⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[CryptoBuds]

There is only one week left for the first games of the new Champions League season. We see a much stronger PSG and Manchester United now after signing Messi and Ronaldo. I don't know if Manchester United can make it to the final. But I believe in PSG to make it there very much. As long as Messi adapts to this new game plan, things will get much easier for them. This time, they should be able to win the title with the new trio.

So, it's all just about Messi and Ronaldo?
For me it can't be used as a guarantee but about PSG, I still see it as a team that might make it to the final but not for Manchester United. It's not about Messi and Ronaldo, because the two teams have different squad depths and in this case PSG are still the most superior compared to United. There are still many other top teams and even though Ronaldo has returned to Manchester United, but for me United will still find it difficult to go further even to reach the semi-finals for Manchester United I still doubt it.

I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

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[joker_josue]

I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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That's exactly one of the reasons I stated "Messi can adapt well to PSG game style" because he already knows well some key players in PSG. Regarding adaptation with Wijnaldum and Mbappe, I think he just needs less than 5 matches to know well their characteristics in playing. Messi is a smart player and it makes him can reach the top level, so we don't be afraid he can adapt with all PSG players. Also, he is already experiencing as a captain of Argentina's national team for some years. It makes him have a great ability to know each player's characteristics.

Honestly he won Copa America finally this year, but he has been playing with his national team for so long without winning anything at all. That should tell you that it is not always so easy for Messi to adapt to any player that easily, certainly not under 5 games. However, these players are not that much of a stranger to him, I still think Mbappe will be a difficult one but aside from that PSG will definitely be a team that is dangerous to play for anyone in the world. They just need to build chemistry up, forget about all this Mbappe crisis, play to win and get a good strategy from the manager that will be perfect fit for this club as well.

It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post. But we can assume that since he is experienced, he will be able to adapt. Because he has previous playing experience with many players on the team. And we have seen in Barcelona how amazing the pairing of Messi and Neymar is. Moreover, Messi has performed well with Di Maria. Yet adapting to new environments and new players is not easy.

[KTChampions]

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

Basically, this applies to cup games where a two-match confrontation (or even a one-match if it is a final) can knock one team out of the tournament. Unfortunately, moneybags achieve results sooner or later in the regular championships (I was very pleased to see how Manchester City could not even come close to the championship in England for many years). I will hope that this year the moneybags will be knocked out by more labor teams.

[Luzin]

The first round and the opening match of the group stage are two matches Frist stage Sevilla Vs Salzburg, Young Boys Vs Manchester United will take place on September 14. In the first match I chose Sevilla and Manchester United to win.
 
September 15, 2021
1. Barcelona vs Bayern Munich
2. Chelsea vs Zenit
3. Dyn. Kiev vs Benfica
4. Lille vs Wolfsburg
5. Malmo FF vs Juventus
6. Villarreal vs Atalanta
7. Besiktas vs Dortmund
8. Sheriff Tiraspol vs Shakhtar

September 16, 2021

1. Atl. Madrid vs FC Porto
2. Club Brugge vs Paris SG
3. Inter vs Real Madrid
4. Liverpool vs AC Milan
5. Manchester City vs RB Leipzig
6. Sporting vs Ajax

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[W Jr.]

games that I will bet because in my opinion they have good odds:


Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona



I'm still analyzing that game, but I'm more inclined to bet on Bayern Munich and BTTS


Real Madrid -  Inter



I'm still analyzing this game too, but I think I'll go for a real madrid victory or maybe I'll bet on the under 3


Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

I'm thinking of betting on BTTS, it will be a game where both teams scored

You made good guesses. For the Ajax - Sporting match, I predict that there will be 3 goals or more. We can watch a game with lots of goals. Inter is a team that can beat Real. Bayern Munich is already the favorite team of their group. A Barcelona that has lost important players from the team cannot beat Bayern.

[Juggy777]

games that I will bet because in my opinion they have good odds:


Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona



I'm still analyzing that game, but I'm more inclined to bet on Bayern Munich and BTTS


Real Madrid -  Inter



I'm still analyzing this game too, but I think I'll go for a real madrid victory or maybe I'll bet on the under 3


Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

I'm thinking of betting on BTTS, it will be a game where both teams scored

You made good guesses. For the Ajax - Sporting match, I predict that there will be 3 goals or more. We can watch a game with lots of goals. Inter is a team that can beat Real. Bayern Munich is already the favorite team of their group. A Barcelona that has lost important players from the team cannot beat Bayern.

I see you have decided to go with the favourites, but this is Champions League so nothing really is guaranteed here. Lastly I too personally feel that Bayern has a big chance of winning against Barcelona, but I don’t see how Inter can beat Real Madrid hence I’ll be choosing Real Madrid to win their fixture against Inter Milan.

[masulum]

Nostalgia Final 2004/05 & 2006/07, Milan and Liverpool are still attached to the hearts of supporters. They now meet again, not in the Final, but will carry each scar in the hearts of supporters. This season Milan no longer have star players like 8 years ago, while Liverpool are slightly have better players than Milan. Milan is expected to win the game to maintain their motivation after several seasons absence in the UCL, while victory must be obtained by Liverpool because they are playing in front of their own fans. Even though it's hard for Milan to win, but Liverpool won't be easy to beat Milan. Maybe Liverpool can only win by 1 goal difference.

[CryptoBuds]

I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

I did not talk about victory or defeat. PSG has a very strong squad. The probability of winning is the highest for them. Now we need skilled coaches. I think Pocchetinno is a good enough coach. There are many star players under him now. It will not be easy to control so many star players. Now I will get proof of my experience and skills.

[DU18]

There is only one week left for the first games of the new Champions League season. We see a much stronger PSG and Manchester United now after signing Messi and Ronaldo. I don't know if Manchester United can make it to the final. But I believe in PSG to make it there very much. As long as Messi adapts to this new game plan, things will get much easier for them. This time, they should be able to win the title with the new trio.

messi and ronaldo are two of the best football players ever today, and of course they will have a very important role to help their club to win champion league this season, I personally never doubted their quality but I'm not sure if they can bring their team to victory , if it is not supported by other players, as we know how the journey of Juventus which continues to fail to win the champions league with Ronaldo, because Juventus only relies too much on Ronaldo without other good players and of course that will also apply when he defends Manchester United at this time.
Personally, I'm more convinced that PSG will win champions league this year, apart from Messi, PSG also has a fairly even squad in every position.

[condoras]

I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

I did not talk about victory or defeat. PSG has a very strong squad. The probability of winning is the highest for them. Now we need skilled coaches. I think Pocchetinno is a good enough coach. There are many star players under him now. It will not be easy to control so many star players. Now I will get proof of my experience and skills.

With so many stars in the team, Pocchetinno doesn't have much to do. In fact, almost all the managers wouldn't need to do much. Strategy and formations are known to all and with this team, I wonder how you can make it wrong. Of course, Pocchetinno is a very good manager and I can't see anything that can go bad (besides injuries). PSG this season is among the 3 teams that I expect to reach the semi-finals...

[fullhdpixel]

I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

Having the better team is a great thing in the league, not so much in UCL. The reason for that is simply because in the league you play 30+ even 40+ in some nations games and that means a great roster will definitely help you become better and get great results in the long run, you are not going to keep losing with a great roster. Which means that we could basically have a champion of the league by just looking at the rosters. Of course this doesn't always happen, sometimes you lose the league even with clear best roster but it is rare and teams with best rosters usually end up winning, or team with top 3 best roster let's say.

UCL is not like that, you play 1-2 games with each team and you may just get lucky, or you may get ready for specifically that team and counter accordingly, this is why Chelsea was capable of winning, all they had to do was win like last 5-6 games and it's done, PSG could have the best ever team but if they lose one game, they are gone.

[kawetsriyanto]

we can assume that since he is experienced, he will be able to adapt. Because he has previous playing experience with many players on the team.

Basically, it is not always easy to adapt but I believe Messi can deal with a new challenge. Not only he has experience playing with various players in his national team, but he is a smart player as well. We can guess he is smart from his playing style and his achievement so far. Another thing that makes him possibly be easier in adaptation is some PSG key players familiar enough with Messi. So, Messi knows how those players style in playing. And it may help him a bit to adapt with the players.

[Lordhermes]

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That's exactly one of the reasons I stated "Messi can adapt well to PSG game style" because he already knows well some key players in PSG. Regarding adaptation with Wijnaldum and Mbappe, I think he just needs less than 5 matches to know well their characteristics in playing. Messi is a smart player and it makes him can reach the top level, so we don't be afraid he can adapt with all PSG players. Also, he is already experiencing as a captain of Argentina's national team for some years. It makes him have a great ability to know each player's characteristics.

Messi's presence in the PSG team will really lift and boost my their moral,and would want to make them win the champions.Thesame impact that Christiano Ronaldo has on Manchester United that Messi will have on PSG team too.
They are two big players that we expect big from this season.For Christiano,I know he is really going to make Man-united tittle contenders this season.

[hahay]

we can assume that since he is experienced, he will be able to adapt. Because he has previous playing experience with many players on the team.

Basically, it is not always easy to adapt but I believe Messi can deal with a new challenge. Not only he has experience playing with various players in his national team, but he is a smart player as well. We can guess he is smart from his playing style and his achievement so far. Another thing that makes him possibly be easier in adaptation is some PSG key players familiar enough with Messi. So, Messi knows how those players style in playing. And it may help him a bit to adapt with the players.

Basically Messi is a player who has an above average level, it makes many other players want to play with him and so at least they will adapt to Messi's playing style. So, even though at PSG Messi is a new player but I'm sure it's not a problem for him about adapting, because star players will always be respected wherever they are.

[bullrun2024bro]

Messi's presence in the PSG team will really lift and boost my their moral,and would want to make them win the champions.

You are right. Messi's move to PSG gives the team another huge boost. However, it is much more important that Kylian Mbappe will play another season at PSG. In my opinion, PSG's squad this season is just crazy. I can't think of any other club in the last ten years that has had such top-class players in their team. They are by far the biggest favorites to win the CL this season.

The same impact that Christiano Ronaldo has on Manchester United that Messi will have on PSG team too. They are two big players that we expect big from this season. For Christiano,I know he is really going to make Man-united tittle contenders this season.

I'm curious to see if Christiano Ronaldo can win a title with Manchester United this year. It probably won't be enough for the Champions League, but maybe the national championship or one of the English Cup competitions is possible. After his great career in Spain and Italy, I would love to see Ronaldo win another title at his old home, Manchester United. Knowing Ronaldo, he naturally has the incentive to win another English title. So we should get ready for an exciting season.

[BlackViruse]

we can assume that since he is experienced, he will be able to adapt. Because he has previous playing experience with many players on the team.

Basically, it is not always easy to adapt but I believe Messi can deal with a new challenge. Not only he has experience playing with various players in his national team, but he is a smart player as well. We can guess he is smart from his playing style and his achievement so far. Another thing that makes him possibly be easier in adaptation is some PSG key players familiar enough with Messi. So, Messi knows how those players style in playing. And it may help him a bit to adapt with the players.

Basically Messi is a player who has an above average level, it makes many other players want to play with him and so at least they will adapt to Messi's playing style. So, even though at PSG Messi is a new player but I'm sure it's not a problem for him about adapting, because star players will always be respected wherever they are.

The only mole in the ream is Mbappe and the faster they get rip of him the better for the whole team, dude is very selfish in his game play, he always want to get the headline to himself not minding the other players and secondly he is not a good fan of Messi. Neymar, Messi, Di Maria will do more better than having Mbappe in the team

[ILuckyGuyI]

Cristiano Ronaldo's first Champions League game at Manchester United is going to be against Young Boys in five days. It is really good to see Ronaldo being back here and I wonder how he will perform in the Champions League also. Manchester United are the highly favourite team here of course. Even if it is an away game, Manchester United should be able to win this game comfortably and have a good start. Maybe Ronaldo would score also as I guess that he will be in the starting eleven.

[CryptoBuds]

With so many stars in the team, Pocchetinno doesn't have much to do. In fact, almost all the managers wouldn't need to do much. Strategy and formations are known to all and with this team, I wonder how you can make it wrong. Of course, Pocchetinno is a very good manager and I can't see anything that can go bad (besides injuries). PSG this season is among the 3 teams that I expect to reach the semi-finals...

Pochettino has a lot to do. Lots of stars and talented players in the team. It is not to be expected that there will be a friendly relationship between all the players. The players will have conflicts, there will be quarrels, the coach will have to solve all these. Moreover, there are many new players in the team. They need to cooperate so that they can adapt quickly to the unique players of the team. If the coach does not fulfill his responsibilities properly, there will be chaos in the team.

[alegotardo]

Pochettino has a lot to do. Lots of stars and talented players in the team. It is not to be expected that there will be a friendly relationship between all the players. The players will have conflicts, there will be quarrels, the coach will have to solve all these. Moreover, there are many new players in the team. They need to cooperate so that they can adapt quickly to the unique players of the team. If the coach does not fulfill his responsibilities properly, there will be chaos in the team.

It's actually not easy to deal with a team that has so many good players.
Pochettino's first challenge will be to decide between Navas and Donnarumma, which of them will be called up to defend PSG's goal?
Donnarumma has just joined PSG after the Euro Cup and is considered one of the best goalkeepers in the world, but Navas' experience as a PSG starter who has always delivered an excellent performance makes it difficult to pull him out of the goal.

Anyway, this is just one of the "problems" that Pochettino has, it is necessary to manage this team with firm reins, a lot of responsibility and technique.