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July 10, 2021, 03:06:11 PM
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Australia lost the first T20 match to West Indies by 18 runs. And this is despite the fact that they had restricted West Indies to a total of 145/6. T20 is not the strongest format for Australia, and it was obvious during the chase.
Without the T20 specialist like David Warner, Glenn Maxwell and Marcus Stoinis and a few players are missing from the squad and you can expect when they play as the pressure might get to the players and that is what happend in this match as their shot selection was poor and ended up loosing all the wickets.

On top of that, their specialist batsmen such as Glen Maxwell and David Warner were not available. Matthew Wade and Mitchell Marsh gave them a good start, but it was not enough. Australia lost their last 5 wickets for just 10 runs. At one point, they needed just 29 to win from 7.4 overs with 5 wickets in hand. 
Many would have lost their bets, in T20 and ODI or even in the Test format getting 29 runs from 7.4 overs with 5 wickets in hand is a chaseable score and many would have placed a bet on Australia and ended up loosing and full credit goes to McCoy for his incredible spell of bowling.
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July 10, 2021, 03:25:43 PM
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From 89/3 to 127 all out and 4 overs left in the bank! just wow. This was one of the fine batting collapse in T-20 from bowling point of view and match winning come back from the windies after their poor power play display with the ball.
I am glad that i did not place a bet in the match, after West Indies scored 145 runs i did not consider them as a huge total to defend and i expected Australia to have the batting lineup to chase the score but then i saw the batting line up and the discussion here about the missing players and i thought to skip it and Australia messed up the chase completely.

I was surprised to see the Australian batsmen batting. I never thought they would lose all their wickets for just 128 runs. Australia's middle-order batsmen should have batted more responsibly. This match should have been easily won for a team like Australia.
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July 10, 2021, 04:05:03 PM
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I am glad that i did not place a bet in the match, after West Indies scored 145 runs i did not consider them as a huge total to defend and i expected Australia to have the batting lineup to chase the score but then i saw the batting line up and the discussion here about the missing players and i thought to skip it and Australia messed up the chase completely.
Australian batsman had lack of confidence otherwise they had overconfidence. They should have batted more professionally. The Australian batsman was behaving like that they will win the game easily and they weren't concern much about the fall of their wickets. Hopefully they won't repeat the same thing again today. Betting odds is still in favour for Australia in the second T20 match. From my view, both team have pretty same chance to win today.

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July 10, 2021, 06:59:58 PM
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Betting odds is still in favour for Australia in the second T20 match. From my view, both team have pretty same chance to win today.
If Australia could play as a team and they can bond with the new players then they can bounce back but it wont be easy as West Indies is a formidable side and it is always difficult to defeat them when you are playing in their background especially in the T20 format where they could challenge any team when they are touring, so it will be a difficult tour for Australia.
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July 11, 2021, 03:15:02 AM
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I am glad that i did not place a bet in the match, after West Indies scored 145 runs i did not consider them as a huge total to defend and i expected Australia to have the batting lineup to chase the score but then i saw the batting line up and the discussion here about the missing players and i thought to skip it and Australia messed up the chase completely.
Australian batsman had lack of confidence otherwise they had overconfidence. They should have batted more professionally. The Australian batsman was behaving like that they will win the game easily and they weren't concern much about the fall of their wickets. Hopefully they won't repeat the same thing again today. Betting odds is still in favour for Australia in the second T20 match. From my view, both team have pretty same chance to win today.

It is a five-match T20 tournament, Australia still has three more matches to come back. There is no doubt that West Indies is a very powerful team but you cannot ignore the Australian side. Except for the Australian middle-order all others were not able to perform the match. The opening pair was a flop and the tail-enders were not able to stick till the end. If Australia can work on their batting they will be able to take on the West Indies side.

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July 11, 2021, 03:50:44 AM
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It is a five-match T20 tournament, Australia still has three more matches to come back. There is no doubt that West Indies is a very powerful team but you cannot ignore the Australian side. Except for the Australian middle-order all others were not able to perform the match. The opening pair was a flop and the tail-enders were not able to stick till the end. If Australia can work on their batting they will be able to take on the West Indies side.

The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.

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^^  Sri Lanka vs England was boring series. Pakistan vs England 3rd ODI is going to be dead rubber as well (Again not looking at points). Recent trend is not looking good for bilateral series so really want Australia to bounce back in the next game, which we can expect from the Aussie. Their key players are missing but their bowling still good so may be there is some hope.

At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.

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At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.
It is not a simple victory, to win against England in England is a huge deal as they are strong performers and England won the first match and it was reduced due to the weather situation and winning the second T20 is a huge deal and India level the series and even though India lost the ODI series if they can win the T20 series it will be a huge deal.
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July 12, 2021, 02:58:27 AM
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^^  Sri Lanka vs England was boring series. Pakistan vs England 3rd ODI is going to be dead rubber as well (Again not looking at points). Recent trend is not looking good for bilateral series so really want Australia to bounce back in the next game, which we can expect from the Aussie. Their key players are missing but their bowling still good so may be there is some hope.

At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.


The COVID restrictions have made matters worse. Subcontinent teams are struggling to get adjusted to the conditions in England and that may be one of the reasons for the lop-sided nature of the matches. It was not just Sri Lanka and Pakistan. Even India struggled against the New Zealand pace battery during the WTC finals. In case of Pakistan, they could not organize any warmup matches and have to stay inside the bio-bubbles all the time. So it might have affected their performance. The England players on the other hand are playing county cricket.

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At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.
It is not a simple victory, to win against England in England is a huge deal as they are strong performers and England won the first match and it was reduced due to the weather situation and winning the second T20 is a huge deal and India level the series and even though India lost the ODI series if they can win the T20 series it will be a huge deal.
They won a good game yesterday but they batted badly after first power play despite getting tremendous start from the openers especially Verma. As soon as openers got out Run rate went down drastically. This is actually becoming habit of Indian Women team, they always gets excellent start but fail to capitalize every single time. 

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They won a good game yesterday but they batted badly after first power play despite getting tremendous start from the openers especially Verma. As soon as openers got out Run rate went down drastically. This is actually becoming habit of Indian Women team, they always gets excellent start but fail to capitalize every single time. 

Well.. that is good.. at least one team from the sub-continent is winning some matches in England. Indian women's team is not as strong as their men's team. If I am not wrong, they had to play the qualifier tournament last time to get a slot for the world cup. On top of that, the women's domestic cricket in India is in very bad state, due to the pandemic. If they still manage to win a few matches, then good for them. But I don't expect them to be competitive against professional sides such as England or Australia in the near term.
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They won a good game yesterday but they batted badly after first power play despite getting tremendous start from the openers especially Verma. As soon as openers got out Run rate went down drastically. This is actually becoming habit of Indian Women team, they always gets excellent start but fail to capitalize every single time. 

Well.. that is good.. at least one team from the sub-continent is winning some matches in England. Indian women's team is not as strong as their men's team. If I am not wrong, they had to play the qualifier tournament last time to get a slot for the world cup. On top of that, the women's domestic cricket in India is in very bad state, due to the pandemic. If they still manage to win a few matches, then good for them. But I don't expect them to be competitive against professional sides such as England or Australia in the near term.
Oh no, i was not implying that they're not as strong as other teams. In fact they are pretty good team and very competitive. Don't know about qualifier thingy but they were finalist in the last 50 over WC so that's count, right? Its just that their batting collapse sometime, which looks bad. I think they are going to do well if BCCI start WIPL.

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Oh no, i was not implying that they're not as strong as other teams. In fact they are pretty good team and very competitive. Don't know about qualifier thingy but they were finalist in the last 50 over WC so that's count, right? Its just that their batting collapse sometime, which looks bad. I think they are going to do well if BCCI start WIPL.

Stop dreaming about the WIPL. Do you really think that a cash-minded administrative body such as the BCCI would approve the WIPL? The ECB and CA started their own leagues ages ago, and their budgets are like a small fraction of what the BCCI has. I think someone need to start a rebel league for the women, similar to the ICL started by Subhash Chandra in 2007. The BCCI approved IPL only due to the potential competition from ICL. Previously they had rejected suggestions to start a franchise T20 league.
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Oh no, i was not implying that they're not as strong as other teams. In fact they are pretty good team and very competitive. Don't know about qualifier thingy but they were finalist in the last 50 over WC so that's count, right? Its just that their batting collapse sometime, which looks bad. I think they are going to do well if BCCI start WIPL.

Stop dreaming about the WIPL. Do you really think that a cash-minded administrative body such as the BCCI would approve the WIPL? The ECB and CA started their own leagues ages ago, and their budgets are like a small fraction of what the BCCI has. I think someone need to start a rebel league for the women, similar to the ICL started by Subhash Chandra in 2007. The BCCI approved IPL only due to the potential competition from ICL. Previously they had rejected suggestions to start a franchise T20 league.
That i agree, although one reason could be lack of quality women players in the country. We do have state teams but it seems quality is not up to mark. After all, you do need fair amount of domestic talent pool to fill the squads and become self sufficient in some sense as far as revenue is concern. I'm hopeful that in next years or so we'll see some sort of positive updates in this regard.

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That i agree, although one reason could be lack of quality women players in the country. We do have state teams but it seems quality is not up to mark. After all, you do need fair amount of domestic talent pool to fill the squads and become self sufficient in some sense as far as revenue is concern. I'm hopeful that in next years or so we'll see some sort of positive updates in this regard.

I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors. But some of them have performed consistently well in the domestic circuit for many years now. Without the WIPL, these talented players will just vanish from the limelight after sometime, just like what happened to dozens like them in the previous decades. There needs to be a level between the national team and the domestic tournaments. WIPL would have filled that gap.
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The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.
Australia can still bounce back and win matches and West Indies are not consistent with their performance even though they have some of the biggest players in the T20 format and we have seen that in the series against South Africa where they started with huge promises but in the end lost the match and the series draining off anyone who placed a bet on West Indies to win the series.
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I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors.
I am not ready to hear that earlier excuse because you are literally telling that the selectors are corrupted which i highly doubt. Earlier we had discussion regarding that BCCI is looking to cash in the next big thing and if they compare the pay-scale they are bound to get it is not going to be easy. I am not aware of the television viewership numbers in sports but the reason BCCI is not entertaining is because of the revenue model they will get..
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I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors.
I am not ready to hear that earlier excuse because you are literally telling that the selectors are corrupted which i highly doubt. Earlier we had discussion regarding that BCCI is looking to cash in the next big thing and if they compare the pay-scale they are bound to get it is not going to be easy. I am not aware of the television viewership numbers in sports but the reason BCCI is not entertaining is because of the revenue model they will get..

I don't think that the post implies that the selectors are corrupt. Some amount of nepotism exists in selection, and that combined with regional bias and an oversupply of talent means that at least some of the talented players never manage to promote themselves from the domestic level to the national level. The WIPL, if implemented will bridge these two levels. National team can only accommodate 14-15 players, while 500 plus play in the domestic cricket. WIPL will represent an intermediate level, with a pool of 50-60 top domestic players. 

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July 13, 2021, 04:21:47 AM
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The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.
Australia can still bounce back and win matches and West Indies are not consistent with their performance even though they have some of the biggest players in the T20 format and we have seen that in the series against South Africa where they started with huge promises but in the end lost the match and the series draining off anyone who placed a bet on West Indies to win the series.

West Indies will give all us surprise in T20 world cup. See the performance of this team in the T20 matches against Australia. West Indies have won last three T20 Matches against Australia which shows the form the current team is in. If they could perform a similar manner in the world cup, they could be one of the favorites for the cup.
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July 13, 2021, 11:15:35 AM
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West Indies will give all us surprise in T20 world cup. See the performance of this team in the T20 matches against Australia. West Indies have won last three T20 Matches against Australia which shows the form the current team is in. If they could perform a similar manner in the world cup, they could be one of the favorites for the cup.

West Indies looks to be in great form. One thing they need to look in to, is the team cohesion. And this is one department where they have consistently faced issues. They have some of the best players in cricket, but if the team bonding is not good then the star power is of no use. But I saw a lot of encouraging signs during their series against Australia. They played with a lot of cohesion, during each of the T20 matches. That makes West Indies, the favorites to win this year's world cup IMO.
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