[ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision

[hv_]

who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

Pump and dump scamcoin BSV has been doing pretty good on a price performance level in recent times, if we take a 3 month view....

Good luck gambling your assets on that shit.  You might get lucky, if those scamming nutjobs are ready, willing and able to pump more capital into that shady-ass shenanigans crap.

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin, but I understand that wanna get rich folks don't mind gambling on crap and don't have enough patience or even understanding about what the fuck bitcoin is in order to invest in  actual bitcoin rather than smoke and mirrors that may or may not end up paying off in terms of having any kind of meaningful and lasting pump potential that allows you to get in and out before its inevitable trip to zero.. but that trip to zero could be 10 years away, so invest the fuck into that crap if you are in the land of wishfulness that might end up paying off.

The only idiots telling ppl about gambeling, speculation and hodle are you guys.

Bitcoin is FIRST a immutable data ledger, the only one that worked, cause it needed an incentive (read the refs from the White Paper)

This incentive got perverted by the troll Level usecase - hodl.

Satoshi Vision is not about hodl, but about the data ledger and its commodity like value.


The bad message for hodl trolls is: we cannot fix u - caus hodl Virus eats ur tiny (small blocked) Brains - nothing left

[hv_]

who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,

Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

Yes... case in point, above = wishful thinking.

I don't really feel inclined to argue with you about your various bullshit including your strong presumption that something is broken in regards to bitcoin's current scaling dynamic that includes segregated witness and the building upon various segregated witness solutions.  I consider the bcasher arguments to be bunk in that regard...

But perhaps setting apart your possible blindspot (subconscious perhaps?) desire to pump your bags, let's just assume for the sake of argument that segregated witness is flawed.. which is a BIG ASS assumption that is the wet dream of basher nutjobs, but let's merely attempt to focus, for the sake of argument, on network effects.

Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer?  You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV?  You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv? 

I kind of already know your answer is going to be to assert that they are going to just move over to bcash sv, and surely, from my thinking, just to preemptively strike your anticipated bullshit response, your anticipated bullshit response is going to be filled with some decently large ass assumptions that have to be built upon and built upon and built upon in order for your fantasy of bitcoin network effects moving over to bcash to be even close to being a feasible proposal (beyond pure fantasy).  Good luck bcash svers with the fantasies built on a large as house of cards that is constructed with assumption, after assumption after assumption, each of which must stand before the fantasy of jbreher and other bcashers is even close to being feasible, even if the other part of the most bitcoin of the bitcoins were to be true beyond a lovely marketing expression that tries to take bcash out of its name.   

Again: BTC Network effect is only about hodl and scam newbees to buy and hodl

Satosh is about the global data ledger - that solves many problems.

Compete - just hate will lead u nowhere

[ðºÞæ]

who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

BSV Whitepaper:

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

SV Client (official website):

https://bitcoinsv.io

Desktop wallets:

https://electrumsv.io/

https://guarda.co/

https://www.exodus.io/

https://atomicwallet.io/

https://hodler.tech/

Web Wallets:

https://guarda.co/

https://www.moneybutton.com

https://wallet.ipayyou.io/

Mobile Wallets:

https://www.coinomi.com/en/

https://centbee.com/

https://handcash.io/

https://www.cashpay.solutions/

https://guarda.co/

https://edge.app/

https://bitpie.com/

https://hodler.tech/

http://pixelwallet.icu/

https://simply.cash/

https://freewallet.org

Paper wallet generator:

https://www.bitaddress.org/

Exchanges/purchase BSV:

https://buybsv.com/

https://www.poloniex.com/

https://coinsquare.com

https://robinhood.com/

https://www.bcbitcoin.co.uk/

https://www.btcmarkets.net/

https://www.floatsv.com/

https://thewhitecompanyus.com/

https://bitvavo.com/en/bitcoin-sv

https://www.litebit.eu/en/buy/bitcoin-sv

https://bittrex.com/

https://wavesplatform.com/products-wallet

https://www.bitcoin.de/en/bsveur/market

Payment Gateways for BSV:

https://coinify.com/

https://coingate.com/

https://atomicpay.io/global/en

https://gourl.io/

https://www.moneybutton.com

https://github.com/mboyd1/bitcoin-sv-payments-for-woocommerce

Currency Exchangers for BSV:

https://simpleswap.io/

https://stealthex.io/

https://guarda.co/exchange

https://www.coinzark.com/

https://coinswap.keys4coins.com/

https://coinswitch.co/

https://godex.io/

https://onepagex.com/

https://changelly.com/

BSV Block Explorers:

https://satoshi.io

https://bchsvexplorer.com/

https://hugeblock.info/

https://www.bitcoinsvexplorer.com/

https://svblox.com/

https://bsvexplorer.io/

https://whatsonchain.com/

https://bsvexplorer.info/#/

BSV wallet/Social Media Apps:

https://www.yours.org/

https://sv.memo.cash/

https://en.literatus.org/

https://www.hivr.cash/

https://metatalk.io/

MetaNet Network:

https://metanet.icu/

https://craigwright.net/

https://metanet.land/

BSV Network Data:

https://www.svcharts.com/

https://sv.coin.dance/

https://bitcoinblocks.live/

BSV token services:

https://tokenized.cash/

http://bitcointoken.com/

https://github.com/bitcoin-asset/bitcoinassetjs

UTXO database/BSV Cloud Wallet API:

https://www.bitindex.network/

Order Anything with BSV:

https://cryptonize.it/

Shop with BSV:

https://gifter.cash/shop/

https://www.bsvdevs.com/shop/

https://cryptartica.com/shop

https://www.duckcreation.com/

https://zeroconfs.com/

Freelance Marketplace for BSV:

https://fivebucks.com/

Payment Gateway Button for BSV:

https://www.moneybutton.com

Video Streaming Platform built on BSV:

https://streamanity.com/

BSV Gambling:

https://blockchain.poker

https://www.phun.io/

https://playbitcoin.cash/

Services

https://tonicpow.com/

https://coin2speech.com/

https://pedlr.app/ (Buy Load Philippinies)

https://sporestack.com/ (Private Hosting)

https://www.audiob.app/

Access/upload content on the BSV chain:

https://www.agora.icu/

https://bottle.bitdb.network/

https://www.bitcoinfiles.org/

https://bico.media/

https://bitsent.net/link.html

https://weathersv.app/find

https://immortalsv.com/

https://etched.page/

https://poster.cash/

https://bitstagram.bitdb.network/

https://bterm.network/

https://bitok.live/

https://cryptograffiti.info/

https://www.easysign.io/

https://metalens.allaboard.cash/

https://trends.cash/

https://oyo.cash/

https://www.bitpaste.app/#/

https://www.pagereturn.com/

https://pageshot.bitcoinsv.si/

Create MoneyButton Landing pages/invoices:

https://button.bitdb.network/

BSV Market Data:

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin-sv

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin%20sv/

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-sv/

BitcoinSV Discord:

https://discord.gg/xNWbNKE

BSV Faucet:

https://faucet.allaboard.cash/

Testnet Faucet for BSV:

https://bitcoincloud.net/faucet/

BSV Resources:

https://www.mattercloud.net/

https://www.bsvdevs.com/index.php

https://bsvlinks.com/

https://bsv101.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoWA4QI_uEMYV2WXbLbDVNQ (BSV Channel)

Market Discussion:

/r/bsvmarkets


Its not all as daily new projects appear, like https://www.cityonchain.com/   or    http://legallychained.com/news/

[hv_]

who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

The present state of BSV is that Craig's evidence that he might have been Satoshi (or at least 1/2 of Satoshi) has been thoroughly ridiculed in and out of court, forcing Craig's laywers to withdrawal the bulk of it, as it appears it was forged by Craig.

Let's be honest: As a fork of a fork that is attempting to emulate an early, antiquated version of the Bitcoin protocol, BSV doesn't have the technical merits to stand on its own legs, which is why Craig is making such a to-do about being Satoshi.

One needn't look any further than BSV's price action in response to the whole copyright filing fake news job by Coingeek to see that most of BSV's market cap rests on the fallacy that Wright is Satoshi.

From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

At least your rehashing this tired garbage for the umpteenth time in the correct thread.

Your life must be easy if you can correlate some fiat price to a prejudge / proof  - too trolly


 
 

[alevlaslo]

why the capitalisation dipped by 2 times compared to bnb? previously were the same

  https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1150953526090067968?s=20

[jbreher]

who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,

Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer?  

Of course. Network effect is a real attractor. But it is not an unassailable prohibitive barrier. If BTC returns to a state of severely compromised usefulness due to the centrally-planned production quota upon tx rate, this provides a force that acts in opposition to the network effect. Will it be a large enough force to overcome that of the network effect? I think it likely, though I admit it is unknowable in any a priori sense. Any way, reasonable people can argue either side of that hypothesis.

You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV?  

Don't be silly, silly. I make no argument that such would be an easy fait accompli. But if BTC returns to a state of uselessness, then what is the alternative? When the pain of trying to stay on BTC exceeds the pain of adopting BSV, rational people would move to BSV.

You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv?

Your characterization as 'scam coin' belies your inability to think rationally through this matter. Unless of course, you can justify your characterization of the SV coin and blockchain as some sort of scam - a position I have never seen articulated in any intellectually honest manner.

[hv_]

To enable and foster global trade with cheap but safe use of the open blockchain concept, only proven to work by Bitcoin, we need an absolute stable reliable scalable protocol and system for that bootstrapping

We see it coming

https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1152176762287284225

Good news for good use

Except speculation

[alevlaslo]

1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown

[hv_]

1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown

'The coin' is actually BitCoin as it was supposed to be and on purpose.

It is a great luck that big guys with decent mind set support it AS IS.

No Segshit

No CTor

No LN

No RBF

No DSV

No Checkpoints

No crap injected by dev middle men


I like that

[alevlaslo]

the lack of negativity is only a good thing 

[hv_]

the lack of negativity is only a good thing  

As much as the lack of 'protocol features' where applications will do all the fun on a stable backbone

[ðºÞæ]

Reality check,  1 BSV = 1 BSV

[jbreher]

I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

[jbreher]

I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization.

I'll refer to that sentence as A.

As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block.

I'll refer to that sentence as B.

Claiming both A and B is logically inconsistent.

BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Well, on the blocksize basis alone, I'd need to agree. However, there are other characteristics that distinguish these two chains.

Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

[hv_]

I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization.

I'll refer to that sentence as A.

As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block.

I'll refer to that sentence as B.

Claiming both A and B is logically inconsistent.

BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Well, on the blocksize basis alone, I'd need to agree. However, there are other characteristics that distinguish these two chains.

Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

I always enjoy reading my fav bear's arguments being on point as well as in such an eloquent English only mother lang might be able to.

 

[Bitcoin SV]

Thanks to all who supporting us. Ahead we have very big plans for scaling. The project is successfully developing and gaining community. BSV - is a future. Right choice. Original Bitcoin. Satoshi Vision

[hv_]

Thanks to all who supporting us. Ahead we have very big plans for scaling. The project is successfully developing and gaining community. BSV - is a future. Right choice. Original Bitcoin. Satoshi Vision

Yeah, we try. But so many good news posts getting deleted- i wonder why?

But Bitcoin is totally about PoW, so folks need to fetch stuff from different places by own work,
Bitcoin and Satoshi do not owe anyone more. Things are all out for anyone to analyze and make up own mind and decisions.

[ðºÞæ]

Deleting posts is "Proof of Work"
Someone is working to delete the posts, another BitCoiner.

[Bitcoin SV]

Bitcoin and Satoshi are no longer monopolists at cryptocurrencies. Monopolism - is not good for crypto ecosystem
BSV - is necessary part of anti-monopolism and decentralization

so many good news posts getting deleted- i wonder why?

Possible by mistake or maybe these posts was quoting trolling.

Nevertheless, trolling from nutildah and other trolls - is helps to promoting BSV too

[hv_]

Some nice vids about Adam Smith freedom of Society

https://youtu.be/e3w98cTDwWQ

And freedom of use in BSV

https://youtu.be/LygbBOznCfQ