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Author Topic: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016]  (Read 131291 times)
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June 12, 2014, 09:09:52 AM
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nothing wrong with comparing mining calculators, if 2 calculators have the same input they should provide same output, if not, one of them is wrong.
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They will all be wrong since it is a future guestimate.

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268127  05/11/2013     390,928,787.638   46.02%  
270143  17/11/2013     510,929,738.016   30.70% 
272159  29/11/2013     609,482,679.888   19.29% 
274175  10/12/2013     707,408,283.051   16.07% 
276191  21/12/2013     908,350,862.437   28.41% 
278207  02/01/2014   1,180,923,195.258   30.01% 
280223  13/01/2014   1,418,481,395.262   20.12% 
282239  24/01/2014   1,789,546,951.053   26.16% 
284255  05/02/2014   2,193,847,870.174   22.59% 
286271  17/02/2014   2,621,404,453.064   19.49% 
288287  28/02/2014   3,129,573,174.522   19.39% 
290303  13/03/2014   3,815,723,798.814   21.92% 
292319  24/03/2014   4,250,217,919.869   11.39% 
294335  05/04/2014   5,006,860,589.205   17.80% 
296351  17/04/2014   6,119,726,089.128   22.23% 
298367  29/04/2014   6,978,842,649.592   14.04% 
300383  12/05/2014   8,000,872,135.968   14.64% 
302399  24/05/2014   8,853,416,309.127   10.66% 
304415  05/06/2014  10,455,720,138.484   18.10% 
305136  10/06/2014  11,756,551,916.904   12.44% 
Yeah there's no obvious pattern there Smiley

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June 12, 2014, 11:22:56 AM
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Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+  Huh

If Avalon is B+ then everyone else is A+. Avalon is the main reason all opensource miner projects went down the toilet. How can they be trusted, ever?
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June 12, 2014, 11:30:34 AM
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Best just give all the manufacturers except for Bitmaintech a Z rating Dogie and close the thread.

End your pain....
Bitmaintech isn't the only company that delivers from stock and they also had some problems.


Ok give them a Z too. End the misery.

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June 12, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
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Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+  Huh

If Avalon is B+ then everyone else is A+. Avalon is the main reason all opensource miner projects went down the toilet. How can they be trusted, ever?

You sir are correct. Millions lost. Many a great designer ruined.

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June 12, 2014, 05:18:12 PM
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Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+  Huh

If Avalon is B+ then everyone else is A+. Avalon is the main reason all opensource miner projects went down the toilet. How can they be trusted, ever?

+1  Avalon is totally overrated but Dogie likes those rats. He has his ''reasons''...
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June 12, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
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You mean , review based "reasons"?

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June 12, 2014, 10:14:23 PM
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So tldr, all companies to Z next cycle.

Anyway. I'll put up Avalon again next cycle. That might mean they get removed entirely or moved to a footnote for not being active.

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June 12, 2014, 11:11:57 PM
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They still sell...I think the best move is rate them how they deserve to be.  The goal is help people with hardware decisions?  They should see a bad rating and know those guys are horrible to do business with regardless if they can't scam on these boards anymore.
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June 12, 2014, 11:21:09 PM
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Please do not take my criticism the wrong way...I love that you have created this to help people.  I also think that it is great for hardware vendors to send you stuff for reviews, but I just feel that B+ is just out of line is all  Undecided
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June 12, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
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but I just feel that B+ is just out of line is all  Undecided

This... imo credibility in general takes a hit with something like this..

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June 13, 2014, 12:02:19 AM
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They still sell...I think the best move is rate them how they deserve to be.  The goal is help people with hardware decisions?  They should see a bad rating and know those guys are horrible to do business with regardless if they can't scam on these boards anymore.

Please do not take my criticism the wrong way...I love that you have created this to help people.  I also think that it is great for hardware vendors to send you stuff for reviews, but I just feel that B+ is just out of line is all  Undecided

This... imo credibility in general takes a hit with something like this..

For the record, reviews has absolutely no standing on this trustworthiness guide, at all. In fact if you trace back the dates of the Avalon review, I subsequently denied their promotion and then froze their standing for being inactive in the western markets. They do not sell here, and so are not active.

There will always be a split of opinion on Avalon, and its not something I can solve. Bad things happened, everyone lost out. That company no longer exists, that team no longer exists. For the last 7-8 months they've done nothing but sell in hand hardware, zero preorders, zero problems with warranties, RMAs, delays etc. I can't penalise a company that

1) is not active in the market the guide is regarding
2) no longer exists
3) has done nothing but good things for a time period far greater than the guide is designed to reflect.

And again for the record, I lost more than 40x from the Avalon problems then I gained from any review. Fuck it, I wouldn't be poor if B2 had arrived on time, but it didn't. I am not biased in any way.

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June 13, 2014, 09:36:39 AM
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That company no longer exists, that team no longer exists. For the last 7-8 months they've done nothing but sell in hand hardware, zero preorders, zero problems with warranties, RMAs, delays etc.

I've lost you on that one. What do you mean that company no longer exists? If that's so, why don't you remove them from your list?

Don't they sell products under the same name? They do, and that name should get what it deserved, not the B+ rating.
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June 13, 2014, 02:03:30 PM
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That company no longer exists, that team no longer exists. For the last 7-8 months they've done nothing but sell in hand hardware, zero preorders, zero problems with warranties, RMAs, delays etc.

I've lost you on that one. What do you mean that company no longer exists? If that's so, why don't you remove them from your list?

Don't they sell products under the same name? They do, and that name should get what it deserved, not the B+ rating.

The company people want to chase with torches and pitchforks was run by Yifu. He hasn't been there for a year, nor the money. There are just engineers there, the people who built the first ASIC. Avalon today as well doesn't exist, they sell via a different company and not to the western markets.

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June 13, 2014, 03:41:17 PM
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this is so fucked, useless thread and this guy is rude
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June 13, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
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this is so fucked, useless thread and this guy is rude

I'm doing my best, everyone has differing opinions.


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June 13, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
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this is so fucked, useless thread and this guy is rude

I'm doing my best, everyone has differing opinions.



Just clarify the status on Avalon. If they don't exist remove them. If this new entity with the good people remains but doesn't sell product then it doesn't really matter does it for your ratings. As for the RUDE SOB who keeps trolling let em rot.

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June 16, 2014, 11:22:57 AM
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Hey dogie, I like your rating system, just never had a reason to comment in this thread though.

I was wondering did you decide to only include SHA asics? I would love to see ratings for Scrypt asic companies as well. You have Lightningasic on there, but there is GAW, Zeus, Hashra, Alpha-t etc.

Of which none of them are shipping. They will be added if/when they become active.

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June 18, 2014, 12:40:39 PM
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Still absolutely nothing from BlackArrow. No mails, no miners, no refunds, no answers, no nothing.
These good for nothing crooks screwed over all of us and give absolutely no information on what's going on ..

I'm not sure why I'm expecting a reply on this scam really ...
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June 18, 2014, 01:46:59 PM
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Still absolutely nothing from BlackArrow. No mails, no miners, no refunds, no answers, no nothing.
These good for nothing crooks screwed over all of us and give absolutely no information on what's going on ..

I'm not sure why I'm expecting a reply on this scam really ...

Yup, stall tactics and long confidence tricks like you read and hear about.  Almost Butterfly Labs level of incompetence and negligence...

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June 18, 2014, 08:54:22 PM
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Lightning ASIC promoted to A.

I did look at the rating of Lightningasic on your page .... which shows a A rating ... I would think of such an A rating as a good customer service, a good packaging of products and a refund policy ....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615985.msg7050270#msg7050270

I'm not sure if that rating represents the reality ... to be honest ...
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