⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[kayiboyu]

Considering the next matches, Juventus - Chelsea match could be one of the interesting ones. As you all know, Juventus have been having a bad period for a long time. They still have no win in the Serie A. But they started the Champions League good at least by defeating Malmo 3-0 away. But Malmo are not a big opponent of course. We will see them against Chelsea too. Chelsea have had an awesome form recently. They are destroying their opponents one by one. Their last victim was Tottenham. And I think that Juventus will be the another victim even if it is a home match for Juventus. I think that Chelsea will defeat them by one goal.

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Clash in early of Champions League and in group stage is not much exciting. Purposes of teams are getting tickets to the next round and it is best if they can end in first position of their groups. However, it is not a mandatory mission and sometimes ending a group stage in second position can be better.

Messi need more time and more matches to really become a part of PSG team. He does not have good connections with other players in PSG and time will help him to build it up gradually.

This match will be interesting because Messi will meet Pep and fight with Manchester City, the club that wanted to have him very much. Finally, Messi decided to join PSG and rejected chances to reunite with Pep in Manchester City.

Although this is only in the preliminary round, it will be a very interesting match because the big teams that meet are PSG and Mancity.

I just saw the news from my local news, according to him Messi will miss the match against Mancity because he is currently being examined for his knee injury from yesterday's game with Lyon but it is not certain whether he will be absent or not.
What is clear is that this is a moment where everyone wants to know Messi's contribution to this match.

But I hope Messi will recover soon and defend his team back in the UCL.

[Bilgent]

The Champions League is a separate event and the mood of the teams can change dramatically on the eve and during these matches, so I would not immediately give preference to Manchester City. Firstly, the game will be held in Paris, which may give some advantage to the Paris club. Secondly, willy-nilly, Paris Saint-Germain is slowly rolling into the season and the club's game should also gradually improve. Just from the second point of the story, the third point arises that Messi should slowly join the team and bring more benefits to the club's game, which can have an impact already in this match. By the way, City's game at this stage is also not perfect, so the prerequisites for fighting in a single match seem to be present.

Clash in early of Champions League and in group stage is not much exciting. Purposes of teams are getting tickets to the next round and it is best if they can end in first position of their groups. However, it is not a mandatory mission and sometimes ending a group stage in second position can be better.

Messi need more time and more matches to really become a part of PSG team. He does not have good connections with other players in PSG and time will help him to build it up gradually.

This match will be interesting because Messi will meet Pep and fight with Manchester City, the club that wanted to have him very much. Finally, Messi decided to join PSG and rejected chances to reunite with Pep in Manchester City.

I really don't understand what Messi was up to. I know that Guardiola didn't beg him for him to come to Manchester City. But I'm pretty sure that he would be very OK to see his old player at his new team. But Messi still didn't want to go there and chose the wrong way I think. Because Manchester City had the same game plan that Messi was already accustomed to. If he was at Manchester City now, he would adapt to the team very quickly and he would have a bigger chance to achieve the Champions League title too.

[masulum]

Considering the next matches, Juventus - Chelsea match could be one of the interesting ones. As you all know, Juventus have been having a bad period for a long time. They still have no win in the Serie A. But they started the Champions League good at least by defeating Malmo 3-0 away. But Malmo are not a big opponent of course. We will see them against Chelsea too. Chelsea have had an awesome form recently. They are destroying their opponents one by one. Their last victim was Tottenham. And I think that Juventus will be the another victim even if it is a home match for Juventus. I think that Chelsea will defeat them by one goal.

Malmo very often underperforming in the UCL history, so Juventus victory is not because Juventus have returned to their best form, but because malmo are too weak for them. If we are looking from against AC Milan in the last match, despite the good performance from Maignan, Juventus still had a hard to winning the game and only managed to get 1 point. As against Chelsea, Juventus can lose their confidence considering Chelsea have performed better since last season, and as the reigning UCL champions. This is an advantage for Chelsea to beat Juventus.

[Yogee]

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

I don’t think this will happen because I don’t see young Iniesta and Xavi in PSG, and Neymar and Mbappe will not play concentrating on one Messi 
Interestingly enough, even when playing away, City is considered the favorite in the upcoming game, judging by the chances of the bookmakers:
2.79 - 3.86 -2.44

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

[alegotardo]

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

[Lordhermes]

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

That encounter is really going to be a tough game to watch,a tough match for Mancity and PSG.Nevertheless,with the big names that PSG have in their disposal,the likes of Messi,Mbape and Neymar,they will hoping for a win,but trust me,Mancity is going to destroy them with goals.It is a straight over 2.5 match to play,and it is a direct win for Mancity trust me.The three wise men infront of PSG attack have not blended,they not understood each other's pattern,so that is where the problem is going come from,and that will allow Mancity to defeat them.

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No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

That encounter is really going to be a tough game to watch,a tough match for Mancity and PSG.Nevertheless,with the big names that PSG have in their disposal,the likes of Messi,Mbape and Neymar,they will hoping for a win,but trust me,Mancity is going to destroy them with goals.It is a straight over 2.5 match to play,and it is a direct win for Mancity trust me.The three wise men infront of PSG attack have not blended,they not understood each other's pattern,so that is where the problem is going come from,and that will allow Mancity to defeat them.

@alegotardo, if you take a closer look at the statistics it's a fact that Mbappe and Neymar already existed and played for PSG last season in the PSG vs Manchester City match. The result was that PSG lost 1-2 and 2-0 and now, with PSG's attacking line-up already Messi is there and I agree with what @Lordhermes said they haven't blended in and don't understand each other. With these many shortcomings, I personally will also favor Manchester City because even from the previous match, which was only against a team that was far below PSG, PSG couldn't win the match and it showed that their cooperation was not perfect. And one more thing, Manchester City is a big team with famous players and coaches, I was surprised by what @Yogee said about not having a big name.

[blackened515]

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

I also agree, because at first PSG never beat City in those 5 matches they played together (correct me if I'm wrong). In the last semi-final, PSG lost both games.
However, at theat time PSG didn't have Mbappé Messi and Neymar together, and maybe it's a good opportunity to bet against the statistics, put faith in PSG and hope for a victory against City to earn some good money?
I don't like bet against stats, but I'm tempted to go with PSG, who else?

That encounter is really going to be a tough game to watch,a tough match for Mancity and PSG.Nevertheless,with the big names that PSG have in their disposal,the likes of Messi,Mbape and Neymar,they will hoping for a win,but trust me,Mancity is going to destroy them with goals.It is a straight over 2.5 match to play,and it is a direct win for Mancity trust me.The three wise men infront of PSG attack have not blended,they not understood each other's pattern,so that is where the problem is going come from,and that will allow Mancity to defeat them.

The match will indeed be tough, as both teams have strong squad. But, i don't think Man City will win. To me, the match is likely to end draw. And more over, is a home match for PSG, they will try their possible best not to lose, not after been dropped out of the Champion League last season by Manchester City. However, i will be betting Over 2.5 , because many goals will be scored. I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

[NotATether]

...I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

You mean, if he is fit in time against City (he sustained a minor injury during the match against Lyon and is a doubt for this game).

[minairia3]

The match will indeed be tough, as both teams have strong squad. But, i don't think Man City will win. To me, the match is likely to end draw. And more over, is a home match for PSG, they will try their possible best not to lose, not after been dropped out of the Champion League last season by Manchester City. However, i will be betting Over 2.5 , because many goals will be scored. I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

If I consider the performance of the last few matches, I can see that the performance of Manchester City is much more stable than that of PSG. Manchester City scored 6 goals against Leipzig. PSG needs Ramos in this match. PSG's attack has not been very active in the last few matches. They can't attack too much. They must solve all the problems before playing against Manchester City. Otherwise, PSG will suffer a miserable defeat. This is Coach Guardiola's team. It cannot be considered weak.

[poldanmig]

...I can't wait to see what Messi have to offer in the game. I guess, he will probably score.

You mean, if he is fit in time against City (he sustained a minor injury during the match against Lyon and is a doubt for this game).

I think the match against Manchester City will be a real testament to PSG in the Champions League competition, moreover they got a negative result in their first match, I think both of them will certainly field their best squad in the next match and it is certain that Messi will return to be one of the hopes for PSG to be able to win.
So far, Messi condition is good and there is no news that he was injured after the game against Lyon, as far as I know, Messi was sent off in the Lyon match because Pochettino didn't want Messi to get injured in the sense that Messi was not injured at all.

[KTChampions]

I really don't understand what Messi was up to. I know that Guardiola didn't beg him for him to come to Manchester City. But I'm pretty sure that he would be very OK to see his old player at his new team. But Messi still didn't want to go there and chose the wrong way I think. Because Manchester City had the same game plan that Messi was already accustomed to. If he was at Manchester City now, he would adapt to the team very quickly and he would have a bigger chance to achieve the Champions League title too.

In the English championship, historically tougher wrestling and contact football, technical players without good physical data for wrestling suffer greatly here, so Messi did everything right, this championship is not for him.

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Interestingly enough, even when playing away, City is considered the favorite in the upcoming game, judging by the chances of the bookmakers:
2.79 - 3.86 -2.44

No surprise with the odds. Man City looks more "compact" and dominant even though they do not have the biggest names. This could turn out to be an embarrassing loss for PSG to be honest but let's see how this goes. I will try to watch for this game and bet live. I am hoping PSG to take the lead early in the first half to have betters odds for Man City.

Perhaps if these were matches in the playoff series, I would bet on City, but this is not an important match and it is unlikely that they will give their best at 100%. A draw here seems to me the most likely outcome.

[Bilgent]

I really don't understand what Messi was up to. I know that Guardiola didn't beg him for him to come to Manchester City. But I'm pretty sure that he would be very OK to see his old player at his new team. But Messi still didn't want to go there and chose the wrong way I think. Because Manchester City had the same game plan that Messi was already accustomed to. If he was at Manchester City now, he would adapt to the team very quickly and he would have a bigger chance to achieve the Champions League title too.

In the English championship, historically tougher wrestling and contact football, technical players without good physical data for wrestling suffer greatly here, so Messi did everything right, this championship is not for him.

It is true that you are saying. The English Premier League is a really tough one and it is not for every kind of player. However, Manchester City are not comprised of strong players all. We can give some examples like Raheem Sterling, Gabriel Jesus etc.. These are not very strong players in terms of physical. But they are strong in terms of talent and quickness. And a player like Messi would fit Manchester City a lot. Maybe he wouldn't be able to perform the same when it comes to one-to-ones. But with a decent passing game, he would do a great job.

[tyz]

If I consider the performance of the last few matches, I can see that the performance of Manchester City is much more stable than that of PSG. Manchester City scored 6 goals against Leipzig. PSG needs Ramos in this match. PSG's attack has not been very active in the last few matches. They can't attack too much. They must solve all the problems before playing against Manchester City. Otherwise, PSG will suffer a miserable defeat. This is Coach Guardiola's team. It cannot be considered weak.

If you leave out the previous European Cup games, the picture is a bit different. PSG has scored the maximum points in the league (6 games, 6 wins), while ManCity has won only three of five league games. A lot will depend on how PSG is positioned. If Neymar, Messi and Mbappe will start together again, then ManCity is my favorite. I still remain of the opinion that Neymar and Messi do not work together very well. Neither in the past at Barca, nor today at PSG.

[ziyaaa]

In the biggest game of the next week between PSG and Manchester City, I see Manchester City as one step ahead.  Because I still see some problems at PSG. As Messi is still struggling, it affects the team badly. We still haven't seen the trio we want. City might benefit from their weakness and get an advantageous result I think.

[condoras]

If I consider the performance of the last few matches, I can see that the performance of Manchester City is much more stable than that of PSG. Manchester City scored 6 goals against Leipzig. PSG needs Ramos in this match. PSG's attack has not been very active in the last few matches. They can't attack too much. They must solve all the problems before playing against Manchester City. Otherwise, PSG will suffer a miserable defeat. This is Coach Guardiola's team. It cannot be considered weak.

If you leave out the previous European Cup games, the picture is a bit different. PSG has scored the maximum points in the league (6 games, 6 wins), while ManCity has won only three of five league games. A lot will depend on how PSG is positioned. If Neymar, Messi and Mbappe will start together again, then ManCity is my favorite. I still remain of the opinion that Neymar and Messi do not work together very well. Neither in the past at Barca, nor today at PSG.

Perhaps that's the issue for PSG but on the other hand, these three players should not be the problem since they are the best. The only issue IMO is that someone has to mark when PSG defending and none of them do it. Maybe Pochettino considers changing the formation a bit, he knows Man City very well...

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If I consider the performance of the last few matches, I can see that the performance of Manchester City is much more stable than that of PSG. Manchester City scored 6 goals against Leipzig. PSG needs Ramos in this match. PSG's attack has not been very active in the last few matches. They can't attack too much. They must solve all the problems before playing against Manchester City. Otherwise, PSG will suffer a miserable defeat. This is Coach Guardiola's team. It cannot be considered weak.

If you leave out the previous European Cup games, the picture is a bit different. PSG has scored the maximum points in the league (6 games, 6 wins), while ManCity has won only three of five league games. A lot will depend on how PSG is positioned. If Neymar, Messi and Mbappe will start together again, then ManCity is my favorite. I still remain of the opinion that Neymar and Messi do not work together very well. Neither in the past at Barca, nor today at PSG.

But I believe if this trio of stars from PSG play together, of course this will be a concern for Pep Guardiola because there is no doubt that they will be solid in the match against Manchester city in the UCL preliminary round.

Of course, many doubt these three star players because their cooperation on the field is still not effective enough so for me Pochettino must be able to set the right position with a new strategy style.

But PSG's biggest target is the UCL, so players will be pressured to win as much as possible.

[panjul07]

In the biggest game of the next week between PSG and Manchester City, I see Manchester City as one step ahead.  Because I still see some problems at PSG. As Messi is still struggling, it affects the team badly. We still haven't seen the trio we want. City might benefit from their weakness and get an advantageous result I think.

Both teams still has some problems, PSG's problem is in how to maximize the trio Messi Mbappe Neymar and City's problem is on its defense.
City conceded 3 goals against Leipzig which was something unpredictable so if Pochettino  is able to manage their star players with the best strategy, it can be something very dangerous for City.
City is a bit in difficult situation since they have to play against 2 big team in few days gap. on 25th, City will play against Chelsea and on 29th they will play against PSG.
Hard homework for Guardiola to manage the team as both matches are very important.

[Yogee]

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And one more thing, Manchester City is a big team with famous players and coaches, I was surprised by what @Yogee said about not having a big name.

"...they do not have the biggest names" is what I said and that's completely different from "not having a big name". They surely have recognizable players but not bigger than Messi or even Neymar. Name a player in Man City that's more popular than those two in global football if you still insist.

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but this is not an important match and it is unlikely that they will give their best at 100%. A draw here seems to me the most likely outcome.

It's still the Champions League and they are up against another top club but I can see the not 100% argument because of their tight schedule. They could be force to shuffle or balance the team to be fielded against Chelsea and PSG.