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[baddw]

Where can I see the pool % luck for time periods, like the last week or last month

if you click on block, it will show you luck on certain block


http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/blocks.php

Is there no easy way to see the total combined luck for a time period?

My windows monitoring app shows it (see my sig).  As of now Eligius is at:

10 blocks: 67.48%
12 hours: 31.29%
24 hours: 35.28%
7 days: 88.6%
30 days: 89.64%
90 days: 96.79%

M

I had NEVER seen luck fluctuating above 100% over 30 or 90 days. Have you seen it?
If it is pure statistics, this should be symmetrical, isn't it?

That's an interesting point.  I'm curious if there's a mathematical explanation for that.

M

There is a downward bias due to orphan blocks.  Long-term average should be around 97%-98%.  Remember, the longer the period, the more the luck converges to the "true" number.  It would have to be pretty extreme good luck to hit 100%+ for 30 or 90 days.

[Grix]

I had NEVER seen luck fluctuating above 100% over 30 or 90 days. Have you seen it?
If it is pure statistics, this should be symmetrical, isn't it?

That's an interesting point.  I'm curious if there's a mathematical explanation for that.

M

There is a downward bias due to orphan blocks.  Long-term average should be around 97%-98%.  Remember, the longer the period, the more the luck converges to the "true" number.  It would have to be pretty extreme good luck to hit 100%+ for 30 or 90 days.

Also I think the number of blocks found per time is bionomially distributed, which I don't think is a symmetrical curve. But maybe that is accounted for so that the luck figure is still symmetrical.

[mavericklm]

show me the orphan!!!!

[WayKewl]

Bump…
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1 returns "PAST" block info. Does anyone know if there is a call to extract current Pool Hashrate; current Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck as displayed on the main Eligius page.

[ici_lemmy]

Bump…
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1 returns "PAST" block info. Does anyone know if there is a call to extract current Pool Hashrate; current Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck as displayed on the main Eligius page.

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/instant.php/livedata.json

[WayKewl]

I'm importing into Excel. From what I'm learning Excel does not handle the "wrapper" for the direct JSON calls therefor any call asks "Do you want to open or save filename.json (nnn bytes) from eligius.st".
So, the PAST Blocks API from eligius.st works fine. http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1 seems to be an "HTTP" call to the JSON API which Excel can handle. For reference, all of the general queries at http://blockexplorer.com/q all work fine and return data in the format Excel can handle.

I'm struggling finding an HTTP/JSON call to gather eligius.st current Pool Hashrate; current Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck as displayed on the main Eligius page.  Seems the "format=csv&csvastext=1" is key but does not work with http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/instant.php/livedata.json.

Any talent out there know if eligius.st has and "HTTP" accessible JSON API call for the current Pool Hashrate; current Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck data?

thanks in advance...
Happy Holidays

[RealMalatesta]

I'm importing into Excel. From what I'm learning Excel does not handle the "wrapper" for the direct JSON calls therefor any call asks "Do you want to open or save filename.json (nnn bytes) from eligius.st".
So, the PAST Blocks API from eligius.st works fine. http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1 seems to be an "HTTP" call to the JSON API which Excel can handle. For reference, all of the general queries at http://blockexplorer.com/q all work fine and return data in the format Excel can handle.

I'm struggling finding an HTTP/JSON call to gather eligius.st current Pool Hashrate; current Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck as displayed on the main Eligius page.  Seems the "format=csv&csvastext=1" is key but does not work with http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/instant.php/livedata.json.

Any talent out there know if eligius.st has and "HTTP" accessible JSON API call for the current Pool Hashrate; current Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck data?

thanks in advance...
Happy Holidays

Have you checked this site:
http://ramblings.mcpher.com/Home/excelquirks/json/excel-json-conversion
?

[WayKewl]

Have you checked this site:
http://ramblings.mcpher.com/Home/excelquirks/json/excel-json-conversion
?

The desire is to use any unmodified Excel without the need for Macro's. Using all Excel Function()s and the Web Query Import. The process is intended to be automated so the call has to be direct as well as the returned output. No human in the middle.

It might help is I could attach the XLS to see that I trying to accomplish.
Are attachments allowed?

So here’s where I’m needing HELP!

The limited Excel Browser that is used to “bounce” the raw data to does not natively handle JSON calls directly. When called, the process is interrupted wanting to “save” the JSON file locally. HOWEVER… it DOES handle HTTP JSON calls as with:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1
which outputs:
luck,confirmations,blockhash,height,duration,age,roundstart,roundend,hashrate,...
36.825168438117,1,000000000000000007a3c7c6791d1a28241620035d4677fbe65c97853efa48a4,335277,...
And Excel handles fine.

[Edited] to add...
I just talk to my teenager... He said Dropbox...
So here's the Bitcoin_Mining.xlsx
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqz64t1b1qtumgu/Bitcoin_Mining.xlsx?dl=0

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/s7jbgc969hpwms4/Bitcoin_Mining.jpg
Mining Estimates Tab...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7hcha9lol7io18e/Bitcoin_Mining_Slush.jpg
And one of the Pool Tabs (Slush)...


To help shed light what I’m trying to accomplish in detail I’ve attached my Excel XLS.  

And probably more detail than you need (in case you find the XLS useful and want to use it):
It’s created using Office365 but all functions should work thru Excel 2010.
While I’m trying not to use any Macros, it will prompt you when loaded that it wants to use “External Information” in order to run the Blockchain and Pool Excel Web Query’s.
The XLS is sized to be best viewed with a screen resolution of 1600x900.
It’s built to require few manually entered data fields. There is an AutoImport Tab that is intended to be where all Excel Web Query data is placed. This tab is also where any data is tailored prior to being used on any of the other Tabs.
All Tabs EXCEPT the AutoImport Tab are locked to prevent overwriting so to modify the XLS. Password is “blank”. Be sure to relock it to protect yourself from overwriting the formulas used.
The Queries enqueue Excel for a few seconds while the queries are updating. Currently set to 5 and 10 min.
If you'd like to use it... just "clear content" in each of the BTC Payments on each of the Pool Tab's. It also allows some flexibility with changing the Pools if your desired Pool is not one if the 6 I've been using.

*Note... I've not finished working on the Web Queries. Tasks are to find better HTTP/JSON calls to only return what I need rather than screen scraping. Up until now my efforts have been with the "Excel" Tabs and formulas. PLEASE let me know if you find any errors so I can alter my copy.
[/End EDIT]

What I’m looking for is the real time current Pool Hashrate; Round Time(duration); and current Round Luck as displayed on the main Eligius page. The data from the query above is last block/round, not current round.
(My hope is to perfect my knowledge of using the Pool API calls and the many parameters available to be a bit more efficiently.)
Would anyone have the correct URL and parms for getting this from Eligius.st?

thanks in advance,

[WayKewl]

<snip>At any point in time, you simply need to know from the pool, the current 1diff share count submitted since the last found block to determine what the current "luck" would be if a block was found now.</snip>

My question is more about how to exploit the Eligius API using an HTTP capable JSON API, as direct JSON calls are a problem for vanilla Excel. Eligius seems to allow for HTTP/JSON calls as with the Last Blocks Found call below. And this HTTP/JSON works well with Excel.

When you go to the main landing page for Eligius, in the top right there are 3 variables I’m hoping to extract and utilize the raw values as published by Eligius.
Hashrate:   11,637.39 Th/s    Round Time:   00:30:53
Round Shares:   5368401920    Round Luck:   735%

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/api.php?cmd=getblocks&limit=1&format=csv&csvastext=1 is the “type” of call that works fine but it’s not the “livedata”.
Can anyone offer assistance with how to call "HTTP" accessible JSON API call from Eligius to gather the same 3 variables listed on main Eligius landing page. At a minimum, I need Eligius "current round time" and "current hashrate" to do the calculation. 

thanks!!!

[raskul]

just added some hashrate here.

hello.
what's with the payout queue? seems like my payout time is getting longer and longer!?

[Biffa]

just added some hashrate here.

hello.
what's with the payout queue? seems like my payout time is getting longer and longer!?

Hey mate, all the info is in here:

http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq-page/faq-3

If the queue gets too big, whizkid generally does a manual payout.

Mines a 13 block delay which I think is the longest I've ever seen it.

[Grix]

lol'd
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/9000.php

[raskul]

just added some hashrate here.

hello.
what's with the payout queue? seems like my payout time is getting longer and longer!?

Hey mate, all the info is in here:

http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq-page/faq-3

If the queue gets too big, whizkid generally does a manual payout.

Mines a 13 block delay which I think is the longest I've ever seen it.

cheers Biffa, I got round to finding it on my phone while the Mrs was lazing by the pool 
i'm now at 12 block delay... i'm considering just going back to mmpool if WK doesn't get that queue shortened soonish.

[baddw]

just added some hashrate here.

hello.
what's with the payout queue? seems like my payout time is getting longer and longer!?

Hey mate, all the info is in here:

http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq-page/faq-3

If the queue gets too big, whizkid generally does a manual payout.

Mines a 13 block delay which I think is the longest I've ever seen it.

cheers Biffa, I got round to finding it on my phone while the Mrs was lazing by the pool 
i'm now at 12 block delay... i'm considering just going back to mmpool if WK doesn't get that queue shortened soonish.

Your position in the queue won't be moved up at all if you stop mining at Eligius.

If you continue mining at Eligius, you will receive full payment whenever your spot in the queue does come up.  E.g. if you have already earned 0.5 BTC as of now, and you mine 0.25 BTC worth of shares between now and the time you receive payment, you will receive payment for 0.75 BTC at that time.  Not just the 0.5 BTC that is owed to you now.

Not that anybody cares if you come or go, or decide to alternate every 2 hours between Eligius and another pool.  Just letting you know how things work.

[BCwinning]

Anyone showing any income made on the last 3 blocks?
I haven't seen any increase in income and it doesn't look they were orphans.
Last 3 blocks my unpaid balance has been zero with no change.
I do have a balance of course

appears it fixed itself. Now showing unpaid balance as of last block once more.

[wizkid057]

Fixed some stats sync issues.  Pool is fine.  Stats are catching up. Happy new year!

[Biffa]

Fixed some stats sync issues.  Pool is fine.  Stats are catching up. Happy new year!

Thanks wizkid, seasons greetings to you too!

[mavericklm]

Happy New Year!!! to u too! and thank you!

[yakuza699]

Fixed some stats sync issues.  Pool is fine.  Stats are catching up. Happy new year!

Hi wizkid057 and Happy New Year! When can we expect to see http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/pushtxn.php alive again? I tried to download Luke's version of QT client. I re-indexed till 38 weeks and then I accidentally opened the normal core client. Now I have to re-index again to which I say a strong no I left Luke's version running for 16 hours to get only to 38 weeks I guess I can see http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/pushtxn.php faster than my qt re-indexed.

[wizkid057]

Fixed some stats sync issues.  Pool is fine.  Stats are catching up. Happy new year!

Hi wizkid057 and Happy New Year! When can we expect to see http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/pushtxn.php alive again? I tried to download Luke's version of QT client. I re-indexed till 38 weeks and then I accidentally opened the normal core client. Now I have to re-index again to which I say a strong no I left Luke's version running for 16 hours to get only to 38 weeks I guess I can see http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/pushtxn.php faster than my qt re-indexed.

Until I can be sure that spam is being filtered appropriately on that end it will remain disabled.  Unfortunately people were abusing the setup by trying to include transactions that contained massive amounts of arbitrary data (spam) with relatively large fees (couple of USD equiv) to get the web server bitcoind to accept them.  Fortunately I was cable to catch these before they were mined, but since the bitcoind accepted them I'm going to need to wait until we get our more updated spam filters in place for this setup before it is enabled again.