SO it is suppose to after each block Ive been seeing nothing, in fact i think it said once for me i was at  0.2 or around there then the block finished nothing went in to the as of last block . as i said i have no idea how to pin it or prove  it but wait for others to complain then that gives me idea on how to explain it.



This is my last try with them I'm watching my number when these two blocks finish and nothing moves time for me to call it. and only have one S5 here .
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June 04, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
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What exactly was Eliguis luck in the last 7-8 days?
The number I see as payment supposedly accumulated vs payment that is "theoretical" shows that Eligius had 60% luck.
Is that so-I would appreciate some numbers.
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June 05, 2015, 03:28:42 AM
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What exactly was Eliguis luck in the last 7-8 days?
The number I see as payment supposedly accumulated vs payment that is "theoretical" shows that Eligius had 60% luck.
Is that so-I would appreciate some numbers.


10 blocks: 64.9%
12 hours: 65.87%
24 hours: 65.87%
7 days: 61.7%
30 days: 80.08%
90 days: 85.88%

I'm still at 87% shares here.

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June 05, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
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What exactly was Eliguis luck in the last 7-8 days?
The number I see as payment supposedly accumulated vs payment that is "theoretical" shows that Eligius had 60% luck.
Is that so-I would appreciate some numbers.


10 blocks: 64.9%
12 hours: 65.87%
24 hours: 65.87%
7 days: 61.7%
30 days: 80.08%
90 days: 85.88%

I'm still at 87% shares here.

M

Thanks for the numbers. I guesstimated 60% in the last 7 days, you got 61.7, so close enough.
I am curious as to long periods of underperformance as far as luck is concerned: 85% vs 99% in the last 90 days.
How statistically likely this is?
Did Eligius ever had 115% luck for 90 days? I can't remember if it did or not.
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June 06, 2015, 07:12:32 AM
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What exactly was Eliguis luck in the last 7-8 days?
The number I see as payment supposedly accumulated vs payment that is "theoretical" shows that Eligius had 60% luck.
Is that so-I would appreciate some numbers.


10 blocks: 64.9%
12 hours: 65.87%
24 hours: 65.87%
7 days: 61.7%
30 days: 80.08%
90 days: 85.88%

I'm still at 87% shares here.

M
Can you please show how do you get these stats?
I downloaded an ran mminer monitor and entered my pool info but can't find these stats anywhere in the program.

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June 07, 2015, 02:16:21 AM
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What exactly was Eliguis luck in the last 7-8 days?
The number I see as payment supposedly accumulated vs payment that is "theoretical" shows that Eligius had 60% luck.
Is that so-I would appreciate some numbers.


10 blocks: 64.9%
12 hours: 65.87%
24 hours: 65.87%
7 days: 61.7%
30 days: 80.08%
90 days: 85.88%

I'm still at 87% shares here.

M
Can you please show how do you get these stats?
I downloaded an ran mminer monitor and entered my pool info but can't find these stats anywhere in the program.

I think you want the M's Pool Monitor instead.

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June 07, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
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Great day today Smiley

Had all my share paid out that got 'shelved'
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June 09, 2015, 05:58:57 AM
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Great day today Smiley

Had all my share paid out that got 'shelved'

Things have been  good for me for the last two or three days .






ty  who ever fixed it Smiley .
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June 09, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
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Great day today Smiley

Had all my share paid out that got 'shelved'

Things have been  good for me for the last two or three days .






ty  who ever fixed it Smiley .


You're welcome (I mumbled the magic words a couple of times)
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June 09, 2015, 10:48:16 AM
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ty  who ever fixed it Smiley .
You're welcome (I mumbled the magic words a couple of times)

This time it looks like yesterday someone pointed 2PH to eligius and since then hit 4 of the last 8 blocks found by the pool.

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June 09, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
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Wow, that was a lot of to-do about nothing... Look at any block explorer and tell me how many "empty" blocks you find. I've never seen one, though I know they can theoretically exist. Just because of this conversation, I think I'll pay more attention to it. but seriously?

Over 23% of all blocks are empty, quite a significant figure and worthy of discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085800.0

So yes, seriously.
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June 10, 2015, 08:08:55 AM
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You forget that during the first year of mining there were actually no transactions to process at all. The correct number should be for the last year or two only and it will be around 1-2% probably

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June 10, 2015, 05:47:39 PM
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You forget that during the first year of mining there were actually no transactions to process at all. The correct number should be for the last year or two only and it will be around 1-2% probably

I wonder if a plot of cumulative empty blocks vs time since previous block would be interesting.


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June 10, 2015, 08:24:57 PM
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You forget that during the first year of mining there were actually no transactions to process at all. The correct number should be for the last year or two only and it will be around 1-2% probably

See link I posted above, it's a little higher than 2% recently, but not much:
8 of the last 189 blocks are empty.  25 of the last 1000 are empty.

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June 10, 2015, 11:35:05 PM
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This time it looks like yesterday someone pointed 2PH to eligius and since then hit 4 of the last 8 blocks found by the pool.

If I take a "normal" calculator, the average result for 2 PH should be about 21 coins a day, i.e. a little bit less than a block.

"These" PH found four blocks in 2 days, i.e. way above the average.

If I take the same calculator (alloscomp) and put in the 8 PH Eligius has at the moment, a little bit more than 3 blocks should be the average per day.

During the last couple of weeks, the luck wasn't very high. So this may be a coincidence. But when I look how the difficulty is currently rising, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a test run from some manufacturer for a new chip.
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June 11, 2015, 08:35:04 AM
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... it's a little higher than 2% recently, but not much

Exactly my point 2% is not much:
 
  • There is a new block each 600 seconds (by design)
  • Once the block changes, the pool needs CPU power (and time) to prepare a new list of transactions and send it to miners
  • If the pool waits for that list before sending work to miners it will waste their resources - mining on old block and producing staled shares just to be rejected later
  • Long pooling was introduced exactly for that - to reduce the staled shares by providing new block to work on, immediately when the old is solved from someone
  • But the pool server needs time for that, except if it is empty block which is much faster and can be partially pre-calculated

OK, so we need to send such empty block and replace it later with a normal one ... now from the miner's perspective:
 
  • New empty block is received - miner start working on it not wasting power on rejects
  • New full block arrives (2-5 sec later, depending on pool power and miner connection speed) - the miner discards the work on empty block, BUT only those that are waiting for processing, because if the processing was started (i.e. sent to the ASIC chip) it may produce a valid block
  • The jobs that were sent to the ASIC chip may take from 1 to 3 sec (depending on miner processing power and connection speed) to be returned as valid solution to the pool

OK, so an empty block may be returned for up to 10 sec - lets see how it compares to 600 sec - 1.66666%
How much is 2% - 12 sec and 2.5% is 15 sec

Q. What if the pool does not send an empty block to work on?
A. The miner works for 2-5 sec on stale block or about 1% stale and useless shares

Q. Which is better 2% empty blocks or 1% wasted work
A. ?
Hint: Note that solving an empty block strengthens the block chain and does not interfere with solving another one full of transactions few seconds later

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