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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
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November 21, 2018, 02:06:12 PM
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What made you think of this? Is it because you learn that those FUD's are really not true? You see you should not trust and believe anybody here. And I agree with you OP. You should hold for now and maybe if you still have some good extra money then buy out more bitcoin now. This is the best time to buy crypto where market is down. Mind you it will comeback but it take some time to recover.
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November 21, 2018, 02:08:46 PM
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At last there is a real crypto enthusiast. Smiley

Your intention is right the crypto currencies are found to spend or transact between the two users without much burden and any third parties support.Don't worry the price won't go to $1 when the time comes you are going to spend it so just chillout and enjoy the red days.

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Seeing someone recognize the true potential of crypto is a good thing and not just for investment vehicle only or rich quick scheme.  Smiley
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November 21, 2018, 02:23:54 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Much appreciated, that's a wonderful plan mate If you have made intentions about not selling coins for at least 2 years. I will say it is a great work now the situation is very worse and not sure where it will stop, Sometimes you need to take the risk and invest. I suggest you plan for buying coins at cheap prices and sell once the value Increases, If the market recover's then you can sell for a good price.









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November 21, 2018, 02:42:47 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

As much as I agree with your sentiments regarding the flaws of the fiat banking system, keeping all your funds in BTC or other crypto is a bad idea. You say you don't care if the price goes to 1 cent. If all your money is in BTC, I'd bet you would care quite a lot if you lost >99.999% of your net worth. Regardless of how "real" your 1 cent is, that's not going to pay your rent or buy your food.


it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs.

Again, as much as I would like this to be the case, it simply isn't at the moment and won't be any time soon. As much as I would like to only use crypto, we have to use fiat for bills, food, gas, etc. Keeping a healthy exposure to crypto and various fiat investments is necessary for a secure future.
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November 21, 2018, 02:50:25 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Indeed, this's the main purpose of creating cryptocurrencies and that we are always should remember this.

Obviously there is manipulation by some parties, people to create a destabilization in faith cryptocurrencies. It is our duty not to give them success in this endeavor.

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November 21, 2018, 02:51:32 PM
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Sell when price rises.  Buy when price drops.  Most people don't do this so they lose, lose, and lose again.

That is the secret to wealth.  Your welcome, carry on.

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November 21, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
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well good for you but i don't think you are doing the right thing by having "ALL" your savings in bitcoin. as long as humans were making investment, they were advised to diversify and also to invest what they can afford to lose not all their savings.
of course your strategy depends on your lifestyle but for an average person, specially the bread winner of the family doing something like that is reckless in my opinion. don't get me wrong i strongly believe in bitcoin's future and i have a large stake in it but i still keep fiat and also other assets as a safety net.

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November 21, 2018, 02:59:37 PM
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That's the mentality we need to have now, we are in this until the end, bitcoin really should not have an arbitrary value, unfortunately for the people who invested when it was in ATH, nothing can ensure that it recovers that value, so bitcoin is worth $1 will still be possible to use it for its purpose.
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November 21, 2018, 03:14:12 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
your trust is very true, and it will produce maximum results in the future, this is not the end of everything from a crypto struggle
I support your decision

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
your trust is very true, and it will produce maximum results in the future, this is not the end of everything from a crypto struggle
I support your decision

I can say this is rarely good headline, most of us should support and follow this guy example. Holding until we are able to use it directly for everything, that should be the goal for all of us who support crypto currencies. People shouldn't worry about this drop and to panic now when prices are going down, this is just temporary, crypto is here to stay and people should have some safe place for keeping crypto, at least some of it, and to hold it for future, have fun with the rest but always have something in saving and I agree with op that's better to save crypto than fiat in banks.

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November 21, 2018, 04:09:07 PM
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You're ahead of the game but not everyone's playing yet which is the main problem.

Cryptocurrency's future ultimately depends on likeminded people interested in using it. Decentralization is reliant on enough people wanting it to happen and it will not happen otherwise!

We vote for these ideals by our actions.
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November 21, 2018, 06:03:52 PM
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You see crypto in the long term that some people don't have thoughts like you, they easily panic and sell low. What you see is the truth that crypto is full of benefits.

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November 21, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

That is attitude! Lets more think like others are thinking and have own opinion.
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November 21, 2018, 06:10:32 PM
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At last there is a real crypto enthusiast. Smiley

Your intention is right the crypto currencies are found to spend or transact between the two users without much burden and any third parties support.Don't worry the price won't go to $1 when the time comes you are going to spend it so just chillout and enjoy the red days.


Hmm, I was going to say a real dummy.

Diversification is key , putting all your eggs in 1 basket is a recipe for disaster.

* Bitcoin is not guaranteed to survive ,it is a product with No Guarantees ,
so unless St4yInTh3D4rk has the capability to keep a few warehouses of ASICS running,
his financial future depends on miners that only work for profit. (ie: no profit , no miners , no bitcoin)

No one tell him,  we don't want to burst his fairy tale bubble, he probably has a unicorn in there with him.  Cheesy


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You should be able to think again in this case, it's okay if the money you use in crypto is "fine to lose it". so, when later the old crypto to recover at least you can still let it go. What is feared is, the money you use is your capital for business and daily needs
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Thank you for writing this. During these hard times we need to see that there are people out there who still believe in bitcoin. I agree that banks are terrible ad keep charging people for no reason, but I find it hard to stay calm when btc is falling so much. I've been saving money in btc for a while and so I lost quite a big sum because of the recent drop. I would still use bitcoin whatever the price is, but if the price keeps goin down, I don't want to lose all of my investments. Yes, banks are terrible, but fiat is stable and this is kind of important. I had 1k in December last year and decided to hold it. As you can guess that $1k became some $300 pretty fast... I really wish bitcoin wasn't like that. It's okay if it doesn't grow, but it should stop falling and at least reach some nice $15k level and stabilize there.

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November 21, 2018, 08:09:55 PM
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This should be the spirit of all crypto investors but most investors are quite shaken by the current market rate and as a result of that they are all selling cheap. Well it is very good that you have realized this nature of bitcoin before any run. There is always a dump in price before the rise so i agree with you to hodl your bitcoin for future use.

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
What will you do if the price goes down more? I understand your love to Bitcoin but no one knows what will happen in the future, nobody guarantees that the price will not fall further. Another possibility is that Bitcoin will be replaced by another digital currency. So you should see these as a possibility and invest Bitcoin as much as you can afford to lose and diversify remaining portion of your portfolio among some investment sectors according to their risks.
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I like your spirit, but we as investor must think smart, when crypto not really have good prospect anymore, it means we must get out and look for other investment. But if you're really bitcoin believer, it is good to do it as long you use free money.

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November 21, 2018, 09:18:41 PM
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If the market recover's then you can sell for a good price.

Nope, I will never SELL them.. I will USE them to BUY a car, house, cheese, service, concert ticket, oil, bills, taxi.. whatever. But won`t turn them in fiat for sure.
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Ignore all the notion of collapse and breakdown of this bad market, believe in it and believe that HOLD keeps things going. I guess many investors want to be a Holder because they know this helps the market to reduce the risk and will come back.
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November 21, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
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As much as I agree with your sentiments regarding the flaws of the fiat banking system, keeping all your funds in BTC or other crypto is a bad idea. You say you don't care if the price goes to 1 cent. If all your money is in BTC, I'd bet you would care quite a lot if you lost >99.999% of your net worth. Regardless of how "real" your 1 cent is, that's not going to pay your rent or buy your food.

Unfortunatelly yes by that time, so I can not keep all my funds in crypto; by that reason I do keep all my savings here.


Again, as much as I would like this to be the case, it simply isn't at the moment and won't be any time soon. As much as I would like to only use crypto, we have to use fiat for bills, food, gas, etc. Keeping a healthy exposure to crypto and various fiat investments is necessary for a secure future.

Nowadays the innovations change the whole systems in surprisingly short terms. I`m not sure if You can remember the old corded phones with analog dial-up. Actually the first broad commercial use of the mobile phones started somewhen between 1998-2000. And where we are now? For less than 20 years we use ONLY mobiles. I won`t even talk about the smartphones. We are rather too late with BTC and the reason is mainly by the fiat-master`s FUD.
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November 21, 2018, 10:22:26 PM
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For a long time, it was a good time to spend your Bitcoins. Now you can buy your Bitcoins back at a much lower price. I think it’s important to spend your Bitcoins.
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Thank you for writing this. During these hard times we need to see that there are people out there who still believe in bitcoin. I agree that banks are terrible ad keep charging people for no reason, but I find it hard to stay calm when btc is falling so much. I've been saving money in btc for a while and so I lost quite a big sum because of the recent drop. I would still use bitcoin whatever the price is, but if the price keeps goin down, I don't want to lose all of my investments. Yes, banks are terrible, but fiat is stable and this is kind of important. I had 1k in December last year and decided to hold it. As you can guess that $1k became some $300 pretty fast... I really wish bitcoin wasn't like that. It's okay if it doesn't grow, but it should stop falling and at least reach some nice $15k level and stabilize there.

Yes, I do understand You very well but I think that the point to stay calm is the point of view we have about BTC. It is NOT (only) an investment as it`s trendable to be figured out last couple of years. The smartphone is NOT (only) a cordless phone. It`s much more. BTC is Money 2.0+ and I mean real money. You can keep calm all the time when You know it is INEVITABLE. When the first internet connection was estabilished, it was already INEVITABLE to be mass adobted. It was just a question of time. Because it was an innovation;  because it was an improvement;  because it made the things better and easier (communication, information, connections, freedom... ). BTC is the same. I couldn`t even count all the things it makes easier, clearer and much more better. And it is INEVITABLE. And of course due ti its limited supply and deflationary nature it will be profitable as an investment but it is much more than that.
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November 21, 2018, 10:25:28 PM
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amazing, you have a big ambition towards BTC, and we need many people like you. bitcoin will never go down to under $ 1000. BTC will end this year with a value of $ 4500.

so, we will always be optimistic about holding and buying BTC every time. I appreciate your decision.
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I  believe that what happen in the current market situation is simply temporary and I think that it will soon to recover in due time.  As per understanding,  this bearish market is due to manipulation  of some big crypto players and that is why it would be better to hold your cryptos until the most awaited pump will come.
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Holding the coins is good strategy at this point of time as the market has already shed lot of value of the coins and it would be better to keep an eye on the market rather not  to care for future gains. 

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November 21, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
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This should be the spirit of all crypto investors but most investors are quite shaken by the current market rate and as a result of that they are all selling cheap. Well it is very good that you have realized this nature of bitcoin before any run. There is always a dump in price before the rise so i agree with you to hodl your bitcoin for future use.
the great whales who fought between the BCHABC and the BCHSV manipulated the market, finally, the other big whales had to wait a long time to make profits. they even sell at cheap prices.

I don't agree with you, the future is still unclear, we only use volatility for getting a profit. and it will be difficult to be used in the future.
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That is the spirit, you gonna go far and this is the best decision you relly looking beyond todays dispair and mobing up the courage to embrace the good fortune of bitcoin. Whether they are scared to buy or not to us it si the opportunity to buy and make better investment. We will surely hold n nothing else.

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Yes I don't care this bearish market because I am tried of holding bitcoin, altcoins. From year beginning to now I am holding my bitcoin and Ethereum. So I don't fear of bearish market.

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

I am happy to see a colleague with this awareness
I do what you almost say
I will not sell now, I am a believer in crypto and not just a quick profit

I hope whales work like yours because it is better for them in the long run Smiley
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A real die hard Cryptocurrency Enthusiasts here! As an effect of the current dip on me, I found out I am no longer excited in checking my wallet balance and not expectant of any pleasant surprises. This still means hodling for me and no selling off! It is also a thing worthy of note that the markets are still accessible!
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Now is the right time to buy Bitcoin, and in this regard, I fully agree with you

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I see that the reasons are numerous
 whales game to drain the sellers
As well as a lack of awareness of those who caused confusion by making hard fork bch
Hence inexperienced owners (panic sell)
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
thank you for your inspiration. I will go with you. we will hold to die. I believe in Bitcoin.
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November 22, 2018, 02:50:35 AM
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well good for you but i don't think you are doing the right thing by having "ALL" your savings in bitcoin. as long as humans were making investment, they were advised to diversify and also to invest what they can afford to lose not all their savings.
of course your strategy depends on your lifestyle but for an average person, specially the bread winner of the family doing something like that is reckless in my opinion. don't get me wrong i strongly believe in bitcoin's future and i have a large stake in it but i still keep fiat and also other assets as a safety net.

I totally agree, investing all in crypto is too risky as you can see the price is too fluctuative and some even can fall until no value, I understand the frustration being supervised and unable to get freedom by using fiat, the most common sense is to diversify your investment into fiat and crypto, crypto still got unclear regulation, if the government decided to banned crypto then you can't do anything, and for now there are not many things that you can buy using crypto
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A real die hard Cryptocurrency Enthusiasts here! As an effect of the current dip on me, I found out I am no longer excited in checking my wallet balance and not expectant of any pleasant surprises. This still means hodling for me and no selling off! It is also a thing worthy of note that the markets are still accessible!
yes, everyone has their own way. sometimes, as far as any bitcoin price drops, they will still hold the coins they have, because the purpose of using bitcoin is different. however, I am also different, and try to sell some of my assets before the price drops again.


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You should have keep some amount for your personal holdings,always remember that we must not invest all of ours in this profiteering because no one knows what will be the future might give to us,and yes i trust this market but i trust nore my self
But we have the same stand about this bear market and that is to hold until what it cost me
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In the middle of people who complaining the price at least i have seen motivate statement for those who involved in crypto but apparently in the past you were already let down by banks system because seems you will never interested again to save your money through banks but i was wondering how to recover your mentally if someday bitcoin has no value again whether you will stick to bitcoin or not

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November 22, 2018, 05:04:37 AM
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Now is the right time to buy Bitcoin, and in this regard, I fully agree with you

You have to buy, and buy a lot to prepare for the beginning of 2019, I think the price will rise again and surpass the level of 10K, but only because I guess and I believe in it. I bought a lot to prepare Grin.

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You got the point of this whole experiment and I gave you credit for that.  Wink

People are so focussed on the potential for profit, that they miss the bigger picture and also the most important power of this this technology, namely : Financial freedom.

I have also seen the bigger picture and the protection that this technology is offering humanity against a corrupted Fiat system, that are manipulated by corrupt governments.  Wink

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November 22, 2018, 06:11:41 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Well in that case you need a crypto debit card. http://www.xinfinity.io Wink
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November 22, 2018, 06:47:14 AM
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It's really good that you are sticking to your principles and I hope Bitcoin goes up one day, unless you got into Bitcoin and mined it when it was very cheap or bought in cheaply and are still way ahead, then even more congratulations to you. I wish I owned some Bitcoin but I lost it all in the bear market, just got a few k USD worth of coins left and that's about it. I should have sold everything and tethered and now I would have 100 times more in BTC and coins had I cashed out back then 38 Bitcoin worth of stuff. Now I would have over 150 bitcoin if I had not made this grave mistake. I doubt I can ever recover this kind of money now, I would have to wait years and years if possible again.


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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
I also don't care about the price at the moment. I will hold to die. Never mind what people are saying about it.
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November 22, 2018, 09:57:25 AM
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Now is the right time to buy Bitcoin, and in this regard, I fully agree with you

You have to buy, and buy a lot to prepare for the beginning of 2019, I think the price will rise again and surpass the level of 10K, but only because I guess and I believe in it. I bought a lot to prepare Grin.
is there something big in 2019? so you believe the price of bitcoin will rise in that year? currently prices is low but that doesn't mean you have to buy without seeing the market first. from the analysis I see there will be another decline that will come. so I will wait again to buy at a lower price. if you want to play safe then you have to follow the market. don't use your ego that the bitcoin condition will alyways be fine. unless you intend to make a long-term investment
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November 22, 2018, 10:43:59 AM
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Well, good decision. That is only if you are certain of what will be the future of crypto. If you dont care taking big risk in putting all your money into crypto. You are brave man. I wish I can also take out my money from the bank and manage it by myself but i lack that ability. If I take it out and keep it by myself, i will surely be in big trouble in managing it and another problem is I will surely not put them all in crypto.

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November 22, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
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I must say I like your zeal not to sell the coins in your possession regardless of what is going on with the cryptocurrency market but there are some circumstances that might require you to sell
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In the middle of people who complaining the price at least i have seen motivate statement for those who involved in crypto but apparently in the past you were already let down by banks system because seems you will never interested again to save your money through banks but i was wondering how to recover your mentally if someday bitcoin has no value again whether you will stick to bitcoin or not


In my opinion as I decribed above, BTC is INEVITABLE. If by some terrible reason BTC fall to replace the current speculative monetary system.. these reasons will be so dramatical that my losts will be a really small problem for me.

You got the point of this whole experiment and I gave you credit for that.  Wink

People are so focussed on the potential for profit, that they miss the bigger picture and also the most important power of this this technology, namely : Financial freedom.

I have also seen the bigger picture and the protection that this technology is offering humanity against a corrupted Fiat system, that are manipulated by corrupt governments.  Wink

Exactly. I will mention only one point, just because it`s actual right now: BTC has a very clear, limited and transparent supply. If it is Your official currency You can not say: "Oh, we have to pay the debt now?! Go print some billions to be done, guys." You must know what does it mean exactly: an incoming inflation wave. Year after year. And You must know what does the inflation means - 99.98% of us go poorer and poorer and 0.02$ go reacher and reacher. Year after year You have LESS POWER OF PURPOSE and it is inevitable with the current monetary system, as well as the DEBT accumulation (national and global) and the dramatical social break up. The current system is suiciding itself and is about to finish that in surprisely short terms. BTC can solve these problems without pain for the mass population. And only it can solve them.
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November 22, 2018, 08:31:57 PM
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You got the point of this whole experiment and I gave you credit for that.  Wink

People are so focussed on the potential for profit, that they miss the bigger picture and also the most important power of this this technology, namely : Financial freedom.

I have also seen the bigger picture and the protection that this technology is offering humanity against a corrupted Fiat system, that are manipulated by corrupt governments.  Wink

Here we must distinguish between two goals of being in the crypto market:
1) it's the idea. And then you aim to support technology. You have invested extra money here on the basis of what you can lose. And you can wait until the very end or a new beginning.
2) a person has invested money to multiply them for some important purchase (child's training). And when a person didn't increase the amount and lost the investment, then a person can commit suicide.
These are such different goals.
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November 22, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
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I must say I like your zeal not to sell the coins in your possession regardless of what is going on with the cryptocurrency market but there are some circumstances that might require you to sell

I should say i don't really care about market becuase while investing or in initial stage we came to know there will be ups and downs in the value so i don't care now. I need to patient and be on Hold in order to benefited in the upcoming months/year which will take BTC back to 10K + in the market.

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November 22, 2018, 09:00:48 PM
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Even me, i dont care about the fall of the market!
But i dont just hold my BTC.
I also have Ethereum on my pocket.
Well and i dont just hold them, i buy more at this low market!
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November 22, 2018, 09:12:29 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

    That's the spirit of crypto. You have a lot of hope and courage despite of bitcoins value and you have a positive mind that driven your decision to a great possible to happen in the future of bitcoin. That is a wise decision ever not to sell nor to panic but be brave to hold and wait until market recover no matter what happen in the future.

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November 22, 2018, 09:39:16 PM
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It's good that you think so. I also believe that bitcoin is sure to grow again, there is no doubt about it. Its price may fall even lower, it will not prevent him then again to soar in price.

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If you buy your BTCs from a reasonable price, you may wait easily. For investors who buy from 5 digit figures, İt is a very scary and stresful desicion to take. Because nobody expects these figures in a short time and it is too risky to wait more. People who will not need to money soon must hodl and forget to sell their assets for a year.

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November 22, 2018, 11:04:36 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I suppose you should have bought it when the price was very low and so you are not with losses and reading all your post in this thread I also suppose that you must live in Europe or the USA and you must be someone lucky that you can ask bitcoin debit card, because if you are not a citizen of europe or an American citizen, then sooner or later you may have to change your bitcoin to fiat because you will not have a choice. If you have a very urgent need, your only option will be to change your bitcoins to fiat, unless you are in Europe or the United States to use bitcoin debit card

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November 23, 2018, 01:42:45 AM
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At last there is a real crypto enthusiast. Smiley

Your intention is right the crypto currencies are found to spend or transact between the two users without much burden and any third parties support.Don't worry the price won't go to $1 when the time comes you are going to spend it so just chillout and enjoy the red days.
I agree. We need this kind of person who bring positive view that inspire other people to do so. Do not worry of the fall but hold stronger and by some while waiting for the price to recover. Instead of bring someone to panic he encourage to let this happen and take this as an opportunity to buy cheaper.

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At last there is a real crypto enthusiast. Smiley

Your intention is right the crypto currencies are found to spend or transact between the two users without much burden and any third parties support.Don't worry the price won't go to $1 when the time comes you are going to spend it so just chillout and enjoy the red days.
I agree. We need this kind of person who bring positive view that inspire other people to do so. Do not worry of the fall but hold stronger and by some while waiting for the price to recover. Instead of bring someone to panic he encourage to let this happen and take this as an opportunity to buy cheaper.

I'm sure that there are a lot of crypto enthusiast who hold the same view as the OP. I myself used my bitcoins to pay with my bills (internet, phone and even electricity) so I know that the OP is talking about.

But I didn't put all my savings in crypto though, there will be times that I needed some FIAT for emergency purposes so I have a separate everything. Anyways, it looks like the OP has already made his decisions to go full crypto, and we can't blame him though its his decision and he knows what's best for him.

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I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
wow, you are strong man who our need to be with you. i dont kno bitcoin become $1 you still keep it on your wallet, but your opinion will make people was great to follow and together with you
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According to your words it seems like you had a bad experience with a bank Smiley
I still believe that fiat is more reliable than btc and other coins are. What could you do with Bitcoin if it will become 1$??
If you don't believe in bank system you can save paper money.. But still it's good that you believe in crypto as nowadays situation on the market is really terrible.
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Dont Hodl everything you have but some of them which are usable but  you are if you needt money so much and can do it then HODL many sell as there is no way.


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November 23, 2018, 07:33:14 AM
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What made you think of this? Is it because you learn that those FUD's are really not true? You see you should not trust and believe anybody here. And I agree with you OP. You should hold for now and maybe if you still have some good extra money then buy out more bitcoin now. This is the best time to buy crypto where market is down. Mind you it will comeback but it take some time to recover.
I agree with you if the way HODL is concerned about the market so that the market develops itself rather than seeing and monitoring market prices that are not stable
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November 23, 2018, 08:42:57 AM
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Holding  what you have for now is the best option, investors are selling out of fear that the market will collapse but this is not true,we need to believe in the market no matter what we see in the market now.
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Now is the right time to buy Bitcoin, and in this regard, I fully agree with you
Correct, Many investor's they buy and collect more coins when the price value goes down cause they know this is right to invest in cryptocurrency and I think this is best strategy of one investor's to buy bitcoin until the value is decreasing.
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

We all know that if we want to survive this bear market, the only option is to HODL the coins.
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One thing about holding is that it makes more sense when one is holding a coin that she/he so much believes in.

It helps in situations like this , you wouldn't be moved by the market current trend because you know market will recover and the coin will yield more profit then.

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Well said friend!

Let us never again be told that when we send money, it may take however long they tell us, and when we call about some discrepancy we get told there are technical issues and never know what is wrong.

Let there never again be a person like in Venezuela who receives his money for a hard day's work, and then discovers tomorrow that the same loaf of bread he bought today is 3 times his salary tomorrow.

Let there never be a time told by my government that tomorrow they inject new cash into the economy, so my money lost its value overnight, and will lose value every day guaranteed.

At least, even if Bitcoin is 1 cent, like you said. It's mine. All mine always mine, and it can't be removed or stolen by my government.

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November 23, 2018, 02:43:53 PM
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Isn't what cryptocurrency is about? A currency to use? Me too I adopt the HODL strategy since it has always worked before.
But at the same time, I have a real need to use crypto, so I do use my coins too, Just at a lesser level of coins I hold.

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I am happy that someone could get the right inspiration and motivation for the market no matter how bearish it is to hold till its time to use i have been keeping myself with that vibe and it has kept me going
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Yes mate, i concur with you. At this time the market is low, i think long term investment is the best.
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But you need to recognize that there are some people that are interested on the way that it works, and not only on the money.

All the people that is just for the money, are the ones that should be losing everything, because they are just speculating and not appreciating the real functions of bitcoins.

Seeing someone recognize the true potential of crypto is a good thing and not just for investment vehicle only or rich quick scheme.  Smiley

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The market is low of course, but it is advisable to hold until it gets to a favorable stage then one can sell.

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I am still holding my coins because I didn't buy. I earned most of it and I will have no regrets if it goes to 3000 or something like that. It will still have value to me and I'm ready to wait for it to reach the point at which I'll be satisfied. I know that it's much harder to hold when you spent fiat to buy coins because at some point they can go below what you've paid, but don't worry, it's not the end!
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Your BTC won't get you very far if the market goes to shit though, will it? Using bitcoin is what will really push it to the next level but most people aren't going to be happy to spend their bitcoin if the value is under that which they paid for it in FIAT.

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Your loyalty on bitcoin is good  and your be a good example to other bitcoin user or even to those who are still newbie in this forum. You know the value of bitcoin and you never mind if it will down to 1$.Youll be lucky one if the price of bitcoin goes up sooner and we truly believe it will happen.
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I'm very happy with positive people, the average HOLDER is not a TRADER, and their mindset is very different from a trader, but HOLDER is better than PANIC. I really appreciate the HOLDERS because of their patience in facing market conditions, and I hopefully the market Bullish really happens in the near future.

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many holders would agree with you. this dump of the price is just one of the stages of the bitcoin development. it will grow in the future so holding is the best decision.

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Yes, we should not pay attention to the present market whatever is happening to the market let them happen because we have nothing to to do except holding our coins. What we need to do now is holding and using our coin in the proper area. So be patient and hope for positive.
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hold a smart choice rather than having to sell at a low price, this is only a matter of price and time so it's likely that prices will grow as soon as possible and the market will soon be available.

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Yes, We should keep ourselves away from current market for some days. Untill change of market position. Cause new money will come into Bitcoin and others altcoin and price will increase.
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

finally there are also people who really understand the true meaning of bitcoin.
I am personally very impressed with your beliefs
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If more people think like you, it will be great. Today, crypto is speculation.

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I respect the way you believe, after all, the majority of us involved in cryptocurrency in a different way and we should take a brave move by not selling our investments. In other scenarios, I feel sorry for those who sold their bitcoin in the current bearish market.
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yes absolutely I too don't care about the market condition my goal is to hold it for the long-term.

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hold a smart choice rather than having to sell at a low price, this is only a matter of price and time so it's likely that prices will grow as soon as possible and the market will soon be available.
Holding is not a choice right now, it is a must with this critical market. I don't think selling these days would be beneficial since the prices are really low and so are the bitcoin that hit $4000 last week, market is kinda devastated right now and holding is the main thing to do. We have seen this happened last year on early ber months, but think of the year is not yet ended.
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November 24, 2018, 07:40:04 PM
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I can't disagree with you because I sincerely believe in bitcoin and its prospects of implementation as a currency, so regardless of its current value, I continue to support it.

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November 24, 2018, 08:44:48 PM
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It is sure that there are many investors who would never return their money into a bank. But hodling everything you have on one asset is very risky. I don't only mean hodling your savings in BTC, I mean hodling your all savings on only one asset is not a good idea. We must diversify our investments in order to decrase risk. I suggest you hodl until price of bitcoin increase enough to sell. After this, you must sell a part of your investments and invest your money at least three different assets.
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November 24, 2018, 09:06:54 PM
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hold a smart choice rather than having to sell at a low price, this is only a matter of price and time so it's likely that prices will grow as soon as possible and the market will soon be available.
What if price recover takes a long time? Because it is often not clear which way the price will go. In my opinion it may be more useful to try another coin/token instead of holding Bitcoin. Thus you reduce risk of loss.
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November 24, 2018, 10:52:20 PM
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If people continue to get affected with the market decline, I think that the market may continue to decline until it will stabilize into a certain level. I believe that holding your btc is still the most appropriate strategy these days and stop the panic selling for it will continue to have more supply of btc with lesser demand which makes the price value to dip. I am optimistic that the market will make a recovery soon and people should extend their patience.
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November 24, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Yeah, good boy. Go HODL.
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November 24, 2018, 11:02:32 PM
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many holders would agree with you. this dump of the price is just one of the stages of the bitcoin development. it will grow in the future so holding is the best decision.
Yeah, real hodlers will don’t care much about the market right now because they are so busy buying good coins. Well, I’m a hodlers but of course its normal to feel sad sometimes but I know this market will recover again and hodlers will be more happy again.

In fact, I also choose you. I can not choose any other, I bought at bitcoin very high prices, now I almost lost, I saved them a few years

You will be more bless for sure in the future, don’t sold your bitcoin yet because the best price will happen soon. Holding more bitcoin is the best thing that we can do now, hopefully billionaires will come and buy more bitcoin. Smiley
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November 24, 2018, 11:06:54 PM
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I admire the confidence and courage of the people who put all their savings in bitcoin. I strongly believe in the crypto market, but fluctuations and short-term volatility can produce huge losses. So, as the saying goes, I would not put the eggs in one basket.
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November 24, 2018, 11:17:23 PM
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We know that cryptocurrency or bitcoin trading and investing was to risky so we didn't  know if we are earning or not. Now I've  see one of positive thinker that no matter what happen he/she will hold bitcoin even lose or not. Yes you are right bank was earning to us but we didn't  earning for our savings to them. So it is better to invest in bitcoin than bank.
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November 24, 2018, 11:23:50 PM
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With due respective I quite admire your decision as regards hodling your coins rather than saving them in bank as fiat due to tax deductions irrespective of the present market conditions this is quite impressive and  you are doing so based on the fact that you are banking your coin and this could motivates other people to follow your step.

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November 24, 2018, 11:29:49 PM
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What a very condident decision of your's. I really think that it is good for you to invest. You're right that we shouldn't care if bitcoin goes down into a 1$, maybe it could be a way to buy more bitcoins and use it as future investment, then maybe bitcoin would climb its price again by 7000$ or 14,000$ likw what happen in december of 2017, then you're one of the millionaires if that would happen.
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November 24, 2018, 11:48:00 PM
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Of course, there are fewer problems with crypto than with money transfers through the Bank. Here you decide what to do with your savings and can at any time transfer them anywhere in the world. I see a potential in crypto and I too will hold it despite the market situation.

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November 25, 2018, 12:00:04 AM
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I'm happy for you!
Bitcoin was created as a protest against the existing banking system. Apparently its creator (or group of creators), just like you, felt the pressure of the banking system with its perpetual commissions and delays.
And as a reward for dislike of banks and faith in Bitcoin, you will soon receive a multiplication of your investments. Be sure of that.


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November 25, 2018, 01:14:52 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Thats the true spirit of bitcoin beleiver,honestly lots of people are involved with bitcoin or cryptocurrency but its only few who believe in its potential and willing to risk forever in bitcoin.You're such a good example of bitcoins believer mate,good for you!

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November 25, 2018, 03:43:53 AM
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many holders would agree with you. this dump of the price is just one of the stages of the bitcoin development. it will grow in the future so holding is the best decision.
I want passive income, because the market keeps fluctuating and doesn't dare to trade. Many bitcoin owners are waiting for the market to show an increase to throw bitcoin on the market, because too long HODL becomes unproductive. The bitcoin market will continue to show encouraging developments if there are buyers and sellers.
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November 25, 2018, 03:51:24 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.
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November 25, 2018, 03:55:37 AM
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wow amazing, how can you do that .
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November 25, 2018, 04:12:34 AM
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many holders would agree with you. this dump of the price is just one of the stages of the bitcoin development. it will grow in the future so holding is the best decision.
I want passive income, because the market keeps fluctuating and doesn't dare to trade. Many bitcoin owners are waiting for the market to show an increase to throw bitcoin on the market, because too long HODL becomes unproductive. The bitcoin market will continue to show encouraging developments if there are buyers and sellers.
if you have high patience it's not a problem, because we don't know how long it takes for the price to be back up and recover, because at this time only, the price continues to experience poor conditions. I myself prefer cutlose, because seeing the price continues to bleed, I will buy it again at the price below
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November 25, 2018, 03:07:25 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.


Hadn't you thought about investing in some tokens? It will give you an additional profit.
Some of them have positive movements even these days and are really chip for now so you don't have to invest much money in it.
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November 25, 2018, 04:36:06 PM
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If this is your decision mate, you are a real crypto enthusiast because you prefer to hold those amount while everybody is doin panic selling. Believing into bitcoin thatit will be back into ots highest pick at the right time is not possible. Maybe one day, bitcoin will pump,who knows. Lets just dont mind the current situation of a market mate.
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November 25, 2018, 04:45:03 PM
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wow amazing, how can you do that .
yes, it might be done because they have not trusted and surrendered to everything that happened so that they were randomly selling it without thinking of losses and that was a stupid act in my opinion. I'm sure everything will end and it will rise again, so we just wait and hold it.
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November 25, 2018, 04:52:50 PM
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Yes I cashed out of the banking system and brought lot's of Physical silver myself but the BTC Lightning hubs are little more than digital banks so avoiding bankers who as we all now know can pump-en-dump BTC is little excuse for staying here now.

"HODL to USE"

Yes good if you need a bit of weed, got strange sexual habits but in the real world we see that BitCoin is being used as payment in ransomware
attacks and now I am getting emails were apparently someone caught and filmed me using my PC's camera having a good old yank whilst watching
porn on the web which would be hard to do because my camera has had black tape over it for the past ten years thanks to Microsoft CIA spyware.

They even have a old password that I used on Ebay to try to convince me that that have hacked my very secure PC so it looks like all Ebay
passwords have been hacked at something in the past and are up for sale on the deep web.

Man you must be doing lots of weed or not have many coins if you intend on speeding them all instead of moving them around as you play the various
slot machine that accept digital coins is all I can say.

Mining is CPU-wars and Intel, AMD like it nearly as much as big oil likes miners wasting electricity. Is this what mankind has come too.
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November 25, 2018, 05:13:44 PM
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at last we got a real crypto and bitcoin supporter.definately current market is really bad but bitcoin will recover very soon and i am also with bitcoin.
bitcoin is not only crypto but also worlds future.

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November 25, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
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I also don't care about the market situation or bad news that spreads. I only consider my heart.
If I am sure that the market will rise, I will wait until I am bored.
and I will only give up if I decide for myself not because of a bad situation or bad news.
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November 25, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
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Interesting !
You are absolutely good in optimism.
Holding is great but hearted for me.
I better sell my coin than holding too long while the price is going worst.
What i think is , i get this coin free, why i don't sell it now. The market is going blooding, i take the risk. What ever the price. This is just a game, that what makes me strong in bad price.

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November 25, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
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This is really descriptive.  It's a value content,  one of the best post I have seen on this forum. This person really knows what he had invested into and ready to beat the risk till it pays off.  Everyone needs to learn from this and tailor your actions to look like this.  I strongly believe freedom , privacy and security is imminent and blockchain has given that to us. Am confident nothing is going to take that from us. 

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November 25, 2018, 08:06:15 PM
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I'm happy for you!
Bitcoin was created as a protest against the existing banking system. Apparently its creator (or group of creators), just like you, felt the pressure of the banking system with its perpetual commissions and delays.
And as a reward for dislike of banks and faith in Bitcoin, you will soon receive a multiplication of your investments. Be sure of that.
that's right, therefore by holding back to earning promising income it's easy because bitcoin can be a promising investment for our future and can be used as a bank to deviate our money too

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November 25, 2018, 08:31:21 PM
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Bitcoin will be fine. I believe that because it's a very powerful technology that will be applicable by people. This means that the price will grow, and there is no reason to doubt it.
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November 25, 2018, 08:42:25 PM
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I a gree with you. now, don't be too fixated on the market conditions because the current conditions are very bad and this condition will last a long time, maybe it will arrive at the beginning of 2019. and conditions like this are the right time to hold our assets as long as possible and not easily affected to sell assets. at present, selling assets will worsen our financial condition and worsen crypto prices in the market. at present, the most appropriate is to buy crypto.
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"to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions.."

You don't pay taxes to receive money in your bank account, you pay on what you earned, if you sold a house for $500,000 and your profit was $74,000 you're paying taxes on $74,000 whether it's in bitcoin or in your bank account. That's income tax, not a bank tax.

You don't pay taxes to use their internet banking ( which is safer than bitcoin, if you get hacked and your money stolen, they will return it. Bitcoin won't )

You don't pay taxes for various transactions? what country do you live? you're an idiot.

PayPal withdrawal's are free to a bank account in the USA, PayPal Transactions are free to friends and family, bitcoin is not free, the fees are usually higher than PayPal's on amounts under $40

I think you're just talking out your a s s because you can.

Let's say you deposited $200,000 in your bank account back in January this year and it was ALL profit and you had to pay taxes on it. Let's say your taxes were 35 percent, that's $70,000. You'd have $130,000 in your account come tax time. Or you put $204,000 in bitcoin in January you'd have around $64,000 today. So I think you're making the wisest decision and you seem like a very responsible reasonable individual. Lol
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Sell when price rises.  Buy when price drops.  Most people don't do this so they lose, lose, and lose again.

That is the secret to wealth.  Your welcome, carry on.
I think that quite a lot of people do so, but if the course is constantly going down you can not ride the waves and earn ! It is better to just buy more as much as possible and believe in bitcoin !

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We should ask ourselves this question before make any direction. how much BTC are sold to make the BTC price drop this way, who is able to sell these amount at this price?
 obviously there is a fake sell wall at centralized exchanges, they want to collect as many BTC as they could at cheapest price to cover their position before get into regulation.

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November 25, 2018, 10:48:20 PM
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You see crypto in the long term that some people don't have thoughts like you, they easily panic and sell low. What you see is the truth that crypto is full of benefits.
This people selling bitcoin when they price fall down they panic to sell, this kind of people are lack of knowledge about in cryptocurrency cause they didn't understand the real benefits of cryptocurrency. Before joining in investing in cryptocurrency it's better to study how investment works in the market and what better term investment to gain more profit.

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November 25, 2018, 11:02:25 PM
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I also don't care about the market situation, bro. because I have now decided to invest long term. Calculate savings for the future.

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if I still care about the market situation, bro. but now I have decided to invest in the long term. because now I have a side job in the real world. and the results are very enough to meet daily needs
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November 25, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
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I agree, nothing would give me greater pleasure than to get away from the banks and just use bitcoin etc on a day to day basis, however I have to live in a world that as yet is not yet ready to embrace bitcoin. The turmoil in the market just adds to the lack of willingness on behalf of the public and business to adopt bitcoin.  

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Perhaps this is our only opportunity to become rich so I think it would be foolish not to use it

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You are one of the Savage Bitcoin Lover I've ever seen. When other people are miscalculating the potential of bitcoin and they say that There is no more hope in cryptocurrency, You on the other hand are promoting to use it again for hodling your money instead of putting it on the Useless bank on your country where you need some more complicated transactions to get your money back. I salute you for being a Bitcoin Enthusiast.

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November 25, 2018, 11:18:52 PM
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Bitcoin has plunged to its all time low so far this year reaching 3,000$ mark but that doesn't shaken my faith in bitcoin and the alt coins. Instead of panicking, i hold on to my portfolio because i still see a brighter future of cryptos.

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November 25, 2018, 11:29:58 PM
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It's not wise to keep ALL your savings in Bitcoin. Yes, it can be very annoying to wait for transition or approval of the bank for some transactions but you can really lose a lot if bitcoins value does not recover enough so you could stay unharmed, financially speaking. Lots of time will pass until we could use bitcoin to purchase everything we need. Until then, we are stuck with the banks.
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November 26, 2018, 01:17:17 AM
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Only the smart will HODL and even buy more Bitcoin when the market goes down like this. Bitcoin can never continue to drop, definitely there will be a another bull run. Buyers of today will be the rich men some few months to come, watch out for that.
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Only the smart will HODL and even buy more Bitcoin when the market goes down like this. Bitcoin can never continue to drop, definitely there will be a another bull run. Buyers of today will be the rich men some few months to come, watch out for that.
That is true BUT smartest money do not just HODL but they passively increase their assets instead with lowest risks.
Check that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5073747
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November 26, 2018, 03:20:16 AM
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many holders would agree with you. this dump of the price is just one of the stages of the bitcoin development. it will grow in the future so holding is the best decision.

I am one of these guys, who will agree with it. Holding (hodling, better say) is the number one strategy when you see that the market is down, and the prices of the cryptocurrencies are waving.
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November 26, 2018, 03:42:45 AM
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At last, I see someone with a huge dedication and gambled everything on bitcoin. Its your choice to choose this path but I must say that you have always an alternate plan if the first plan don't work out. But if your plan works out, you will become one of the most successful in this field. I guess its all about taking risks, the greater the risk the bigger the reward you will get.

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November 26, 2018, 04:18:53 AM
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At last agree with you, don't wait panic time and no need waiting when Bitcoin price will go to moon. Actually we know crypto market do it contorl we are people.if we cannot buy/sale then how market will get green color?? But I have some Bitcoin hold because I bought when have Bitcoin price 15$k up.but now I want to buy/sale continue and everything. definitely will market situation back anytime.
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November 26, 2018, 07:01:24 AM
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I agree with opinion, i think when it comes to bank, you are only a money provider, not an investor, then they lend your money to earn profits for themselves. I believe that the cryptocurrency market will bounce back again the future so there is no reason to worry about its present situation because it is only temporary. Hodl is still the best strategy during bearish market and this is also the right time to buy more coins while they are in lower prices.
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November 26, 2018, 07:09:25 AM
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Better keep holding our coin in current market condition. Better buying more coin in market and accumulating more coin because the price right now very cheap
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November 26, 2018, 07:20:29 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
I will hold my btc until I feel enough to sell. For me, long term investment always bring  more benefits.
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November 26, 2018, 07:29:48 AM
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[I will hold my btc until I feel enough to sell. For me, long term investment always bring  more benefits.
Do you know that you can passively increase your BTC amount while holding all the BTC in your personal account on Binance?
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November 26, 2018, 07:32:58 AM
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many holders would agree with you. this dump of the price is just one of the stages of the bitcoin development. it will grow in the future so holding is the best decision.

I am one of these guys, who will agree with it. Holding (hodling, better say) is the number one strategy when you see that the market is down, and the prices of the cryptocurrencies are waving.
Of course, in this situation hodling is the best strategy for us to save our assets. Keep trusting and optimistic the price Bitcoin will return to the moon in the next year. If you have more money I think this is the best time to buy more Bitcoin as long term investment.  
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November 26, 2018, 07:49:58 AM
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It seems that you are a fan of crypto currency, it is true that saving money in crypto is free of annual taxes, in my country everyone has to report all assets and money, including at the bank. I don't think it will fall to the price of 1 $. After this month all crypto will return to green.
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November 26, 2018, 08:05:57 AM
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It's your choice if you still want to hold all your coins but we cannot control the mindset of other people who also have their bitcoins or altcoins if they still want to hold it or not. If you think your strategy will work for the future then that is good because after all, that happens, you still have a positive mind.
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November 26, 2018, 08:40:29 AM
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I like your courage despite the price is so bad now. Nobody will argue about the tidiness of transacting with bitcoin. It is faster, easy and safe to do. There is no third party involved and it also saves you money as the service charges to the third parties are completely eliminated. You will be in control of your money and the banks and their owners that will be taking your money for one service charge.
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November 26, 2018, 08:49:14 AM
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Well, it is nice that you are holding your Bitcoin assets. But let's be wise here and do not use our emotions when we are deciding things. Let's think every possible scenario and think all of this through.
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November 26, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
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Imposible to drop in 1$ or 1¢, this price will raise up again. No one know when the price will up but in my predict Bitcoin will pump again after new year 2019  Grin
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You are the little one who believes that bitcoin is a necessary solution in everyday circulation. It's a great idea to keep all your savings in bitcoin. Yes, now is not the best of times but I assure you with the next pump you will become rich and forget about the need to carry your money to the Bank humiliating there for their Commission.

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I agree to the HODL part and not caring too much on the price. It will bull run for sure. But why not just sell it at that time?
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if you choose between a bank and a cryptocurrency, then the choice is obvious. cryptocurrency will give you the opportunity to earn much more
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With the present dip, most investors has experience loss in our portfolio, no need to count our loss or be scared of the crytptocurrency space, the Bull run is sure to commence soon, the best decision is to keep HODLing as the bull run will commence soon, the correction is still on, and lot of investors will join the space base on the dip in price, this gives an assurance that there is life in the CRYPTO community.
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November 26, 2018, 09:17:09 PM
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The red market has been around for too long, and I also think it's a good idea to keep everything in a private key. Give up everything and do not think about anything until next year. I believe everything will not end here and it just started its journey.

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November 26, 2018, 10:08:14 PM
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I am definitely in the same boat, in fact, I know what to answer when people ask me about bitcoin, I'm going to HODL TO USE!, in the end is why Satoshi created bitcoin, a reliable, anonymous and secure way to have your money and make your transactions, probably this market crash brings us closer to the vision of Satoshi.

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haha, you are right, it a good decision. maybe it will work when it will rise up again and again. and i think it will not good when the price is dropping more and more again. but from the probabilities it will give big chance when the you HOLD it

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November 27, 2018, 12:43:14 AM
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Well, it is nice that you are holding your Bitcoin assets. But let's be wise here and do not use our emotions when we are deciding things. Let's think every possible scenario and think all of this through.
don't use your emotions, you're right. use your technical analysis to make choices don't use your feelings dude, I know it's good for the market to hold, but you also have to pay attention to the losses that you might get if you continued to hold it? do technical analysis to make choices about selling or holding, I think that is wise behavior
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

If we serious to what happen of bitcoin tight now we are all loser just keep calm and wait for a good transition of price, you definitely right we don't care about the negative result of the market trend we just need focus straight and hoping for a good development.
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November 27, 2018, 07:00:21 AM
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I also hold my Btc and I'm confident that the price will recover in the future. There’s absolutely no reason to try and pick the bottom.. if it starts going up, you’ll have plenty time to jump in and make gains.. a trend doesn’t end in a week. This down trend has lasted 10 months.. the uptrend before it in 2017, nearly a whole year.. just sit tight on your powder and wait until it’s safe and obvious

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November 27, 2018, 07:47:06 AM
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Certainly there will be times when bitcoin will go up again in value. Maybe it will be several years from now. And there is no point of panicking. Hold as long as you want and as long as you don't need the money yet. But if you really need your money then never wait for it drop too low and be back up maybe 5 years from now. It's a long wait if you really need your money, even a year is very long for someone who wants it for immediate need. So if you really need your money never store it in bitcoin otherwise you can do so even if it takes a hundred years and let your heirs claim it for you.

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haha, you are right, it a good decision. maybe it will work when it will rise up again and again. and i think it will not good when the price is dropping more and more again. but from the probabilities it will give big chance when the you HOLD it

I think the same with you that just keep us going what happens happens to ignore, even if prices have dropped, prices have not increased. It simply pays to keep and we will have money, right?  Tongue

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November 27, 2018, 08:45:18 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
still hold until you can, until the price of that is not stable you can overcome it with you faith and trusting on yourself don't fool yourself because of the other advices
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November 27, 2018, 08:49:04 AM
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you really believe in yourself, thinking like you characterizes a true bitcoin investor, but I am a little suspicious, your statement seems you really hate the bank, maybe you've been disappointed? banks are like that, sometimes implementing regulations that are just a waste of time and lots of time the costs are not clear, but we live in the real world, rational must be used, that is our instinct as humans, I like your principles but I cannot justify you thoughtfully because honestly I don't want to have a bad future just because I risking all my money on bitcoin (the principle of economic speaking)
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November 27, 2018, 08:52:34 AM
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I also don't care about the current market situation, bro. because my goal to invest is to save some of the assets that I have in the digital bitcoin world ..therefore I have never used capital to buy bitcoin from loans or daily needs ...

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November 27, 2018, 08:53:12 AM
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Certainly there will be times when bitcoin will go up again in value. Maybe it will be several years from now. And there is no point of panicking. Hold as long as you want and as long as you don't need the money yet. But if you really need your money then never wait for it drop too low and be back up maybe 5 years from now. It's a long wait if you really need your money, even a year is very long for someone who wants it for immediate need. So if you really need your money never store it in bitcoin otherwise you can do so even if it takes a hundred years and let your heirs claim it for you.

Yeah, keeping money that you need for life in crypto is extremely risky. It's simply not possible, especially in a bear market. It may take a few years to return to the previous levels of 20 000.
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November 27, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
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You see crypto in the long term that some people don't have thoughts like you, they easily panic and sell low. What you see is the truth that crypto is full of benefits.
what you convey is very true because before investing, of course we have to know with all the risks in investing with bitcoin, maybe confidence and patience in conditions like today are the best capital

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November 27, 2018, 09:58:35 AM
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Not sure why you are so mad/angry about banks , but if you don't hide nothing and pay your taxes then there should be no problems with bank. I never had my account frozen or payment delayed . It will be kinda little hard for you just to live on BTC to pay bills , pay for food and stuff like that . But its not impossible
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November 27, 2018, 10:16:05 AM
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I am glad your motivation for holding your asset bitcoin or altcoin although price is not good today, I trust some day bitcoin and altcoin could growing up again to higher price and you can take much profit later if you keep hold your asset.
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November 27, 2018, 10:28:18 AM
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well, i depends on how much you have, and what price you bought on ! if you bought at a low price then you wont care if it crashed more, but if you bought at a high price then you may not afford holding, especially if it crashed more, lower than 1k usd or so.
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November 27, 2018, 10:43:28 AM
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you take nice decision i appreciate its i believe that bitcoin future is bright and it will b survive and its price will be recover soon,i also hold my bitcoin and will be buy more
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November 27, 2018, 11:19:35 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
This is the person who really believes in Bitcoin and in Crypto Currency! Congrats.
I also believe the time will come and the price of bitcoins will increase too!

Just Hold!
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November 27, 2018, 11:35:40 AM
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Actually this would be the one of the greatest think to do for bitcoin today, odl and keep using. But howmany people would do that, this is the main question. There are news that some companies stopped to pay or recieve bitcoin payments. If it other companies follows them that would be big problem and the bitcoin payment could stop. This is the worst scenario yes but we need to prepared everything..
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November 27, 2018, 11:41:59 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
You take a very big risk, I suggest you to sell now then buy it again when the price reach the peak of price down so you can own more bitcoin at that point you can hold your bitcoin until a few years then you could use your profit that you will get to buy any thing you want. Don't be emotional mate, sell now then buy it again when the price reach $1500 I think the price will not going down further than that point.
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November 27, 2018, 11:54:49 AM
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Yes, I agree and strongly support you. You are very enthusiastic about this crypto world. All you need to know is that Bitcoin won't be worth 1 cent if the community still believes in bitcoin. Stay HODL even though the market is sluggish. Stay confident in crypto
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November 27, 2018, 12:11:14 PM
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I dont agree to transfer all your money to bitcoin it must be something like 60/40% but if you are a true believer in the crypto you will be confident enough to whatever thoughts you have about bitcoin and trust it 100% no matter what will happen in its value in the future, with this insights I can say your a true hodler man. 

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November 27, 2018, 12:40:02 PM
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Well, when it comes to long-term investment, such short-term incidents doesn't affect the long-term strategy. However, the newbies fail to understand and realise the fact that anything happening in the market doesn't necessarily affects the growth of it in the future and hence one should never consider one short-term event while building a long-term strategy. Experienced investors build their portfolio without worrying about short term scenarios and it helps them to generate more profits.
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November 27, 2018, 12:42:30 PM
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The market has fallen like this, and the value of my cryptocurrency has lost 80%!
I have no choice but to HODL, I will not sell my cryptocurrency at a loss! Choose to continue waiting, there is no other way!
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November 27, 2018, 04:28:25 PM
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The market has fallen like this, and the value of my cryptocurrency has lost 80%!
I have no choice but to HODL, I will not sell my cryptocurrency at a loss! Choose to continue waiting, there is no other way!


Op is probably looking beyond the price of btc and to it's actual usage as a transactional means in the future. I actually like that kind of outlook towards btc and this will remove you from the people feeling anxious about btc's volatile ups and downs. Look at the bigger picture and the value will follow in due time.

 
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November 27, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
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Holding BTC or cryptocurrency, in general, is a good idea. But for most of us, selling when a profit is achieved can do wonders for you. I hold 30-40% of my investment, but if I see an excellent opportunity to make big bucks, I generally go in and do it. However, this can be risky, and if you are an ordinary trader, you may want to hold your gathering for long-term benefits.

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November 27, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
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incredible optimism, I really believe in you that later what you invest now will multiply in value in the future, bitcoin is a very potential currency and now the right time to buy as much as possible. I am sure this is the exact same condition as last 2014, and I will not regret it anymore for not buying bitcoin now
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November 27, 2018, 04:43:23 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Very strong opinion1 One has to be careful even in this case because for what we know is that there is a slim chance that Bitcoin may not do as well as we expect it to. Sometimes is worth taking the immediate rather than the long loss.
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November 27, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
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The reasons behind of which you prefer to leave your money in Btc is very fantastic and I would say it reflects the main reason for crypto. I must admit that we are in a very bad time and many have lost more than half of their investment but there are still real and clear reasons why some of us wouldnt go anywhere

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November 27, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
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incredible optimism, I really believe in you that later what you invest now will multiply in value in the future, bitcoin is a very potential currency and now the right time to buy as much as possible. I am sure this is the exact same condition as last 2014, and I will not regret it anymore for not buying bitcoin now

I think multiplying assets will not be that easy, especially if it is calculated according to the time period (ie monthly) it is not worth doing, scalping is actually better but also so, the risks faced are also greater. depending on the condition of the market what is the time when we enter the market

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November 27, 2018, 04:52:25 PM
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Yes it will be nice to not have the bank as the middleman in every single financial transaction, giving us death by a thousand cuts in fees. However, taxes are not the problem, they support a society that simple pure capitalism would never be able to do. By uplifting others quality of life you uplift your own and our whole species can go on for bigger and better things.
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November 27, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
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Today's market is very rarely used because the very low price of coins we cannot sell it is better to sell it on the market that just came out or save it for a higher price.
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November 27, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
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Unfortunately, this is not a platform where you can spend a few days in the market and evaluate your money 100 times. The ups and downs of this market are very high. You should learn to wait patiently. Or you lose more.
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November 27, 2018, 07:55:52 PM
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holding bitcoin although is very nice of you but you must be aware by now that bitcoin is very volatile and full of many risk  due to it vulnerability of storage which many hackers have access to most storage medium . despite that bitcoin is the future of digital transaction that is yet to be adopted massively , l will suggest you spread all your hard earn money in different asset such as investing in  gold and shares of company that have good reputation  and not only crytpocurrecny so that that if  bitcoins continues it bearish signal and hit $100 and become worthless you still have what to fall back to take of your basics need.

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December 12, 2018, 02:48:28 AM
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Yes, I agree and strongly support you. You are very enthusiastic about this crypto world. All you need to know is that Bitcoin won't be worth 1 cent if the community still believes in bitcoin. Stay HODL even though the market is sluggish. Stay confident in crypto
I believe that the price of bitcoin is like a curve, there is a rise and fall. So HODL is a relaxing investment where it is not in a hurry to sell because the money used for bitcoin investment is money that is not used. This way of thinking makes the bitcoin market less dynamic. Because the market will move quickly when buying and selling are very crowded.
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December 12, 2018, 05:40:58 AM
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Yes, I agree and strongly support you. You are very enthusiastic about this crypto world. All you need to know is that Bitcoin won't be worth 1 cent if the community still believes in bitcoin. Stay HODL even though the market is sluggish. Stay confident in crypto
I believe that the price of bitcoin is like a curve, there is a rise and fall. So HODL is a relaxing investment where it is not in a hurry to sell because the money used for bitcoin investment is money that is not used. This way of thinking makes the bitcoin market less dynamic. Because the market will move quickly when buying and selling are very crowded.
The more Bitcoin transactions, the better it will be for the growth of Bitcoin prices.
Bitcoin will still have a price when there are still people who need Bitcoin.
I am optimistic that Bitcoin will still exist, this is because Bitcoin is a revolutionary in the world financial system.
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December 12, 2018, 06:03:40 AM
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what I did when the bitcoin price dropped and I bought it at that time, I was forced to hold the bitcoin or bitcoin that I used to trade other altcoins, basically don't panic sell, because I'm sure the bitcoin price will rise again as long as we wait patiently for bitcoin to rise.
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December 12, 2018, 06:12:41 AM
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Bitcoin is down because it's seeing some corrections which is healthy for a currency. So just hold or invest in a good platform to grow your coins because after the corrections, it will still rise again. Many people will make a lot of money if they drop their fears... invest in a good platform and watch your fears turn to profit.


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Either win in HODL or die in HODL, I don't want to imagine the worst ending, but Bitcoin is not optimistic now, the market lacks a rising momentum, and people's attention to Bitcoin is also falling, investment The investment enthusiasm is also fading, and everything seems to be moving in a bad direction.

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some crypto investors are currently experiencing severe shocks due to the current crypto market prices and as a result they all sell cheap. therefore be patient and recognize the nature of bitcoin before running anything. There is always a fall in prices before the increase so I agree with you to save bitcoin for the future.
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December 12, 2018, 10:04:40 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

LOL.  Your bank account?  It's the banks account.  They are just letting you store money in it.  What would you do with out the bank?  Store it under your mattress?  Ok, you are probably a drug dealer so that's fine. Wink

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December 12, 2018, 11:46:28 AM
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Most of the holders are the ones who risk their money for a long term investment,
They don't really care about the current price because they believe in crypto and they did invest for the future not for a quick cash.
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December 12, 2018, 11:59:43 AM
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I have come to earn the money and want to make a big portfolio investment from crypto, So i don't care about the market down situation which is currently going on. But how much it will be at down trend and Sometimes the market will bounce a lot. I am holding all investment now and waiting.

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For as much as I would want to hodl for as long as possible, the current market price isn't motivating enough to do that. I will preferrable sell off 70% of my assets to avoid total loss.
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December 12, 2018, 12:29:32 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
WOw i lovd This thread because you gave us motivation in this hardest time we hve here in cryptocurrency,we have same stand about hating to go back in Banking depository and will never do that stupidity again ,not even in my entire life.crypto is the future of technology and currency specially bitcoin

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December 12, 2018, 01:15:46 PM
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Bitcoin is down because it's seeing some corrections which is healthy for a currency. So just hold or invest in a good platform to grow your coins because after the corrections, it will still rise again. Many people will make a lot of money if they drop their fears... invest in a good platform and watch your fears turn to profit.


- I am not clear whether the present time is a correction or anything else, prices will rise again or fall forever and never come back, these are still very vague and there is no evidence to determine what will be the truth and what will happen in the near future. I only know one thing is our only choice at this moment is to continue to trust and hold because fear will not help us, it just makes things go in a negative direction, we have no other choice when our loss is almost everything, can only be like gambling, ignoring the atmosphere and negativity of the market, live and die with bitcoin, can not give up


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December 12, 2018, 01:28:07 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
It's so tough, you're so confident and I really appreciate it. There's not much people who strongly believe that whatever happen to bitcoin they will stand still with it. And I think bitcoin will never hit $1, it's too much. Having low price is probable but don't worry it won't last forever, no one know how long but there's hope for bitcoin to hit the top again. But I think it's better to wait rather than coming back to coventional system like banks.
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December 12, 2018, 01:42:10 PM
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You sound like a loyal btc user and we need more people like you. It is because of people with opposite thinking that problems arise and prices start falling.
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December 12, 2018, 02:43:49 PM
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For as much as I would want to hodl for as long as possible, the current market price isn't motivating enough to do that. I will preferrable sell off 70% of my assets to avoid total loss.
But I guess if you are planning to sell away your crypto-currencies assets at this moment, your losses would also be huge. Even though my investment portfolio in crypto-currencies have already dropped a lot due to this bearish market, but I would rather hold on to my crypto-currencies and put my trust in it, because I believe a trading market would never remain bearish forever, the stormy days will eventually end one day.

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December 12, 2018, 09:55:12 PM
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Now the most important thing for us is to continue to believe in bitcoin no matter what. The market is very much down, more and more people are talking about the death of bitcoin, but I continue to believe that the price will recover.

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December 12, 2018, 10:00:07 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
I agree because the real people know about the important of crypto or bitcoin is the one who know to hodl and don't have care if it's the price is go down. Because we all know that this bearish time is not for forever  it will change so calm down and buy more.

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December 12, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
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 I really agree with you on this, i just pity those that are selling their altcoins even in this bear market as for me I'm keeping my tokens when the market recovers then I sell them off
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December 12, 2018, 10:18:49 PM
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If every investor, like you, selflessly believed in bitcoin, it would develop much faster. But such people are very few and many are disappointed in bitcoin, even without a thorough understanding of it.

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December 12, 2018, 10:22:41 PM
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If a person has carefully studied the bitcoin technology before investing, then he certainly got acquainted with its feature - volatility. In this case, he's mentally ready for it and not panic when the prices fall. This is very important for all investorov.

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December 13, 2018, 03:37:14 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
That is a really strong determination that you have there, and you know what it is the most interesting thing about it? That even if you do not care at all about the fiat value of your bitcoin holdings since you will hold your coins no matter what, you are the most likely to receive the most benefits once the market recovers since people like you do not get influenced by FUD like most members here.
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December 13, 2018, 03:50:03 AM
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yeah i agree with you. i hold BTC for a long time
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December 13, 2018, 03:53:27 AM
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Really me to agree I don't care about this market situation because have ways to holding and investment planning.i think now I'm understanding this problem people are lot of crazy about Bitcoin down situation because they are doing buying Bitcoin,when have been price 15k dollars up.so now they are want to recover with the lossing money.i tell this captions it will be possible if you have waiting panic time.
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December 13, 2018, 03:57:52 AM
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i agree with this post. but i don't hold this. i will choose the bottom and get in again
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December 13, 2018, 04:01:37 AM
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but in my opinion i think we should stop loss
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December 13, 2018, 05:15:48 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Once you buy or invest in bitcoin you easy say that you can have good future but we can't depend our future with bitcoin and even there is no tax with bitcoin you should not turn all your money into bitcoin. Even you buy bitcoin and you will hold it until the price goes up but still its not a good to turn all your money into bitcoin.

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December 13, 2018, 05:44:30 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Are you going to survive for the next 4 years with the condition of BTC prices dropping dramatically?
I guess, you are a rich person who has hundreds of millions of dollars in assets and invests in crypto only 0.5%, so you are not afraid if your crypto assets run out
no one wants to be a poor person, think in reality
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December 13, 2018, 06:25:39 AM
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I am very curious about bitcoin price and due to this i can not pay my money to any one even i don't want to bu hings with it and watching the market for a very long time and now the market is not much good but still bitcoin value is good more than other altcoin.

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December 13, 2018, 06:45:56 AM
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Yes, for investors who have a long experience in the Cryptocurrency World, of course, they have the thought to hold their BItcoin at a time when the market is very bad like now. Because the price of Bitcoin has decreased not only 1 time or 2 times, but hundreds of times the price of Bitcoin has fallen but always rises with a very sharp increase.
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December 13, 2018, 07:25:27 AM
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It is only logical to want to hold especially in this bearish market.
The market is down, prices seem to be on a continuous tank....the best approach is holding tight pending when market recovers.
You wouldn't want just sell off at loss because of fear of the unknown.
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December 13, 2018, 07:42:28 AM
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I think you are making a big mistake. I believe that you shouldn't invest with all your savings with any business. How can you be sure like this? I would never do that in any circumstances. To put all your money into just one business is not a wise move. I would never put my self a danger like this. What will you do if the bitcoin price drops to $1? You have to spread your risk, this would be my humble advise.
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December 13, 2018, 07:48:06 AM
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because by holding it is great to overcome the current market, because by using this method we can avoid losses and later we can also get the desired benefits
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December 13, 2018, 07:58:21 AM
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I'm not really sure people will continue to hold their bitcoin if the value is almost worthless. Everyone is afraid of losing their assets, selling them early when the price of bitcoin drops is the right thing. That will make you not regret in the future.
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I'm not really sure people will continue to hold their bitcoin if the value is almost worthless. Everyone is afraid of losing their assets, selling them early when the price of bitcoin drops is the right thing. That will make you not regret in the future.


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of course there are still people that will prefer to hodl their bitcoin and they dont mind if the price will go down or even increase because they only use their bitcoin for paying and for shopping purposes  . remeber that is the main reason on why bitcoin and other cryptocurrency were built but ever since people also discovered about the volatile feature of cryptos , they will now use it for other purpose and that is for investment or for trades .

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selling them early when the price of bitcoin drops is the right thing. That will make you not regret in the future.

Lol . only noob and dumb person will do this  .  why the hell you will sell when the value is dropping ?  you will only loose more  if you do it .   that can rather give you regrets in the future .
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December 13, 2018, 08:38:03 AM
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You are free to choose whatever and however, you want to manage your finance but storing all your fund in BTC now is not the best financial decision anyone can make now as far as I am concerned. Hope you are looking at the value you have presently and compare it to what it was 6 weeks ago. If you are happy with the figures then keep holding.
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I think a good idea is we can do HOLD for a long time at a more stable price, so you also won't cut your losses.
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December 13, 2018, 10:09:19 AM
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I appreciate your principle of holding bitcoin, but will you be fine if the price of bitcoin really touches the price of 1 cent? I don't think so, because I'm sure you need living expenses and I think you will still need FIAT.
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December 13, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
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I appreciate your principle of holding bitcoin, but will you be fine if the price of bitcoin really touches the price of 1 cent? I don't think so, because I'm sure you need living expenses and I think you will still need FIAT.

Hey I understand that currently bitcoins prices are falling, and you're worried of the possibilities of bitcoins prices crashing even further than the current levels. While I do not believe that bitcoins prices willl ever touch one cents again, but if it were I'll yet hodl it cause I believe in the technology and that it'll succeed. I have a simple philosophy sell some coins at it's peak, and buy every time at dips follow it and then you don't need to worry.
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December 13, 2018, 02:53:18 PM
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Holding is a bold idea at the moment because if you sell you will loose both money and time because market is very low at the moment but if someone can buy bitcoin at this moment and hold until it recovers that is a very brave thing to do because due to the lower price today once bitcoin gets higher the profit margin will be much better so best thing to do is hold and be patient and buy as much as you can to increase the profit level
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I agree if you truly believe in crypto you wouldn't care about the current price,
You would trust it and I am sure that it wouldn't be worthless so relax and enjoy your life instead of being depress from the market.
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December 13, 2018, 03:25:24 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
I admire how strong your beliefs to keep holding despite market are keep dropping though current price doesn't be in our side I know after 2-3 years Bitcoin price may going up since adaptation are keep increasing and more and more people are getting engaged with it.
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December 13, 2018, 03:37:17 PM
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In case you HODL not more than 20% of your money in BTC, this tactic works perfect. I personally do the same. Bitcoin creates financial freedom for us, I can pay for services so fast and without any fear, with no taxes, isn't it great.

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December 13, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
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I agree if you truly believe in crypto you wouldn't care about the current price,
You would trust it and I am sure that it wouldn't be worthless so relax and enjoy your life instead of being depress from the market.
This is good thing to do holding crypto until today even the current price is so dropping. Good to know there are still person who do believe in crypto future.
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December 13, 2018, 05:16:05 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Bitcoin price will not fall to $1 again, if in this negative trend of bitcoin market have chance to make bitcoin price reach $1 then I will buy bitcoin as many as I can because it is actually really worth, people will use this as medium of exchange in online store or offline store. However bitcoin and paper money are lack of intrinsic value but bitcoin is operates better than paper money. Bitcoin transactions is fast, secure, no exchange money needed, no germ, can't be counterfeited, can't be ripped or burned and the amount is really limited. More merchants will accept bitcoin as medium of exchange because it's easier to use. Actually I also prefer like to use bitcoin to buy some cool stuff in internet.

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December 13, 2018, 06:06:05 PM
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The future of one's success usually more determined by the morality of our own decisions and that we can start from now. In the face of the crypto market whose condition is getting more critical as it is today, more likely to lean towards things we don't expect than we expect. For those who are not strong enough to deal with it, they often end their investment and trade tragically namely by how to sell all of their BTC, and the worse they don't care even though the price of BTC falls, I think this action is like suicide.

All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

I'm happy to hear the words of someone who has very high spirits like you, hopefully what you say can arouse people's enthusiasm and be able to break their anxieties because of the falling BTC prices.

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December 13, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
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You are very sure that crypto will be able to return to health and have a future. I think having confidence like you is very necessary that the market will recover.

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December 13, 2018, 07:15:25 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
I agree with the article, you are a true bitcoin fan like me ! I am sure that if you hold it and believe in the idea it will bear fruit ! People who sell it behave like a herd of hamsters and do not think that bitcoin can at any time show growth !

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December 13, 2018, 09:40:25 PM
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I also support author of this thread.
I would like to spent part of my income for bitcoin and hold for a long period.
Just each month to buy some part of bitcoin and do not touch at least 2-3 years.
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December 13, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
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This is what we called "Decisioning by your own". In such investment only ourself can help in making us successful. We are the one who striving hard in getting information and understands it.
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December 13, 2018, 10:44:49 PM
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That is good, holding bitcoin for future is good decision because bitcoin is not about now or near future. It is a future development in technology service hat  correlates with financial service. Therefore, don't be panic and worried about what happening now.

The recent market or price of bitcoin doesn't measure the future or the price, it is all as the characteristic of bitcoin, volatile.

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December 13, 2018, 11:38:11 PM
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The more people like you, the less rumors there will be around the death of bitcoin.Cryptocurrencies are a challenge to the old financial system.And the more supporters of cryptocurrencies such as You are,the more chances there will be to change the financial system.
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December 13, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
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Your comment is a source of motivation to me and gives me the courage to keep hodling regardless of the market conditions which of course is unfavorable while the banks  exploitations had become worrisome with all sorts of irrelevant charges in the name of taxes however with your btc in your wallet you will be unperturbed with those charges.
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December 14, 2018, 12:01:52 AM
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I get excited when people show genuine understanding toward Bitcoin and its purpose. Majority of individuals in the crypto space now joined because their had a false assumptions that, Bitcoin presents them with a get rich quick parameters. Due to this assumptions, any false speculations, they despair and give negative feedbacks which discourages newbie crypto enthusiast.
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December 14, 2018, 02:05:05 AM
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I also support author of this thread.
I would like to spent part of my income for bitcoin and hold for a long period.
Just each month to buy some part of bitcoin and do not touch at least 2-3 years.
is there a guarantee of 2-3 years the price of bitcoin will rise? I will not be in a hurry to take action until now I am still watching the price movements of bitcoin and still be patient waiting for stable prices, which I want to do buy and be careful so that my capital is not lost.
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December 14, 2018, 02:16:37 AM
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I also support author of this thread.
I would like to spent part of my income for bitcoin and hold for a long period.
Just each month to buy some part of bitcoin and do not touch at least 2-3 years.
well that would be a very good thing when you hold bitcoin only to use it in accordance with its benefits. when you use that, you might not even feel that holding back in a few years is quite easy. maybe this also applies to altcoins.
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December 14, 2018, 02:27:33 AM
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I also support author of this thread.
I would like to spent part of my income for bitcoin and hold for a long period.
Just each month to buy some part of bitcoin and do not touch at least 2-3 years.
well that would be a very good thing when you hold bitcoin only to use it in accordance with its benefits. when you use that, you might not even feel that holding back in a few years is quite easy. maybe this also applies to altcoins.
that's the commitment you have to hold when you intend to hold bitcoin. do not get affected by FUD and other things that might make you panic. don't care about falling prices. just focus on the future that will make you successfully to hold
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December 14, 2018, 03:43:04 AM
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I think this is a bad idea, don't settle all your money in one place, always have a backup plan, you'll ne regretting this if things don't struck in your way, however, I like how determined you are onto holding your BTC no matter what happens, that mentality is indeed strong, but it will also have risks and opportunities.
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December 14, 2018, 04:16:00 AM
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I think this is a bad idea, don't settle all your money in one place, always have a backup plan, you'll ne regretting this if things don't struck in your way, however, I like how determined you are onto holding your BTC no matter what happens, that mentality is indeed strong, but it will also have risks and opportunities.
If you fully trust the system and you are willing to take all the risk behind, people/investors last year who did the same thing when bitcoin was introduce became a millionaire/billionaire because of holding their coins, who knows what will happen in the future, stay positive and allow yourself to learn deeper from this venture that you choose. focus and use your own judgement not to be move by any form of fuds.
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December 14, 2018, 04:20:29 AM
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People use different opinions like some people are working for bitcoin and they need some online services so they want to continue all the operations for which they will use crypto money but for me holding i prefer which means that we have no other option to make money and i don't want to spend my crypto on unnecessary things.

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December 14, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
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I see someone who is so faithful to cryptocurrency and would keep to his or her words i am so energized on same i am holding no matter what happens till the market recovers to sell off and make good profit thanks
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December 14, 2018, 02:32:21 PM
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Back in the early days, everyone used Bitcoin. To me, those were golden years.

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I rarely see or read something like this.  I hope other investors who's yelling bitcoin is dead will see this kind of perspective and benefits of crypto.  Keep it up. Smiley
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December 14, 2018, 05:31:01 PM
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that's good bro. you are a true holder, wait until it's accepted in all countries everyone will use crypto to transact and the price will definitely be high because everyone wants it

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December 14, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
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you right hodl your bitcoin to use, the current state of the cryptocurrency market should not frighten you as it is only temporary, we will see better days for bitcoin soon enough. Bitcoin has so much benefit than the centralized way of transactions. hodl your coins

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December 14, 2018, 07:14:28 PM
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I'm not against you holding bitcoin but I'm not of the opinion that one should put his or her entire savings in bitcoin. It is a big risk and it isn't worth taking.

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I think a good idea is we can do HOLD for a long time at a more stable price, so you also won't cut your losses.

Some people call themselves hodlers, when they are not sure that they will not sell their cryptocurrencies if tokens go to the Moon. Real hodlers can hold their tokens and Bitcoins for many years.
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December 16, 2018, 07:26:29 AM
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it is true not to be affected by the price which is currently being plummeted, all we have to do is keep the tokens that do have a reputation that can be said to be good, but the city must also be careful about the token information that we will hold today, have a reputation nice or not,
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it is true not to be affected by the price which is currently being plummeted, all we have to do is keep the tokens that do have a reputation that can be said to be good, but the city must also be careful about the token information that we will hold today, have a reputation nice or not,
It needs bravery, knowledge, skills, commitment, and passion when you engage in the world of Bitcoin. HODL can be one of the most applied strategies and may be effective but it's not how it works all the time. It needs proper planning and should take actions for its welfare. It's very important that we know what we are dealing with, we should stay updated and informed to be able to take the appropriate approach. I'm still hopeful that Bitcoin will continue to evolve and more will be educated and become aware of what this technology is all about.
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December 16, 2018, 08:34:39 AM
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I do not know what happened with you and the banks, but I have never had problems with the banks and I always have good relations with them. In general, I believe that such people as we want to constantly increase the price of any cryptocurrency because we are here to earn money and not to test cryptocurrency technologies, for this there are other people.
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December 16, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
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This is an interesting way of looking on tings, completely different perspective. To be honest, I never thought this way, I am always focusing on the investment potential BTC has, I am never looking at it as a simple payment method that can even be balanced with the USD. That is completely legit, to have 1btc for 1$. It is a bit misfortune because this way BTC will lose all his potential as an asset worth investing in. But it will still have a great benefit and block chain technology would still be used in the way it's supposed to be.  I wouldn't like this situation to become a reality but it would be interesting to see it.
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December 16, 2018, 09:43:29 AM
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Almost agree with you. But I want to say that in any case you will benefit from this. Bitcoin will grow in price very much. And since the fiat currency exists, you can buy much more for Bitcoin, because its price will increase over time.
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December 16, 2018, 10:16:27 AM
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Sell when price rises.  Buy when price drops.  Most people don't do this so they lose, lose, and lose again.

That is the secret to wealth.  Your welcome, carry on.

I am totally agree with you. Sell your bitcoin if you are contented to the current market price of cryptocurrency. Buying bitcoin when the price is low is a perfect timing for all of us because this time we could buy bitcoin as much as we want and when rises we could get back our profit. When you are in cryptocurrency it depends on you how you handle it to earn a big profit.

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December 16, 2018, 11:40:47 AM
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Banks never want us to grow our wealth but enriching themselve , and why rich are getting richer so they are not willing to let go , just hold and be proud of yourself for supporting the new era of technology.
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December 16, 2018, 01:40:47 PM
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from your thread, I know if you use cryptocurrency for payment, not for investment, so it's natural that you will hold bitcoin and use it. but someday you will think about the market price of cryptocurrency, when your bitcoin runs out and you will buy bitcoin again. so don't stop thinking about the crypto market.
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Your post is motivating us to HODL, really good timing, now that market is bloody red, Well everyone has a choice either use it for investment or just for payment, Bitcoin is a great use for monetization, I guess using bitcoin now can help the market to move, so constant support on this platform is the way to show our belief on the great future of BTC

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December 16, 2018, 03:01:37 PM
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Well i really appreciated, now HOLD is a best option instead of selling at cheap price and i am sure prices will rise but it will take time.
If we can afford then we should buy more at this price, i also heard that probably next bull run will be trigger bu amazon.
It will be good if amazon adopt bitcoin for payment then we can buy anything with bitcoin on amazon.  Smiley
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Yeah, the benefit of bitcoin is not confined only with money-making through trading. You can hodl it for future use, since it is heading to be the main payment method. Once it goes mainstream, it'll be beneficial to conduct commerce, which it is largely capable of now undoubtedly. So what are they afraid of about hodling BTC? No matter what its current price is now, there's no loss in hodling BTC. We'll all know someday when we get there.
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I also support author of this thread.
I would like to spent part of my income for bitcoin and hold for a long period.
Just each month to buy some part of bitcoin and do not touch at least 2-3 years.
well that would be a very good thing when you hold bitcoin only to use it in accordance with its benefits. when you use that, you might not even feel that holding back in a few years is quite easy. maybe this also applies to altcoins.
that's the commitment you have to hold when you intend to hold bitcoin. do not get affected by FUD and other things that might make you panic. don't care about falling prices. just focus on the future that will make you successfully to hold
Those that have made the most money out this market had a very strong commitment to bitcoin or to their cryptocurrency of choice, those that are only in the market to get money do not have that and even if they can make money if they take the right decisions they will never enjoy the same success as those that are convinced and have no doubts about their coins.

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December 16, 2018, 05:56:36 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

Yes every one is alarming to hold because of the humour that it gonna have the bullrun in the near future.So every one have savings can have the opportunity tohave the multiple price in the future.
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December 16, 2018, 05:58:23 PM
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The same ideas with me and I will hold my bitcoin and altcoin what ever how market and bitcoin price, I will open and sell when bitcoin or altcoin growing up when ever it happen and come true.
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I am 100% percent with you on the hodl. I will also hodl and invest more and sell when it is more profitable.

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I'm over the hodling stage, I just buy and use everytime now, thats what this is all meant for right?
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

I don't think this is the right way. It is still your money. If bitcoin would have a county where the money is stable and not volatile it can be an all 100% of my savings bet! But as of now, I think No. You need money because some government still do not acknowledge bitcoin. It will be best to let your ego down a bit for a while.
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That's a good idea, Bitcoin didn't just get to it ATH in a day but took some steps and likewise investments are not something you partake in and wait for huge return in two or three days but years. I'll also hodl my token till future ATH.

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Good idea holding is the way to go, am also in the boat of holding untill is get to that point when i will see it as a god time for me to sell.


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December 16, 2018, 09:46:27 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

You should care about the price. How can you buy something without minding the price of Bitcoin? You can spend it on a wider range of products if the price is high, value means a lot. Yes, blockchain transactions are more secured, your tokens/coins are also much secured (in terms of breaches and possible hacking) compared to banks, but the value is not secured. But the world is still on its way to the adoption of blockchain. The future value of bitcoin is not guaranteed but the adoption of blockchain technology will surely happen.
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December 17, 2018, 12:27:09 AM
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That's a good idea, Bitcoin didn't just get to it ATH in a day but took some steps and likewise investments are not something you partake in and wait for huge return in two or three days but years. I'll also hodl my token till future ATH.

Holding bitcoin as long term investment is good choice. We can not expect big profits in short term. I am believe bitcoin will be investor favorite because bitcoin have limited supply and its true bitcoin is store of value
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December 17, 2018, 02:44:41 AM
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if you wanna use you coin. i think holding at this time is a good idea
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December 17, 2018, 04:47:53 AM
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well good for you but i don't think you are doing the right thing by having "ALL" your savings in bitcoin. as long as humans were making investment, they were advised to diversify and also to invest what they can afford to lose not all their savings.
of course your strategy depends on your lifestyle but for an average person, specially the bread winner of the family doing something like that is reckless in my opinion. don't get me wrong i strongly believe in bitcoin's future and i have a large stake in it but i still keep fiat and also other assets as a safety net.

As much as I would agree that such is a good strategy to avoid losses and make profitable moves in the best time possible, I would also say that it has a downside. Due to many people opting to hold instead of make deals, with which I don't blame them, the market is lacking so much action and movement as compared before that really hampers how other coins grow, and also, Bitcoin itself is slowing down because of such strategy. I am just hoping that there will be other coins that will rise up in order to give life to the market.
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December 17, 2018, 07:03:52 AM
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I used to panic and sell my holdings at the rising of any rumour even though it's my loss.
But now I prefer to hold pending when market recovers instead of just selling at a loss....which causes more dumping from weak hands and makes for price tank and unstable market.
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December 17, 2018, 07:25:46 AM
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I agree with you, mate, just keep in bitcoin only amounts you can afford to risk/lose. Never exchange in another currency, all alternatives cryptocurrency prices gravitate on bitcoin price. Fact that bitcoin was once 20k+ means there are chances to be again at that price or maybe 5 times more like some experts claims. No matter how low the price goes keep them untill you get a profit if the price goes up. The same thing happened when the price exploded 2 years ago... the price was getting lower and lower and lower day by day people got scared they start to sell all they have and then the real criminals got rich overnight with the bubble.

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
So now you really hated banks thst bad huh?but its good or you since we have all that bitter feelings about what banks did to us and oir money for the long time before crypto come to life.the 0.40% per annum is the stupidities thing banks give to us.while in crypto we can just earn this in a blink of an eye if lucky and. IF NOT FOR SURE we can rn this for a week.
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December 17, 2018, 11:18:46 AM
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Well if we are losing out fucos because of the dip maybe we are end up to nothing we need to fucos and we need to concentrate because if we can't control our emotion maybe we can all lost our capital. Maybe we need to have a big patience for us to earn someday and we need to be more moderatien with regards to the price.
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December 17, 2018, 11:58:15 AM
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Emotional control is indeed a very important thing so that you do not act foolishly and do not lose the capital you have, patience in holding and good analysis will save you from losses
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December 17, 2018, 12:17:28 PM
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You should have learn this earlier than today,because banks abused our investments for a long tim,they have earned alot of amount just because of our money
Imagine that they can only give us 0.20-0.50% per annum but they can earn more than 100% from us.thts unfair and must be stopped
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December 17, 2018, 01:06:00 PM
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even i think the same , yes now the value of the coin is low i accept that but may in future it will increase.. trusting in bitcoin is like trusting in god once it will fall and once it will raise so i will hold my coin till the value of the coin increase...
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there will be ups and downs in market, i don't worry about  the market.
i hold because i know there will be rise in future.
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December 17, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
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Usually that is the mind set of a person that wait for the right time that the time will rise and than before, but still you need to take a risk if you want to earn btc
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December 17, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
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I think this is the only way for a small investor in this market to win. Unfortunately, those who do not hold unfortunately do not see the numbers they entered into the market. We'il wait patiently for whales to take their profits.
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December 17, 2018, 03:19:18 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

As much as I agree with your sentiments regarding the flaws of the fiat banking system, keeping all your funds in BTC or other crypto is a bad idea. You say you don't care if the price goes to 1 cent. If all your money is in BTC, I'd bet you would care quite a lot if you lost >99.999% of your net worth. Regardless of how "real" your 1 cent is, that's not going to pay your rent or buy your food.
I agree with you because of the volatile nature of Crypto Currencies it's kinda high-risk to store a huge amount of money in crypto's but it will be a different matter if it is stored in a stable coin like Tether/USDT because it is backed by real US dollars. Storing money and Investing money in Crypto Currencies are different because storing money is keeping its value to what it is when you stored it an Investing your money on Crypto Currencies will depend the value on the volatile movement of that particular crypto that you invested, you could gain with it or you could lose with it.

it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs.

Again, as much as I would like this to be the case, it simply isn't at the moment and won't be any time soon. As much as I would like to only use crypto, we have to use fiat for bills, food, gas, etc. Keeping a healthy exposure to crypto and various fiat investments is necessary for a secure future.
Definitely, Fiat is the main pair of Crypto Currencies such as Bitcoin and without fiat, I don't think how will Bitcoin or other crypto's have a value at all. A volatile currency should be paired with a stable currency to make a healthy market and lure traders from this kind of industry.
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December 18, 2018, 03:13:20 AM
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I do believe that bitcoin is a good investment for those who want to double or triple their money rather than putting it un a banks. The top cryptocurrency is currently experiencing price decline and it happening for almost a year now so you have to hodl patiently and wait for its recovery. Banks are still good for keeping your money and less riskythan cryptocurrencies so it is to keep some funds for emergency use rather than invest it all in bitcoin.
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Not a bad idea as you think make future investments and hold it for a long time, if look back the past record its prices go up and up i think it's good don't care just wait and hold than see.

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December 18, 2018, 05:29:52 AM
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Greatest motivation for keep holding your asset because its the best way for making your money is save, what for you have sell at lower price and you will lost your money, the best way is keep holding and wait until bitcoin could back to higher price.

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That enthusiasm is the best for cryptocurrency asset holders, no matter the declining market and most importantly to stay hodl and be patient to sell. If this is emphasized for crypto investors and holders, there is no panic selling when the market becomes red.

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December 18, 2018, 02:25:49 PM
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I respect your opinion but I disagree with you, I better sell the bitcoin that I have before the price touches $ 1, I will not bet my money just to hold the bitcoin and wait for the price to fall, but I am sure the bitcoin will not fall to $ 1
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Same here mate, I don't care how much value Bitcoin has as long as it can be used to pay for goods, services, bills or whatever  we need  because I personally know how convenient Bitcoin is when it comes to transactions. I don't trust banks or any centralized assets that is why I am here in this industry. I believe that Bitcoin has something that fiat money can't do which is to have financial freedom I know you knew it too.



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December 18, 2018, 05:05:57 PM
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that's good bro. you are a true holder, wait until it's accepted in all countries everyone will use crypto to transact and the price will definitely be high because everyone wants it

I do care about the market, and I think it is OK for the person, who has invested at least 50% of the money he had in the cryptocurrencies. meanwhile, I support the idea to be a holder now.
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December 18, 2018, 05:51:38 PM
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You can not feel in different to the market as it is the am in part of the cryptocurrency world and we need to follow its tendencies.
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Its a nice idea to hold bitcoin but I totally disagree with your opinion of holding even when the price is going to $1 its better to sell high and keep operating on blockchain than losing your funds. Is not a bad idea saving your assets on centralized system but I believe its more profitable when its kept in decentralized system so no need to discriminate one for other.
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December 18, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Same here mate, I don't care how much value Bitcoin has as long as it can be used to pay for goods, services, bills or whatever  we need  because I personally know how convenient Bitcoin is when it comes to transactions. I don't trust banks or any centralized assets that is why I am here in this industry. I believe that Bitcoin has something that fiat money can't do which is to have financial freedom I know you knew it too.
that's good, and it's your right to have such confidence, but my question is what guarantees the continuity of bitcoin? and do you really not care about the value? because I think the people involved in crypto are people who seek profit, not just looking for convenience. with many ico appearing, isn't that enough proof that they are looking for profit?
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December 18, 2018, 06:08:32 PM
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that's good bro. you are a true holder, wait until it's accepted in all countries everyone will use crypto to transact and the price will definitely be high because everyone wants it

I do care about the market, and I think it is OK for the person, who has invested at least 50% of the money he had in the cryptocurrencies. meanwhile, I support the idea to be a holder now.
Being a holder will give you more time to assess and see how things will go after some time, you will be able to make some assumptions and if you feel that you can deal with short term trading you can also try shorting while the market still on its bearish movement, you need to learn strategy that can be fit with the market and make things more positive while waiting for the actual bounce back.
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December 18, 2018, 06:18:32 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Same here mate, I don't care how much value Bitcoin has as long as it can be used to pay for goods, services, bills or whatever  we need  because I personally know how convenient Bitcoin is when it comes to transactions. I don't trust banks or any centralized assets that is why I am here in this industry. I believe that Bitcoin has something that fiat money can't do which is to have financial freedom I know you knew it too.
that's good, and it's your right to have such confidence, but my question is what guarantees the continuity of bitcoin? and do you really not care about the value? because I think the people involved in crypto are people who seek profit, not just looking for convenience. with many ico appearing, isn't that enough proof that they are looking for profit?
Every crypto user choose an option which benefits but very few feels to be branded investors but when the value is falling down its brand value is also gone so the popularity turns zero with new trend in the market so there should be some assurance how the flow will continue.
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December 18, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
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You should have learn this earlier than today,because banks abused our investments for a long tim,they have earned alot of amount just because of our money
Imagine that they can only give us 0.20-0.50% per annum but they can earn more than 100% from us.thts unfair and must be stopped
But before bitcoin we did not really had too many choices, the only alternative form of money besides fiat is gold and while gold is recognized all over the world as something valuable you cannot pay anything with gold since in many countries that is illegal, thanks to bitcoin we have the opportunity to buy stuff all over the world from our home with a currency not controlled by the government.

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December 18, 2018, 08:35:11 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.


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December 18, 2018, 08:37:34 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Sounds like an extreme step to take.
I'm sure most of us share the same sentiment about banks, yet few will be brave enough to completely change the quality of their life in order to create social change.
I wouldn't go as far as you but I greatly respect your position.

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December 18, 2018, 10:02:17 PM
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You are a true motivation to all those holding BTC.  Let us all learn from his commitment and perseverance,  he is so much determined to hold BTC even if the prices fall below expected values.  Let us hope for the best.

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December 18, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
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You are a true motivation to all those holding BTC.  Let us all learn from his commitment and perseverance,  he is so much determined to hold BTC even if the prices fall below expected values.  Let us hope for the best.
Agree with both of you, this is a very good mood. But for today, it is not convenient or profitable to use Bitcoin. I hope in the future everything will change.
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if you have the principle that will never sell the investment before you get the prifut i think you are good on that principle. and i think that it will give you a good result in the future.

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I also prefer to keep holding on when the market is in difficult conditions in 2018, and with time running crypto will grow again. But I'm not as brave as you who put all your savings into crypto.

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if you have the principle that will never sell the investment before you get the prifut i think you are good on that principle. and i think that it will give you a good result in the future.
I just do not see the point of selling an asset that has not reached its highs. This is the same as selling bitcoin for two pizzas)
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I think that the banking system is gradually becoming a thing of the past. Yes, it is convenient, but after so many years it has not become perfect. Therefore, it is time for bitcoin to reach a dominant position in the global economy.

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I don't think that we will see the moment when BTC will become dominate in the market in the near future. Regulations bring stability no matter how beneficial decentralisation and anonymity are.
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You need to have courage and patience and continue to hold bitcoin. This is much better than putting money in the Bank at interest. Such investments have long been outdated, and bitcoin has replaced. And I believe that we should support modern investment technologies.

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
This is quiet interesting to see a true believer of Bitcoin. I wish we had a lot of people like this in the Bitcoin ecosystem to help educate the world the relevance of using Bitcoin and blockchain technology. Bitcoin introduces users to the financial freedom where you can send funds to anybody at any part of the world with a peer to peer system that eliminates the third party system presented by the banking system.

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The future of one's success usually more determined by the morality of our own decisions and that we can start from now. In the face of the crypto market whose condition is getting more critical as it is today, more likely to lean towards things we don't expect than we expect. For those who are not strong enough to deal with it, they often end their investment and trade tragically namely by how to sell all of their BTC, and the worse they don't care even though the price of BTC falls, I think this action is like suicide.

All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

I'm happy to hear the words of someone who has very high spirits like you, hopefully what you say can arouse people's enthusiasm and be able to break their anxieties because of the falling BTC prices.

Hodl is not strategy even,noone can use it properly till today for getting profit. Markets also dont care about you and your positions. Such a small world...

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December 24, 2018, 10:34:38 PM
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I also prefer to keep holding on when the market is in difficult conditions in 2018, and with time running crypto will grow again. But I'm not as brave as you who put all your savings into crypto.

Holding a coin for long term is still good strategy to earn profit and I still prefer it also. The bearish market might have prolonged downtrend but it will not go down forever. Cryptocurrencies can't avoid its up and down cycle and there are many factors that affect their prices so you to find out first the ones with good quality that will give you profits in long term.

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Hodl is not strategy even,noone can use it properly till today for getting profit. Markets also dont care about you and your positions. Such a small world...

if hodl is not a strategy then what is it ?  every one who is involved in cryptos are always doing the hodl strategy becauase not all times  we can sell our coins at our desired price because most of the times the market is in a dump condition .

@op ,  yes that is the number one purpose on why cryptocurrency have been invented . we should primariliy use them for paying purposes and not for investing nor trading because they are verry risky and we cant take much in return due to their unstable state  .
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You can not feel in different to the market as it is the am in part of the cryptocurrency world and we need to follow its tendencies.

not acting to persuade someone to believe. all decisions are in everyone. The journey to make it big in the crypto space is often not smooth. There are challenges that we need to overcome. so we have to work hard to achieve success.

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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

just wait for bitcoin to get more and more adoption, then cheer up
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I don't really know what was your bad experienced. But I think you still did not get the whole concept of banks to enhance the capacity to help the community as long as they can with great and unique efforts and services. Anyway, let us not see it in a bias side. We know there are disadvantages and advantages in banks credibility but people were/are bounded to used banks due to cultural influence. I hope bitcoin would not come up to $1 for your investment.

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December 25, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
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I am still one of those positive guys that really believe on bitcoin, but i have already sold before.

I rebought when the price touched $3200, and i am still holding, that is the last strategy that i am going to do with bitcoins.

I will probably buy more if it ever drops below $3,000, which is highly possible.



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December 25, 2018, 11:12:29 AM
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You are a true motivation to all those holding BTC.  Let us all learn from his commitment and perseverance,  he is so much determined to hold BTC even if the prices fall below expected values.  Let us hope for the best.
Agree with both of you, this is a very good mood. But for today, it is not convenient or profitable to use Bitcoin. I hope in the future everything will change.
impressed you are a stubborn person, arent you ? You shouldn't hold when prices keep falling. unless you want to lose money? one of the things you can save your assets is to sell and not hold on for too long. because the price will continue to rotate anywhere
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Holding of crypto for a longer time is not advisable but if this is the kind of market that we are experiencing then ,we can understand others why they are holding it for some time and they would not mind what will happen to the market ,because for now ,we can not understand what really the reason for the long market falldown.

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if I still care about the current market situation bro. because I divided my assets into 2 parts.
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2. Short-term investment to make a profit. and the results I will use to meet my daily needs
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

I see what you did, you were describing cryptocurrency advantages over fiat currency in this thread. Cool
Well, that is true that there are some benefits we can get by using cryptocurrency.
The problom is some peoples only use crypto to gain quick profit, if there is no profit, then just dump the coins back to fiat currency.
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Well this is a one cryptocurrency enthusiast with a strong believe in the future of bitcoin but let's not make all our decision by just hope or believe accepts it's a calculated one

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Yes,  even I do the same.. I know now the value of the Bitcoin is low but I won't care for it and I will hold it for the future use this would be great idea 
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This is the most perfect time to buy cryptocurrency because the market price are so cheap and I'm sure bitcoin hasn't reach its bottom yet so we might witness more drop in price ,I make up my mind to keep buying and holding cos its just the best way to maximize my profit ,the future looks brighter for cryptocurrency

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Today's hold is held by many people because most people buy at a price of around $ 10k from the BTC price in the hope that next year Bitcoin will recover, I prefer to play altcoin now to get a quick profit for short-term play because the market easily changes quickly


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December 26, 2018, 05:39:07 PM
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2018 has been a very dicey year for all crypto enthusiasts, there were a lot of ups and downs with how the market crypto was. There were a lot of lessons to be learnt going forward due to the many experiences this year brought. Am also sticking to the hodl approach and hoping for the best.
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People have already understand that holding is the best and last way to save the investment because big investors are waiting for selling at the low level and want to hold that investment. So, do not sell your coin at very low price and keep safe in the wallet.

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December 26, 2018, 05:47:23 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
If you have guts to hold your bitcoin in a long time, then you should not withdraw it. I also prefer to store my money in bitcoins than in banks because I now that I can beat inflation through storing my money on bitcoins than in bank.

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December 26, 2018, 06:00:58 PM
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Well this is so called the height of confidence. As a lot of investors have already planned for long-term investment and secured for future generations, people who believe in this are Still making money .

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righteous OP, but you’re putting too many eggs in one basket
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HODL shouldn't be something that is indefinite. If you plan to wait to use your bitcoin then what will happen if that never becomes a possibility? You're better off using it now and helping bitcoin to grow in its relative infancy. We may never see the days when 1 btc can buy you the world.

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I absolutely agree with the author of this topic. I managed to earn more than$ 160,000 in cryptocurrency and bitcoins in a year and a half, and I will never invest in banks, only offshore or Swiss)

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I admire your confidence but I wouldn't put all my savings in crypto, like it or not, anything can happen and if it's for the bad it will be terrible.

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My rule: Never put more than 25% of your holding in the same investment area.

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Hodling your cryptocurrency is good specially if it is bitcoin because bitcoin has a very high volatility when it comes to its price. You can also try investing your money to other kind of business so that it will not only grow with crypto but to other business too.

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My rule: Never put more than 25% of your holding in the same investment area.

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December 26, 2018, 09:33:57 PM
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This is what I call belief in BTC
This is the last line of defense
We must have all of them and we must publish this idea
This is never inconsistent with speculation
Trade Currency as you like
But in big crises you have to show your belief in the BTC to protect it.
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December 26, 2018, 10:47:17 PM
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And with patience you will definitely see light at the end of the tunnel. Many will come and make all sort of noise in order to  get panic and sell out your fortunes but it will take the true crypto guy to continue holding. Never get worried of  the current situation, will never remain like this.

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December 27, 2018, 12:44:12 AM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.

I think, its better not to put all our money in bitcoin. Bitcoin price very high fluctuating and we should diversify our investment in several instrument. Property, stocks, bonds is another choice beside bitcoin and better invest with money we can afford to lose

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December 27, 2018, 01:00:53 AM
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cut loss is useless, because it is tantamount to giving up and willing to get a loss. the right thing is to keep hodl and wait for the green market again.
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December 27, 2018, 01:36:30 AM
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I really admire what is your decision, indeed we should always be loyal in supporting the development of cryptocurrency, either through investment, or as a transaction tool in everyday life. At the moment, you will surely be happy with what is your decision on crypto, because I believe that crypto prices will not forever go down, and surely there will be times when prices will rise again and be able to give us big profits.
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I think, its better not to put all our money in bitcoin. Bitcoin price very high fluctuating and we should diversify our investment in several instrument. Property, stocks, bonds is another choice beside bitcoin and better invest with money we can afford to lose

Verry well said  .  putting your eggs in one basket is not a good idea ( as the saying said )  but if you are doing it in bitcoin , i guess there is nothing wrong it it  because bitcoin is a guarantee that can give you a huge return as long as you have a patience to wait .

Stable investments ( that you mentioned above ) were also nice alternative to get a constant profit when btc is not yet in a good condition .

Laslty , investing only what we can afford is the most golden rule and should not be ignored above all .
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December 27, 2018, 04:03:08 AM
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I also don't care about the market conditions. because I always have principles. long-term investment to build a better future than now. and short-term investments to earn income to meet their daily needs
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December 27, 2018, 04:10:40 AM
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You are very free about what happens in the future, this attitude is very rare for someone, and even almost everyone will not be willing if the bitcoin becomes 1 cent price
humans like this must be imitated, because we also have to have a free mindset, and avoid the fear that exists
we must not be afraid of the future of bitcoin, whether we want to be destroyed or victorious, we must accept, because everything will be fine
good luck guys
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December 27, 2018, 04:17:47 AM
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That is what you should do in this kind of market. Selling will only give you losses. As for me it will be get profit or get bankrupt. I still believe that someday new investor will invest in Bitcoin because of the features that Bitcoin can give to users when it comes to trading and online selling. People come and go in this industry that is why i believe patience will be the key in this kind of investment.
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December 27, 2018, 05:15:33 AM
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That would be an attitude that whales would love to do for the investors. As they can do more trading without having some difficulties on the market price movements because it will not create smaller fluctuations and this will help them also to have a huge profit when trading will done. Whales are expert and professionals on trading and earning much through the investors money.
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December 27, 2018, 05:20:15 AM
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maybe holding back to use is a pretty good way to make a profit. Having a coin that has a function according to your needs will certainly be profitable. well, but sometimes we can't get away from the market in this case.
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December 27, 2018, 05:24:14 AM
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Maybe avoiding inflation is the most obvious reason. I support your choice, there will come a time when bitcoin or other cryptocurrency will become a legitimate payment tool and recognized throughout the world.

Saving by buying bitcoin is a wise choice. There will be no word of loss if you do not sell it when the price reaches a low level.

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December 27, 2018, 05:39:43 AM
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I am very happy to read your posts, only a small percentage of people who have bitcoin can think like you. many people hold it back and sell it for profit only. not hold it because they will use it for their financial transactions.
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December 27, 2018, 06:34:33 AM
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In reality very difficult to trust somebody to hold your assets whether in the form of banks or people. The basis of your decision seems like you know things better than the other. I will never be happy to see you in regrets in the future. Advice don't neglect some of the basic rules in investment to minimize such uncontainable loses. Anyway, stick to what you think the best way for your own sake.

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December 27, 2018, 06:58:08 AM
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That is really good for the bitcoin and its future,how many of you here can hold their bitcoin even if the prices went to $1?

I am also like to spend my bitcoin but not sure how long I can hold when the prices are falling but not to the prices of $1,maybe I will pick another coins if that can hold its position.









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December 27, 2018, 08:12:23 AM
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An adage says" it's easier said than done".
The question remains, what investor or trader can actually holdput to their btc when the price hits $1?
I am sure many people will panic dump once they see the price tanking continuously.
But I can understand what it feels to not being able to lay hold of your money from your bank account because of the delays from banks.
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You are right to do this. The current market will be you upset. I have not checked the market price for a long time. When I check the market, I always see the red market, which will only aggravate our panic. In fact, forgetting it for a while may be a good practice.

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December 27, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
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Now you can buy even houses and cars with Bitcoin, so yes, if you have lots of it just stack it up nicely and use wherever you want to use it. I am looking to get a Wirex card so I can get cash back at least on my grocery shopping. I can't afford anything else to buy with Bitcoin at the minute, but even that, to be able to live on the Blockchain would be a good testament to believing in decentralization. It's great to be able to use Bitcoin and what I should have done at ATH was take the Bitcoin I had and spent it, not let it died in price with the altcoins. I regret a lot of bad decisions I made but will try hard to make it all back again one day and make things better. Let's see if I can do it.


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December 27, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
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maybe you have a point but it must be rethought to take action, some investors for bitcoin might agree with you to hold until the price improves and I also agree with you. hopefully bitcoin will return to its original path as soon as possible.
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I am very happy to read your posts, only a small percentage of people who have bitcoin can think like you. many people hold it back and sell it for profit only. not hold it because they will use it for their financial transactions.
- I don't understand why we need to hold it to use for financial transactions, it is not necessary and does not bring the greatest benefit to investors or traders, you should also understand it clearly. People here and focusing on bitcoin, most of them just want to make a profit from bitcoin through buying and selling, accumulating, they are not interested in any great technology or thing that bitcoin can create now or in the future, so every time the value of bitcoin falls, it's really a fear for many people, they're investing money in it, they really care about the market, holding bitcoin to use for other activities is inconsistent with their intentions


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December 27, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

I will NEVER return my money into a bank. I have no any intention to ask 3 to 5 days before a large cash-out, to pay taxes when I do receive MY money into "my" bank account, to pay taxes to STORE MY money in "my" bank account, to pay taxes to use their terrible internet banking to operate with MY money, to pay additional taxes for various transactions, to pay ridiculous fees for every paypal transaction and/or withdrawal, to wait a week for approval on a large transactions..

I have no any intention to get surprised one day with a bank account locked without notice; with transaction blocked by some reason, with funds frozen because some someone decided the origin is "unclear"..

NEVER AGAIN!

I do not care if the price of BTC goes to $1 or ¢1, it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs. Untill that day comes I will never return MY money into a bank! If all I have become to a value of ¢1, it`s fine! I will have MY ¢1 FOR REAL, instead of unclear value is someone else`s bank system, created in order fiat owners to make more fiat only because they already have fiat.
Totally agree with this statement I don't care what is the price of bitcoin for now, I don't care if the value of it became dump because for me every dump is  an opportunity to buy and hold it until the value of the coin would increase, if you mind the price for now the result would became depression like the people who buy in the high range of it so better to wait until the right time would happen again.
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December 27, 2018, 01:50:46 PM
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for now I don't do anything I wait more and see the cryptocurrency market conditions, because in my opinion it's too risky to enter the market because the market conditions are not good, I don't dare to risk money on bitcoin because the risk of loss is very high, right now I prefer holding fiat money while waiting for market conditions to recover

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December 27, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
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In choosing a decision, we need to consider everything. For markets that are still in poor condition, it is better to remain a holder and do not sell low because it will be a loss and regret in the future.

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December 27, 2018, 04:44:56 PM
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I think that's the end we should look for here, many seek to gain great wealth in the market, or have enough to retire from their job, but bitcoin was never designed for that, the only really good thing about btc is the use we will give it and we are giving it right now.

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December 28, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
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This is the most perfect time to buy cryptocurrency because the market price are so cheap and I'm sure bitcoin hasn't reach its bottom yet so we might witness more drop in price ,I make up my mind to keep buying and holding cos its just the best way to maximize my profit ,the future looks brighter for cryptocurrency
It is the perfect time to buy bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but many are not seeing it that way, what they are seeing is that the price is still going down and many are giving up and are selling their coins when they should be holding them or buying them and you can be sure that those people that are saying that now are going to claim that the market was manipulated and that is why they sold.
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December 28, 2018, 07:04:37 PM
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This is the most perfect time to buy cryptocurrency because the market price are so cheap and I'm sure bitcoin hasn't reach its bottom yet so we might witness more drop in price ,I make up my mind to keep buying and holding cos its just the best way to maximize my profit ,the future looks brighter for cryptocurrency
It is the perfect time to buy bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but many are not seeing it that way, what they are seeing is that the price is still going down and many are giving up and are selling their coins when they should be holding them or buying them and you can be sure that those people that are saying that now are going to claim that the market was manipulated and that is why they sold.
yes, indeed not a few think so, so they are afraid to enter. they are still worried that if prices continue to fall, if everyone can escape from fear, of course the market will return to crowded so prices can rise soon. so now we hope that everyone will soon realize that fear has no meaning or they will regret just being a spectator
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December 28, 2018, 10:20:46 PM
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well i too dont care about the market. i invested in bitcoin not because of the profit and loss but because of the unique ideology and what it has to offer to the world. bitcoin is what the world has been waiting for and will surely change so many things with time
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December 31, 2018, 02:08:45 PM
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Wow! That is the spirit and I wish that many people or investors should do that.
Many of them feel bothered because of what happen this year 2018 abd we should look also the bright side since there is a new year that will shine.
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January 01, 2019, 01:51:39 AM
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This is the most perfect time to buy cryptocurrency because the market price are so cheap and I'm sure bitcoin hasn't reach its bottom yet so we might witness more drop in price ,I make up my mind to keep buying and holding cos its just the best way to maximize my profit ,the future looks brighter for cryptocurrency
It is the perfect time to buy bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but many are not seeing it that way, what they are seeing is that the price is still going down and many are giving up and are selling their coins when they should be holding them or buying them and you can be sure that those people that are saying that now are going to claim that the market was manipulated and that is why they sold.
yes, indeed not a few think so, so they are afraid to enter. they are still worried that if prices continue to fall, if everyone can escape from fear, of course the market will return to crowded so prices can rise soon. so now we hope that everyone will soon realize that fear has no meaning or they will regret just being a spectator
As we know, people won't panic if something positive comes up, like good news about crypto, legalization of bitcoin, and so on. so that it will create confidence and courage to re-buy bitcoin on the market, before that exists, then users will continue to hesitate and be afraid to re-enter..
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January 01, 2019, 04:59:55 AM
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That's the spirit as a true crypto believer and i admire for doing that because bitcoin will become big in the years to come, you will reap your rewards in the long run and you will definitely don't need to use bank again because block chain technology is far more advanced compare to banks.

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January 01, 2019, 08:17:39 AM
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yes it is good, of course, because later you will also feel the impact on your
own in the future from the results of patience that is lived
of course this will be very good when prices have returned to high prices. well, many people think that the price of bitcoin will recover in 2019, so it's better to hold back to use it will get better, because it makes us unaware of the price.
Better hold and used bitcoin at the same time. That way bitcoin will be gain it trust again. That might push bitcoin up again as it frequently being used in daily life again.
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yes it is good, of course, because later you will also feel the impact on your
own in the future from the results of patience that is lived
of course this will be very good when prices have returned to high prices. well, many people think that the price of bitcoin will recover in 2019, so it's better to hold back to use it will get better, because it makes us unaware of the price.

Yes it is good that don't care about the market but we have to be cautious and be updated on the crypto market. HODL is the best option to stay away from loss but it will frustrate the people because of waiting for longer term. Most people and investors are waiting for the good time to come in upcoming months for the market to turn green again. So just HODL and be calm.

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January 01, 2019, 12:23:37 PM
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Everyone has a choice, so if you choose to hold your money in the crypto world even the price is not good and wait the right time to use it, that the right decision because  you can make more money by just holding it in the crypto world.

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January 01, 2019, 12:27:01 PM
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All my savings are currently in BTC and all I can safe in future will go into BTC as well.

As much as I agree with your sentiments regarding the flaws of the fiat banking system, keeping all your funds in BTC or other crypto is a bad idea. You say you don't care if the price goes to 1 cent. If all your money is in BTC, I'd bet you would care quite a lot if you lost >99.999% of your net worth. Regardless of how "real" your 1 cent is, that's not going to pay your rent or buy your food.


it`s enough if I will be able to operate with it for every single purchase and for all of my needs.

Again, as much as I would like this to be the case, it simply isn't at the moment and won't be any time soon. As much as I would like to only use crypto, we have to use fiat for bills, food, gas, etc. Keeping a healthy exposure to crypto and various fiat investments is necessary for a secure future.
I agree with you, my market price has no important issues. HODL, until the right time, we sell good prices. I think that is the best way I do now.
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January 01, 2019, 12:59:13 PM
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yes it is good, of course, because later you will also feel the impact on your
own in the future from the results of patience that is lived
the same I do not care at all with the market and I am HODL I am rather confused and confused later when the right time I sell does not lose because I patiently wait at the right time
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