Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

[Trofo]

Freaking double standards! From all I've know it's only an offside of any part of that can score a legitimate goal is involved, does a goal stands if a player scores with his elbow ??! The shit gets rather ridiculous by the day when there is no clearcut rule as a guideline or are the rules just too complicated for only certain cases ? I've fully supported that offside should be called when measurable, even if it's by a whisker, but then this is totally wrong!

Is it confirmed it was given for the elbow? I did not see it live and when I saw this picture I immediately thought the line was drawn based on his head position which although very marginal would be according to the rules. His hand looks like good half of a meter in the offside.

You are right, only parts of the body which are allowed to touch the ball are taken into consideration for the offside call.

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[Harkorede]

Freaking double standards! From all I've know it's only an offside of any part of that can score a legitimate goal is involved, does a goal stands if a player scores with his elbow ??! The shit gets rather ridiculous by the day when there is no clearcut rule as a guideline or are the rules just too complicated for only certain cases ? I've fully supported that offside should be called when measurable, even if it's by a whisker, but then this is totally wrong!

Is it confirmed it was given for the elbow? I did not see it live and when I saw this picture I immediately thought the line was drawn based on his head position which although very marginal would be according to the rules. His hand looks like good half of a meter in the offside.

You are right, only parts of the body which are allowed to touch the ball are taken into consideration for the offside call.

Taking just a glance at the picture, it is very evident that the defenders body is well ahead of Bamford's head and the line wasn't even drawn towards his head... Look closely you'll see a horizontal line drawn from what looks like his elbow, perhaps that was his arm, but that definitely was not his armpit 🤷🏾‍♂️

[hilariousetc]

Abysmal results from Leeds yet again, I didn't watch the game live, but the statistics I'm wondering how they had over 65 percent of the ball possession and still lost by 4 goals.

The score line didn't represent the game really. I thought Leeds were the better team and had far more possession and attacks. Palace just got lucky on their attempts and there were two own goals, one of them was bizarre. As others have said, the Leeds equaliser should have never been disallowed either. No idea what VAR is playing at. Not a single Palace player protested and every commentator and pundit seemed to disagree with it. Even the ex ref they had as a consultant seemed to disagree with it.

Freaking double standards! From all I've know it's only an offside of any part of that can score a legitimate goal is involved, does a goal stands if a player scores with his elbow ??! The shit gets rather ridiculous by the day when there is no clearcut rule as a guideline or are the rules just too complicated for only certain cases ? I've fully supported that offside should be called when measurable, even if it's by a whisker, but then this is totally wrong!

Is it confirmed it was given for the elbow? I did not see it live and when I saw this picture I immediately thought the line was drawn based on his head position which although very marginal would be according to the rules. His hand looks like good half of a meter in the offside.

You are right, only parts of the body which are allowed to touch the ball are taken into consideration for the offside call.

The vertical lines they draw on are the parts of the body that are claimed to be offside, but you're right it does look like the elbow which means it shouldn't be offside. Also, if they had a camera straight down the line or one from above I reckon someone would have been playing his elbow onside anyway and unless you have those sorts of angles you can never be sure on calls like this as bodyparts are obscuring the line. I think Bamford has had 3 or 4 goals disallowed now. I'd rather them just get rid of VAR at this point or at the very least they should only be checking things if the ref or opposing team requests it. Checking every goal and going looking for something is just silly an delaying the game even more.

[tokeweed]

Abysmal results from Leeds yet again, I didn't watch the game live, but the statistics I'm wondering how they had over 65 percent of the ball possession and still lost by 4 goals.

I didn't watch the whole game either, i honestly couldn't...had to turn off the stream after Bamford's 1st goal was disallowed for offside.
VAR is hitting new lows this year, it's just fucking distasteful, turning this game into a souless mess.

This was ruled OFFSIDE, his feet and body are onside but elbow is offside...are you kidding me?



Some other outraged fellas:
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Yup.  Souless is the perfect word.  As a fan, I was against the whole thing the moment I heard about it.  They're taking away the human factor away from the game.

I kinda expected this with Leeds anyway.  Player fatigue is prolly setting in.

[hilariousetc]

Pretty close for the yellow cap this week. I'm only 0.5 points behind the current leader and if my prediction of 2-0 comes in I'll probably take it. Villa just had a goal disallowed within the first minute as well. Took VAR 4 minutes to decide that it was offside. They really need to stop going looking for reasons to disallow goals as nearly 5 minutes to decide to cancel a goal that nobody was seemingly protesting is ridiculous.

[Harkorede]

Aston Villa eventually got a deserving  goal, they should have been about 2 or 3 goals up already, Arsenal have had their own fair chances as well , imo, Aston Villa deserves at least a point. Arsenal having been pressing and making more goal threats in the 2nd half. Only 2 user had Aston Villa to win in the pool, though.

EDIT: LOL! Aston Villa are 3 goals up, 2 goals within a very short time! That's surely 3 points in the bag..

[Indymoney]

We have shocking result in field and more shocking in pool as well just 2 members with 1.5 points and all other going with 0 points mean no changes at top and @hilariousetc's hard work need some more effort from him for his first yellow cap of this season I am missing badly and going down hopefully have comeback after this break.

[leea-1334]

Congrats for the yellow cap yaty! I was there at the top before the two last games so I can say thank you very much to City and Arsenal for doing what they are expected to do (and what I did not think would happen hehe),,, and yes on VAR goal. If neither team is protesting can we just allow it please? Technology is frustrating supposed to help not harm.

[swogerino]

I saw this week results in general for Premier League and it is a week with quite a few surprises.Arsenal losing to Aston Villa for me being the biggest surprise of this week.I also didn’t expect Everton to lose to Manchester United either.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Congrats for the yellow cap yaty! I was there at the top before the two last games so I can say thank you very much to City and Arsenal for doing what they are expected to do (and what I did not think would happen hehe),,, and yes on VAR goal. If neither team is protesting can we just allow it please? Technology is frustrating supposed to help not harm.

VAR is good technology, it’s just being used by incompetent people. At times I think I would he better at getting the correct decisions on VAR than the officials in charge of it.

[slaman29]

I saw this week results in general for Premier League and it is a week with quite a few surprises.Arsenal losing to Aston Villa for me being the biggest surprise of this week.I also didn’t expect Everton to lose to Manchester United either.

Manchester United were the favorites to win though, and you know OGS team, they need to lose badly (which they did to Istanbul and Arsenal) to bounce back like this, which they did.

And Villa already beat Liverpool, so why not Arsenal right? Same style of attacking football, I think Villa found the recipe to counter and score on these teams!

[LTU_btc]

VAR is good technology, it’s just being used by incompetent people. At times I think I would he better at getting the correct decisions on VAR than the officials in charge of it.

Agree about it. VAR is great thing if it's used properly. I don't know what's wrong with EPL referees  that they are still making a lot of mistakes even with VAR. I haven't noticed such thing in other big leagues - VAR helps to referees a lot there and prevented them from making many bad calls.

[hilariousetc]

Aston Villa eventually got a deserving  goal, they should have been about 2 or 3 goals up already, Arsenal have had their own fair chances as well , imo, Aston Villa deserves at least a point. Arsenal having been pressing and making more goal threats in the 2nd half. Only 2 user had Aston Villa to win in the pool, though.

EDIT: LOL! Aston Villa are 3 goals up, 2 goals within a very short time! That's surely 3 points in the bag..

Arsenal got demolished. Not surprising only two people went for the away win. At least they didn't really effect my position at the table. Up 15 places this round and only 17.5 points behind first place. Considering I was dead bottom 2 or 3 rounds ago it shows you you shouldn't worry too much about your current position. I'm sure I'll be down another 15 places next round  .

Congrats for the yellow cap yaty! I was there at the top before the two last games so I can say thank you very much to City and Arsenal for doing what they are expected to do (and what I did not think would happen hehe),,, and yes on VAR goal. If neither team is protesting can we just allow it please? Technology is frustrating supposed to help not harm.

VAR is good technology, it’s just being used by incompetent people. At times I think I would he better at getting the correct decisions on VAR than the officials in charge of it.

They need to clarify the rules more or even change them. It was meant to be for clear and obvious errors and it should be used when called upon, not check every goal to try find something. It's delaying the game too much when players have to wait for a pointless VAR check to be over before they can kick off again. It's taking the fun out of players celebrating as well as half of the time they're expecting a VAR decision. I'm sure they will do something about it at the end of the season. Far too many legit goals are getting ruled out now like the Leeds one and countless others.

[casperBGD]

VAR is good technology, it’s just being used by incompetent people. At times I think I would he better at getting the correct decisions on VAR than the officials in charge of it.

Agree about it. VAR is great thing if it's used properly. I don't know what's wrong with EPL referees  that they are still making a lot of mistakes even with VAR. I haven't noticed such thing in other big leagues - VAR helps to referees a lot there and prevented them from making many bad calls.

it is just a beginning, and that is why there is so many wrong calls and decisions, or wrong from my point of view, maybe those decisions are right after all
nevertheless, VAR technology will be better deployed with each new season, and will be good addition to football referees at the end, that is certain

[big_daddy]

Congrats @yatty89, you got the Yellow Cap this week
The situation after the Round 8:

YELLOW CAPS 2020/2021

|	USER	|	N° OF CAPS	|	MAX POINTS IN ONE ROUND	|
|	jeremypwr	|	1	|	16,5	|
|	fortebet	|	1	|	15	|
|	Sojourner	|	1	|	15	|
|	yatty89	|	1	|	14,5	|
|	arallmuus	|	1	|	13	|
|	webtricks	|	1	|	13	|
|	Joca97	|	1	|	12.5	|
|	rdbase	|	1	|	11.5	|
|	...	|	...	|	...	|

[tokeweed]

Congrats for the yellow cap yaty! I was there at the top before the two last games so I can say thank you very much to City and Arsenal for doing what they are expected to do (and what I did not think would happen hehe),,, and yes on VAR goal. If neither team is protesting can we just allow it please? Technology is frustrating supposed to help not harm.

VAR is good technology, it’s just being used by incompetent people. At times I think I would he better at getting the correct decisions on VAR than the officials in charge of it.

They need to clarify the rules more or even change them. It was meant to be for clear and obvious errors and it should be used when called upon, not check every goal to try find something. It's delaying the game too much when players have to wait for a pointless VAR check to be over before they can kick off again. It's taking the fun out of players celebrating as well as half of the time they're expecting a VAR decision. I'm sure they will do something about it at the end of the season. Far too many legit goals are getting ruled out now like the Leeds one and countless others.

I totally agree, esp with delaying the game too much.  And it should be used for the most important of decisions like match result changing ones.. if a foul was really made in the box, a hand ball in the box, etc..  Really close offsides I can live with.

[Trofo]

Aston Villa eventually got a deserving  goal, they should have been about 2 or 3 goals up already, Arsenal have had their own fair chances as well , imo, Aston Villa deserves at least a point. Arsenal having been pressing and making more goal threats in the 2nd half. Only 2 user had Aston Villa to win in the pool, though.

EDIT: LOL! Aston Villa are 3 goals up, 2 goals within a very short time! That's surely 3 points in the bag..

Arsenal got demolished. Not surprising only two people went for the away win. At least they didn't really effect my position at the table. Up 15 places this round and only 17.5 points behind first place. Considering I was dead bottom 2 or 3 rounds ago it shows you you shouldn't worry too much about your current position. I'm sure I'll be down another 15 places next round  .

Watched the game and Arsenal was really bad yesterday. They never truly got going, sort of like their performances away from home but this time it was on their home turf. They had few chances when they were 1:0 down and maybe they could have turned it around if they managed to score one of them. In the end there was just way to many uninspired players on the pitch for Arsenal.

Only one who looked good to me was Ceballos, after he entered in the half time break and Bellerin. You can't play on top level like that.

At least Real got trashed 4:1 at about the same time so newspapers out of UK took them apart rather then Arsenal

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I’m 17th at the moment out of 48, not great but I started the season so badly. I’ve had so many 1.5 points (close scores). I only have a handful of 3 points (exact scores). I keep missing out by 1 goal or something, very frustrating.

Still, I’ll keep going & I fancy my chances to get a paid spot at the end of the season (top 10).

[Harkorede]

I finished 9th place for the week and I'm 9th on the overall leaderboard as well, tied points with Buyawtress (I guess).

It's another week on the on sideline for club sides football, I foresee a boring weekend 

[slaman29]

9th place, sounds so far away but at least I'm not any longer in the bottom table, just in the bottom half now at 29th place;) But still, improving every week and if you see distance from me to 10th place is only 9 points, which is 10.5 points away from 1st place. 20 points to the top, but one good yellow cap week and that can all be changed. Tough, so tough!