⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[blackened515]

Beşiktaş played better than I thought. If they had been able to score a goal in the first minutes of the match, the outcome could have been much different. I think they will perform much better in their next matches.
It is not possible to say good things about PSG. I was sad that the match ended with such a score, they should have scored a lot more goals

Despite the fact that Besiktas lost the match, their performance was okay imo. However, I don't think winning their next match will be an easy task for them. They will be playing against Ajax. The match will probably be a tough one for them. Although, am not underrating Basiktas, they might put in enough effort against Ajax and win the match.
I never expected PSG to draw the match, they were supposed to win, after the first half ended in draw. I literally thought PSG will score in the second half. Anyway, the second half also ended in draw.

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[babo]

Villarreal played in the final against Manchester United. Of course, Atalanta is quite an interesting team that plays in an attacking style. But do not underestimate Villarreal. I hope that it will be a rather interesting game and we will enjoy watching this match.

absolutely no
I do not underestimate anyone, also because in football even a very small team with poor players can win if they play as a team

in fact, football is a team game

in individual games it depends only on you and not on the team

[KTChampions]

absolutely no
I do not underestimate anyone, also because in football even a very small team with poor players can win if they play as a team

in fact, football is a team game

in individual games it depends only on you and not on the team

Yes, it is possible, and it is especially likely in elimination matches. In a long championship, when each team plays each team at home and away and the champion is determined by the number of points scored, the little poor teams, no matter how well they play, have no chance. In shorter tournaments and where there are elimination matches, small teams have a chance at the expense of greater randomness over short distances.

[babo]

absolutely no
I do not underestimate anyone, also because in football even a very small team with poor players can win if they play as a team

in fact, football is a team game

in individual games it depends only on you and not on the team

Yes, it is possible, and it is especially likely in elimination matches. In a long championship, when each team plays each team at home and away and the champion is determined by the number of points scored, the little poor teams, no matter how well they play, have no chance. In shorter tournaments and where there are elimination matches, small teams have a chance at the expense of greater randomness over short distances.

depends
what do you mean by a long championship or a short championship?
Is the premier league a short league?

I have seen poor teams win Europeans, as a premier league, of course it happens rarely .. but it happens

[boltz]

No team is weak as long as they reached UCL. They all mocked Sheriff Tiraspol and boom they won another game against Shaktar who is a great team of Europe. Also , whoever thought that Milan will go in Liverpool just to get goals they were so wrong as Milan almost snatched a draw against a team who has the same players for 3 years now making very hard for any team to play against them.

Besides this, lets not forget that the most ugly game of the season will probably remain ATL.Madrid - Porto and it's time for us to admit that a team like Atl.Madrid is just bad for football...

[mv1986]

Although Messi-Neymar-Mbappe seemed to be very strong players, they were not very effective. Together they could not adapt themselves.

Those three strikers are strong players, but strikers must have big supports from the midfielders to have a chance of shooting on target. Not only those 3 strikers can't adapt well, the midfielders also didn't play as well as we expect in that match. I don't know why it seems too difficult for them to adapt although they are basically smart players. I suspect it isn't only about adaptation to whole players, but adaptation to the strategy and instruction made by the coach.

While that is generally true, you would definitely expect the three to also create their chances on their own (as a trio I mean). Then again surprises are always possible, same with Young Boys and Manchester United. Sometimes it is even a bit harder during the group stage against smaller clubs because for them every game is like a final.
I would definitely say that PSG is going to play an important role during this tournament.

[CryptocurencyKing]

After this game, I think Pochettino will try to figure out the best combination of players. I don't know if we should see Mbappe, Neymar and Messi at the same time from the beginning. It might look better to not start with them and play with Icardi or Di Maria then switch tactics and players to confuse the opponent.
BTW AFAIK PSG is the most favourite team to get CL title this season according to bookies. I doubt Real Madrid could get it, Chelsea, City and ManU are way better, even PSG is better regardless of this bad result.

I do not think that it was the combination of players that was the problem, it was just the team getting used to it. Have we ever seen Mbappe-Neymar-Messi before this game? I do not think that we have seen them before and this was the first time. So, let's not rush into changing the roster constantly in order to get the team playing better, we could just let the roster be exactly like it is and we would have a better team gradually when they get used to playing with each other.

Neymar and Messi played before so they shouldn't be too difficult but Mbappe is not used to Messi and that will take some time but it will eventually happen. I am just still so shocked that they are using Navas at goalkeeping position, just doesn't make sense at all.

I think their champions league opener didn't go to plan. With their striking trident starting together for the first time, expectations were high. I see people criticizing already, and blaming the front three for the disappointing draw against Club Brugge. I don't know if they understand the basics of football. These players need time to gel, time to understand themselves on the pitch an to play together to succeed. Mauricio Pochettino need to play this trio together more so that can have chemistry and fluidity to stay consistent. I would prefer a Neymar, Di maria and Messi front three. For Gianluigi Donnarumma to replace Keylor Navas at the moment, I don't agree with you on this one. Keylor Navas has more experience in the champions league than almost all the Goalkeepers still playing. He is just underrated because of his age and maybe he is never in the limelight. Gianluigi Donnarumma needs to exercise a little patience and wait for his turn.

[tyz]

after two match Lionel Messi still not make anything for PSG exactly on champion league when played draw with Club Brugge, without any one shot and not any assist made by Lionel Messi make many fans not happy with Leo performance for PSG, can he give more expectation on PSG or not.

I understand that fans prolly want an immediate impact from Lionel Messi, but imo, they must have to be patient with the Argentine, we are all aware of the quality he possesses, but we must also not forget that he spent almost all of his career in Barcelona, and PSG is more or less a new territory to him and he must have to adapt to how they play, I'm pretty sure Messi will have a successful spell for PSG, at least from am individual perspective.

The big question is whether so many superstars can play together without problems. In the last CL game, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were on the pitch from the start for the first time and we all know how the game turned out. PSG was not really outstanding. Bruges had a good chance to even win the game. On paper, PSG should have dominated the game and won clearly. The next CL game is against ManCity. That will show how strong PSG really is.

[babo]

Although Messi-Neymar-Mbappe seemed to be very strong players, they were not very effective. Together they could not adapt themselves.

Those three strikers are strong players, but strikers must have big supports from the midfielders to have a chance of shooting on target. Not only those 3 strikers can't adapt well, the midfielders also didn't play as well as we expect in that match. I don't know why it seems too difficult for them to adapt although they are basically smart players. I suspect it isn't only about adaptation to whole players, but adaptation to the strategy and instruction made by the coach.

While that is generally true, you would definitely expect the three to also create their chances on their own (as a trio I mean). Then again surprises are always possible, same with Young Boys and Manchester United. Sometimes it is even a bit harder during the group stage against smaller clubs because for them every game is like a final.
I would definitely say that PSG is going to play an important role during this tournament.

look at the most important thing
I always say that, I almost make you nauseous, it's fun
so if they ensure fun for us fans, everything is welcome

honestly that's what matters and they get paid to entertain us, i think so

[masulum]

AC Milan got lucky with draw score between Atletico Madrid versus FC Porto and they have not far points right now, but always faced difficulty after Milan loss chance to get points on Anfield, how ever Milan have very hard group stage where bigger team like Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and FC Porto where last season success pass to knock out stage. Next match Milan faced with Atletico Madrid on San Siro and both team need three points to make easy pass on group stage. Depend with AC Milan can win for the next match and hope Liverpool versus FC Porto just get draw only to make point fourth team not far each other.

I think it's still tough for AC Milan to win the game against Atletico despite playing at the San Siro. If AC Milan manages to win with a score 1 - 0, I think this is good result for Milan against ATM. As for Liverpool vs Porto, I think Liverpool will get another win. However, if Milan vs Atletico draw, Liverpool vs Porto also ends in a draw, then this group will be an interesting group. Because all teams will play all out in match 3 to keep the chance of qualifying for the next round.

[hahay]

after two match Lionel Messi still not make anything for PSG exactly on champion league when played draw with Club Brugge, without any one shot and not any assist made by Lionel Messi make many fans not happy with Leo performance for PSG, can he give more expectation on PSG or not.

I understand that fans prolly want an immediate impact from Lionel Messi, but imo, they must have to be patient with the Argentine, we are all aware of the quality he possesses, but we must also not forget that he spent almost all of his career in Barcelona, and PSG is more or less a new territory to him and he must have to adapt to how they play, I'm pretty sure Messi will have a successful spell for PSG, at least from am individual perspective.

The big question is whether so many superstars can play together without problems. In the last CL game, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were on the pitch from the start for the first time and we all know how the game turned out. PSG was not really outstanding. Bruges had a good chance to even win the game. On paper, PSG should have dominated the game and won clearly. The next CL game is against ManCity. That will show how strong PSG really is.

If relying on individual skills then it doesn't have to take time to adapt, it's about teamwork and chemistry. If only with individual skills they can move on their own then the result will be quick to get a positive result in yesterday's match, but the fact is not so they have to keep building chemistry so that the support for their every move continues well in the match.

[BlackViruse]

The big question is whether so many superstars can play together without problems. In the last CL game, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were on the pitch from the start for the first time and we all know how the game turned out. PSG was not really outstanding. Bruges had a good chance to even win the game. On paper, PSG should have dominated the game and won clearly. The next CL game is against ManCity. That will show how strong PSG really is.

Yea so many superstars can do it together, Messi did it with Henry and Samuel eto behide them was Iniesta and Xavi with Toure in the center.then there was Suarez and Neymar, Messi.all this regimes in Barcelona won the champions League and other titles together. even at Madrid CR7, Benzema,and Bale with great midfenders behind them,so is very easy for great players to play together. I believe the team we gear with time,Messi makes football easy with what will have see during his time at Barcelona he is still that player.am positive about that team ( PSG)

[icopress]

The big question is whether so many superstars can play together without problems. In the last CL game, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were on the pitch from the start for the first time and we all know how the game turned out. PSG was not really outstanding. Bruges had a good chance to even win the game. On paper, PSG should have dominated the game and won clearly. The next CL game is against ManCity. That will show how strong PSG really is.

I think if PSG again have Neymar, Messi, Mbappe against Manchester City, then they will not have a chance, since they will not have a clear leader to oppose Guardiola's excellent built defense. Interestingly, in the first round of the Champions League, Cristiano Ronaldo, like Messi, calmed down his ambitions, while Manchester City won the 50th Champions League victory in just 91 matches. ^{[Three matches slower than Real Madrid did]}

[KTChampions]

Yes, it is possible, and it is especially likely in elimination matches. In a long championship, when each team plays each team at home and away and the champion is determined by the number of points scored, the little poor teams, no matter how well they play, have no chance. In shorter tournaments and where there are elimination matches, small teams have a chance at the expense of greater randomness over short distances.

depends
what do you mean by a long championship or a short championship?
Is the premier league a short league?

I have seen poor teams win Europeans, as a premier league, of course it happens rarely .. but it happens

Of course, the Premier League refers to long championships - 38 games and this number is the same for any team, no one is eliminated until the very end. For comparison, in the Champions League, a team can play a maximum of 13 games. And if things went unsuccessfully, then after the first 6 games (group stage) the team can leave the tournament.

[Maidak]

The big question is whether so many superstars can play together without problems. In the last CL game, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were on the pitch from the start for the first time and we all know how the game turned out. PSG was not really outstanding. Bruges had a good chance to even win the game. On paper, PSG should have dominated the game and won clearly. The next CL game is against ManCity. That will show how strong PSG really is.

I think if PSG again have Neymar, Messi, Mbappe against Manchester City, then they will not have a chance, since they will not have a clear leader to oppose Guardiola's excellent built defense. Interestingly, in the first round of the Champions League, Cristiano Ronaldo, like Messi, calmed down his ambitions, while Manchester City won the 50th Champions League victory in just 91 matches. ^{[Three matches slower than Real Madrid did]}

PSG team players are not friendly. Understanding among themselves is not good. They have done terribly in the previous match. They have relied entirely on Mbappe and Messi. They did not perform as a team. If the bonding between the players is not good, there will never be a good performance. The coach now has to adopt a new strategy. The opponent is Guardiola. It is important to remember Pocchetinno.

[kawetsriyanto]

If relying on individual skills then it doesn't have to take time to adapt, it's about teamwork and chemistry.

True. PSG players have a problem with their teamwork and chemistry. They still cannot find a proper way to know each other very well. Although those players are skillful and experienced, they cannot play individually. Winning the match requires solidly among players, they mustn't focus on their own qualities. In this matter, I think the captain and the coach have the biggest role to find a way to create good chemistry among players. Also, to build good teamwork when they playing in the match.

[borovichok]

If relying on individual skills then it doesn't have to take time to adapt, it's about teamwork and chemistry.

True. PSG players have a problem with their teamwork and chemistry. They still cannot find a proper way to know each other very well. Although those players are skillful and experienced, they cannot play individually. Winning the match requires solidly among players, they mustn't focus on their own qualities. In this matter, I think the captain and the coach have the biggest role to find a way to create good chemistry among players. Also, to build good teamwork when they playing in the match.

They need a more deciplined manager to talk to this players, you can not play a team full of 11 stars, there must be a mixture of stars and normal good players who can do thee team work and not all about individual play. Poch is not tagg man, they need someone like Jose Mourinho with no fear factor

[fullhdpixel]

While that is generally true, you would definitely expect the three to also create their chances on their own (as a trio I mean). Then again surprises are always possible, same with Young Boys and Manchester United. Sometimes it is even a bit harder during the group stage against smaller clubs because for them every game is like a final.
I would definitely say that PSG is going to play an important role during this tournament.

I do not understand how people are expecting Mbappe and Messi to be getting along very well. Mbappe is literally rejecting offers from PSG to extend his contract and is willing to leave the team for free, dude wants to go to Real Madrid because he likes Ronaldo so much and does or did hated Messi, he was a Ronaldo fanboy when he was younger and if you asked him if he would trade Messi and Ronaldo from psg to united today in exchange for extending his contract, dude would sign a 5 year contract at PSG for that trade.

So, this is just senseless and useless talk about how these trio will get along, they won't because two of them basically hate each other at worst, dislike each other at best. Neymar is at the between, he played with Messi and likes him, and playing with Mbappe for how many years and likes him too, he is like that friend during break up who doesn't know who to continue be friends with.

[blackened515]

Zenit defense was good during their first Champion League match against Chelsea and I thought the match will end draw, but unfortunately the Blues managed to score in the second half. Although, Chelsea dominated the match, but couldn't score in the first half, Lukaku scored in 69 minutes. And Chelsea achieved 3 points.
While Sheriff, been the first Moldovan National Division club to qualify and played in the Champion League group stage. And they won their first match which was against Shakhtar Donetsk. However, they are leading on their group table and will face Real Madrid in their next CL match, which will definitely be tough for them to win. They have to put in great effort in order to excel in the Champion League.

[Kusman]

Zenit defense was good during their first Champion League match against Chelsea and I thought the match will end draw, but unfortunately the Blues managed to score in the second half. Although, Chelsea dominated the match, but couldn't score in the first half, Lukaku scored in 69 minutes. And Chelsea achieved 3 points.
While Sheriff, been the first Moldovan National Division club to qualify and played in the Champion League group stage. And they won their first match which was against Shakhtar Donetsk. However, they are leading on their group table and will face Real Madrid in their next CL match, which will definitely be tough for them to win. They have to put in great effort in order to excel in the Champion League.

I think that the Chelsea - Zenit match was quite interesting as we watched only one goal in the whole match. Actually not only Chelsea but also Zenit are very capable of scoring easily. But Chelsea are much different with Tuchel now. Their defense is just superb I mean. They don't concede goals easily anymore and they are much better as for scoring goals after signing Lukaku too. A 1-0 victory wasn't very satisfying but they still won the match of course and that is the important part.