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August 31, 2021, 11:56:33 AM
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It's funny that both moneybags (Manchester City and PSG) fell into the same group. I understand that this is unrealistic, but I will hope that Leipzig and Bruges will leave Group A in the next round. In general, I must note that all groups are rather boring except for group B, almost everywhere it is clear who will take the first two places.

In terms of player quality maybe what you say is right, but remember sometimes there are unexpected things in a group. Indeed, the top clubs have been divided into each group. I think there will be a surprise team, and a big team that will struggle to qualify for the group stage may not even qualify. Mysterious match with the result. I think this will be very interesting for us later. Still about more two weeks again. I think Bayern vs Barcelona is the match we've been waiting for.

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August 31, 2021, 12:51:10 PM
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it is relatively evenly distributed and in the stronger groups it looks like rank 1 and 2 are already gone, but I am excite so see how Red Bull Leipzig will do in the group with City and PSG. If somehow Leipzig can manage to play the first two games well with decent results, I think that group could turn into the hell group you are talking about. If they only get 1 point out of the first two games it is already over I guess.

I don't know yet what to think of Leipzig this season, still too early. They lost some very good players and it is not like they have world class players sitting all over the bench. But they are definitely a team that is very hard to beat at least in home games. When they perform well it won't be easy even for teams like City and PSG.

I am not so optimistic about Leipzig's capabilities in this Champions League. In Group A there is only one intrigue, who will come out from the first place PSG, or Manchester City. I think it's not worth talking about the rest, since the probability of this will be very low. Leipzig and Bruges were simply unlucky, for sure Leipzig will reach the Europa League, and Bruges will finish their performance in European competitions after the group stage.

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August 31, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
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I see UCL group B is a semi-final that happens too soon, haha. 4 strong teams are in one group, but what makes me a little doubtful is AC Milan. Milan has just returned to the UCL after a long time, unfortunately they met strong European clubs. Successfully qualifying for the next round for me is enough for AC Milan. Of course as a fan I want them to reach the final, but with the current squad, Milan can only compete in Serie A, not in the UCL.

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August 31, 2021, 02:38:39 PM
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I wonder where is the hell group that usually happens every season, and can group B be called the hell group this season? I don't know, because I think now every group gets a competing team that has the same level in each group. I mean, this season it looks like every group has at least three favorites and one team as dark horses and I see that in every group at the moment.

it is relatively evenly distributed and in the stronger groups it looks like rank 1 and 2 are already gone, but I am excite so see how Red Bull Leipzig will do in the group with City and PSG. If somehow Leipzig can manage to play the first two games well with decent results, I think that group could turn into the hell group you are talking about. If they only get 1 point out of the first two games it is already over I guess.

I don't know yet what to think of Leipzig this season, still too early. They lost some very good players and it is not like they have world class players sitting all over the bench. But they are definitely a team that is very hard to beat at least in home games. When they perform well it won't be easy even for teams like City and PSG.
If you say group A is hell group then you can say all groups are hell group too, because it's a very even shuffle. In my view only group B is different and maybe that can still qualify as group hell. In group B all the teams are favourites although indeed, City and PSG are clearly big-name teams but the four teams in group B are clearly at the same level at the moment as are the usual favourites. Well, that's not something important either and I'm just curious because usually they discuss about the final too soon or about the hell group, with this shuffling I think all the groups seem to be very evenly distributed in this group stage.

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August 31, 2021, 03:00:55 PM
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Group A is really awesome. I can't wait to see Manchester City vs PSG and PSG vs Manchester City games.  Cheesy  These are the biggest favourites for the Champions League title this season. PSG have Lionel Messi from now on. And Manchester City are really close to signing Cristiano Ronaldo. It will be great to see these two legends playing against each other again.

It won't happen because Ronaldo choose Manchester United, not Manchester City. I also expect group games to be exactly like "group games" because there are different tactics and strategy. Playing in semi final vs. playing in group games are very different. I think both teams will advance to next round but who will be the first and which teams will draw each other, it's all mind games and we will see how it goes after first five games. Sometimes you finish first in your group and you draw with stronger team in other group, these things can happen every year. This is still the best group and I'm very excited to watch City vs. PSG again at least two more times.

Yeah, I've heard about Ronaldo's choice. But the deal finished really fast for Manchester United. They just made an offer to Juventus and it was accepted right away. These things all happened in only 24 hours. I would really like to see a final game between Manchester Utd and PSG now. I'm OK for even seeing them clash before the final. I would really like to see Messi and Ronaldo playing against each other by both of them being at different clubs this time.

Well I think many are looking for the greatest attention in group A and F, because both Messi and Ronaldo are still in the news, in fact, Real Madrid and Barcelona have already dropped interest a bit, for now everything is still concentrating a lot more in PSG, because after the offer from Real Madrid, apparently the president of PSG does not want to release him, will they be thinking of leaving him at PSG? I think it wouldn't be a bad thing to have the fiercest attack trident out there so far.

I would like PSG and Man United to meet in the CL, maybe a Final of that style would be from another world!

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August 31, 2021, 04:43:31 PM
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I would like PSG and Man United to meet in the CL, maybe a Final of that style would be from another world!

Yeah, this would be a beautiful game to watch from start to finish and the whole world (or everyone who likes football) would be watching. Is it possible to happen? What would be your bet and crowd?

However, we already have good competitions to entertain us at the moment, as Real Madrid faces Inter Milan again, Bayern Munich faces Barcelona, Atlético de Madrid faces Liverpool, and Chelsea measures forces with Juventus.

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August 31, 2021, 06:35:44 PM
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I would like PSG and Man United to meet in the CL, maybe a Final of that style would be from another world!
Yeah, this would be a beautiful game to watch from start to finish and the whole world (or everyone who likes football) would be watching. Is it possible to happen? What would be your bet and crowd?

Messi made his debut for PSG against Reims. But I did not like Messi's performance in this match. The other players didn't help Messi too much. Messi was on the field for 26 minutes but could not make a single shot. It will take a lot of time for Messi to adapt to this team. And if the other players on the team can't adapt to Messi, then I don't expect a good performance from the PSG team in the Champions League.

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August 31, 2021, 08:23:32 PM
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Messi made his debut for PSG against Reims. But I did not like Messi's performance in this match. The other players didn't help Messi too much. Messi was on the field for 26 minutes but could not make a single shot. It will take a lot of time for Messi to adapt to this team. And if the other players on the team can't adapt to Messi, then I don't expect a good performance from the PSG team in the Champions League.

Let's not forget that Messi has spent his entire career at Barcelona, and the Barcelona team was built around Messi to benefit from his full potential. It took years of work. Now he won't expect the same. There are other mentalities and other styles. It will require much more work to have this interconnection between the entire team.
Messi is a great player, but this is still a great challenge. And now we're going to see if he's really capable of making excellent games, apart from the machine set up at Barcelona.

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August 31, 2021, 09:05:55 PM
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I think it is quite funny that Inter Milan, Real Madrid and Shakhtar Donetsk are on the same group two years in a row, what are the chances of that actually happening? This is going to make the group harder for everyone as they know each other very well from the past edition, but my favorite groups are by far group A and B, especially group A as both Manchester City and PSG are without a doubt two of the favorites to win the tournament.
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August 31, 2021, 09:07:12 PM
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Messi made his debut for PSG against Reims. But I did not like Messi's performance in this match. The other players didn't help Messi too much. Messi was on the field for 26 minutes but could not make a single shot. It will take a lot of time for Messi to adapt to this team. And if the other players on the team can't adapt to Messi, then I don't expect a good performance from the PSG team in the Champions League.

Let's not forget that Messi has spent his entire career at Barcelona, and the Barcelona team was built around Messi to benefit from his full potential. It took years of work. Now he won't expect the same. There are other mentalities and other styles. It will require much more work to have this interconnection between the entire team.
Messi is a great player, but this is still a great challenge. And now we're going to see if he's really capable of making excellent games, apart from the machine set up at Barcelona.

Barcelona will undoubtedly struggle this season in the champions league, but I don't think it will be tough enough for them to exit the champions league early, like in the group stages.

PSG would make a really great team in UCL, I'd say they're more stronger now, collectively... I'd even tip them to win the CL this season  Grin

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September 01, 2021, 05:07:40 AM
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Messi made his debut for PSG against Reims. But I did not like Messi's performance in this match. The other players didn't help Messi too much. Messi was on the field for 26 minutes but could not make a single shot. It will take a lot of time for Messi to adapt to this team. And if the other players on the team can't adapt to Messi, then I don't expect a good performance from the PSG team in the Champions League.
Let's not forget that Messi has spent his entire career at Barcelona, and the Barcelona team was built around Messi to benefit from his full potential. It took years of work. Now he won't expect the same. There are other mentalities and other styles. It will require much more work to have this interconnection between the entire team.
Messi is a great player, but this is still a great challenge. And now we're going to see if he's really capable of making excellent games, apart from the machine set up at Barcelona.

I think the pairing of Neymar and Messi will be very effective. Unless Neymar is injured too much. However, Messi needs time to adapt to Mbappe, if Mbappe is at PSG. All the players in PSG's squad are talented, so if there is a good understanding between the players, they can expect a win against any team. Not everyone will just cooperate with Messi. All the players in the forward have to help each other.

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September 01, 2021, 05:16:30 AM
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Messi made his debut for PSG against Reims. But I did not like Messi's performance in this match. The other players didn't help Messi too much. Messi was on the field for 26 minutes but could not make a single shot. It will take a lot of time for Messi to adapt to this team. And if the other players on the team can't adapt to Messi, then I don't expect a good performance from the PSG team in the Champions League.
Let's not forget that Messi has spent his entire career at Barcelona, and the Barcelona team was built around Messi to benefit from his full potential. It took years of work. Now he won't expect the same. There are other mentalities and other styles. It will require much more work to have this interconnection between the entire team.
Messi is a great player, but this is still a great challenge. And now we're going to see if he's really capable of making excellent games, apart from the machine set up at Barcelona.

I think the pairing of Neymar and Messi will be very effective. Unless Neymar is injured too much. However, Messi needs time to adapt to Mbappe, if Mbappe is at PSG. All the players in PSG's squad are talented, so if there is a good understanding between the players, they can expect a win against any team. Not everyone will just cooperate with Messi. All the players in the forward have to help each other.

If there is one thing that Messi has no problem with, that is definitely to adapt to his players and understand quickly how to get the best out of them. Mbappe can be lucky to have Messi on his team because that means more goals for Mbappe as well. The three are the perfect combination comprising speed, technique, precision and creativity. You can't have more than that. As it looks now Mbappe stays and that is the right decision in my opinion.

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September 01, 2021, 06:48:17 AM
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I think the pairing of Neymar and Messi will be very effective.

I'm not so sure about that. Neymar and Messi have played together at Barcelona, and it wasn't a fantastic pair.


If there is one thing that Messi has no problem with, that is definitely to adapt to his players and understand quickly how to get the best out of them.

I do not think so. But that's what we're going to see now. It's the first time that Messi is at a club other than Barcelona.
For the quality of player that he is, he will adapt. But it's now that we'll see if he's capable of it or not.

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September 01, 2021, 07:22:02 AM
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If there is one thing that Messi has no problem with, that is definitely to adapt to his players and understand quickly how to get the best out of them.

I do not think so. But that's what we're going to see now. It's the first time that Messi is at a club other than Barcelona.
For the quality of player that he is, he will adapt. But it's now that we'll see if he's capable of it or not.


I also think that it is definitely possible that messi will have some problems to adapt as he always seemed to be a guy that really enjoyed to be around people that he knows. He never seemed to have wanted to go to another league to learn a new language, a new culture and stuff like that. Now he basically had to go to Paris in order to continue to play football on a high Level. As far as i know he does not speak french nor english so he definitely will have some problems to communicate at the beginning.
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September 01, 2021, 01:36:27 PM
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If there is one thing that Messi has no problem with, that is definitely to adapt to his players and understand quickly how to get the best out of them. Mbappe can be lucky to have Messi on his team because that means more goals for Mbappe as well. The three are the perfect combination comprising speed, technique, precision and creativity. You can't have more than that. As it looks now Mbappe stays and that is the right decision in my opinion.

Messi likes to assist, Mbappe is certainly lucky to have the opportunity to play with a player like Messi. Messi is experienced. Mbappe can learn a lot from Messi. And Mbappe will be able to make himself more experienced. Mbappe may be a key player for Real Madrid, but it will take time to adjust to La Liga's strategy.

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September 01, 2021, 02:26:31 PM
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If there is one thing that Messi has no problem with, that is definitely to adapt to his players and understand quickly how to get the best out of them.
I do not think so. But that's what we're going to see now. It's the first time that Messi is at a club other than Barcelona.
For the quality of player that he is, he will adapt. But it's now that we'll see if he's capable of it or not.
I also think that it is definitely possible that messi will have some problems to adapt as he always seemed to be a guy that really enjoyed to be around people that he knows. He never seemed to have wanted to go to another league to learn a new language, a new culture and stuff like that. Now he basically had to go to Paris in order to continue to play football on a high Level. As far as i know he does not speak french nor english so he definitely will have some problems to communicate at the beginning.

Messi knows Spanish, I think he doesn't know Paris or English. So he may have some problems talking to other players. Messi is a talented player, other players on the team should help him. And the coach should give Messi and Neymar a chance to play together. Together they have done very well in Barcelona. If they are not on the field together, it will be more difficult for Messi to adjust to the rest of the team.

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September 01, 2021, 02:47:11 PM
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It was the draw for the group stage of the Champions League.



I think group A and group E are two groups that will probably be very competitive.

What do you think?

It's funny that both moneybags (Manchester City and PSG) fell into the same group. I understand that this is unrealistic, but I will hope that Leipzig and Bruges will leave Group A in the next round. In general, I must note that all groups are rather boring except for group B, almost everywhere it is clear who will take the first two places.

I had the same thought, but I think Leipzig will not play a role in the CL this year. Over the past 14 month they have lost a bunch of key players. First Timo Werner went to Chelsea, then their successful coach Nagelsmann and finally "chief of defensive" Ubamecano and central playmaker Sabitzer (all three went to Bayern). I think Leipzig will need one or two years to build a new good team that can surprise in the CL again.

The most exciting and balanced group in my opinion is group B with Atletico, Liverpool, Milan and Porto.
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September 01, 2021, 02:48:25 PM
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Messi knows Spanish, I think he doesn't know Paris or English. So he may have some problems talking to other players. Messi is a talented player, other players on the team should help him. And the coach should give Messi and Neymar a chance to play together. Together they have done very well in Barcelona. If they are not on the field together, it will be more difficult for Messi to adjust to the rest of the team.
For players like Messi, the language barrier is definitely not a Barrier. Even if he does not know English, which I doubt ... then his colossal playing experience will help him in following the coaching instructions. But even this is not the main thing, since he already felt the atmosphere of the locker room, and the warm welcome that the whole Paris organized for him, (not to mention the fact that some of the PSG players speak Spanish).

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September 01, 2021, 03:06:25 PM
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Messi likes to assist, Mbappe is certainly lucky to have the opportunity to play with a player like Messi. Messi is experienced. Mbappe can learn a lot from Messi. And Mbappe will be able to make himself more experienced. Mbappe may be a key player for Real Madrid, but it will take time to adjust to La Liga's strategy.

Absolutely I agree. If Messi manages to get used to this league, he can do great things. Despite his advanced age, he is still a great player, and with his experience, he will be very useful for his team.
He can show his potential in a few games, there's no reason he shouldn't be the assist king of the league Smiley

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September 02, 2021, 09:57:22 AM
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Messi likes to assist, Mbappe is certainly lucky to have the opportunity to play with a player like Messi. Messi is experienced. Mbappe can learn a lot from Messi. And Mbappe will be able to make himself more experienced. Mbappe may be a key player for Real Madrid, but it will take time to adjust to La Liga's strategy.

Absolutely I agree. If Messi manages to get used to this league, he can do great things. Despite his advanced age, he is still a great player, and with his experience, he will be very useful for his team.
He can show his potential in a few games, there's no reason he shouldn't be the assist king of the league Smiley

Ramos and Messi are now the most experienced players in the PSG team. If the two of them can adapt to the coach's strategy, then PSG will get their performance very well. They have both played in La Liga so far. La Liga's strategy is different from PSG's strategy. So they need time to adapt to the PSG team.

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