⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[babo]

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

[Iranus]

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Watching the last match of Barcelona, I thought they were back in form. Griezmann and Messi have both been able to score. Overall, Barcelona played that kind of game we expect from them. PSG is a very tough team and they are in form. I think Barcelona is back in track well. So, now It is very difficult to predict which team will win

[Swordsoffreedom]

Real indeed needs to focus on their remaining warriors. And Zidane surely understands well the situation he is facing. This year is hard for this coach and there are many things that need to be done so as to reorganize the whole team. Well, so far so good. I always support Real and Zidane no matter what.

Real Madrid is a fairly stable team. And an experienced coach like Zidane makes the team more organized and strong. Real Madrid only needs a skilled striker at this time. Their midfield and defence lineup is one of the strongest lineups in La Liga in my opinion. If an experienced striker can take them to the team, they will be even stronger.

[Iranus]

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Watching the last match of Barcelona, I thought they were back in form. Griezmann and Messi have both been able to score. Overall, Barcelona played that kind of game we expect from them. PSG is a very tough team and they are in form. I think Barcelona is back in track well. So, now It is very difficult to predict which team will win

Yes, it's time for these two teams to get back on track because I don't think these two teams were very good at the start, but as time goes by then at least the change towards a more positive one is visible now. So with that change, I agree that this match will be even more difficult to predict because even the slightest mistake will have a bad impact on the final result.

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

[dre1982]

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Watching the last match of Barcelona, I thought they were back in form. Griezmann and Messi have both been able to score. Overall, Barcelona played that kind of game we expect from them. PSG is a very tough team and they are in form. I think Barcelona is back in track well. So, now It is very difficult to predict which team will win

Yes, it's time for these two teams to get back on track because I don't think these two teams were very good at the start, but as time goes by then at least the change towards a more positive one is visible now. So with that change, I agree that this match will be even more difficult to predict because even the slightest mistake will have a bad impact on the final result.

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

You're complety right. Barcelona was always a rock steady team but this season they can lose of the low-ranked team and win against top teams.

This can result is nice betting options for those matches.

[masulum]

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

I'm not sure Barcelona can scored more than 2 goals in this match. Even they are showing good performance againts top teams, PSG have good defender in local competitions they conceded 11 goals and 6 goals at UCL. From this results I can assume if PSG's defender is good enough to makes Messi find the net. Even they are lost from Barcelona, the score maybe max 2 goals. The only teams who can makes 3 goals vs PSG this season only AS Monaco. even Madrid are struggling to create more than 2 goals.

[kassex]

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

I'm not sure Barcelona can scored more than 2 goals in this match. Even they are showing good performance againts top teams, PSG have good defender in local competitions they conceded 11 goals and 6 goals at UCL. From this results I can assume if PSG's defender is good enough to makes Messi find the net. Even they are lost from Barcelona, the score maybe max 2 goals. The only teams who can makes 3 goals vs PSG this season only AS Monaco. even Madrid are struggling to create more than 2 goals.

The result of this match will most of all depend on the condition of Messi. Unfortunately, without Messi, the team is 50% weaker. In games without Messi this season, Barcelona was very weak. Even against the average teams, they did not show the same level as with Messi.

[MCobian]

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

I'm not sure Barcelona can scored more than 2 goals in this match. Even they are showing good performance againts top teams, PSG have good defender in local competitions they conceded 11 goals and 6 goals at UCL. From this results I can assume if PSG's defender is good enough to makes Messi find the net. Even they are lost from Barcelona, the score maybe max 2 goals. The only teams who can makes 3 goals vs PSG this season only AS Monaco. even Madrid are struggling to create more than 2 goals.

I agree that PSG's defense is very good, Marquinhos and Diallo's play is very solid when defending PSG. Therefore the Barcelona attacker will not
easily score goals, while Barcelona this season has been very inconsistent. So my prediction is that PSG can win the match, especially since being
coached by Pochettino, PSG's game is a little more attacking. I believe PSG can beat Barcelona.

[slaman29]

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Nice to see you guys all having faith in my team but I somehow agree here and I've been saying it from early on in the season -- we need to focus on rebuild and not on winning La Liga. Not if it comes at the expense of reorganizing our team and coaching and entire club structure.

BUT we can focus on winning Champions League. It's not going to be too distracting. Give Messi one more taste!

[babo]

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

[dre1982]

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

Yep the whole story with Messi who wanted to leave at the beginning of the season is still an issue within the team. Everyone got the feeling he isn't giving the full 100% anymore to the team. The other players experience this and made them play this inconsistent.

[sana54210]

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

There are still tons of time left, so I can't say for sure what will happen however one thing missing from the topic is that Barcelona "was" bad and not anymore. If you open up the la liga standings for example, you will see that Barcelona has 4 losses and 4 ties, in just 18 games, that means they lost points on 8 games, but if you look at the last 5 games, they have won 4 of them with just one tie.

As you can see they were not great, but they recovered, if you remove the last 5 games for example, it happens that they played 13 games, had 3 ties and 4 losses and only 6 wins, it looked way worse. The early part of champions league came right when they were not good and didn't recover. I believe they will be much better when they play now, and they will give up a fight. However it is PSG they are facing, so they could still lose and none of that could mean anything.

[Iranus]

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

Although Barcelona has many talented players, Barcelona still relies entirely on Messi. If Messi plays well, the team wins, if Messi fails to perform, the overall performance of the team is not good. Barcelona will become more stable when players reduce their dependence on Messi.

[AakZaki]

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Both are good teams. Remember in the group phase Barca performed well, they only lost once. I think the chances of winning and qualifying are still the same. Barca is more experienced than PSG, if you remember when 2017 Barca lost 4-0 at the Parc des Princes but won 6-1 at Camp Nou. But it's all history, because the two clubs have changed a lot. One more thing I heard that Neymar suffered an ankle injury during the match against Lyon. The history of neymar's injury requires a long recovery time, if he still hasn't recovered against Barca maybe Lyon could lose.

[kawetsriyanto]

Barcelona still relies entirely on Messi. If Messi plays well, the team wins, if Messi fails to perform, the overall performance of the team is not good.

Yes. It is the same as the Argentina team, Barcelona also too relies on Messi. I don't know why it can be, but I suspect because Messi always becomes the target man in the Barcelona team during the match. So, most players only focus to deliver the ball to Messi, while Messi always becomes the executor to make a goal. It is not an effective strategy against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern, etc. Their defenders will be very easy to stop the ball delivery to Messi.

[Iranus]

Barcelona still relies entirely on Messi. If Messi plays well, the team wins, if Messi fails to perform, the overall performance of the team is not good.

Yes. It is the same as the Argentina team, Barcelona also too relies on Messi. I don't know why it can be, but I suspect because Messi always becomes the target man in the Barcelona team during the match. So, most players only focus to deliver the ball to Messi, while Messi always becomes the executor to make a goal. It is not an effective strategy against big teams like Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern, etc. Their defenders will be very easy to stop the ball delivery to Messi.

You're right, players depend on Messi and they give the ball pass more to Messi. Everyone believes that only by cooperating with Messi will Messi be able to score and the team will be able to win. But besides Messi, there are many talented players on the team. Maybe they are not as talented as Messi. But they are also able to score when given enough opportunities. If a team is dependent on a specific player, the other players lose confidence in themselves. It is very bad for team work

[kassex]

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Both are good teams. Remember in the group phase Barca performed well, they only lost once. I think the chances of winning and qualifying are still the same. Barca is more experienced than PSG, if you remember when 2017 Barca lost 4-0 at the Parc des Princes but won 6-1 at Camp Nou. But it's all history, because the two clubs have changed a lot. One more thing I heard that Neymar suffered an ankle injury during the match against Lyon. The history of neymar's injury requires a long recovery time, if he still hasn't recovered against Barca maybe Lyon could lose.

In this match, it was Neymar and other players who played a big role. Messi went into the shadows and could not change the situation. At the moment, Neymar is not in Barcelona. And Messi is no longer as strong as a couple of years ago. So if this situation happens again, then Barcelona will not be able to work a miracle.

[masulum]

In this match, it was Neymar and other players who played a big role. Messi went into the shadows and could not change the situation. At the moment, Neymar is not in Barcelona. And Messi is no longer as strong as a couple of years ago. So if this situation happens again, then Barcelona will not be able to work a miracle.

This conditions makes me remember when AC Milan meet MU in UCL, in semifinal 2016/17, MU is too dependent on CR7, when CR7 cannot move freely, the team loses their best playing style. I think PSG can do the same thing by minimizing Messi's movement in defense, with this Barcelona who lacks play makers will have difficulty to penetrating PSG's defense. Some counter attack will give PSG opportunity to create a goal.

[babo]

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Yep the whole story with Messi who wanted to leave at the beginning of the season is still an issue within the team. Everyone got the feeling he isn't giving the full 100% anymore to the team. The other players experience this and made them play this inconsistent.

Yeah
for this reason Barcellona/Messi cant do the best

same situation for Inter Milan (the coach, Antonio Conte, will get fired at end of season AND plus, owner going to sell the team!)

without mind, legs not works

[kawetsriyanto]

If a team is dependent on a specific player, the other players lose confidence in themselves.

Indeed. Other players won't have the confidence and chance to explore their potential in playing. Even worse, the opposing team can be easier to handle Barca attacking because it should focus on Messi only. The defenders of the opposing team only need to stop ball delivery to Messi, then they will have a big chance to win. This weakness seems very egoistic to give the chance to Messi only. It is like Messi only the one who has everything, while other players are just supporters.