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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129359 times)
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February 25, 2022, 10:18:36 AM
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Actually, Manchester United will be more enthusiastic when playing at home with a 1-1 capital in their pockets because I believe that Manchester United will improve their performance in order to win at home and ensure that they qualify for the next round.
It's not all about a Ronaldo, but about how to play really well in order to win against Atletico Madrid.
They played aggressively against opponents in Premier League but they did not get good results. From the match in a first leg against Athletico Madrid, I don't see any difference from Manchester United performance. They still rely on De Gea to save their goal, rely on their stars' personal performance and moments to score goals and win or get a draw. It is not what a winning team should have.

Even Athletico Madrid have their problems which are shown with their current position in La Liga, they are still have better connection and psychology in their team. I put my belief on them in the second leg, even it will be hold in Old Trafford.

I think Manchester United played quite well considering their recent form and inconsistency. I think the problem with Manchester United is that they are not being able to defend well at all and The Attacks that they are trying to form are not producing the result that they want. I think we all can agree that they looked a little desperate and frustrated in the match against Atletico Madrid.

Actually, we can say the same thing about Atletico Madrid but the only difference is they scored quite early in the match and after that, they could not form any meaningful attack in my opinion. Let's see what happens in the next leg.

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February 25, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
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Manchester United didn't play well last night and they should still be thankful for drawing with Atletico Madrid, 1-1. Because by this level of performance, they would have definitely lost against a more powerful team. They are just lucky that Atletico Madrid's effort hasn't been much different than them. But it is still doubtful if they can make it to the next round of the CL. They must be aware of a fact that they are going to have to play much better than this in the rematch to have a big chance for eliminating their opponent.

Who United?  Yeah but that away goal by Man United is so crucial tho.  And the second leg is going to be at Old Trafford so it’s a tall order and all United needs to do is prevent Atletico Madrid from scoring a goal and they’re through to the quarter finals.  So we’ll see.

Looking at the results, it’s pretty obv that all 4 English clubs have great chances to progress and go through.  Have a bad feeling City might be paired vs Liverpool at some point.  Lol.  I hope later than sooner.  Grin

Scoring that goal would make a difference for Manchester United indeed. But there is another truth that the away goal rule doesn't exist anymore. Therefore, only keeping Atletico Madrid away from scoring isn't going to be enough for Manchester United to advance. They will have to win in ninety minutes or finish this after. However I still believe in them to make it as long as they have a decent level of effort in the rematch. The only thing they mustn't do is not to play like this. They were quite inadequate about finishing their dangerous attacks with goals.

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February 25, 2022, 10:44:34 AM
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UEFA Champions League Finale  2022 in Paris
The advantage for PSG is that the final will be held in Paris considering that PSG has the potential to host but there is still a 2nd leg against Madrid, can they get a draw or win in the 2nd leg or Madrid will turn things around in the 2nd leg after the Russian invasion going to Ukraine made UEFA look for another alternative stadium as the final match of the UEFA Champions League and I think this is the right decision taken by UEFA so that the match can take place.

The relocation of the final to Paris is of course now additional motivation for PSG to reach the final, although there is still a long way to go and PSG is not as dominant as the squad makes it seem.
However, I would have liked to see the final moved to a city where no team is still in the competition.
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February 25, 2022, 10:51:02 AM
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I think the only team that is comfortable now is Manchester City. How could it not, they are already 5 goals ahead of Sporting. And in the second leg I see the impossibility that Sporting will be able to come back and turn things around from Manchester City.
Compared to other teams, Man City is the calmest facing the second leg of the Champions League, because they are already winning 5-0
on aggregate. Moreover, the second leg match will be played at home to Man City, it makes it impossible for Sporting to qualify for the next round.
Most likely Guardiola will rotate players and save some of his main players when facing Sporting in the second leg. Because Man City must maintain
the fitness of its players, so as not to experience physical fatigue, because Man City's position in the Premier League is not yet safe. Man City are
only 3 points ahead of Liverpool who are in second place, so if Man City lose points there is a possibility that Liverpool will replace Man City.
In addition, Man City also still has to play in the FA Cup, so it's best if Man City don't field all of their main players when they face Sporting
in the second leg. Even though Man City didn't field all of their main players, I still believe Man City will beat Sporting.

I absolutely agree with this because there is no reason for Manchester City to play their main squad against Sporting in the second leg., they have a big task of winning the EPL.

So, they will obviously look to save the energy for some of the important players of their squad and I also expect the manager to rotate the squad and give some of the bench players some playtime.

I know that Manchester City is not concerned about the second leg at all right now and they will be more concerned about not dropping points in the league matches.

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February 25, 2022, 11:58:28 AM
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The advantage for PSG is that the final will be held in Paris considering that PSG has the potential to host but there is still a 2nd leg against Madrid, can they get a draw or win in the 2nd leg or Madrid will turn things around in the 2nd leg after the Russian invasion going to Ukraine made UEFA look for another alternative stadium as the final match of the UEFA Champions League and I think this is the right decision taken by UEFA so that the match can take place.

The only advantage is that the game is played there, if PSG reaches the final. And I think for that to happen, they have to improve their game.
Honestly, I'm still not confident that PSG will be able to reach the final. But everything can change, we'll see.

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February 25, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
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UEFA Champions League Finale  2022 in Paris
The advantage goes to PSG to win the Champions League this year. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, St Petersburg will no longer host the Champions League final on May 28. The early signs point to Paris winning the Champions League. A slight chance exists for PSG to pull it off, and Messi doesn't need to travel far to win his fifth Champions League title.
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February 25, 2022, 12:45:10 PM
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It feels really different to witness that the home country for the finale has changed. And its being in Paris, France from now on can be a really great opportunity for PSG. If they really make it to the finale, they are going to play the match in their country. This change happened due to the invasion going on of course but I still don't know whether it is legit to change the stadium in the middle of the tournament according to the rules. But maybe there is no problem about it under this kind of conditions.

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February 25, 2022, 12:59:11 PM
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UEFA Champions League Finale  2022 in Paris
The advantage goes to PSG to win the Champions League this year. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, St Petersburg will no longer host the Champions League final on May 28. The early signs point to Paris winning the Champions League. A slight chance exists for PSG to pull it off, and Messi doesn't need to travel far to win his fifth Champions League title.

No advantage, I see no advantage, all of this are normal hype from fans.
You can't decide the finals at this stage, do and it comes and I'd say your genius.
Parisians will be playing real Madrid, Thay ha e to fa e that phase successfully before thinking of what ahead.
Although the goal is to focus on the results not the obstacles.

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February 25, 2022, 01:03:08 PM
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UEFA Champions League Finale  2022 in Paris
It's a failure of Putin and Russia. Their people don't want the war which is shown by protests in their own nation, not in Ukraine or Western nations.

The advantage for PSG is that the final will be held in Paris considering that PSG has the potential to host but there is still a 2nd leg against Madrid, can they get a draw or win in the 2nd leg or Madrid will turn things around in the 2nd leg after the Russian invasion going to Ukraine made UEFA look for another alternative stadium as the final match of the UEFA Champions League and I think this is the right decision taken by UEFA so that the match can take place.
PSG suddenly is given an opportunity to host a Champions League final and if they manage to join the final and win it, will Mbappe stays with them? It is a gift from destiny but let's see will they can get it or not. Champions League title in this season is their last resort to convince Mbappe to stay in Paris and PSG. Let's see. I guess Real Madrid and their President Florentino Perez don't like it.
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February 25, 2022, 01:31:38 PM
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Manchester United didn't play well last night and they should still be thankful for drawing with Atletico Madrid, 1-1. Because by this level of performance, they would have definitely lost against a more powerful team. They are just lucky that Atletico Madrid's effort hasn't been much different than them. But it is still doubtful if they can make it to the next round of the CL. They must be aware of a fact that they are going to have to play much better than this in the rematch to have a big chance for eliminating their opponent.
Who United?  Yeah but that away goal by Man United is so crucial tho.  And the second leg is going to be at Old Trafford so it’s a tall order and all United needs to do is prevent Atletico Madrid from scoring a goal and they’re through to the quarter finals.  So we’ll see.

Looking at the results, it’s pretty obv that all 4 English clubs have great chances to progress and go through.  Have a bad feeling City might be paired vs Liverpool at some point.  Lol.  I hope later than sooner.  Grin
Scoring that goal would make a difference for Manchester United indeed. But there is another truth that the away goal rule doesn't exist anymore. Therefore, only keeping Atletico Madrid away from scoring isn't going to be enough for Manchester United to advance. They will have to win in ninety minutes or finish this after. However I still believe in them to make it as long as they have a decent level of effort in the rematch. The only thing they mustn't do is not to play like this. They were quite inadequate about finishing their dangerous attacks with goals.

With the away goal rule no longer having an effect, then there is no other choice Man United must beat Atletico in the second leg to qualify
for the next round. Man United should have a big chance to beat Atletico, because Man United are playing at home and that is an advantage
for Man United. But Atletico won't just give up either, they will surely give their best game. So indeed the Man United vs Atletico match is
very difficult to predict, in my opinion the chances of both teams are quite equal. So I chose not to bet on the match, because it was difficult
for me to determine the winner of the Man United vs Atletico match.

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UEFA Champions League Finale  2022 in Paris
It's a failure of Putin and Russia. Their people don't want the war which is shown by protests in their own nation, not in Ukraine or Western nations.
There's no point in playing an international soccer match when one of the countries hosting is at war. Yes, the Russian public does not want the war. But the dictators have plans of their own. He don't care how sanctions will impact the people of their country. It's a long-term plan. UEFA has done a great job.
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UEFA Champions League Finale  2022 in Paris
It's a failure of Putin and Russia. Their people don't want the war which is shown by protests in their own nation, not in Ukraine or Western nations.
There's no point in playing an international soccer match when one of the countries hosting is at war. Yes, the Russian public does not want the war. But the dictators have plans of their own. He don't care how sanctions will impact the people of their country. It's a long-term plan. UEFA has done a great job.
Of course it will be very risky for the safety of many people if forcing the match to continue in a conflict country, if the organizers continue to play matches in a country that is at war, of course we can't imagine the many victims who died if one of the planes dropped a bomb on the stadium, I don't think so. only other countries in the world condemned the invasion carried out by russia into ukraine, but even the russian people also regretted the actions taken by the russian government to attack ukraine, to be honest i don't know what russia can actually get if they beat ukraine later, other than blasphemy The hatred and anger of many people towards Putin?

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February 25, 2022, 03:44:35 PM
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A tie between ATM and United could be something very great, I mean it means that United actually got a tie at Madrid and that is a great thing. Now they are going to back to Manchester and that is going to be a lot better for them. I am not saying that we are going to see a win from United but I would say getting a tie at an away game is better than getting a tie at the home game and that means ATM is at a worse situation right now then United.

I would guess that if United managed to get a tie at the away game then it should be easier for them to get a win now against ATM at their home game. This is not guaranteed but it is definitely a better situation to be in.

I think Manchester United played well enough considering their current form. they did well to draw that match after being a goal down from almost at the start of the match. But I actually expected a better performance from Athletico Madrid as this was their home match. Now Manchester United has a good chance of winning the second leg as it will be played in their home ground. But, I actually will not be surprised if something opposite happens. Because to be honest I don't trust either of these teams right now.
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I expected Chelsea to win easily against Lille and result-wise they did, but the game was more open than it looks at first glance. I was watching it because Liverpool play Chelsea in the cup final on Sunday and I wasn't impressed with Chelsea at all.

I feel they are in a downward spiral, they allowed Lille to arrive into dangerous zones quite often and couldn't keep possession well enough. They also had Kovačić and Ziyech come out with injuries so it remains to be seen whether they will be ready for the weekend.

Actually, I have to agree with this because I also think that Chelsea did not have that much control over the match as a lot of people thought they would and they had about half of the possession which is not good enough from a team like Chelsea against a very low-tier team.
They won the match but I think after they got the first goal, they took things a little easy and the opponent almost took the advantage of it. obviously, it doesn't feel like that from the scoreboard



For the Chelsea game against Lille,you can't blame Chelsea for not doing well because they've gotten to the middle of the season,when fatigue hits the team,and that is exactly what's happening to Chelsea at the moment,but yet,they are still winning matches and are still doing well.

And for the match against Liverpool by weekend,it's really going to be a tough match in deed,because Chelsea will not want to Loose to Liverpool,and vice versa.But I predict  a draw.and Liverpool winning the  on penalty shootout.

Yes, I understand that, but I think Chelsea has set their own expectations a lot higher and that's why everyone expects better from them. They did not play as expected but still got the win and in the end, I think that's what matters. and against Liverpool, it is certainly not going to be easy. To be honest, I think Liverpool is going to beat Chelsea.

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February 25, 2022, 04:59:54 PM
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The advantage for PSG is that the final will be held in Paris considering that PSG has the potential to host but there is still a 2nd leg against Madrid, can they get a draw or win in the 2nd leg or Madrid will turn things around in the 2nd leg after the Russian invasion going to Ukraine made UEFA look for another alternative stadium as the final match of the UEFA Champions League and I think this is the right decision taken by UEFA so that the match can take place.

The only advantage is that the game is played there, if PSG reaches the final. And I think for that to happen, they have to improve their game.
Honestly, I'm still not confident that PSG will be able to reach the final. But everything can change, we'll see.
This is still the beginning, in the UCL there will also be many other clubs who do not want to be left behind by PSG, we know that PSG players are filled with quality players and stars. But I still have hope for Man City, Liverpool, and also Chelsea which will be a big obstacle for PSG to advance to the final. In all Groups A to Groups H, they still take points, which means the competition is getting tougher. Moreover, for PSG, the toughest opponent in Grp A is Man City.

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February 25, 2022, 05:09:49 PM
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I actually see this is not bad and managed to draw at Atletico is actually quite good for United now.
Even though Atletico's performance is quite bad in La Liga now but they are still a great team and when Manchester United dominate it is quite good for them.
On the other hand, Leg 2 they will be at Old Trafford, of course they will do their best now I think because it is supported by thousands of fans of course it will increase their enthusiasm.
Although at Old Trafford it often doesn't produce good results when in the EPL I hope Manchester United can play very well and win against Atletico at Old Trafford in the 2nd leg later and the 1-1 result in the first leg is a good opportunity for Mancheater who must take advantage of it well in front of his fans.
I hope Ronaldo scores because this year Ronaldo hasn't scored, and yesterday's game he didn't have a good assist and nothing was even aimed at him.
But at least they are now better than Atletico and that was proven when they dominated in the first leg.
And yes of course this will add a little motivation for them when seen by their own supporters.
For Ronaldo, I really hope for the best but of course we can't depend on this one player because this will be a very personal burden when we depend on one person in a team.

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February 25, 2022, 05:32:22 PM
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I think not really have problem between Manchester United or Atletico Madrid because both team still not safety on 4th standing position on each domestic league, I see have potential for Manchester United will qualify next round with playing home on second leg. But some time Manchester United is not always take advantage playing as home because many time loss three points when play on Old Trafford. I think second leg match of EUFA Champion League will be interested match for both team and who pass to next stage.

At the moment, both teams are losing the fight for 4th place in their home championships. As for the return match, I certainly hope for United, but I think that the result will be as random as in the first meeting - both teams are in crisis and if one has a "good" day and the other does not, then we will see one result, and if the other way around opposite. It's impossible to predict anything here.

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It turns out the rumor was true! Officially, the Champions League final will not be held in Russia but Paris. In a decision made by UEFA, the final scheduled for May 28 in Saint Petersburg has been moved. Safety concerns and uncertainty surrounding international travel contributed to the decision.

That's right. According to UEFA's official Twitter account, Russian aggression against Ukraine prompted UEFA to announce an emergency meeting of the Executive Board, at which it was decided not to stage the Champions League final in St. Petersburg on May 28. In addition, all domestic matches of Ukrainian and Russian clubs and national teams participating in UEFA competitions will be played on neutral grounds until further notice.


https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1497147447004573698

Although that's a start, I feel it is not enough. In my opinion, all Russian football teams should be banned from participating in international competition.

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Ajax got a draw versus Benfica by 2-2 yesterday and they could have defeated Benfica too in fact. But I still don't think that this will cause a serious trouble for them in the second leg. I have zero expectation like Ajax would have a hard time destroying Benfica home. Benfica did a good job in Portugal and resisted them. But they can't do the same thing by the same effort to Ajax again. Ajax would demolish Benfica like they did to Sporting in the group stage of the tournament.
They took the lead quite convincingly early in the first half which made them relax a bit but this had a pretty bad impact because gradually Benfica found their rhythm in the game which made them play better from the first half. And as a result, they scored 2 goals in return.
This is clearly a loss for Ajax even though they are playing at home but still it is very bad when they can actually maintain the advantage

I didn't expect Ajax Amsterdam to destroy Benfica to be honest. They might have been the better team, but for teams like Ajax it often turns out to not be that easy to play against Benfica in Portugal in a home game. I know Bayern Munich tore them apart a while ago, but Ajax isn't Bayern Munich. However, I don't really see a big chance for Benfica to a actually beat Ajax in the second leg. They are in top shape in their home stadium and Benfica would need a good portion of luck to eventually win that game.
But on the other hand Ajax are also quite tough in my opinion and I will still be pretty sure Ajax will qualify now.
Leg 2 now Benfica will play to the Amsterdam Arena and of course the intimidation from the Stadium and Ajax supporters they must be able to control if they really want to win in the match in Leg 2. it is impossible that they will lock up Benfica again in this 2nd leg

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