⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[AndySt]

Many people still believe with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are best player in the world right now and they not memorize how old age for both player, looking on statistic between Messi and Ronaldo I think not really potential as best player for this season. But we need waiting with Manchester United and PSG how far they can talk in champion league on this season. Can Ronaldo make United pass to final and Messi can give champion league first trophy for PSG? still have one week later for Manchester United against Villareal and PSG will get difficult faced with Real Madrid on champion league knock out.

As much as Ronaldo and Messi fans would argue that the pair are still on top of their game, it's not hard to see that they have passed their peaks and their performances from the last 2-3 seasons have been diminishing. Between Man Utd and PSG, only PSG has the best chance to make it to the finals - judging from Man Utd recent PL results, it's a good thing they have a pretty easy team compared to PSG that are up against Madrid.

In theory, if we say that Ronaldo and Messi are the best players in the world, it is possible by the totality of their merits for their careers and the level of play that they have shown in this career. I also don't quite agree when they make equality in the level of the player himself and the success of the team in which he plays. It's not the same thing. Because if, for example, Chelsea is the current winner of the Champions League, then this does not mean that its players individually are head and shoulders above players from other clubs. Yes, you could see this for yourself in the last draw, at least by the example of the final with Manchester City, because Manchester City was clearly no worse than Chelsea in the selection of players and was the favorite in their full-time match.

[DU18]

I dont think Man Utd even with Ronaldo they wont even reach the quarter finals with how bad they are playing ,they dont stand a chance against any team currently. Messi’s PSG is a superstar team but they dont play like a team and thats why i dont see them winning the champions league. Main favorites are Bayern Munich and Man City and as a surprise team i would choose Ajax.

Not consistent performance on Primer League maybe become some decision not optimist with Manchester United will success lead Villareal on qurater final of champion league, Red Devils still not get good touch under new manager and always get disappointed result few match before on primer league and they have out early on FA Cup from championship team. I think Manchester United as not favorite team will lead to quarter final of champion league in this season.

[joker_josue]

Ronaldo may not be the best player anymore, but he is still very valuable. Mbappe is basically much better, faster, and more technical. But Ronaldo has much more experience and has his status with him. At the decisive moments he really put a lot of balls in it. Mbappe has yet to show it all. he has not yet succeeded in that at PSG in the CL.

Ronaldo and Mbappe, I don't think they are comparable players.
First, it would be strange if Mbappe didn't have more speed than Ronaldo at the moment, he is younger than Ronaldo, so that aspect is normal.
Then, Mbappe is also a player who seeks more physical contact. Ronaldo, on the other hand, won't be that much anymore, despite being good at one-on-one.

[watergold]

Ronaldo may not be the best player anymore, but he is still very valuable. Mbappe is basically much better, faster, and more technical. But Ronaldo has much more experience and has his status with him. At the decisive moments he really put a lot of balls in it. Mbappe has yet to show it all. he has not yet succeeded in that at PSG in the CL.

Ronaldo is still reliable, but he can't work alone. He needs the full support of other players. The problem is at Manchester United he doesn't get that, unlike when he was at Real Madrid, he gets the ball supply which is his forte. While at Manchester United we can see for ourselves, starting from defenders who often blunder, selfish strikers, everything is complete.

[AakZaki]

~snip~

Therefore, I find it shameful what some are trying to do, which is to blame Ronaldo. That's a little bit what they did at Juventus, but today we saw that the problem was bigger.

It's funny to blame Ronaldo. If he was right to move to Man City I think he would have got more ball. Because I see Man city better at playing the ball. He will have special service from the other players. If at Man United at the moment Ronaldo can't be a hero with just a few good players. Man United are in a bad position, high expectations are given to Ronaldo but it seems that his friend is not able to provide help with his best performances.

[kro55]

Many people still believe with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are best player in the world right now and they not memorize how old age for both player, looking on statistic between Messi and Ronaldo I think not really potential as best player for this season. But we need waiting with Manchester United and PSG how far they can talk in champion league on this season. Can Ronaldo make United pass to final and Messi can give champion league first trophy for PSG? still have one week later for Manchester United against Villareal and PSG will get difficult faced with Real Madrid on champion league knock out.

As much as Ronaldo and Messi fans would argue that the pair are still on top of their game, it's not hard to see that they have passed their peaks and their performances from the last 2-3 seasons have been diminishing. Between Man Utd and PSG, only PSG has the best chance to make it to the finals - judging from Man Utd recent PL results, it's a good thing they have a pretty easy team compared to PSG that are up against Madrid.

In theory, if we say that Ronaldo and Messi are the best players in the world, it is possible by the totality of their merits for their careers and the level of play that they have shown in this career. I also don't quite agree when they make equality in the level of the player himself and the success of the team in which he plays. It's not the same thing. Because if, for example, Chelsea is the current winner of the Champions League, then this does not mean that its players individually are head and shoulders above players from other clubs. Yes, you could see this for yourself in the last draw, at least by the example of the final with Manchester City, because Manchester City was clearly no worse than Chelsea in the selection of players and was the favorite in their full-time match.

It is obviously not about having the best players in your team or having the best squad ever, The one thing that ends up helping the team in the match is teamwork and without teamwork even the best players want to be able to do anything.
It doesn't matter if you even have Cristiano Ronaldo And Lionel Messi in the same team, they both need their team to help them. After all, teamwork makes the dream work.

[laurenB7742]

I dont think Man Utd even with Ronaldo they wont even reach the quarter finals with how bad they are playing ,they dont stand a chance against any team currently. Messi’s PSG is a superstar team but they dont play like a team and thats why i dont see them winning the champions league. Main favorites are Bayern Munich and Man City and as a surprise team i would choose Ajax.

Not consistent performance on Primer League maybe become some decision not optimist with Manchester United will success lead Villareal on qurater final of champion league, Red Devils still not get good touch under new manager and always get disappointed result few match before on primer league and they have out early on FA Cup from championship team. I think Manchester United as not favorite team will lead to quarter final of champion league in this season.

I don't understand if anything goes wrong in a team the problem is the coach, I know that people like to assume things a lot but I think the situation of Manchester United is like these because they have some problems in their midfield.

I am not saying that they don't have good players think of it filled but the problem is that players don't have any chemistry between them and that is why they are not being able to make the correct plays or any plays in fact.

[CryptoBuds]

~snip~

Therefore, I find it shameful what some are trying to do, which is to blame Ronaldo. That's a little bit what they did at Juventus, but today we saw that the problem was bigger.

It's funny to blame Ronaldo. If he was right to move to Man City I think he would have got more ball. Because I see Man city better at playing the ball. He will have special service from the other players. If at Man United at the moment Ronaldo can't be a hero with just a few good players. Man United are in a bad position, high expectations are given to Ronaldo but it seems that his friend is not able to provide help with his best performances.

^ Listen I have the answer, why Manchester United these blaming Ronaldo.

Use because they don't have anyone else to blame and they can't even seem to understand what the hell is going on.

So, when they don't have any problems but still can't seem to get the results they are just playing the blame game. The problem in my opinion is their midfield which can't seem to play like a team and make any plays at all.

[Fesatmas]

~snip~

Therefore, I find it shameful what some are trying to do, which is to blame Ronaldo. That's a little bit what they did at Juventus, but today we saw that the problem was bigger.

It's funny to blame Ronaldo. If he was right to move to Man City I think he would have got more ball. Because I see Man city better at playing the ball. He will have special service from the other players. If at Man United at the moment Ronaldo can't be a hero with just a few good players. Man United are in a bad position, high expectations are given to Ronaldo but it seems that his friend is not able to provide help with his best performances.

Blaming Cristiano Ronaldo is not wise, because this game is played by 11 people who are on the field. No matter how great a player is, if his teammates can't provide good support, then he won't be able to do anything.
See when he played at Real Madrid, the team cohesiveness they showed brought the Champions League title 3 times in a row and Ronaldo became one of the actors of Rela Madrid's success.

[Minor Miner]

Ronaldo may not be the best player anymore, but he is still very valuable. Mbappe is basically much better, faster, and more technical. But Ronaldo has much more experience and has his status with him. At the decisive moments he really put a lot of balls in it. Mbappe has yet to show it all. he has not yet succeeded in that at PSG in the CL.

Ronaldo and Mbappe, I don't think they are comparable players.
First, it would be strange if Mbappe didn't have more speed than Ronaldo at the moment, he is younger than Ronaldo, so that aspect is normal.
Then, Mbappe is also a player who seeks more physical contact. Ronaldo, on the other hand, won't be that much anymore, despite being good at one-on-one.

Comparing Ronaldo and Kylian Mbappé, It's basically like comparing Ronaldo with Messi just with the stats because they are both very different players with very different play styles.
Here I am not comparing or saying that Messi is like Kylian Mbappé or anything obviously. What I am trying to say is that these types of comparison doesn't make any sense and especially when Ronaldo is far older than Kylian Mbappé.

[DU18]

~snip~

Therefore, I find it shameful what some are trying to do, which is to blame Ronaldo. That's a little bit what they did at Juventus, but today we saw that the problem was bigger.

It's funny to blame Ronaldo. If he was right to move to Man City I think he would have got more ball. Because I see Man city better at playing the ball. He will have special service from the other players. If at Man United at the moment Ronaldo can't be a hero with just a few good players. Man United are in a bad position, high expectations are given to Ronaldo but it seems that his friend is not able to provide help with his best performances.

Blaming Cristiano Ronaldo is not wise, because this game is played by 11 people who are on the field. No matter how great a player is, if his teammates can't provide good support, then he won't be able to do anything.
See when he played at Real Madrid, the team cohesiveness they showed brought the Champions League title 3 times in a row and Ronaldo became one of the actors of Rela Madrid's success.

I know on the field played by 11 player but with Manchester United right now have different games style and looks focus when attacking counter for Ronaldo as scoring goal, maybe Manchester United need to change game play who ever have bigger chance to score can make goal without have to focus as cristiano ronaldo always for scoring goal. Maybe Manchester United need try playing without have Ronaldo as starting eleven team and use Cavani as target men.

[hahay]

Ronaldo may not be the best player anymore, but he is still very valuable. Mbappe is basically much better, faster, and more technical. But Ronaldo has much more experience and has his status with him. At the decisive moments he really put a lot of balls in it. Mbappe has yet to show it all. he has not yet succeeded in that at PSG in the CL.

Ronaldo and Mbappe, I don't think they are comparable players.
First, it would be strange if Mbappe didn't have more speed than Ronaldo at the moment, he is younger than Ronaldo, so that aspect is normal.
Then, Mbappe is also a player who seeks more physical contact. Ronaldo, on the other hand, won't be that much anymore, despite being good at one-on-one.

Comparing Ronaldo and Kylian Mbappé, It's basically like comparing Ronaldo with Messi just with the stats because they are both very different players with very different play styles.
Here I am not comparing or saying that Messi is like Kylian Mbappé or anything obviously. What I am trying to say is that these types of comparison doesn't make any sense and especially when Ronaldo is far older than Kylian Mbappé.

Well, therefore comparing them is not the right thing, there will be a time when Mbappe will have rivals like Messi and Ronaldo. At a young age, of course, they must continue to strive to achieve many achievements, but if you compare Mbappe then I think there will be a time when Mbappe will become Haaland's rival in the future. They have very big prospects from time to time but they need to join a better team and can continue to go further in the UCL event. Mbappe and Ronaldo's records are clearly different, we can't compare them now because even in the past when Ronaldo started to rise together with Manchester United I think at that time Ronaldo didn't have a rival whose quality was not much different from his age and beautiful style of play.

[$crypto$]

I don't understand if anything goes wrong in a team the problem is the coach, I know that people like to assume things a lot but I think the situation of Manchester United is like these because they have some problems in their midfield.

I am not saying that they don't have good players think of it filled but the problem is that players don't have any chemistry between them and that is why they are not being able to make the correct plays or any plays in fact.

The coach can also be the cause because he can't make a better squad sometimes with a lack of chemistry because some players are selfish so the game doesn't become more united anymore but Man United still for me will not be consistent if the game in the EPL is still like that especially in this very tight UCL.

Man United's problems are more from midfield, at the back and the coach is lacking in his strategy so I don't think he took Rangnick's decision right.

[Mr.Scott]

All of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will be available against Real Madrid. Does Real Madrid is in danger? PSG's trio are going to keep another clean sheet? Real Madrid have Benzema, Vinicius and Hazard with world-class midfield. Benzema and Vinicius alone has scored more goals than them all combined in this season all competitions, just be humble kiddos. It's very true they suffered against Man City. Let's see on 15th February.

[Boristhecat]

I know on the field played by 11 player but with Manchester United right now have different games style and looks focus when attacking counter for Ronaldo as scoring goal, maybe Manchester United need to change game play who ever have bigger chance to score can make goal without have to focus as cristiano ronaldo always for scoring goal. Maybe Manchester United need try playing without have Ronaldo as starting eleven team and use Cavani as target men.

Manchester United recently played Burnley and this was exactly the scheme used - Ronaldo came on as a substitute only in the 70th minute. Did it change anything in Manchester's game? No, in a rather simple match against the worst club in the league, Manchester United lose points by playing in a draw. I don't know how Manchester should overcome the crisis but I'm sure it's not about the team focusing on one player.

[kro55]

All of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will be available against Real Madrid. Does Real Madrid is in danger? PSG's trio are going to keep another clean sheet? Real Madrid have Benzema, Vinicius and Hazard with world-class midfield. Benzema and Vinicius alone has scored more goals than them all combined in this season all competitions, just be humble kiddos. It's very true they suffered against Man City. Let's see on 15th February.

The trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will try their best to play well in this match. As we have seen in Barcelona, ​​the chemistry between Messi and Neymar is excellent. So again against Real Madrid I want to see better performances from these two players. At the same time Ramos will play against Real Madrid in this match. Ramos is well aware of the weaknesses at Real Madrid. So in this match I will definitely keep the PSG team ahead.
Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.

[RapTarX]

Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.

Is he not yet confirmed whether will play or not? I can't remember what I have seen in the newspaper today; it was somewhat green AFAIK. He is likely to be missing the match against Villareal but will be playing the UCL. That's what I have read if I can remember correctly. Nevertheless, as I said above, though RMA will be missing Benzema if he doesn't play, still it will be a good day for Madrid; not for PSG 

[Turbolinea]

It is really exciting that last 32 round in the Champions League is starting in only four days. And we are having a start with the most attention getting match which is PSG - Real Madrid. This is absolutely the most waited match and it is really difficult to make the right prediction for this one. Everything can happen in this match for real. The most probable thing seems to me that both teams would be able to score at least one goal. And maybe PSG could win like 2-1 or 3-2.

[Iranus]

It is really exciting that last 32 round in the Champions League is starting in only four days. And we are having a start with the most attention getting match which is PSG - Real Madrid. This is absolutely the most waited match and it is really difficult to make the right prediction for this one. Everything can happen in this match for real. The most probable thing seems to me that both teams would be able to score at least one goal. And maybe PSG could win like 2-1 or 3-2.

This match is the hardest to guess. On one side are the PSG, almost all the star players in their squad, and everyone is very talented. But as a team they are not yet stable. Their performance is quite irregular yet. The star players at Real Madrid, on the other hand, may be less than the PSG, but as a team they are very stable. The Real Madrid team is definitely ahead when it comes to stratgy. But I also think PSG will win the first match.

[Jackl87]

It is really exciting that last 32 round in the Champions League is starting in only four days. And we are having a start with the most attention getting match which is PSG - Real Madrid. This is absolutely the most waited match and it is really difficult to make the right prediction for this one. Everything can happen in this match for real. The most probable thing seems to me that both teams would be able to score at least one goal. And maybe PSG could win like 2-1 or 3-2.

That really is the highlight of all the matches that will happen in the first round of the play-offs for sure and a lot of people are looking forward to it. I also think that the outcome of this match is extremely hard to predict because everything is possible here. For me it all depends on PSG if we will see a close match or not, because i am almost sure that Real Madrid will come pretty close to their peak performance in this match. Paris had a lot of bad matches this year in my opinion and i don't think that they are stronger than last year even though they signed messi. I also think though that the starts of PSG will be extremely motivated in this upcoming match.