⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Silberman]

We are one week away from the PSG - Manchester City game. This will also be a great game and the game of the week most probably. For now, it seems like PSG's great trio don't play the way we want. Because Messi is still making an effort to adapt to the game plan. After he starts playing like always, they can be unstoppable. But now, Manchester City are one step ahead I think. But I have no doubt that we will still watch a competitive game. I expect each team to score.

I think this is the game everyone wants to watch as a fan of soccer as the two teams are so good that we do not expect anything but the best from both teams, however the chemistry is still not there on the PSG, so this comes a little bit early and the match may not be as good as we thought, however those three are so amazing that even with below average chemistry they could always pull out some incredible play on their own and win the game that way.

[3meek]

In the biggest game of the next week between PSG and Manchester City, I see Manchester City as one step ahead.  Because I still see some problems at PSG. As Messi is still struggling, it affects the team badly. We still haven't seen the trio we want. City might benefit from their weakness and get an advantageous result I think.

Both teams still has some problems, PSG's problem is in how to maximize the trio Messi Mbappe Neymar and City's problem is on its defense.
City conceded 3 goals against Leipzig which was something unpredictable so if Pochettino  is able to manage their star players with the best strategy, it can be something very dangerous for City.
City is a bit in difficult situation since they have to play against 2 big team in few days gap. on 25th, City will play against Chelsea and on 29th they will play against PSG.
Hard homework for Guardiola to manage the team as both matches are very important.

It seems to me that the home championship is not as important to City as the Champions League in this case! Probably in the match against Chelsea some players won't perform or play for a long time...

I think City will beat PSG too! All their stars don't matter if the team has no interaction!

[CLS63]

We have a great game next week which is PSG vs Manchester City.

I see that PSG are struggling to get wins lately. I know that they have won their first 7 games in the Ligue 1. But their last results are really interesting. They barely managed to win their last two games against Lyon and Metz for example. They won both of them with last minute goals. This is not very good for a team like PSG. And we know also that they drew with Club Brugge also in the Champions League in their first game. With or without Messi, there is an in-team problem and they need to get rid of it. Otherwise, I don't see their chance being really big against City here. City might not lose this game.

[Juggy777]

We have a great game next week which is PSG vs Manchester City.

I see that PSG are struggling to get wins lately. I know that they have won their first 7 games in the Ligue 1. But their last results are really interesting. They barely managed to win their last two games against Lyon and Metz for example. They won both of them with last minute goals. This is not very good for a team like PSG. And we know also that they drew with Club Brugge also in the Champions League in their first game. With or without Messi, there is an in-team problem and they need to get rid of it. Otherwise, I don't see their chance being really big against City here. City might not lose this game.

@CLS63 Manchester City are not unstoppable as we saw last week when they drew against Southampton, and it’s clear that both the teams have strong squad but yet they’re equally weak too and thus this makes it an open contest.

Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.

Source:

https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/news/scared-of-dias-finished-player-plenty-of-man-city-fans-react-to-lionel-messi-injury-update-ahead-of-psg-clash

[KTChampions]

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but this is not an important match and it is unlikely that they will give their best at 100%. A draw here seems to me the most likely outcome.

It's still the Champions League and they are up against another top club but I can see the not 100% argument because of their tight schedule. They could be force to shuffle or balance the team to be fielded against Chelsea and PSG.

The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.

[babo]

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but this is not an important match and it is unlikely that they will give their best at 100%. A draw here seems to me the most likely outcome.

It's still the Champions League and they are up against another top club but I can see the not 100% argument because of their tight schedule. They could be force to shuffle or balance the team to be fielded against Chelsea and PSG.

The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.

PSG is a somewhat particular team
let's say, if you want, it's a bit like Inter Milan

rich in talents, little amalgamated with each other

the problem is that they can play crap or if they are inspired to become a tank

[Kusman]

@CLS63 Manchester City are not unstoppable as we saw last week when they drew against Southampton, and it’s clear that both the teams have strong squad but yet they’re equally weak too and thus this makes it an open contest.

Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.

Source:

https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/news/scared-of-dias-finished-player-plenty-of-man-city-fans-react-to-lionel-messi-injury-update-ahead-of-psg-clash

It is true that Manchester City can be beaten by PSG also. But both of these teams aren't in a very advantageous situation in this match. Both sides can get a win actually. But I feel like a draw might be the result of this match. But both sides should be able to score goals easily. And when it comes to Messi, he still hasn't adapted to the team so his absence won't matter too much for them I think. After he starts to play better, then he will be an important part of the team.

[masulum]

Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.

I think against City it will make a difference for PSG compared to the first game. PSG players will concentrate more on winning this match. PSG's failure in the first match, could be because the players underestimated their opponents. Of course it will be different when dealing with big teams, players will be more excited to compete and focus to win from the start. but if they are lose, and Club Brugge win over Leipzig, they are still can be strong candidate for qualified club to the next phase.

[KTChampions]

The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.

PSG is a somewhat particular team
let's say, if you want, it's a bit like Inter Milan

rich in talents, little amalgamated with each other

the problem is that they can play crap or if they are inspired to become a tank

For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.

[kassex]

The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.

PSG is a somewhat particular team
let's say, if you want, it's a bit like Inter Milan

rich in talents, little amalgamated with each other

the problem is that they can play crap or if they are inspired to become a tank

For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.

Messi needs more time to get used to the new team and the way of playing. It will take a couple of months if not more. Last year, and in Barcelona, ​​Messi took several months to get in optimal shape and start showing the game that is expected of him. Mbappe is already thinking in Madrid, and you shouldn't expect an enchanting game from him this season.

[Spack17]

The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.

PSG is a somewhat particular team
let's say, if you want, it's a bit like Inter Milan

rich in talents, little amalgamated with each other

the problem is that they can play crap or if they are inspired to become a tank

For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.

PSG are really having a tough time lately. I'm aware of their winning all of their league matches so far. But this doesn't prove anything yet. By the way, they struggled a lot in their last two league matches. And they had a big difficulty against C. Brugge in the CL also. Messi needs time to start playing better. In the match against City, I think that they won't be able to win but both teams will score.

[icopress]

Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG [...]

A very insightful thought, in fact, this is all there is to know about the current state of PSG.

I also think that their unbeaten streak in the league itself is a mockery, since judging by the ratio of the budget, Pochettino wipes his ass with a set of fair-play rules. But that's not all ... since judging by the news, the players are completely overwhelmed by star fever, Messi using sign language told the head coach "fuck you" and Mpabe immediately after the victory over Metz sent the goalkeeper to fuck. 

[ShowOff]

I think against City it will make a difference for PSG compared to the first game. PSG players will concentrate more on winning this match. PSG's failure in the first match, could be because the players underestimated their opponents. Of course it will be different when dealing with big teams, players will be more excited to compete and focus to win from the start. but if they are lose, and Club Brugge win over Leipzig, they are still can be strong candidate for qualified club to the next phase.

From the line-up we can see that neither the coach nor the players underestimated Club Brugge in the first game yesterday. PSG played their best players and played with great concentration. I watched the match and I think Brugge managed to keep up with PSG because they played quite well and also with a lot of pressure. Nobody underestimates Brugge if we judge by the players the coach has played. PSG just unlucky to create chances into goals. In that match I also saw that Messi had not blended in with other players at PSG so his performance was not optimal.

Obviously without Messi vs Manchester City will not make PSG's attack weak, they have Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi and other players. I don't think they will lose the motivation to win. This will be a highly anticipated match because both team need a win to open the chance to qualify for the next round.

[babo]

The teams approach this match in different situations - City has 3 points, and PSG have two lost in the match with an outsider. Therefore, the defeat for PSG will be very alarming, so they will play almost at the limit. But will City tense up? Even if they lose, they still have a home game against PSG and potentially better results against the other two teams. Therefore, if we assume that City is much stronger than PSG now, but will not play to the limit of their capabilities, and PSG will be, then PSG may draw or win.

PSG is a somewhat particular team
let's say, if you want, it's a bit like Inter Milan

rich in talents, little amalgamated with each other

the problem is that they can play crap or if they are inspired to become a tank

For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.

Messi needs more time to get used to the new team and the way of playing. It will take a couple of months if not more. Last year, and in Barcelona, ​​Messi took several months to get in optimal shape and start showing the game that is expected of him. Mbappe is already thinking in Madrid, and you shouldn't expect an enchanting game from him this season.

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he needs time, because he has played for many years with only one team with a new style
it is completely normal that a few months must pass before it gives its best


give it time and you will see that it will return to do magic

[AakZaki]

Perhaps that's the issue for PSG but on the other hand, these three players should not be the problem since they are the best. The only issue IMO is that someone has to mark when PSG defending and none of them do it. Maybe Pochettino considers changing the formation a bit, he knows Man City very well...

Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.
Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.

I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.

[Raflesia]

Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.
Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.

I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.

Pep Guardiola has very good experience and has even led a winning team with Barcelona, while PSG have a myriad of talented players from striker to defense and goalkeeper, however Pochettino must be able to take advantage of opportunities where he is surrounded by talented players.

In other games I'm pretty sure Chelsea can beat Juventus.
Manchester United is also capable of overthrowing Villareal. I'm sure if there is Ronaldo, Manchester United will have a good improvement.

[fullhdpixel]

It seems to me that the home championship is not as important to City as the Champions League in this case! Probably in the match against Chelsea some players won't perform or play for a long time...

I think City will beat PSG too! All their stars don't matter if the team has no interaction!

The reason why City cares about UCL so much is that they have managed to win premier league multiple times under Pep Guardiola but never won UCL during that same period. Which means that the only cup they are missing right now is UCL and if they can get that as well then the journey will be completed (not that he needs to leave, but he got what he wanted so he wouldn't have high goals).

I would assume that Kane would have been an amazing addition for UCL, without him they could still win Premier League, they won it without him so many times now, however with him they would have been great at UCL, that is why they were willing to spend 100+ million on a single player, just for UCL.

[alpamar99]

Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.

I think against City it will make a difference for PSG compared to the first game. PSG players will concentrate more on winning this match. PSG's failure in the first match, could be because the players underestimated their opponents. Of course it will be different when dealing with big teams, players will be more excited to compete and focus to win from the start. but if they are lose, and Club Brugge win over Leipzig, they are still can be strong candidate for qualified club to the next phase.

seems to be true because this point is very important for them because considering their first match which was predicted to win easily, the result was much different.
and in the second match in the group phase, I think PSG should start to be better at taking the initiative and build better cooperation, especially in the front lines, where it seems that the players have their own level of selfishness.
On the other hand, I think it will be quite an exciting match considering that these two clubs are currently labeled as rich clubs and their players cannot be underestimated because they already have famous names.

[KTChampions]

For me PSG is a money bag and nothing more, I would not compare this team with Inter or Milan. PSG is more like City but in bad shape right now. Maybe if Mbappé thinks more about the game and not about the transition to Real, Neymar is more to play than to pretend and Messi somehow integrates into the team PSG will represent a strong contender for victory in the Champions League.

Messi needs more time to get used to the new team and the way of playing. It will take a couple of months if not more. Last year, and in Barcelona, ​​Messi took several months to get in optimal shape and start showing the game that is expected of him. Mbappe is already thinking in Madrid, and you shouldn't expect an enchanting game from him this season.

I think that it's not only about getting used to it, but about the realization that the old days have passed and due to age it will no longer be possible to be top-1. He need to benefit the team and not wait for the whole team to play on him, PSG has such a strong line-up that the competition is strong for every position.
In general, I will refrain from betting in the PSG - City match due to its randomness, but I think, given the difficult situation of PSG, it will be very interesting.

[nelson4lov]

Of course it's very interesting, I look forward to City winning. Pep has more experience than Pochettino. Maybe 1-0 to City.
Apart from that I am interested in other matches.
1. Juventus vs Chelsea.
2. Manchester United vs Villarreal.

I chose Chelsea and Manchester United to win. Their squad looks better at the moment.

I miss the days when we'd see fixtures like Juventus vs Chelsea and make conclusions about Juve winning with no problem almost like a guaranteed result. They're still yet to get their first win this season iirc. Definitely a Chelsea win.  Man Utd should get their revenge against a Villarreal team. They've a better squad. Hopefully Tuchel won't mess things up.