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April 18, 2014, 06:31:24 PM
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There is also a theory that some of the passengers held patents for microchips, patents which would be owned by their respective companies if they died.

It's been discussed and is only shared by conspiracy nuts.

If its not on the Main Stream Media its not true according to this sheep. Middle class american fool i bet you 0.1BTC! Stinks of it. Bet he plays  golf and flys (internally on his farm only probably for 'business') and he thinks he as a comfortable life (those who seek security over freedom deserve neither)! Me myself spend months at as time in the east (Don't go west since 2008) and see how people live and see how the western world take the piss and shit on the developing world. Well the reest of thee world as had enough of bell ends like this!

This dude is a !st class idiot! He probably thinks the police are there for our security as well haha

Seriously, He can call me troll as much as he wants, He's a narrow minded sheep, That actually enjoys the oppression, even if he doesn't realise he's a sheep, He is!

People with cognitive dissidence ridicule and attack when there perceptions of what they believe/are comfortable with are questioned. This is why even if you had 100% evidence it does not matter. People are programmed (schooled) to be this way and its worked for over 200 years. But as you can see, Some 'conspiracy nuts' actually use there brains and question authority and what there being told. Fact is most westerners are perfectly happy been oppressed and beg their oppressors to oppress thee poor, which is where we are today. And they dont even realise they do it because there ignorant and dont care about anything but them selves. There often called the middle class, Probably the most mind controlled off us all because of there ignorance.

Not there fault, They have been doing this to us for over 200 years as i say, Who you going blame? Your parents? there pareents? Parents parents parents? No, You have to wise up, Grow a back bone and stop being a pussy and stand up for what you believe instead of listening to the crowd. The 5% shout so loud the 95% just accept it! STOP BEING SHEEP LEAD TO YOUR SLAUGHTER!

Meh, why bother. Sheeple will be sheep, They can't see outside of their contructed artificial boxes. Most of them have never left there farms (country) and don't even know how others live around the world except for what they seen on the MASS CONTROLLED TELEVISION PROPAGANDA! Hell, most people cant even pinpoint where Ukraine is on the map but they want to wage war there. Brain dead moron zombies everywhere!

I don't understand how you can claim to not be a troll when you write crap like that.  You're the biggest and most ignorant fool here the way you assume everything about people when you know nothing (but that further says a lot about you). Just because people don't believe in moronic conspiracy theories doesn't make them 'sheeple'. I also find it ironic that you call people that who dare question your beliefs as if they should be taken as gospel.

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April 18, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
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+1
Those people also often blindly follow religion and such.
No wonder why most high educated people tend to be atheists.

This is a totally wrong, you are just taking a jab on religion with no proof here, fact are, half of the most prominent scientist and noble price winners are religious heck even the biggest figure of science of all times believes in God! such as Copernicus, Galilei, Kepler, Descartes, Pascal, Newton, Boyl, Faraday, Mendel, Kelvin, Plank, Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

People stupidity it what's makes them due stupid things, not the religion, and I don't understand your free jab on religion while in his reply he didn't mention religion not even once.
I've read it in paper/article from a phd, that's it.

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April 18, 2014, 06:47:05 PM
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Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

You might want to check your facts here because neither of those three believe in god. At a push you could call most of them agnostic, but they'd probably say otherwise.

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April 18, 2014, 06:51:37 PM
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Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

You might want to check your facts here because neither of those three believe in god. At a push you could call most of them agnostic, but they'd probably say otherwise.
I didn't even read this part. You're right, those people don't believe in god.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/high-iq-turns-academics-into-atheists/402381.article

I've found these articles, although I didn't completely read them.

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There is also a theory that some of the passengers held patents for microchips, patents which would be owned by their respective companies if they died.

It's been discussed and is only shared by conspiracy nuts.

If its not on the Main Stream Media its not true according to this sheep. Middle class american fool i bet you 0.1BTC! Stinks of it. Bet he plays  golf and flys (internally on his farm only probably for 'business') and he thinks he as a comfortable life (those who seek security over freedom deserve neither)! Me myself spend months at as time in the east (Don't go west since 2008) and see how people live and see how the western world take the piss and shit on the developing world. Well the reest of thee world as had enough of bell ends like this!

This dude is a !st class idiot! He probably thinks the police are there for our security as well haha

Seriously, He can call me troll as much as he wants, He's a narrow minded sheep, That actually enjoys the oppression, even if he doesn't realise he's a sheep, He is!

People with cognitive dissidence ridicule and attack when there perceptions of what they believe/are comfortable with are questioned. This is why even if you had 100% evidence it does not matter. People are programmed (schooled) to be this way and its worked for over 200 years. But as you can see, Some 'conspiracy nuts' actually use there brains and question authority and what there being told. Fact is most westerners are perfectly happy been oppressed and beg their oppressors to oppress thee poor, which is where we are today. And they dont even realise they do it because there ignorant and dont care about anything but them selves. There often called the middle class, Probably the most mind controlled off us all because of there ignorance.

Not there fault, They have been doing this to us for over 200 years as i say, Who you going blame? Your parents? there pareents? Parents parents parents? No, You have to wise up, Grow a back bone and stop being a pussy and stand up for what you believe instead of listening to the crowd. The 5% shout so loud the 95% just accept it! STOP BEING SHEEP LEAD TO YOUR SLAUGHTER!

Meh, why bother. Sheeple will be sheep, They can't see outside of their contructed artificial boxes. Most of them have never left there farms (country) and don't even know how others live around the world except for what they seen on the MASS CONTROLLED TELEVISION PROPAGANDA! Hell, most people cant even pinpoint where Ukraine is on the map but they want to wage war there. Brain dead moron zombies everywhere!
+1
Those people also often blindly follow religion and such.
No wonder why most high educated people tend to be atheists.

This is a totally wrong, you are just taking a jab religion with no proof here, fact are, half of the most prominent scientist and noble price winners are religious heck even the biggest figure of science of all times! believes in God such as Copernicus, Galilei, Kepler, Descartes, Pascal, Newton, Boyl, Faraday, Mendel, Kelvin, Plank, Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

People stupidity it what's makes them due stupid things, not the religion, and I don't understand your free jab on religion while in his reply he didn't mention religion not even once.

Well all religions relate to the same thing, The flower off life and that's in all religions, All known histories of man everywhere. Its in buildings, art and mosques in every corner of the globe! It goes spirit, Egg of life, Flower of life the Fruit of life. All religion is is trying to make sense out of this and different people had different idea's over thee last 2,500 years since we lost this knowledge and since then it as been rewritten by the few that try to control. That's often referred to as thee 'lucifarian experiment' or the separation off the flower of life (body from the soul) which always ends up in disaster time and time again, But most people don't even know our own history and prefeer to east Smack Chips guzzling crack pop watching 'Who wants to be the biggest wanker' on there brain drain boxes!

The fact is religion is just a form of divide and conquer by all the cabals that have ever been trying to control there populas (You sheeple). Yes, there is little truth in most religions but there all really out of context and i reefer to them as children s books with pop up pictures. There basically a joke to spirituality and thats why theres litter all THOUSANDS of types of Christianity alone! Sick mother fuckers stealing the wealth from you. Ever wondered why churches have gargoyles and have an haunting presence? Wonder why the Vatican as the WORLDS MOST POWERFUL TELESCOPE! CALLED LUCIFER!

They've ushered in the final pope, This is the sign of the end of there plans and that why it loks like the goverments around the worldf look like they dont care anymore about beeen caught, They know thee final stages of there 200+ year plans are heree, And most peeople dont even know whats going on arguing amoungst themselves! Just as they planned!#

Hats of to them, They've pulled it off up until now but i sense enough people are wising up. There biggest mistake was allowing us the internet, Thats where they really went wrong! Most religious nuts are harmless and they can come together with other religions too. Thee Zionist movement (STATE of Israel, not country) is the current center of there operations. Jews are not supposed to own land, that's why they call it a state but everyone knows they stole Palestine! Who did?> Rothschild s you dumb schmucks (BETTER). Queen of england, BP oil, Queen holland... Shell & texeco. Education, Rothschild University, Medical? Rothschild medical school. Banking? Rothschild.

GETTING THE PICTURE? Mind control exists, You abuse a person from VERY young age horrifically and you will control them. Thats what they do. MK ultra never died. Bill Clinton, Mind control, George bush, Mind control. I think Obama may be one of there insiders and he may just be just a sick mother fucker! Barry by his real name.

And this is why i laugh at people talking about finding thee plane crashed in the ocean when an identical 777 sits in tel aviv that was redirected by 2 f16's away from the Hague when all the world leaders were there. Its transponder failed so it got seen!

http://intellihub.com/boeing-777-transponding-diverted-away-nuclear-summit-two-f-16-fighter-jets/

Well documented but you got use your brains piece it all together. Many people are not open minded and just go along with the cognitive dissidence because it 'easy'. The fact that Jacob Rothschild now owns that patent again just fits right in line with everything.

Give me the power of a nations currency and i care not who makes the laws! - ROTHSCHILD.

A little info for you, Rothschild to Goldsmith to Middleton to Windsor! George winsor is the child of the Rothschild and  Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha originally German but with WW2 planned that had to be scrapped in 1917) family. Not the rags to riches story MSM lets people know about!

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html

I can go on but most people fight the truth, Even when its well documented and if you reeally want the truth, You have to find it yourself, And most people are not botheeered, Dont care or just to think to look at someething for more than 10 minutes!

TL:DR FFS you fucking retards! If you usee that shoot yourself in the head with a 12 gauge (shotgun, Not needle!) make sure! The gene pool needs a good cleansing!

Seriously people, Truth is way stranger than fiction but boy, When you find it, You will be free, I promise you. Do it for yourself if no one else!

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April 18, 2014, 06:58:57 PM
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Hawkins defo isnt religious or believes in any god.
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There is also a theory that some of the passengers held patents for microchips, patents which would be owned by their respective companies if they died.

It's been discussed and is only shared by conspiracy nuts.

If its not on the Main Stream Media its not true according to this sheep. Middle class american fool i bet you 0.1BTC! Stinks of it. Bet he plays  golf and flys (internally on his farm only probably for 'business') and he thinks he as a comfortable life (those who seek security over freedom deserve neither)! Me myself spend months at as time in the east (Don't go west since 2008) and see how people live and see how the western world take the piss and shit on the developing world. Well the reest of thee world as had enough of bell ends like this!

This dude is a !st class idiot! He probably thinks the police are there for our security as well haha

Seriously, He can call me troll as much as he wants, He's a narrow minded sheep, That actually enjoys the oppression, even if he doesn't realise he's a sheep, He is!

People with cognitive dissidence ridicule and attack when there perceptions of what they believe/are comfortable with are questioned. This is why even if you had 100% evidence it does not matter. People are programmed (schooled) to be this way and its worked for over 200 years. But as you can see, Some 'conspiracy nuts' actually use there brains and question authority and what there being told. Fact is most westerners are perfectly happy been oppressed and beg their oppressors to oppress thee poor, which is where we are today. And they dont even realise they do it because there ignorant and dont care about anything but them selves. There often called the middle class, Probably the most mind controlled off us all because of there ignorance.

Not there fault, They have been doing this to us for over 200 years as i say, Who you going blame? Your parents? there pareents? Parents parents parents? No, You have to wise up, Grow a back bone and stop being a pussy and stand up for what you believe instead of listening to the crowd. The 5% shout so loud the 95% just accept it! STOP BEING SHEEP LEAD TO YOUR SLAUGHTER!

Meh, why bother. Sheeple will be sheep, They can't see outside of their contructed artificial boxes. Most of them have never left there farms (country) and don't even know how others live around the world except for what they seen on the MASS CONTROLLED TELEVISION PROPAGANDA! Hell, most people cant even pinpoint where Ukraine is on the map but they want to wage war there. Brain dead moron zombies everywhere!

I don't understand how you can claim to not be a troll when you write crap like that.  You're the biggest and most ignorant fool here the way you assume everything about people when you know nothing (but that further says a lot about you). Just because people don't believe in moronic conspiracy theories doesn't make them 'sheeple'. I also find it ironic that you call people that who dare question your beliefs as if they should be taken as gospel.

Just like i was saying they were spying on us in the 90's and it was true. Your the idiot going along with the 'conspiracy theory' restrict like a good sheep. You know these people are just using there brain and dont taking things at face value like a sheep!

Your comment says all i need know about you, As ive said before, i expect 90%+ people blow me off, thats cognitive dissidence, My aim is to put seeds in your heads, For when the shit hits the fan in your life, YOu might actually wake up to do something about instead of marching yourself along to them fema camps or wherever they want to take you.

Your just love the straw man argument as its your defense by your cognitive dissidence. Keep labeling people crazy and conspiracy theorists like a good sheep, Programmed well you! Oppressed begging the Oppressor, just as i said

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Randomlove, do you smoke weed?


I've done many things in my youth. I lived life and traveled, This is what opened my mind, Traveling and seeing others how they live.

Im an Antichrist at heart (anti goverment/establishmeent, Not there spoon fed propaganda off wanting destruction of everything) but i have the full support of actually being free, weell, unless the gustapo kidnap me, Lock me up and charge me with illegal laws Smiley
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Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

You might want to check your facts here because neither of those three believe in god. At a push you could call most of them agnostic, but they'd probably say otherwise.

No You are the one that might want to check his fact because you not only you are being fooled by some who tries to assimilate those scientist as atheist and spreads such FUD but their stance about religion was clear

Albert Einstein is Jew, and his work on light, general relativity had always a religious inspiration one of the most know example in science is the Cosmological constant and an other one is when he was arguing against Quantum physics (before it became the Quantum Mechanics theory) and his analogy of God trowing dice, and his bibliography is available you can check that out

One of the most famous quotes from Carl Sagan is "Atheism is stupid." if this isn't enough proof for you that he isn't a religious person then you might want to check his bibliography and his attachment to Christianity

Stephan Hawkins some religion Apologist found a tresor in Hawkings recent book "The Grand Design" saying that the Univers can be created due to Gravity and not necessary God, they just forgot that during his whole life and each time he was asked he never denied God! Now does he follow a certain religion he never was clear about this and he is known for his high degree of skepticism so unless I missed something from and I'm sure you'll correct if I'm wrong, he does not denie God, and if you want me to remove him from the list I can, and can 100 more prominent scientist in his stead.

Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

You might want to check your facts here because neither of those three believe in god. At a push you could call most of them agnostic, but they'd probably say otherwise.
I didn't even read this part. You're right, those people don't believe in god.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/high-iq-turns-academics-into-atheists/402381.article

I've found these articles, although I didn't completely read them.

the above! well lol! I want to see one person in front of me claiming that they are more intelligent has a high IQ than the persons I mentioned above, like I said before, it's just FUD spread by some aggressive Atheist, and I think you guys were discussing this part, aka Media propaganda to brainwash people?

And to be clear, I'm not against Atheism, just that anyone is free to believe what ever they want but spreading FUD and attacks is another story. let people make their own choices
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Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

You might want to check your facts here because neither of those three believe in god. At a push you could call most of them agnostic, but they'd probably say otherwise.

No You are the one that might want to check his fact because you not only you are being fooled by some who tries to assimilate those scientist as atheist and spreads such FUD but their stance about religion was clear

Albert Einstein is Jew, and his work on light, general relativity had always a religious inspiration one of the most know example in science is the Cosmological constant and an other one is when he was arguing against Quantum physics (before it became the Quantum Mechanics theory) and his analogy of God trowing dice, and his bibliography is available you can check that out

One of the most famous quotes from Carl Sagan is "Atheism is stupid." if this isn't enough proof of you that he isn't a religious person then you might want to check his bibliography and his attachment to Christianity

Stephan Hawkins some religion Apologist found a tresor in Hawkings recent book "The Grand Design" saying that the Univers can be created due to Gravity and not necessary God, they just forgot that during his whole life and each time he was asked he never denied God! Now does he follow a certain religion he never was clear about this.

+1 But it doesn't matter because they were all wrong. Religion is still a load of bollocks! Thats why Einstien couldn't accept the quantum world because of his beliefs. Are people really this far out of touch?

Do people think Edisen was a great inventor and not a thief and crook who stole and manipulated people? People believe everything there schooled Sad
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+1 But it doesn't matter because they were all wrong. Religion is still a load of bollocks! Thats why Einstien couldn't accept the quantum world because of his beliefs. Are people really this far out of touch?

Do people think Edisen was a great inventor and not a thief and crook who stole and manipulated people? People believe everything there schooled Sad

Thomas Edison was a thief, (I'm not even going to discuss the thing he's done against the people working for him such as Nikola Tesla) not only that but many of the invention attribute to his has nothing to do with him, his labs or his company in fact they were invented in other continents example the light bulb that was invented by Joseph Wilson Swan using results from Humphry Davy and his electric arcs

Edison might be a great scientist, he is indeed a great business man with no moral but any single invention he would have made in my eyes is tainted due to the things he've done

Anyway guys this thread is about the missing plane so lets keep it at that for now, If you want to talk about religion and atheism make a new thread and we can discuss this all you want.
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April 18, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
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+1 But it doesn't matter because they were all wrong. Religion is still a load of bollocks! Thats why Einstien couldn't accept the quantum world because of his beliefs. Are people really this far out of touch?

Do people think Edisen was a great inventor and not a thief and crook who stole and manipulated people? People believe everything there schooled Sad

Thomas Edison was a thief, (I'm not even going to discuss the thing he's done against the people working for him such as Nikola Tesla) not only that but many of the invention attribute to his has nothing to do with him, his labs or his company in fact they were invented in other continents example the light bulb that was invented by Joseph Wilson Swan using results from Humphry Davy and his electric arcs

Edison might be a great scientist, he is indeed a great business man with no moral but any single invention he would have made in my eyes is tainted due to the things he've done

Nice to see you at least see the obvious. You just need open your mind and discover yourself and then you will see the rest of how/what/why they do what they do. Its not something you can show someone unfortunately or i would, Its for you to learn your own path. As i say, its all within the flower of life, But no one listens but i don't care if you do or not. Thats your loss and you will be forever searching and finding nothing but empty promises and rotten apples doing the same thing over and over. 90%+ of western so called developed world are clinically insane. Thats just a fact


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Just like i was saying they were spying on us in the 90's and it was true. Your the idiot going along with the 'conspiracy theory' restrict like a good sheep. You know these people are just using there brain and dont taking things at face value like a sheep!

Your comment says all i need know about you, As ive said before, i expect 90%+ people blow me off, thats cognitive dissidence, My aim is to put seeds in your heads, For when the shit hits the fan in your life, YOu might actually wake up to do something about instead of marching yourself along to them fema camps or wherever they want to take you.

Your just love the straw man argument as its your defense by your cognitive dissidence. Keep labeling people crazy and conspiracy theorists like a good sheep, Programmed well you! Oppressed begging the Oppressor, just as i said

Again, just resorting to trolling calling people sheep shows your true level of intelligence. It's a pathetic cop-out of getting out of making a valid argument or point. You continually make assumptions based off nothing other than people disagreeing with you. I actually question things unlike you who just believes in anything he reads that is anti-establishment or there’s a conspiracy or government cover-up in everything. That Twin Towers folded dollar bill thing is a moronic conspiracy theory and people who are sceptical of that or question you are not sheeple. The sheeple trolls are those that believe in this stuff because they're brainwashed by their own ignorance and paranoia.

Einstein, Sagan, Hawkins.... ect ect

You might want to check your facts here because neither of those three believe in god. At a push you could call most of them agnostic, but they'd probably say otherwise.

No You are the one that might want to check his fact because you not only you are being fooled by some who tries to assimilate those scientist as atheist and spreads such FUD but their stance about religion was clear

Albert Einstein is Jew, and his work on light, general relativity had always a religious inspiration one of the most know example in science is the Cosmological constant and an other one is when he was arguing against Quantum physics (before it became the Quantum Mechanics theory) and his analogy of God trowing dice, and his bibliography is available you can check that out

One of the most famous quotes from Carl Sagan is "Atheism is stupid." if this isn't enough proof for you that he isn't a religious person then you might want to check his bibliography and his attachment to Christianity

Stephan Hawkins some religion Apologist found a tresor in Hawkings recent book "The Grand Design" saying that the Univers can be created due to Gravity and not necessary God, they just forgot that during his whole life and each time he was asked he never denied God! Now does he follow a certain religion he never was clear about this and he is known for his high degree of skepticism so unless I missed something from and I'm sure you'll correct if I'm wrong, he does not denie God, and if you want me to remove him from the list I can, and can 100 more prominent scientist in his stead.

No, this is actually just FUD spread by Christians to try make some of their claims valid, when it's actually lies.

Einstein being a Jew is irrelevant. Where is his work religious in inspiration? "Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein

Carl Sagan was essentially an agnostic but against religion. Do some research. You might want to read his The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search for God book.

And I have literally no idea what you just said about Hawking, but he's probably the most atheistic of them all, regardless of whether he comes out and point blank says 'There is no God', but clearly you haven't read his book The Grand Design ( I recommend you do): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7979211/Has-Stephen-Hawking-ended-the-God-debate.html

So please stop trying to claim prominent scientists as your own to further give any credence to childish myths.

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April 18, 2014, 07:52:05 PM
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Randomlove, do you smoke weed?


I've done many things in my youth.

That explains a lot lol.

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April 18, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
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No, this is actually just FUD spread by Christians to try make some of their claims valid, when it's actually lies.

Einstein being a Jew is irrelevant. Where is his work religious in inspiration? "Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein

Carl Sagan was essentially an agnostic but against religion. Do some research. You might want to read his The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search for God book.

And I have literally no idea what you just said about Hawking, but he's probably the most atheistic of them all, regardless of whether he comes out and point blank says 'There is no God', but clearly you haven't read his book The Grand Design ( I recommend you do): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7979211/Has-Stephen-Hawking-ended-the-God-debate.html

So please stop trying to claim prominent scientists as your own to further give any credence to childish myths.

FUD ? What are you talking about, I didn't get some opinioned post like you did here, I got facts and clear quotes from the people here
Being a Jew is not relevant? this claim is plainly stupid do you even read what are you saying here ? and just another fact since you say that Einstein believes in Spinozas God isn't that God, The God and not many? as in the main 3 religions where non of them says that God is human? and where is his work religious is inspiration? you don't see two of the most well known example in modern science I've mentioned? if you don't understand those just ask for explanation but don't go in denial as if I didn't back up what I said with know facts

Carl Sagan against religion? he was during much of his life an Agnostic THEIST, if he wasn't why would he say "Atheism is stupid." and other quotes that you are just plainly ignoring it again obviously because you can't argue against it.

My comment on Hawking is clear you can read and reread it, also claiming I didn't read a book is a proof on it self on how you make your own thing and believes it but does that makes it a fact NO it does not.

And as I said in my previous comment that you did quote if you want me to remove Hawkins from that list, as he did NOT state a clear stance about it, I have no problem with that, but on the other hand how come you are just plainly ignoring the dozen of prominent scientists I mentioned, and focusing on one or two of them only, see where again your self denial kicks in and you just ignore, as proven above, again what was written
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So please stop trying to claim prominent scientists as your own to further give any credence to childish myths.
for reference lol.

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April 18, 2014, 08:13:39 PM
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Randomlove, do you smoke weed?


I've done many things in my youth.

That explains a lot lol.

There's also a flip[ side to your assumptions, And you sir are the one thats been narrow minded and closing yourself within boxes, Not me!

Having a good seasion this year ain't you! Mwhahahahaha


As for me believing everything i read, No, I'm just trying stir some peoples brain cells, Maybe not yours but as i say 90% are sheep, Not all as you claim! Your good at jumping to conclusions yourself and i love you referencing Wikipedia for stuff about 'God' lol. If you want know what got is its the golden light of universal consciousness to be precise. we have 2 DNA strands where we can have up to 12 so as a species, We have a lot to learn! There are already people showing up with 3 strands so the awakening as already started whether you believe it or not.


And the reference to people as sheep comes from your masters, They termed you sheeple so i am only using the official name of what they call you, Although, I agree with their assessments! I'd like take creedit but its not from me sorry!

See how they geet 2 people like me and you who should be on same page bickering over straw man arguments. There methods have been simple, Slow and methodical and credit where credits due, They done a fine job on us! The people behind thee curtain (mathematicians, Scientists, medical personal etc ) aree anything but stupid, They use puppets that are stupid and thats all that the general public see.


Hell, If you really want get out there it isn't even creatures of this planet that control the ones we know about! From stories of atlantis (created from the tree of life) to martians coming to earth after a failed lucifarian experiment on mars, Who the fuck knows really! The only thing i can guarantee is that if you believe what you were schooled, Your not using that lump of ffflesh in your head!

As for paranoia haha, Your funny. I don't fear (Fictional Events actually realized) because it doesn't exist. Its all in the head! I embrace and look forward to my passing and will grow old with dignity. Sorry but that last line off yours as me in stitches here. ROFL
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April 18, 2014, 08:14:33 PM
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Yeah, they need wings and a tail too. And thats about it. As for turning, apparently its beyond doubt the pilot initiated the turn. How does that invalidate a fire theory? Apart from trying to fight the fire, turning back to an airport is the second most urgent thing to do. Many will say its the first thing to do.

The pilot making the first turn doesn't invalidate anything, its the additional turn(s) after that initial turn that make no sense to me.

My theory is that flight 370 never lost control at all. The crew was incapacitated, but the plane itself may have been fine after they stopped the electrical fire.
I dont know what path it followed exactly after the transponder was shut down. Does anyone? I think not. But if it did indeed fly a slightly erratic path, it would only serve as another argument in favor of incapacitated crew. A plane doesnt just fall from the sky when you release the controls, it will for the most part simply continue flying even without autpilot. Almost all pilot induced crashes are because the crew actively did something wrong, like slowing it down too much, steering in to the ground, or in to a mountain, or because they pulled too hard and stalled the plane, ..  not because they didnt do anything at all.  If only the pilots of Air France Flight 447 had done nothing, or simply released the controls at any point during their stall, instead of pulling the sticks non stop, it would have been fine.

Let's think about this for a second. Military radar blips happened after that initial turn, if you plot those points, I come to the conclusion that  turns had to be made, not slightly erratic. Not to mention the sharp turn into the Indian Ocean that the people investigating are acting like happened.  It sounds like your just acting like we need to ignore those because of the whole unrealiability factor of military radar?  which I think is a little odd, but I will comply because I am not familiar with military radar.

Even IF you decide to throw out all of the military radar blips and only accept that the last known position was shortly after that first turn, I still cannot see evidence for a ghost flight to the crash area... a turn had to of happened somewhere and planes with an incapacitated crew shouldn't turn. It should be straight path with an incapacitated crew and the plane just gliding along, a straight path with a possible arch/curve, but no direct turns.

When looking at a map, find where the plane made its initial u-turn and then look at the potential crash site... do you believe a plane could have made it from that initial turn over to the indian ocean without a turn?   Or are you implying a ghost flight can make turns and head in a different direction?

A plane cruising at altitude will just fly on without any input. If it starts to pitch down it will gain speed, gain lift and therefore automatically pitch up again. ANd due to the wing incidence if it starts rolling in one direction it will automagically slowly level itself again. Planes that lost all hydraulic power, leaving the pilot with no input (besides throttle), have flown on for hours many times, and the opposite, the plane crashing shorty after losing hydraulics in a cruise flight,  has to my knowledge, never happened. In fact, at least one plane landed safely without any hydraulics, with the pilots only using differential throttle. A DHL flight over Iraq. That shows you dont need stick input to keep flying, aerodynamics take care of that. You only need stick input/autopilot to steer.

Alternatively if the plane flew straight and level all the way to the crash site, that doesnt invalidate the theory either, as its just as plausible the autopilot was not disabled by the fire or fuse pulling. The fire could have been found being caused by other circuitry like communications, or the fire may have disabled those but pilots restored power to the other circuitry. We have no way of knowing.

Do you believe it was possible for this plane to be heading north-west (or even just west) and being able to 'fly straight and level all the way to the crash site'?    If you fly straight and level from the last point of contact, doesn't that put you approaching the Maldives before running out of gas?

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April 18, 2014, 08:27:58 PM
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No, this is actually just FUD spread by Christians to try make some of their claims valid, when it's actually lies.

Einstein being a Jew is irrelevant. Where is his work religious in inspiration? "Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein

Carl Sagan was essentially an agnostic but against religion. Do some research. You might want to read his The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search for God book.

And I have literally no idea what you just said about Hawking, but he's probably the most atheistic of them all, regardless of whether he comes out and point blank says 'There is no God', but clearly you haven't read his book The Grand Design ( I recommend you do): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7979211/Has-Stephen-Hawking-ended-the-God-debate.html

So please stop trying to claim prominent scientists as your own to further give any credence to childish myths.

FUD ? What are you talking about, I didn't get some opinioned post like you did here, I got facts and clear quotes from the people here
Being a Jew is not relevant? this claim is plainly stupid do you even read what are you saying here ? and just another fact since you say that Einstein believes in Spinozas God isn't that God, The God and not many? as in the main 3 religions where non of them says that God is human? and where is his work religious is inspiration? you don't see two of the most well known example in modern science I've mentioned? if you don't understand those just ask for explanation but don't go in denial as if I didn't back up what I said with know facts

Carl Sagan against religion? he was during much of his life an Agnostic THEIST, if he wasn't why would he say "Atheism is stupid." and other quotes that you are just plainly ignoring it again obviously because you can't argue against it.

My comment on Hawking is clear you can read and reread it, also claiming I didn't read a book is a proof on it self on how you make your own thing and believes it but does that makes a fact NO it does not.

And as I said in my previous comment that you did quote if you want me to remove Hawkins from that list, as he did NOT start a clear stance about it I have no problem with that, but on the other hand how come you are just plainly ignoring the dozen of prominent scientist I mentioned, and focusing on one of them only, see where again you self denial kicks in and you just ignore as proven above again what was written
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So please stop trying to claim prominent scientists as your own to further give any credence to childish myths.
for reference lol.



He likes the straw man arguments

Seeing people discussing it crashing in the ocean is hilarious. Explain why there phones were on for 5-6 hours after it disappeared? That alone should ring bells but no, Cognitive dissidence here we come!
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April 18, 2014, 08:40:23 PM
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I don't think you know what a straw man argument is.

What does the phones ringing prove if it's even true? The phones would still ring if the plane was missing, before it crashed. It was off course for a while.
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