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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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December 18, 2020, 01:46:10 PM
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It is true that if you look at the history of Real Madrid, it is indeed difficult to play in Italy, and the first leg Real Madrid will play in Italy
against Atalanta. And you predict the results of the match will end in a draw, it just might happen. But I think Real Madrid will win the game
in the first leg, as you said in the group phase Real Madrid managed to beat Inter Milan in Italy. So I am optimistic that Real Madrid should
also be able to beat Atalanta, especially since the quality of Real Madrid players is much better.
Real Madrid has bad records with Italian clubs in Champions League but most if their matches are with AC Milan and Juventus. Sometimes they played against AS Roma and AS Roma won at Bernabeu, not in Italy (they had a draw) in a decade ago. Atalanta is similar to AS Roma, they are newbies in Champions League. The last season of Atalanta is amazing in Champions League but this time can be different. Other clubs are aware of the strength and play style of Atalanta.

Atalanta is very energetic team, they run a lot but I believe that Zizou can find a tactic to beat Atalanta.

And this season Atalanta do better, have much experience.. than previous year

Atalanta's goal, also this season, is not to win the Champions League (too tiring) but to stay longer and make more money for next season!

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December 18, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
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Real Madrid is composed enough to easily beat Atlanta at this level. PSG would be too heavy for Barcelona and Atletico vs Chelsea is going to be one of the most competitive of them. Still all of other games could go on any side as we don't actually have idea what level the leagues are being played. I guess German teams are still better this time.
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December 20, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
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Real Madrid is composed enough to easily beat Atlanta at this level. PSG would be too heavy for Barcelona and Atletico vs Chelsea is going to be one of the most competitive of them. Still all of other games could go on any side as we don't actually have idea what level the leagues are being played. I guess German teams are still better this time.
We do not yet know what form the teams will be in before the Champions League starts. Perhaps by that time some teams will enter the recession period, while others will reach their peak. At the moment, the German teams are showing excellent performance and are the favorites of the tournament.
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December 20, 2020, 03:26:59 PM
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Real Madrid is composed enough to easily beat Atlanta at this level. PSG would be too heavy for Barcelona and Atletico vs Chelsea is going to be one of the most competitive of them. Still all of other games could go on any side as we don't actually have idea what level the leagues are being played. I guess German teams are still better this time.
The hope is that Real Madrid will win unless their star players get injured. I'm worried about the Barcelona's match. PSG is a very strong opponent for them. Barcelona's performance in the Champions League is great. But I was disappointed to see them play yesterday in La Liga. They cannot win against small teams. Will they be able to win against a big team like PSG? I am not satisfied with the defense of Barcelona. On the other hand, PSG6 have some great striker and midfieldes like Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria.

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December 20, 2020, 03:47:06 PM
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I'm worried about the Barcelona's match. PSG is a very strong opponent for them. Barcelona's performance in the Champions League is great. But I was disappointed to see them play yesterday in La Liga. They cannot win against small teams. Will they be able to win against a big team like PSG? I am not satisfied with the defense of Barcelona. On the other hand, PSG6 have some great striker and midfieldes like Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria.
Barcelona has not performed perfectly during their last previous meetings in their league and international level, they were lucky enough to qualify to round 16 because of the underdog club in their group Ferenvarosi Fc, on the other hand, PSG forward will be smart enough to score at least 2+ goals which eventually will give them additional opportunity to qualify with goal aggregate. I see barca out from round 16 this season.
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December 20, 2020, 04:20:41 PM
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I'm worried about the Barcelona's match. PSG is a very strong opponent for them. Barcelona's performance in the Champions League is great. But I was disappointed to see them play yesterday in La Liga. They cannot win against small teams. Will they be able to win against a big team like PSG? I am not satisfied with the defense of Barcelona. On the other hand, PSG6 have some great striker and midfieldes like Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria.
Barcelona has not performed perfectly during their last previous meetings in their league and international level, they were lucky enough to qualify to round 16 because of the underdog club in their group Ferenvarosi Fc, on the other hand, PSG forward will be smart enough to score at least 2+ goals which eventually will give them additional opportunity to qualify with goal aggregate. I see barca out from round 16 this season.
In my opinion, both Barca and PSG have the same chance of reaching the quarter-finals and are both strong teams, Barca's performance has not been perfect because some of its players have suffered injuries.
Although PSG are a strong team and have a great attacking and midfield, I think Barca are also a strong team and will recover their play and players in the last 16.

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December 20, 2020, 04:35:02 PM
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There is really a long time before the next stage starts so we can't really know what is going to happen with any team. Maybe a star gets injured, maybe someone gets covid and spreads to the team (god forbid) but it is still possible that best teams could lose to worst teams from the teams that is left.

Biggest talk has been real Madrid and Atlanta for example, and I get that real Madrid seems like the favorites right now but with few players missing and not playing at 100% would result with Atlanta winning easily. This is why I think we should wait, plus bets are not open yet and that is why I get that we would like to talk about who will win but I am not going to make decision until the morning of the games and see what is going on with the rosters before I make my decision. This applies to every match for that day and not just the Madrid one.

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December 20, 2020, 04:42:03 PM
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I'm worried about the Barcelona's match. PSG is a very strong opponent for them. Barcelona's performance in the Champions League is great. But I was disappointed to see them play yesterday in La Liga. They cannot win against small teams. Will they be able to win against a big team like PSG? I am not satisfied with the defense of Barcelona. On the other hand, PSG6 have some great striker and midfieldes like Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria.
Barcelona has not performed perfectly during their last previous meetings in their league and international level, they were lucky enough to qualify to round 16 because of the underdog club in their group Ferenvarosi Fc, on the other hand, PSG forward will be smart enough to score at least 2+ goals which eventually will give them additional opportunity to qualify with goal aggregate. I see barca out from round 16 this season.
In my opinion, both Barca and PSG have the same chance of reaching the quarter-finals and are both strong teams, Barca's performance has not been perfect because some of its players have suffered injuries.
Although PSG are a strong team and have a great attacking and midfield, I think Barca are also a strong team and will recover their play and players in the last 16.

PSG surely are in much better condition than what Barcelona are in. Though PSG are also struggling a bit on their league standing, their gameplay has been more aggressive and are scoring more goals than Barcelona. Barcelona had been specially bad with scoring.
Atlanta and Real Madrid would have been a competitive one a month ago but now Real Madrid have really stepped up.
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December 20, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!
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December 20, 2020, 05:03:36 PM
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

That is kinda something that is hard to believe especially if you think about Juventus having a hard time especially when Juventus plays poorly after the group stages. Even the teams like Ajax and Lyon are something that Juventus can easily beat but surprisingly they start not to convert anything which is sad for one of the most competitive teams in Italy. Maybe they need to change something in order to improve on these certain situations if they ever want to win the CL final again.
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December 20, 2020, 05:37:47 PM
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I'm worried about the Barcelona's match. PSG is a very strong opponent for them. Barcelona's performance in the Champions League is great. But I was disappointed to see them play yesterday in La Liga. They cannot win against small teams. Will they be able to win against a big team like PSG? I am not satisfied with the defense of Barcelona. On the other hand, PSG6 have some great striker and midfieldes like Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria.
Barcelona has not performed perfectly during their last previous meetings in their league and international level, they were lucky enough to qualify to round 16 because of the underdog club in their group Ferenvarosi Fc, on the other hand, PSG forward will be smart enough to score at least 2+ goals which eventually will give them additional opportunity to qualify with goal aggregate. I see barca out from round 16 this season.
In my opinion, both Barca and PSG have the same chance of reaching the quarter-finals and are both strong teams, Barca's performance has not been perfect because some of its players have suffered injuries.
Although PSG are a strong team and have a great attacking and midfield, I think Barca are also a strong team and will recover their play and players in the last 16.
I totally agree with you. Both teams have equal chances and ability to reach the quarter finals. PSG has star players like Neymar, Mbappe, Di maria and Rafinha. On the other hand, some star players in Barcelona is The great Messi, Griezmann, Dambele and Coutinho. I think both teams will be equally ahead in terms of capabilities. The team that plays well on the field, who can adopt a good match strategy, will win.

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December 20, 2020, 05:55:51 PM
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

That is kinda something that is hard to believe especially if you think about Juventus having a hard time especially when Juventus plays poorly after the group stages. Even the teams like Ajax and Lyon are something that Juventus can easily beat but surprisingly they start not to convert anything which is sad for one of the most competitive teams in Italy. Maybe they need to change something in order to improve on these certain situations if they ever want to win the CL final again.

@acquafredda while each one of is free to choose their favourites team which will win the champions league, but I don’t believe that Juventus is going to win the champions league, because there’re many better teams than them in the league.

Also you’re ignoring teams like Liverpool, Bayern Munich which are the favourites to win the champions league, however if Juventus beats any one of them then yea I’ll also back Juventus to win the league, but till then I’m not counting on them to lift the CL trophy.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-betting-tips/

https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/who-will-win-the-champions-league-in-2020-21-the-favourites/mju192btvrh81jc96xpfrmhs8
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December 21, 2020, 03:40:22 PM
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

That is kinda something that is hard to believe especially if you think about Juventus having a hard time especially when Juventus plays poorly after the group stages. Even the teams like Ajax and Lyon are something that Juventus can easily beat but surprisingly they start not to convert anything which is sad for one of the most competitive teams in Italy. Maybe they need to change something in order to improve on these certain situations if they ever want to win the CL final again.

@acquafredda while each one of is free to choose their favourites team which will win the champions league, but I don’t believe that Juventus is going to win the champions league, because there’re many better teams than them in the league.

Also you’re ignoring teams like Liverpool, Bayern Munich which are the favourites to win the champions league, however if Juventus beats any one of them then yea I’ll also back Juventus to win the league, but till then I’m not counting on them to lift the CL trophy.

I am not ignoring other teams, I have simply stated my bet.  Grin I am going to bet on their win now that the odds are still high; I am taking a wild guess but I am open to lose it, of course. Sometime I tend to follow with my guts rather than my brain.
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

I'm sorry to tell you this bad news: I don't think Juventus can win the Champions League.. for simple reasons:
- not yet run in with new coach
- team not yet well blended with the various champions (CR7)

is strong .. of course, but not 1st of europe

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December 22, 2020, 03:26:28 PM
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

I'm sorry to tell you this bad news: I don't think Juventus can win the Champions League.. for simple reasons:
- not yet run in with new coach
- team not yet well blended with the various champions (CR7)

is strong .. of course, but not 1st of europe
A stable team is definitely needed to win the Champions League title. Then we need a skilled and experienced coach. And lastly, we need a bunch of talented players. Juventus team may be doing well in some matches, but the team is not stable. I agree with @babo, Juventus players are not yet able to fully support Ronaldo.

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December 22, 2020, 03:33:00 PM
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Yep, Juventus have less % of win of other stable team with stable coach

You can see, if i can bet on this (Juventus no win Champions League) i bet (and i win)

Remember, i said Realbeat Inter because Inter is a broken team.. i know italian teams

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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

I'm sorry to tell you this bad news: I don't think Juventus can win the Champions League.. for simple reasons:
- not yet run in with new coach
- team not yet well blended with the various champions (CR7)

is strong .. of course, but not 1st of europe
A stable team is definitely needed to win the Champions League title. Then we need a skilled and experienced coach. And lastly, we need a bunch of talented players. Juventus team may be doing well in some matches, but the team is not stable. I agree with @babo, Juventus players are not yet able to fully support Ronaldo.
There is still plenty of time to fix whatever was broken in the team, as even the league will be back on track in mid-February. Besides, the opponent that Juventus will face is Porto, is it something difficult for Juventus while there is still a lot of time to prepare the best? I am sure Juventus will definitely win against Porto and will continue for the next round, for now I think it is too early to determine who will be the winner of the CL title, because even defending champion Bayern Munich is currently unstable.

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December 22, 2020, 04:01:05 PM
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Juventus can be considered a kind of outsider for this Champions League. We are fighting over our personal opinions really: I believe the odds of them winning are very good and I took my chances. They remind me Milan in 2002-03 when they won CL against all the odds  Wink
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Juventus is giving me a hard time lately and I believe this is the sign I have to bet them winning Champions League this season! Odds are pretty good @ 13 and I will try my luck! You read it here first! Juventus will win CL!

I'm sorry to tell you this bad news: I don't think Juventus can win the Champions League.. for simple reasons:
- not yet run in with new coach
- team not yet well blended with the various champions (CR7)

is strong .. of course, but not 1st of europe
A stable team is definitely needed to win the Champions League title. Then we need a skilled and experienced coach. And lastly, we need a bunch of talented players. Juventus team may be doing well in some matches, but the team is not stable. I agree with @babo, Juventus players are not yet able to fully support Ronaldo.
There is still plenty of time to fix whatever was broken in the team, as even the league will be back on track in mid-February. Besides, the opponent that Juventus will face is Porto, is it something difficult for Juventus while there is still a lot of time to prepare the best? I am sure Juventus will definitely win against Porto and will continue for the next round, for now I think it is too early to determine who will be the winner of the CL title, because even defending champion Bayern Munich is currently unstable.
I agree with that,t it is not clear which team will win the Champions League's title right now. Juventus has a bunch of talented players. Bonucci, Rabiot, Morata, Dybala, and the great Ronaldo.Each player plays the best in his position. Now they need to coordinate between them. I believe this team will be stable very soon if the coach can sort out the game strategy properly.

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December 23, 2020, 05:13:54 AM
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~snip~

is strong .. of course, but not 1st of europe
I agree with you, even though domestically they look strong at UCL they haven't been lucky. If I'm not mistaken they won the UCL 95/96 season. Some of the Juventus matches at UCL have always had difficulties when facing big clubs from Spain or Germany in the final. They always lose in the final, just look at the 2017 final, they lost 1-4 to Madrid. At the moment I think it's still the same. Even though there is Ronaldo, I did not win for Juventus, the UCL champion this year.
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