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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129356 times)
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December 10, 2021, 07:07:47 PM
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I was amazed at Villarreal's gameplay and fascinated at the same time. I never thought they would win. They were 3-0 up in the 71st minute of match time. I think they played well, but their luck helped a lot to win this match. They have made a total of 9 shots, of which they have managed to score 3 goals. Atlanta, on the other hand, dominated the entire match, taking a total of 19 shots. Yet they did not win.
Atlanta is a cool team but unfortunately their pressure system gives them no mercy if someone makes an individual mistake the whole team suffers. Such a system of pressing makes the game very entertaining and if the team were stronger individually, the results would be better...

Although I expected Atlanta to win this match. But at the beginning of the match they conceded the goal and fell behind. Atalanta attacked a lot, but did not succeed. Since Atlanta has played attacking, Villarreal's players have a good chance to score from a counter attack. However, I do not expect to see the Atlanta team in a stronger form next season.

Too sloppy from Atalanta, they allowed Villarreal scored first.
This was the biggest mistake,too bad too many people expecting the host to win the game.
It's up to themselves to decide how good they'll play in the Europa league.

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December 10, 2021, 07:51:42 PM
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Barcelona is  no longer same with past time, this is likely not a big club again even this club still has a big community or fans. Well, this will really make Xavi difficult to bring up again Barcelona to get or be the previous powerful club. It may be, but still need more times, not this season.
Xavi was well aware he was taking up a very difficult and complicated job, and he is also an inexperienced manager, so I didn't really expect too much from him, I believe Barcelona had no other choice but to sign Xavi cause of their present financial condition, it's really a difficult period for the Spanish giants and the board has a lot of work on their hands, their league position is bad enough, and now they have to play Europa league football for the remainder of the season.

Having said that, I just hope this isn't the end of an era, so many clubs have fallen from their lofty heights and it took them so many years to start fighting again, if that's the case with Barcelona, then their fans have to start getting ready for it, cause it's really going to be tough times.

Contrary to the majority of Barcelona fans, I do not believe that Xavi will be able to revive Barcelona. He has no experience of building a team from scratch. Barcelona needs to build a new team. Guardiola's situation was much easier and in those days many clubs were in decline. Now there are many strong clubs, and Barcelona, ​​in addition to financial problems, has staffing problems. There are no players around whom to build a team. So Barcelona has a long recovery ahead of it, possibly 3-5 years.
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December 10, 2021, 08:06:15 PM
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There are only 3 team that are able to lead the group standings with 100% wins each and one of them is Liverpool. I am very happy with Liverpool's achievements during the group stage because they had a stable performance even when they were in a difficult group. I want them to be able to maintain this form until the end of the tournament, we have a big chance to do that this season even though Bayern Munchen, Manchester City and several other teams are also the best challengers.

Contrary to the majority of Barcelona fans, I do not believe that Xavi will be able to revive Barcelona. He has no experience of building a team from scratch. Barcelona needs to build a new team. Guardiola's situation was much easier and in those days many clubs were in decline. Now there are many strong clubs, and Barcelona, ​​in addition to financial problems, has staffing problems. There are no players around whom to build a team. So Barcelona has a long recovery ahead of it, possibly 3-5 years.
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December 10, 2021, 08:45:59 PM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.

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December 10, 2021, 08:57:24 PM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.
PSG was strong on paper in the beginning of the season especially after signing Messi and Ramos but honestly right now, I doubt they could make it to the finals. Maybe in the upcoming weeks their gameplay might improve and prove me wrong but until then I think two teams between Bayern, City, Liverpool and Chelsea will play finals.

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December 10, 2021, 08:58:11 PM
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Barcelona is  no longer same with past time, this is likely not a big club again even this club still has a big community or fans. Well, this will really make Xavi difficult to bring up again Barcelona to get or be the previous powerful club. It may be, but still need more times, not this season.
Xavi was well aware he was taking up a very difficult and complicated job, and he is also an inexperienced manager, so I didn't really expect too much from him, I believe Barcelona had no other choice but to sign Xavi cause of their present financial condition, it's really a difficult period for the Spanish giants and the board has a lot of work on their hands, their league position is bad enough, and now they have to play Europa league football for the remainder of the season.

Having said that, I just hope this isn't the end of an era, so many clubs have fallen from their lofty heights and it took them so many years to start fighting again, if that's the case with Barcelona, then their fans have to start getting ready for it, cause it's really going to be tough times.

Contrary to the majority of Barcelona fans, I do not believe that Xavi will be able to revive Barcelona. He has no experience of building a team from scratch. Barcelona needs to build a new team. Guardiola's situation was much easier and in those days many clubs were in decline. Now there are many strong clubs, and Barcelona, ​​in addition to financial problems, has staffing problems. There are no players around whom to build a team. So Barcelona has a long recovery ahead of it, possibly 3-5 years.

Barcelona without Suarez and Messi is really bad, for years they made a team around Messi and without him they are useless . Against Bayern they couldnt create one chance Bayern even putted in later some players from youth academy just to have fun with them

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December 10, 2021, 09:03:41 PM
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PSG was strong on paper in the beginning of the season especially after signing Messi and Ramos but honestly right now, I doubt they could make it to the finals. Maybe in the upcoming weeks their gameplay might improve and prove me wrong but until then I think two teams between Bayern, City, Liverpool and Chelsea will play finals.
I second that, I actually never believed in PSG's ability to win the CL even before the start of the tournament, I knew it would be very difficult for Pochettino to handle the collection of stars at his disposal and it would also be improbable for them to play as a team, mind you that winning the CL has a lot to do with team work and togetherness, PSG have individual talents, but they are yet to blend as a team. Manchester City remain my favorite to win the title this season, after making it to the final last season, I'm expecting them to go a step further and bring the title to the Etihad, they will also be extra motivated cause it's the title they are yet to win, and they are so craving to do so.
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December 10, 2021, 10:09:03 PM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.
PSG was strong on paper in the beginning of the season especially after signing Messi and Ramos but honestly right now, I doubt they could make it to the finals. Maybe in the upcoming weeks their gameplay might improve and prove me wrong but until then I think two teams between Bayern, City, Liverpool and Chelsea will play finals.

If they had told me at the beginning of the year, I would have said that this is impossible because Ramos, neymar, messi and Mbabbe will play the same team. Yes, it has become a very exciting team PSG. But unfortunately the team does not give the desired performance. There are much stronger opponents in the champions league. Liverpool, Chelsea teams are really fixers, tactically. PSG can increase the level a little more, then we may have a chance to see PSG in the final.

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December 10, 2021, 10:13:18 PM
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PSG was strong on paper in the beginning of the season especially after signing Messi and Ramos but honestly right now, I doubt they could make it to the finals. Maybe in the upcoming weeks their gameplay might improve and prove me wrong but until then I think two teams between Bayern, City, Liverpool and Chelsea will play finals.
Although I don't really like your way of paraphrasing clippings from articles ... nevertheless, I probably disagree with you or with si.com. It's all about priorities, and the Champions League is not among Messi's priorities, but perhaps the club's management and such young players as Mbappe want this, but definitely not the one who wants to take the first line in the history of world football.

Who is Messi's closest competitor for this title? Ronaldo? Now compare his trophies with the trophies of everyone's favorite Portuguese and you will understand what I mean. If I knew where I can now bet on the fact that Messi will play in the Premier League in two years, I would have done it without hesitation, since having won the Premier League championship, Messi would have been able to catch up with Ronaldo in terms of the number of cups he owns.

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December 10, 2021, 10:19:51 PM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.
Despite indeed psg has a lot of stars as well as manchester city favorited among others to win the prestigious champions league title this season, bayern munich for me are the one who had everything to get this trophy back in their cabinet. they are ready mentally and statistically , also dont you forget chelsea being underestimated last season but win it though.

this is football and this is a real unpredictable league, we could see any team lift up the trophy, even lille or villareal!

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December 10, 2021, 10:22:52 PM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.
This season's Champions league has too many big candidates or contenders. Many people has better chances even more than PSG. For instance if there is a Champions league match between PSG and Bayern, I'll obviously tip Bayern to win.
This year might still not be PSG's year.
As talking about Mbappe's exit next season. It will be a very good thing for the club. They need one of the three big fishes to exit in order to stable.

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December 11, 2021, 01:38:22 AM
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Xavi was well aware he was taking up a very difficult and complicated job, and he is also an inexperienced manager, so I didn't really expect too much from him, I believe Barcelona had no other choice but to sign Xavi cause of their present financial condition, it's really a difficult period for the Spanish giants and the board has a lot of work on their hands, their league position is bad enough, and now they have to play Europa league football for the remainder of the season.

Having said that, I just hope this isn't the end of an era, so many clubs have fallen from their lofty heights and it took them so many years to start fighting again, if that's the case with Barcelona, then their fans have to start getting ready for it, cause it's really going to be tough times.
I would not say that Xavi is an inexperienced manager, he is inexperienced in this level of football for sure, he was managing a much worse team but he turned a team that wasn't dominating and was just good into a team that did not even lose all that much. These things take time and I am 100% sure that he will be able to create a roster that plays the perfect tiki-taka system and how they could end up with a much better result next season.

I doubt that they would sack Xavi even if he ends with a bad result this year, he was given a tough task this year, but next season after the off-season is over and he gets some players that would be better suited for his style (doesn't even have to be superstars, just fitting for his system) then I am sure he will be doing better, and if he doesn't only then he would face the challenge of getting sacked.

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December 11, 2021, 02:16:12 AM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.
Despite indeed psg has a lot of stars as well as manchester city favorited among others to win the prestigious champions league title this season, bayern munich for me are the one who had everything to get this trophy back in their cabinet. they are ready mentally and statistically , also dont you forget chelsea being underestimated last season but win it though.

this is football and this is a real unpredictable league, we could see any team lift up the trophy, even lille or villareal!

It's still too early to predict which team will win the Champions League trophy this season. Because there are still many big teams that deserve
to be champions, maybe in my opinion there are 4 teams that are most likely to win the Champions League. Bayern, Man City, Liverpool and
Real Madrid are the 4 teams with the greatest chances of winning the Champions League this season. Bayern probably has the least amount of
weakness compared to the other 3 teams that I mentioned. So Bayern is for me the first choice who will win the Champions League trophy this
season. Then PSG and Chelsea can be unexpected dark horse teams, andn there is Ajax that can't be underestimated either, achieved a perfect
victory and became the group champion. It is very interesting to wait for the draw for the next round of the Champions League.

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December 11, 2021, 02:22:46 AM
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Contrary to the majority of Barcelona fans, I do not believe that Xavi will be able to revive Barcelona. He has no experience of building a team from scratch. Barcelona needs to build a new team. Guardiola's situation was much easier and in those days many clubs were in decline. Now there are many strong clubs, and Barcelona, ​​in addition to financial problems, has staffing problems. There are no players around whom to build a team. So Barcelona has a long recovery ahead of it, possibly 3-5 years.
You can't blame Xavi in any of this happening in Barcelona, prior to him becoming the coach of Barca we all knows that Barca are going out of the champions League group stage,you can not say he can't create a team when you have not giving him a try,yea I agree with you that pep case is different but we should give Hernandez time,he won trophies at a new team at Qatar as a player and as a coach.the January market is around the corner let's see how they support him because I know he might have discuss about such things before taking the job.

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December 11, 2021, 02:27:57 AM
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When will be the draws for the round of sixteen be done ?
Barcelona's movement to the Europa wasn't what most expected anyways,but what can they do ?
The Barcelona defense needs improvement and upgrade.

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December 11, 2021, 02:32:08 AM
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I'm getting excited already now about the next stages. The biggest candidates for the title are obvious already now for me. And I would really like to see PSG making it to the title this time. They have their biggest chance now as they have Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time. In the next season, it seems like that at least Mbappe will leave the team. And this would be really bad for PSG.
PSG is one of the European teams that has the best squad and best striker in the world, but  I don't see them growing since the arrival of messi, without rule out mbappe and neymar.
and I don't think PSG are the main candidates to win the Champions League this season, unless Messi can adapt quickly and become a goal machine like when he played at Barcelona, if he can, we can talk about the title. 
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December 11, 2021, 08:16:20 AM
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When will be the draws for the round of sixteen be done ?
Barcelona's movement to the Europa wasn't what most expected anyways,but what can they do ?
The Barcelona defense needs improvement and upgrade.

The draw will take place on Monday, December 13th.

"The draw takes place at UEFA headquarters in Nyon, Switzerland, on Monday 13 December. The ceremony begins at 12:00 CET, which is 11am in the UK and Portugal."
Source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/026f-13ac24551ac0-33ad3b5a37c0-1000--champions-league-round-of-16-draw-all-you-need-to-know/

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December 11, 2021, 08:45:41 AM
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When will be the draws for the round of sixteen be done ?
Barcelona's movement to the Europa wasn't what most expected anyways,but what can they do ?
The Barcelona defense needs improvement and upgrade.

Only a few more days the draw for the last 16 will take place, and it looks like we will find some big clubs who will beat each other in the last 16 later, barcelona performance this season has been affected quite a lot due to the financial problems they are currently experiencing, this season barcelona will play in the european league after the last time it happened in 2003/04, do you think this is the beginning of the downfall of barcelona?




The draw will take place on Monday, December 13th.

"The draw takes place at UEFA headquarters in Nyon, Switzerland, on Monday 13 December. The ceremony begins at 12:00 CET, which is 11am in the UK and Portugal."
Source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/026f-13ac24551ac0-33ad3b5a37c0-1000--champions-league-round-of-16-draw-all-you-need-to-know/

It's really strange to see this season the last 16 without Barcelona, ​​because we know that Barcelona was previously a fairly consistent club in the champions league, my prediction is that maybe there will be some big games that occur in the draw later,  I want to see a meeting between Messi (PSG) and Ronaldo (manchester) in the last 16 later.

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December 11, 2021, 08:54:59 AM
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Contrary to the majority of Barcelona fans, I do not believe that Xavi will be able to revive Barcelona. He has no experience of building a team from scratch. Barcelona needs to build a new team. Guardiola's situation was much easier and in those days many clubs were in decline. Now there are many strong clubs, and Barcelona, ​​in addition to financial problems, has staffing problems. There are no players around whom to build a team. So Barcelona has a long recovery ahead of it, possibly 3-5 years.
You can't blame Xavi in any of this happening in Barcelona, prior to him becoming the coach of Barca we all knows that Barca are going out of the champions League group stage,you can not say he can't create a team when you have not giving him a try,yea I agree with you that pep case is different but we should give Hernandez time,he won trophies at a new team at Qatar as a player and as a coach.the January market is around the corner let's see how they support him because I know he might have discuss about such things before taking the job.
I think there has been some news out there before with a statement about some of them having an expectation on Xavi to get back to his best for Barcelona quickly and not only that, after Barcelona lost by Betis during press conference Xavi said he had a goal of winning against Bayern Munich and it was a form of protection against defeat against Betis in Laliga. There is nothing wrong with that statement, but at least it would be better to express the team's condition more openly, because the results that have been obtained so far are not in line with what was previously expected. However, Xavi still doesn't have enough flying hours in terms of coaching and to build a big team with big problems facing him is certainly not easy and Xavi still needs a lot of time and can't be solved quickly. His success with the Qatar team cannot be used as a reference that Xavi is a great coach because after all, their caste, gameplay, culture etc. are certainly different and their case really cannot be considered the same challenge.

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December 11, 2021, 11:59:25 AM
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It's really strange to see this season the last 16 without Barcelona, ​​because we know that Barcelona was previously a fairly consistent club in the champions league, my prediction is that maybe there will be some big games that occur in the draw later,  I want to see a meeting between Messi (PSG) and Ronaldo (manchester) in the last 16 later.

This is the game most awaited by fans, that it happens. But it may never come to pass.
Despite PSG and Man United, they will be two great teams, this season is not going as well as expected. Both teams finished in second place and both had the same points, not being able to show a big difference in stage to the other clubs in the group.

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