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[lovesmayfamilis]

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Well, if you take upon yourself the right to judge and talk about the judgments of a stranger, why shouldn't others do this? My first tilde was in relation to you about the fact that you could not explain your red tags to the bounty hunter.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286672.msg55519901#msg55519901
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286672.msg55520329#msg55520329
 And second, yes, you are too categorical and demanding of many.  Well, I don't believe you. There is something two-faced. And if the first time I thought I was wrong, today I was convinced that I was right.

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[nutildah]

You've listed the users he is "trusted by" -- not users he has trusted (added to his trust list). So if you want to judge the judgment of this person then you'll need to do it by something else... preferably his own trust list or trust ratings.

I thought it was pretty obvious that it was about "sockpuppets" since I only posted part of the bbcode. In addition, I did not say that the presented list "Trusted by" reflects my opinion in matters of judgment, the last sentence ^[cursive] is a kind of additional comment based on personal observations.

I didn't find it obvious, possibly because you said your complaint "is related to the judgment of this person" and then proceeded to list users who trust this user, which isn't necessarily indicative of Bubbalex's ability to use the trust system.

As far as the sockpuppeting allegations are concerned, did you ever follow up with Loyce's advice last time around?

If someone got voted into DT1 by using sockpuppets, you should open a topic with evidence in Meta.

[Vod]

We went from 150 eligible users last month to 151 this month.  That shows our (lack of) tolerance for trust padding is having a positive effect.

[airfinex]

We have a new DT1 MoxnatyShmel, in the Russian locale, which left this tag:

Some users may not update their trust list for years.  The review you are linking to is not backed up by a link, and the tag should be changed to neutral. The first thing you need to do is write to him in a PM and then here, remember to tell him to revise his trust list.

Perhaps someone will delve into the proofs that you provided, but you did not mention that you have a red tag from LVLF and MoxnatyShmel. Since they at DT, everyone sees these feedback, and since LVLF and MoxnatyShmel now have a federated model against you, therefore it worries you so much. You Too, left LVLF an unjustified red tag in the form of retribution for his red tag, and it seems that all your reviews come down to insults.

[Vod]

We have a new DT1 MoxnatyShmel, in the Russian locale, which left this tag:

Some users may not update their trust list for years.  The review you are linking to is not backed up by a link, and the tag should be changed to neutral. The first thing you need to do is write to him in a PM and then here, remember to tell him to revise his trust list.

Perhaps someone will delve into the proofs that you provided, but you did not mention that you have a red tag from LVLF and MoxnatyShmel. Since they at DT, everyone sees these feedback, and since LVLF and MoxnatyShmel now have a federated model against you, therefore it worries you so much. You Too, left LVLF an unjustified red tag in the form of retribution for his red tag, and it seems that all your reviews come down to insults.

Good summary of why you don't throw stones - they get bigger until someone gets hurt.

This Meta area should talk about how the DT system works - topics related to who deserves to be in DT should be kept to the reputation section.

[LoyceV]

Theymos reshuffled DT1 last night.

Removed:
     1. Legendary dooglus (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (308 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Donator CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (47 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (326 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary A-Bolt (Trust: neutral) (519 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary fronti (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (215 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Global Moderator mprep (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (807 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary peloso (Trust: +2 / =3 / -5) (179 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (919 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary TookDk (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (54 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Copper Member Mitchell (Trust: +42 / =1 / -0) (564 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary figmentofmyass (Trust: +0 / =0 / -7) (979 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary Buchi-88 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (433 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary Lesbian Cow (Trust: +54 / =0 / -0) (696 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary JayJuanGee (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2618 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary dazedfool (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (126 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary tmfp (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (723 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary Royse777 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1235 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary o_solo_miner (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (254 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary SyGambler (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (753 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Copper Member actmyname (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (1293 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary The Pharmacist (Trust: +27 / =3 / -0) (2826 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Copper Member LeGaulois (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (1495 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Legendary TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -1) (846 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary eddie13 (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (1169 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Copper Member bL4nkcode (Trust: +15 / =2 / -0) (664 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Legendary Vispilio (Trust: +1 / =3 / -3) (1044 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Hero Member wolwoo (Trust: +0 / =3 / -3) (657 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Legendary JollyGood (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (820 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Legendary KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (920 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Legendary o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (5566 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. Copper Member logfiles (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (901 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. Legendary coinlocket$ (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (1337 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. Legendary asche (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (1436 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. Legendary DdmrDdmr (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (4691 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. Sr. Member Hellmouth42 (Trust: neutral) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. Legendary Husna QA (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1501 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. Legendary madnessteat (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1142 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. Copper Member TalkStar (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (691 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. Hero Member efialtis (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (1165 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. Hero Member Ratimov (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (3156 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Administrator theymos (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (7072 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Staff gmaxwell (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (3909 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Donator OgNasty (Trust: +71 / =4 / -5) (1142 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary SebastianJu (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (71 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Donator qwk (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (1888 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary Vod (Trust: +32 / =1 / -1) (1870 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary Anduck (Trust: +19 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Staff Welsh (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1145 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary Timelord2067 (Trust: +9 / =7 / -1) (572 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Staff EFS (Trust: +9 / =1 / -1) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary yogg (Trust: +37 / =0 / -0) (1743 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary hedgy73 (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (74 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Global Moderator hilariousandco (Trust: +22 / =2 / -0) (908 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary Avirunes (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (392 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Staff sapta (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (197 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary yahoo62278 (Trust: +25 / =2 / -0) (1577 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary zazarb (Trust: +39 / =1 / -0) (503 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary bill gator (Trust: +16 / =3 / -8) (556 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Legendary LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (3193 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary klarki (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (275 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Legendary SFR10 (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (606 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Legendary johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =1 / -2) (874 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Hero Member Kryptowerk (Trust: +37 / =0 / -0) (599 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Copper Member nullius (Trust: +5 / =4 / -1) (2124 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Hero Member RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (407 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Legendary Steamtyme (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (1823 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Legendary GreatArkansas (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1008 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Hero Member vycl87 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -3) (619 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Sr. Member Agrawas (Trust: +43 / =0 / -0) (440 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. Legendary TheBeardedBaby (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (2257 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. Legendary tvplus006 (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (1393 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. Sr. Member MoxnatyShmel (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (352 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. Legendary dkbit98 (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (1464 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. Legendary witcher_sense (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (1692 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. Legendary anonymousminer (Trust: +40 / =0 / -0) (1096 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. Legendary taikuri13 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1443 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. Legendary Coolcryptovator (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (1605 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. Legendary 1miau (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (2891 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. Hero Member YOSHIE (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (834 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[LVL F]

We have a new DT1 MoxnatyShmel, in the Russian locale, which left this tag:

Some users may not update their trust list for years.  The review you are linking to is not backed up by a link, and the tag should be changed to neutral. The first thing you need to do is write to him in a PM and then here, remember to tell him to revise his trust list.

Perhaps someone will delve into the proofs that you provided, but you did not mention that you have a red tag from LVLF and MoxnatyShmel. Since they at DT, everyone sees these feedback, and since LVLF and MoxnatyShmel now have a federated model against you, therefore it worries you so much. You Too, left LVLF an unjustified red tag in the form of retribution for his red tag, and it seems that all your reviews come down to insults.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg55899693#msg55899693

[LoyceV]

why some DT1 members feedbacks appears in Untrusted feedback list? nullius is DT1 his feedbback appears in untrusted feedback

See Default trust breakdown: some DT1-members (such as nullius have more exclusions than inclusions from other DT1-members.
Or see Is Nullius still on DT?

You should create your own custom Trust list if you want to see feedback from certain people. See LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

[LoyceV]

Theymos reshuffled DT1.

Removed:
     1. Staff HostFat (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Staff gmaxwell (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (3935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Donator qwk (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (1915 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary Anduck (Trust: +18 / =2 / -1) (70 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary Dabs (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (560 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary babo (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (1038 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Staff Welsh (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1148 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary Timelord2067 (Trust: +11 / =7 / -0) (587 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary jeremypwr (Trust: +18 / =2 / -0) (667 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Staff EFS (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary hedgy73 (Trust: +22 / =0 / -0) (74 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary owlcatz (Trust: +50 / =0 / -0) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Staff sapta (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (197 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary yahoo62278 (Trust: +23 / =2 / -0) (1580 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary bill gator (Trust: +14 / =3 / -7) (556 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary klarki (Trust: neutral) (279 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary LoyceV (Trust: +31 / =2 / -0) (6554 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary TryNinja (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (2665 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Legendary bob123 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (2064 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (882 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Hero Member ekiller (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (458 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Hero Member Coin_trader (Trust: +6 / =3 / -0) (157 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Sr. Member polymerbit (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (379 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Legendary Yatsan (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (687 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Hero Member finaleshot2016 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (819 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Legendary xtraelv (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1701 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Copper Member crwth (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (715 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Legendary webtricks (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (1276 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Hero Member Ale88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (329 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. Copper Member nullius (Trust: +5 / =4 / -1) (2137 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. Hero Member imhoneer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (548 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. Hero Member vycl87 (Trust: +1 / =2 / -2) (620 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. Legendary joniboini (Trust: neutral) (1475 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. Sr. Member Agrawas (Trust: +39 / =0 / -0) (440 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. Legendary witcher_sense (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (1717 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. Legendary cabalism13 (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (1093 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. Legendary anonymousminer (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (1113 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. Legendary fillippone (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (5037 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. Legendary taikuri13 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1457 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    41. Copper Member Corrosive (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (1084 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Legendary dooglus (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (308 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Donator CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (48 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Staff malevolent (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (511 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary A-Bolt (Trust: neutral) (542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary fronti (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (220 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary philipma1957 (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (2074 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary peloso (Trust: +2 / =3 / -5) (181 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (926 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Copper Member Mitchell (Trust: +46 / =1 / -0) (582 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Sr. Member Ticked (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (209 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary by rallier (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (330 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary EcuaMobi (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (438 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary JayJuanGee (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2702 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary DaveF (Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (1221 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary Royse777 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1242 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary o_solo_miner (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (264 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary ezeminer (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (113 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Copper Member actmyname (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (1310 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary The Pharmacist (Trust: +27 / =3 / -0) (2848 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Copper Member LeGaulois (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (1555 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary DarkStar_ (Trust: +54 / =2 / -0) (1541 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Legendary eddie13 (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (1200 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Copper Member bL4nkcode (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (669 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary Lafu (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (1241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Legendary Vispilio (Trust: +4 / =3 / -2) (1050 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Hero Member wolwoo (Trust: +0 / =3 / -2) (657 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Legendary JollyGood (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (834 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Legendary roycilik (Trust: +11 / =2 / -0) (1542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Legendary CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (1735 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Sr. Member icopress (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (559 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. Legendary Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1488 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. Legendary o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (5674 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. Sr. Member 3meek (Trust: neutral) (258 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. Copper Member logfiles (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (911 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. Hero Member MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (799 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. Legendary DdmrDdmr (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (4768 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. Legendary morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1543 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. Legendary Husna QA (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1511 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. Legendary madnessteat (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1155 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    40. Hero Member efialtis (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (1168 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    41. Hero Member Ratimov (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (3229 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Disclaimer: Trust scores are 5 days old and based on the former DT1-distribution.

[LoyceV]

In my Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings, this user popped up:

   505. 2992162: This user's information will be added next week. Until then, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2992162;dt

It's a Brand new account with no posts (tomashb) that sent this feedback:

And indeed, DT1-member MoparMiningLLC added this Brand new user to DT2. I consider this inappropriate use of the Trust system, and Trust Selfscratching.
Note that this Trust inclusion doesn't show up in my Trust list viewer, because users without any posts aren't included in theymos' weekly Trust data dump.

[MoparMiningLLC]

In my Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings, this user popped up:

   505. 2992162: This user's information will be added next week. Until then, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2992162;dt

It's a Brand new account with no posts (tomashb) that sent this feedback:

And indeed, DT1-member MoparMiningLLC added this Brand new user to DT2. I consider this inappropriate use of the Trust system, and Trust Selfscratching.
Note that this Trust inclusion doesn't show up in my Trust list viewer, because users without any posts aren't included in theymos' weekly Trust data dump.

I escrowed some deals for the member - is that an issue? I was under the impression that trust lists were managed by each user. If the user gives anyone a reason to not trust them and they present the case and/or the user gives me an issue to not trust them, I will remove them.

[Upgrade00]

I escrowed some deals for the member - is that an issue?

Trust lists means you trust a users judgement and ability to give out feedbacks, escrowing a deal for a user of itself would likely not reveal that they are fit to be in default trust. Of course you could know the user personally beyond what is made public on the forum and have a good reason for adding them.

I was under the impression that trust lists were managed by each user.

True, your trust list is personal and usually only visible to you. Except of course you are on DT, then your trust list determines which users feedback counts (is shown by default) and which doesn't.

[Steamtyme]

I was under the impression that trust lists were managed by each user. If the user gives anyone a reason to not trust them and they present the case and/or the user gives me an issue to not trust them, I will remove them.

You are correct. People added to your trust list is definitely up to you. It's all about trusting their judgement, generally in relation to feedback they leave or stances they take on the forum. Leaving them positive feedback would make more sense in having escrowed multiple deals for them and them having been responsible and truthful.

Again you can add whoever you want but the purpose of a custom trust list is to make their useful feedback visible to you, and by extension users of Default trust when you are DT1. So when their only feedback is a positive left for yourself it can appear you're padding your trust score. That's just the optics of it.

Either way, as always with trust lists and feedback. Do what works for you, others will do what works for them.

[MoparMiningLLC]

exactly - except now I am getting posted about for it - getting pm's as if I have violated a rule. Make it simple - will remove the guy until someone who is someone actually trusts the guy too, then I will readd him.

edit - removed. anyone else I need to remove?

[airfinex]

anyone else I need to remove?

Trust list for: Steeley (Trust: awaiting update) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-03-06_Sat_04.07h)
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Steeley Trusts these users' judgement:
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Steeley Distrusts these users' judgement:
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Steeley's judgement is Trusted by:
1. NEW MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +34 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 805 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Steeley's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
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[The Sceptical Chymist]

exactly - except now I am getting posted about for it - getting pm's as if I have violated a rule. Make it simple - will remove the guy until someone who is someone actually trusts the guy too, then I will readd him.

edit - removed. anyone else I need to remove?

I think the main point is that since you're on DT you have a responsibility to be extremely conservative about who you put in your trust list and who you give positive feedback to, because someone could easily misuse both a position on DT and/or a green trust. 

Jeez, things used to be so much simpler (and better IMO) when it was extremely hard to even get on DT2.  The first time I made the list, I recall hilariousandco or Lauda created a thread just to discuss some potential new DT2 additions. 

Now it's like a free-for-all and it seems like it doesn't mean much to be a DT member anymore.  But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful about maintaining your trust list if you are on DT.

[Steamtyme]

Jeez, things used to be so much simpler (and better IMO) when it was extremely hard to even get on DT2.  The first time I made the list, I recall hilariousandco or Lauda created a thread just to discuss some potential new DT2 additions. 
Now it's like a free-for-all and it seems like it doesn't mean much to be a DT member anymore.  But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful about maintaining your trust list if you are on DT.

Not going to lie that old system was a shit show. People were so entrenched in certain camps, non DT's actually had to be exercise some caution at times when expressing their views. The fact that retaliatory or negating trust feedbacks were a thing and even necessary was so far beyond fucked up it was gross.

This system isn't perfect but it actually allows everyone to participate, and potentially be included if overall they are within acceptable practices governed by the community.

exactly - except now I am getting posted about for it - getting pm's as if I have violated a rule. Make it simple - will remove the guy until someone who is someone actually trusts the guy too, then I will readd him.

edit - removed. anyone else I need to remove?

I know it can be confusing and there is sometimes a disconnect to some extent between collectibles/marketplace and the rest of the forum about how it can be used. Personally my advice is re-add them when you've seen them interact with other individuals in trades, or in leaving appropriate feedback. In the meantime positive or neutral feedback depending on your threshold are 100% appropriate for someone you've done business with. This will also only come up when you are a DT1 member, as it does gran people in your list a role of some significance. Have a good one

[MoparMiningLLC]

problem solved - everyone removed from my personal list - I don't have time for the drama that stupid shit like this causes.

[eddie13]

problem solved - everyone removed from my personal list - I don't have time for the drama that stupid shit like this causes.

Or you could have just said, “Fork off, I like him.”..



“Extremely conservative”? Lol
Look at the pages full of positive trust for “scambusting” and “alt hunting” without a single trade..

Idk about you, but I’d trust high value collectibles traders much more with “trades”, than a bunch of newbs just out to accomplish......what exactly?

[MoparMiningLLC]

problem solved - everyone removed from my personal list - I don't have time for the drama that stupid shit like this causes.

Or you could have just said, “Fork off, I like him.”..



“Extremely conservative”? Lol
Look at the pages full of positive trust for “scambusting” and “alt hunting” without a single trade..

Idk about you, but I’d trust high value collectibles traders much more with “trades”, than a bunch of newbs just out to accomplish......what exactly?

yea I tried that - all I got was more DM's - I just turned em all off. In the end it was more for me to remember who I had positive dealings with - it was not done to affect anyone else. but apparently it does so meh - just remove it. Now watch me get blasted for not having someone listed...