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Author Topic: [14000Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB  (Read 931350 times)
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July 09, 2015, 10:15:27 AM
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This one is clearly above 0.0001 BTC/KB, so Luke, where exactly is the problem?
Not sure why this time, but Eligius's node still didn't receive it.

Just this one or all of the unconfirmed (like 10 of them)?
I see ccc86e9316fcd17f1cf1223c5f1dd64633e70a150a71a1c6a53b0fe0d6f39991 and 04515f9e358dbff637ee3c6c31471d2b2a8be91ddb75b4fa4872b4c5568f796e on the node, but not being mined.
04515... was being mined an hour ago, though.
I wonder what's going on with that.

It's still shown as being unconfirmed: http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/04515f9e358dbff637ee3c6c31471d2b2a8be91ddb75b4fa4872b4c5568f796e

Where did you see it being mined?
In a template. We didn't find a block during that time, so it's not on the blockchain.

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July 09, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
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Sorry, I must be too tired or something... I can't see how this is possible.
Analysing a core dump, I can see it's not getting into vecPriority, but getrawtransaction is succeeding so it must be in the mempool or confirmed... and it obviously isn't confirmed. Yet I don't see how it's possible for it to be in the mempool and not be making it into vecPriority without the "invalid input" logging, which isn't in the log file either.
Stumped. :/

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July 09, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
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When does NMC payout occur from merged mining?  I received NMC once and have not gotten it again.

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July 11, 2015, 03:42:57 PM
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When does NMC payout occur from merged mining?  I received NMC once and have not gotten it again.

I believe it's still a manual process, and doesn't happen that regularly.

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July 22, 2015, 05:00:15 AM
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There seems to be a hard limit of maximum number of workers for a given address. Of course, that's not something most people will ever see, but I bumped into it without noticing a few months ago, and I have been mining without having shares fully rewarded.

The symptoms were : approx. 25 Th/s worth of hash which do appeared on the 256 seconds stats were never present on the 3 hours stats, and a number of workers did not appear on the stats list, although they were hashing happily.

I got confirmation by Luke Jr. privately that there is indeed a hard limit, set to 256 workers (although I have more than that in the list, most being defunct at the moment).

The immediate workaround is to reuse old worker names for new miners, of course it makes it necessary to maintain some kind of indirection table for those names on my end, but it can still do it up to, if I understand, 256 workers.

I plan further extension in the middle term, so I wonder if it would be possible to raise that artificial limit to, say, 1024 workers, without being too heavy on the pool infrastructure ?

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July 22, 2015, 06:13:22 AM
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Maybe it is possible to decrease the timeout to which unused names fall off the list?

I do find they stay there too long.  A few days is enough.  I have not hit this limit either and I have over 50Th, so I admit it is rare, but why keep old names around so long?

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July 22, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
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Did something change with vardiff?  My difficulty keeps alternating between 512 and 1024 and my hashrate keeps yo-yoing as a result.  I know the hashrate probably shouldn't yo-yo from that but it totally is.  It happens on my S4 and it happens on another address where I have 2 S5's. 

EDIT: Actually I am assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the alternating difficulty is causing the yo-yo on the hashrate graph.  My S4 is alternating between 1024 and 2048 and has always exhibited more hashrate variation than the two S5's but in the past few days they are both swinging up and back in a rather wider arc than I usually see.

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July 23, 2015, 11:07:51 AM
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There seems to be a hard limit of maximum number of workers for a given address. Of course, that's not something most people will ever see, but I bumped into it without noticing a few months ago, and I have been mining without having shares fully rewarded.

The symptoms were : approx. 25 Th/s worth of hash which do appeared on the 256 seconds stats were never present on the 3 hours stats, and a number of workers did not appear on the stats list, although they were hashing happily.

I got confirmation by Luke Jr. privately that there is indeed a hard limit, set to 256 workers (although I have more than that in the list, most being defunct at the moment).

The immediate workaround is to reuse old worker names for new miners, of course it makes it necessary to maintain some kind of indirection table for those names on my end, but it can still do it up to, if I understand, 256 workers.

I plan further extension in the middle term, so I wonder if it would be possible to raise that artificial limit to, say, 1024 workers, without being too heavy on the pool infrastructure ?


There is an exploit/DoS that was happening vs the stats servers re: many workers on an address.  The reward system (which produces the 256/128 second stats) is immune since it doesn't care about workers.  But the stats currently are capped.

Maybe it is possible to decrease the timeout to which unused names fall off the list?

I do find they stay there too long.  A few days is enough.  I have not hit this limit either and I have over 50Th, so I admit it is rare, but why keep old names around so long?

The way the stats are pulling data based on the full share database it's hard to actually timeout worker names at all without expensive (processing wise) code.  A stats overhaul (in the works) should help with this eventually.

Did something change with vardiff?  My difficulty keeps alternating between 512 and 1024 and my hashrate keeps yo-yoing as a result.  I know the hashrate probably shouldn't yo-yo from that but it totally is.  It happens on my S4 and it happens on another address where I have 2 S5's. 

EDIT: Actually I am assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the alternating difficulty is causing the yo-yo on the hashrate graph.  My S4 is alternating between 1024 and 2048 and has always exhibited more hashrate variation than the two S5's but in the past few days they are both swinging up and back in a rather wider arc than I usually see.

The only change to difficulty was bumping the minimum to 512.  This shouldn't effect you if you're over 500Gh or so.  Alternating between difficulties is normal when a device is on the border between vardiff levels.  I'm sure your 12 hour hashrate is fine.

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July 24, 2015, 11:41:29 AM
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Hello,

It is possible to see how much BTC i get per founded block.

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July 24, 2015, 09:35:29 PM
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It is possible to see how much BTC i get per found block.
The pool as a whole is rewarded 25 btc (plus some spare change coming from transaction fees) per block found.
Your own share of that reward, plus some shelved shares in times of good luck, is displayed in the "estimated change" of your stats for the current block.

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July 29, 2015, 05:13:39 PM
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can i mine here with a Coinbase  address Huh

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August 05, 2015, 01:08:04 PM
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can i mine here with a Coinbase  address Huh

Sure, address is simply where the funds are sent.

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August 05, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
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Can i mine with MultiBit HD wallet, or only Bitcoin Core ?!
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August 05, 2015, 01:31:33 PM
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i am waiting from the answer from one of the two Eligius persons before i switch to coinbase wallet...

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August 05, 2015, 02:14:28 PM
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i am waiting from the answer from one of the two Eligius persons before i switch to coinbase wallet...

It's never recommended to mine to an address that you do not control personally.

That said, I do believe Coinbase is one of the few services that does properly handle generated payouts, so, technically you should be able to.  

But again, I do not recommend mining to any address/wallet you don't actually control, as in you have the private key(s).  Doesn't anyone remember MtGox?  Cry

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August 05, 2015, 03:20:22 PM
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i am waiting from the answer from one of the two Eligius persons before i switch to coinbase wallet...

It's never recommended to mine to an address that you do not control personally.

That said, I do believe Coinbase is one of the few services that does properly handle generated payouts, so, technically you should be able to.  

But again, I do not recommend mining to any address/wallet you don't actually control, as in you have the private key(s).  Doesn't anyone remember MtGox?  Cry
I'm sure everyone remembers that MTGox paid for Eligius' servers in order to get free transactions ...

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August 05, 2015, 03:56:45 PM
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i am waiting from the answer from one of the two Eligius persons before i switch to coinbase wallet...

It's never recommended to mine to an address that you do not control personally.

That said, I do believe Coinbase is one of the few services that does properly handle generated payouts, so, technically you should be able to.  

But again, I do not recommend mining to any address/wallet you don't actually control, as in you have the private key(s).  Doesn't anyone remember MtGox?  Cry
I'm sure everyone remembers that MTGox paid for Eligius' servers in order to get free transactions ...

Definitely not relevant to the conversation, but instead of just deleting the post I'll bite and point out that Eligius's servers were moved away from the hosting provided by MtGox very shortly after I took over the pool. (Edit: Yeah, wasn't long. Looks like the first new server went online 3/2013 and I took over the end of 10/2012.)

I know you're just trying your normal anti-Eligius trolling, but even for you I think it's funny that you say they "paid" for the servers to get "free" transactions.  I don't think the sum of potential transaction fees were ever enough to justify hosting costs, personally.  (Edit: Oh, and the funny thing is that they rarely even pushed free transactions anyway)

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August 05, 2015, 07:22:24 PM
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i am waiting from the answer from one of the two Eligius persons before i switch to coinbase wallet...

It's never recommended to mine to an address that you do not control personally.

That said, I do believe Coinbase is one of the few services that does properly handle generated payouts, so, technically you should be able to.  

But again, I do not recommend mining to any address/wallet you don't actually control, as in you have the private key(s).  Doesn't anyone remember MtGox?  Cry
I'm sure everyone remembers that MTGox paid for Eligius' servers in order to get free transactions ...

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August 05, 2015, 08:06:03 PM
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I'm sure everyone remembers that MTGox paid for Eligius' servers in order to get free transactions ...
Can you prove it ?

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August 05, 2015, 11:45:42 PM
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I'm sure everyone remembers that MTGox paid for Eligius' servers in order to get free transactions ...
Can you prove it ?
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