🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[pawel7777]

About Alex Pereira. I just read it one some comments. Is it really abuse to allow a fighter who had been knocked out terribly to fight again after just 3 months?

Good question. His fight with Adesanya was on 8th April, so it's closer to 4 months, but still. I vaguely recall some fighter or expert saying the recovery takes long months. Of course it depends on how bad the knockout was and on the fighter's age among other factors.
UFC often brag about providing high-level medical care for all the fighters, so it's possible that he went through some brain scans and they concluded that the damage was minimal.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pereira (or his agent) was the one pushing to make another fight quickly. He's not getting any younger and fans are quick to forget inactive fighters. Money-wise it makes more sense to do it now than to wait for another few months.

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[Minecache]

About Alex Pereira. I just read it one some comments. Is it really abuse to allow a fighter who had been knocked out terribly to fight again after just 3 months?

Good question. His fight with Adesanya was on 8th April, so it's closer to 4 months, but still. I vaguely recall some fighter or expert saying the recovery takes long months. Of course it depends on how bad the knockout was and on the fighter's age among other factors.
UFC often brag about providing high-level medical care for all the fighters, so it's possible that he went through some brain scans and they concluded that the damage was minimal.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pereira (or his agent) was the one pushing to make another fight quickly. He's not getting any younger and fans are quick to forget inactive fighters. Money-wise it makes more sense to do it now than to wait for another few months.

Alex Pereira is already 36 years old. He is certainly not getting any younger as you said. Probably a few years later, he will not be able to fight as well as he is doing now. So I think that is another reason why he has actually pushed so hard to take this fight. He was knocked out really badly against Israel Adesanya. I don’t think even if he is clear in terms of all medical exams, he should be fighting so early after he got knocked out.

I actually agree with you that he probably wants to stay relevant. That is a big reason why he took this fight so early. Of course he must be feeling confident about his ability going into this fight. But I also think that he wants to make as much money as quickly as possible.

[YuginKadoya]

Good that you have noticed that, but I dont think that this gonna play a significant role. I mean Poirier can easily move to Salt Lake for few weeks or month to pass acclimatization process. But for any other European fighter for example, if he is not able to allow a few weeks camp in the US, that would play a huge role. But anyway it will be more like a jet lag. Human body needs a week minimum to readjust. That is why UAE tournaments are difficult for some fighters. Jet lag + weather + stress. That is huge test for a fighter.

I believe that when a Filipino boxers go to some place because he is having a fight he needs 1 month to readjust his body and to condition it to the weather and climate or the time difference of that particular country more longer much better, and when he went to that particular country I think it was Japan for a fight it was just 1 to 2 weeks and his body didn't readjust to the time difference of that country and so he have fight without proper sleep that have cost him to lose that fight and because he doesn't have proper preparation with the fight it was schedule ahead of time but because of some issue's mostly money problem, he lost that fight,

I’ve never heard of it but I’m also not surprised that Conor is going for another massive payday in the beverage market. Congratulations to him. He seems to be doing everything he can to get rich while he still has the limelight. At some point though he’s going to have to win an actual fight. It’s been so long I can’t even name the year he last won a fight of any kind that wasn’t against an elderly man in a bar.

I am sure that he doesn't need to fight anymore, but surely this success is because of his appearance we is pretty much well-known by so much people that even his negative stance is not being criticized because he has so much fan than haters, this is the truth about Conor McGregor whenever he is highlighted in a video, it will be surely a big hit, so for me he doesn't need to return to the Octagon anymore, he could also likely become a artist or a celebrity for sure he would likely accumulate a lot from that industry,

[TopTort777]

Today I was pleasantly surprised to see Forged Army beer. How many of you heard of it? Their https://www.forgedirishstout.com/ webpage seems to be not very creative, social medias as well. Turns out this is Conor McGregors beer (https://shop.conormcgregor.com/pages/forged). This project is rather new on the market. What do you think about it? Will we see proper twelve 2.0 or restart in here ? Beer is more available than whiskey, so the sales seems to be higher. Another 600 millions for Conor ?

I’ve never heard of it but I’m also not surprised that Conor is going for another massive payday in the beverage market. Congratulations to him. He seems to be doing everything he can to get rich while he still has the limelight. At some point though he’s going to have to win an actual fight. It’s been so long I can’t even name the year he last won a fight of any kind that wasn’t against an elderly man in a bar.

Forged Army beer appeared in social media about half a year ago. Conor was spotted with beer glasses in his pub long time ago, but I think few weeks ago he has starting direct promotion (sort of a mentioning product and etc). To refresh your memory - last time Conor won a fight was a fight against Cowboy Cerrone. Then it was a double loss to Poirier (tko and injury). We see more Conor as a media personality now, than a fighter (yet he still post mirror posing and some pictures of sparring).

[tokeweed]

^  Cool.  It's nice to see him build another brand.  I think he should just stop fighting and totally retire from MMA.  I don't think anyone is excited to see him in the cage.  Maybe a boxing match vs Nate Diaz could be interesting but that's about it.  Lol.

Naaah, Nate Diaz isnt the same "media size" as Conor is. He needs another fight against Mayweather Or a media guy that has a product, that his beer can make collaboration. But I doubt there is anything that goes along with beer Snacks? I doubt that Lays or Pringles gonna agree to make collaboration with Conor Btw, I dont want to see him in octagon again. He is not a fighter anymore. Poser and businessman

Meh...  I don't really care.  But for me, other than seeing McGregor and Nate Diaz in a match of boxing, I don't really care what they do outside of sports.  Like football and F1, it's all about making picks and making some bets for shits and giggles every weekend and getting drunk with a bunch of friends.

UFC 290:  Embedded 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KEeAT6GJGM

UFC Free Fight:  Blacho vs Rockhold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcMky05q7A

UFC Free Fight:  Pereira vs Strickland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW5H4rjfQpQ

And here's the thing, they're gonna fight in high elevation in Salt Lake City.  Gaethje trains in Colorado so he prolly has the cardio advantage in this one.

Altitude of 1,300m is probably not high enough to make a significant difference, but good point, it might be a slight advantage to Gaethje.

I looked it up and it says endurance performance starts going down by 2% - 4% at above 1000m.  It's not much but for the guys who have bad cardio, it could be more.

https://www.mysportscience.com/post/2015/03/05/altitude-effects-on-endurance-performance

Here's another one...

https://medium.com/@archie.fenn/ufc-278-how-altitude-affects-fighter-performance-26d8c0483307

Edit:  Typos.

[TopTort777]

Meh...  I don't really care.  But for me, other than seeing McGregor and Nate Diaz in a match of boxing, I don't really care what they do outside of sports.  Like football and F1, it's all about making picks and making some bets for shits and giggles every weekend and getting drunk with a bunch of friends.

Picture or it is fake

Ready to get wasted during UFC 291 ? I have a challenge for you and your friends - sip what ever you are drinking during whole event, but if the fight finishes early, empty your glass We did something like that during IIHF every time any of teams score. So not to make this post off-topic, I think the fights Poirier vs Gaethje, Blachowicz vs Pereira, Fergusson vs Green and Lewis vs de Lima not going to run full distance

[bittraffic]

About Alex Pereira. I just read it one some comments. Is it really abuse to allow a fighter who had been knocked out terribly to fight again after just 3 months?

Good question. His fight with Adesanya was on 8th April, so it's closer to 4 months, but still. I vaguely recall some fighter or expert saying the recovery takes long months. Of course it depends on how bad the knockout was and on the fighter's age among other factors.
UFC often brag about providing high-level medical care for all the fighters, so it's possible that he went through some brain scans and they concluded that the damage was minimal.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pereira (or his agent) was the one pushing to make another fight quickly. He's not getting any younger and fans are quick to forget inactive fighters. Money-wise it makes more sense to do it now than to wait for another few months.

Alex Pereira is already 36 years old. He is certainly not getting any younger as you said. Probably a few years later, he will not be able to fight as well as he is doing now. So I think that is another reason why he has actually pushed so hard to take this fight. He was knocked out really badly against Israel Adesanya. I don’t think even if he is clear in terms of all medical exams, he should be fighting so early after he got knocked out.

I actually agree with you that he probably wants to stay relevant. That is a big reason why he took this fight so early. Of course he must be feeling confident about his ability going into this fight. But I also think that he wants to make as much money as quickly as possible.

I was just asking because I was watching a YT video about it and his fight against Jan. People are commenting that he might have trauma after that terrible KO. In the video Alex hardly can't balance himself, he had to have someone beside him. With brain knockout, sports association will warn UFC for abusing talents. If Alex will be knocked out by Jan, fans might bring this issue up.

Anyway, I actually would like the Poirier vs Gaethje fight to last long, they are quite enjoyable to watch in their first fight.  Its Alex vs Jan that might not just be on round 1.

[pawel7777]

I actually agree with you that he probably wants to stay relevant. That is a big reason why he took this fight so early. Of course he must be feeling confident about his ability going into this fight. But I also think that he wants to make as much money as quickly as possible.

It's not just about wanting to stay relevant or famous just for the sake of it. Careers in professional sports at the top level always have short life-span. And to make a living out of it, you have to earn enough to last you for the rest of your life.
As the proverb says, you need to strike while the iron is hot. Pereira has quite a few fights on his record, but I don't think he was getting paid a lot outside of the UFC. So now, when he finally has an opportunity to fight for decent money, he has to grab every chance and cannot afford to just rest for almost a year.

[OgNasty]

Anybody got a take on Donald Cerrone calling out Andrew Tate by saying he would knock the shit out of him? I think Andrew Tate has about 3 inches and 25 pounds on Donald Cerrone. That would be a problem in the boxing ring so I think Tate would take him in a boxing match. MMA though, Cerrone is probably right to think he could kick his ass.

[bbc.reporter]

@OgNasty. I would speculate that Cowboy Cerrone wants a fight, however, he wants the easiest but very popular opponent who can also collect the highest amount of money for him hehehehe.

On UFC 291, my head is shaking very quickly on why El Cuycuy is very underestimated vs. a low ranked fighter Bobby Green. Also, I reckon the Black Beast might also be underestimated against this Marcos who is another low ranked fighter.

[TopTort777]

On UFC 291, my head is shaking very quickly on why El Cuycuy is very underestimated vs. a low ranked fighter Bobby Green. Also, I reckon the Black Beast might also be underestimated against this Marcos who is another low ranked fighter.

El Cucuy isnt the same El Cucuy we remember. Fergusson has lost his last 5 fights. His chin isnt as hard as used to be, and that front kick from Chandler proved that. It might sound sad, but Tony is not ready for current UFC fighters generation. Green is not the best striker, but I think he would either TKO Tony, and once again we gonna see Tony's face being destroyed. I think Tony hasnt recovered from that "alleging uncharacteristic behavior" he has got from 2019. And that truck crash in May 2023.

[tokeweed]

Green is actually a good striker.  His legs are vulnerable vs leg kicks tho.  Something which Ferguson maaaybe could take advantage of.  But dunno...  When I think of Ferguson I remember the metal pipe he was practicing his leg kicks on.  Lolol.  All in all just enjoy the match and avoid it as far as betting goes.  The event has 11 other match ups to put some action on.  :/

Did the regs itt watch the pre fight press conference?

UFC 291:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX3za6YxK2s

I lean Blachowicz at first glance but after seeing him facing off with Pereira, I change my mind.  Pereira is a big dude who could KO Blachowicz at the first round imo.  

And the weigh show is gonna be live in three hours or so.  Enjoy...

UFC 291:  Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tno0slQ26E

[Minecache]

I was just asking because I was watching a YT video about it and his fight against Jan. People are commenting that he might have trauma after that terrible KO. In the video Alex hardly can't balance himself, he had to have someone beside him. With brain knockout, sports association will warn UFC for abusing talents. If Alex will be knocked out by Jan, fans might bring this issue up.

Anyway, I actually would like the Poirier vs Gaethje fight to last long, they are quite enjoyable to watch in their first fight.  Its Alex vs Jan that might not just be on round 1.

Although Poirier undeniably possesses exceptional fighting prowess, in my personal estimation, he surpasses Alex in terms of skill and ability. Don't think Alex will actually be able to beat him in my opinion. But that does not mean I think this fight is going to finish quickly. I honestly believe that this fight has the potential to actually go the distance. But there is also a high chance that we are going to see a knockout in this fight.

It's not just about wanting to stay relevant or famous just for the sake of it. Careers in professional sports at the top level always have short life-span. And to make a living out of it, you have to earn enough to last you for the rest of your life.
As the proverb says, you need to strike while the iron is hot. Pereira has quite a few fights on his record, but I don't think he was getting paid a lot outside of the UFC. So now, when he finally has an opportunity to fight for decent money, he has to grab every chance and cannot afford to just rest for almost a year.

Throughout a fighter's career, it holds true that staying relevant is of utmost importance. Otherwise, it does not matter if he can fight well or not, he’s not going to get fights. The fight of business is all about pay per views. I believe he was actually a little scared that if he did not start having relative and popular fights, he was gonna go down in terms of relevance. That’s the way he took the fight a little early.

[bittraffic]

I lean Blachowicz at first glance but after seeing him facing off with Pereira, I change my mind.  Pereira is a big dude who could KO Blachowicz at the first round imo.  

Looks like it. Izzy must have pissed his pants every time Alex faceoff with him. He's just glad it's over now and avenge himself. 
Alex may actually KO Jan. He had been training with Teixeira who already fought with Jan.

Spreading my funds to fighters that might just win like Poirier, Michel Pereira, Holland and Bonfim.

What do you think about Derrick Lewis now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVW--bVlCc
Steroids? 

[pawel7777]

What do you think about Derrick Lewis now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVW--bVlCc
Steroids? 

Nah, he might have used some fat burners, but he said he lost a lot of weight just by not eating. Probably he just wanted to be lighter to not gas out too quickly.
But losing a lot of pounds can have its own disadvantages. Firstly, if the weight cut is due to dehydration, then it makes you more prone to getting knocked out (has something to do with the reduction of brain fluid). But if he does drink a lot but just cuts down on food, then obviously he could end up weaker and low on energy. Hope his team know what they're doing.

[TopTort777]

The fight between Thompson and Pereira is cancelled due to Pereira did not make weight. This is the second time they must have foughts (first time at ufc 289). So ufc decided to cancel that fight (and move Lewis vs de Lima from prelims to main card). That is a strange decision, as Pereira got only 3lb extra. They could make it catchweight fight or cut Pereiras cheque in Thompsons favor.

[pawel7777]

Anybody got a take on Donald Cerrone calling out Andrew Tate by saying he would knock the shit out of him? I think Andrew Tate has about 3 inches and 25 pounds on Donald Cerrone. That would be a problem in the boxing ring so I think Tate would take him in a boxing match. MMA though, Cerrone is probably right to think he could kick his ass.

It's just a shit talk. Cerrone knows there's no chance of that happening. Of course he would want that as it'd mean a huge payout, way bigger than any of his UFC fights.
But if it was for real, I'd be betting on Tate if it was a kick-boxing/thai-boxing fight and on Cerrone if it was MMA.

That is a strange decision, as Pereira got only 3lb extra. They could make it catchweight fight or cut Pereiras cheque in Thompsons favor.

3 pounds in a welterweight is a lot. It's not just about the advantage of being heavier, but more about not having to massively strain your body to lose that weight. Maybe Thompson did not agree to fight in catchweight, probably he'd still get paid something just for showing up and being ready to fight. Or possibly UFC just wanted to send a message that making weight should be taken seriously.

[owengtam09]

Going with these 3 fights that I think may win in the end for the UFC 291

Dustin Poirier (1.69) VS Justin Gaethje (2.28)

Man this fight surely is going to be a banger and this one is now a rematch because their 1st fight was a win for Dustin Poirier with a KO on punches in the 2nd round so this could be a repeat or can we see a new one because back then Justin Gaethje is not fighting technically back then but right now Gaethje has already changed his style and now fighting more technically that is why for this fight I am still for Dustin Poirier for sure Poirier is going this long enough and being technical in every aspect of his being, so my pick is Dustin Poirier



Jan Błachowicz (1.90)VS Alex Pereira(1.99)

now for this fight, there are 2 things that could have happened in this fight and we could see domination for every single fighter if they stay in engaging with their expertise, for this fight, Jan Blachowicz could be dominant with his wrestling games and sure topple Alex Pereira on his feet he can surely do it, while we all know about Alex Pereira and his stand-up performance with Israel Adesanya he could also topple a dominant stand-up to defeat Blachowicz, for me my pick is Alex Pereira,



Stephen Thompson (1.70) VS Michel Pereira (2.26)

This fight, this is going to be a pure striking of a match Michel Pereira has some take-downs but he is not a true-to-the-bone wrestler and I think Stephen Thompson would expose this, but he can not underestimate Pereira's unpredictable kicks and punches Stephen Thompson is not a slack he can surely tremendously become technical with his striking this is going to be a great showcase of striking, where Michel Pereira could pull a great leaping kick but for this fight, I think I will go with Stephen Thompson for this fight,

[pawel7777]

Jan Błachowicz (1.90)VS Alex Pereira(1.99)
now for this fight, there are 2 things that could have happened in this fight and we could see domination for every single fighter if they stay in engaging with their expertise, for this fight, Jan Blachowicz could be dominant with his wrestling games and sure topple Alex Pereira on his feet he can surely do it, while we all know about Alex Pereira and his stand-up performance with Israel Adesanya he could also topple a dominant stand-up to defeat Blachowicz, for me my pick is Alex Pereira,

Not saying that Pereira doesn't have a chance, but I'd go with Jan on this one. Partly because he's my compatriot, but also because his striking game is very solid, many forget that he fought Adesanya standing for like 3 rounds. But if he's in trouble, he could always take it to the ground. I'm sure Pereira worked hard on his takedown defence, but I don't think he'll be able to stop Jan.

Stephen Thompson (1.70) VS Michel Pereira (2.26)

As posted above, this one has been cancelled due to Pereira missing the weight by 3lb.

[tokeweed]

I lean Blachowicz at first glance but after seeing him facing off with Pereira, I change my mind.  Pereira is a big dude who could KO Blachowicz at the first round imo.  

Looks like it. Izzy must have pissed his pants every time Alex faceoff with him. He's just glad it's over now and avenge himself.  
Alex may actually KO Jan. He had been training with Teixeira who already fought with Jan.

Spreading my funds to fighters that might just win like Poirier, Michel Pereira, Holland and Bonfim.

What do you think about Derrick Lewis now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVW--bVlCc
Steroids?  

Lololol!  Nice gif.  It would be exactly how I'd be doing it.    And Lewis has abs!  Who would've thunk?!  

As for Bonfim, I watched his last couple of matches and Giles'.  He should win and he's the pick but I don't think he deserves the price tag of being a huge favorite.  We'll see...

Here are the ceremonial weigh ins and the final face offs.

UFC 291:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlvnyFVdXkM

Weigh in results.  A couple of guys missed weight with Thompson vs Michel Pereira getting canceled.

Dustin Poirier (155) vs Justin Gaethje (156)
Jan Blachowicz (205) vs Alex Pereira (205.5)
Michel Pereira (174)* vs Stephen Thompson (170.5)
Tony Ferguson (155) vs Bobby Green (155.5)
Michael Chiesa (170) vs Kevin Holland (169.5)
Gabriel Bonfim (170) vs Trevin Giles (170)
Derrick Lewis (263.5) vs Marcos Rogerio de Lima (262)
Roman Kopylov (185) vs Claudio Ribeiro (185.5)
Darrius Flowers (170.5) vs Jake Matthews (170)
Vinicius Salvador (128.5)* vs CJ Vergara (125.5)
Uros Medic (170.5) vs Matthew Semelsberger (169.5)
Priscila Cachoeira (125) vs Miranda Maverick (125.5)

*Missed weight

Last call to play the Multi Master!  GLHF!

UFC 291:  Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460914.0

Meh...  I don't really care.  But for me, other than seeing McGregor and Nate Diaz in a match of boxing, I don't really care what they do outside of sports.  Like football and F1, it's all about making picks and making some bets for shits and giggles every weekend and getting drunk with a bunch of friends.

Picture or it is fake

Ready to get wasted during UFC 291 ? I have a challenge for you and your friends - sip what ever you are drinking during whole event, but if the fight finishes early, empty your glass We did something like that during IIHF every time any of teams score. So not to make this post off-topic, I think the fights Poirier vs Gaethje, Blachowicz vs Pereira, Fergusson vs Green and Lewis vs de Lima not going to run full distance

No I'm posting a pic so just go pretend as if it didn't happen. 

And Ferguson vs Green could go the distance imho.