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November 30, 2023, 02:08:55 PM
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I guess it's fair to assume that Bangbros are firm favorite for 1 up in this series.

It would be an insult to their batters if we are considering some sort of batting collapse tomorrow, especially against this spin attack. I've noticed this pattern, if the Subcontinent team produce any competitive spin deck or call it skill based track to SENA countries, their spinners fail 99.99% of the time. One of the main reasons "Doctored pitches" articles pop up all the time.

Well, I was expecting a batting collapse from Bangladesh as it's not odd for them. Credit to the Shanto and Mushfiq and Mominul too. But there is no reason to think they are safe at this moment. They can get packed in the next day's first session. We have two more days in hand which means we are not going to see a draw for sure.

Anyway, I am having a hard time understanding if you are also trolling them or not. Kindly help me understand if those were criticism. But, I have to agree with your statement too.
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November 30, 2023, 02:27:02 PM
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Congratulations to Najmul Hossain Shanto for an outstanding achievement in the ongoing Test match between Bangladesh and New Zealand! Scoring a century of 100 runs from 192 balls is a testament to his skill, dedication, and contribution to the team. A remarkable feat that deserves recognition. Well done, Najmul Hossain Shanto!


New Zealand were all out for 317 runs Bangladesh started their second innings trailing by seven runs. Bangladesh's team was under a lot of pressure after losing two wickets for 26 runs. Then captain Nazmul Hasan Shanto came to lead the team along with Mominul Haque. Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mominul Haque's 90-run partnership was formed and Monir Haque was run out at the head of the 90-run partnership. In the second innings, Nazmul Hasan is batting at a calm and slow pace. Nazmul Hasan Shanto has done a great batting while Nazmul Hasan Shanto has seen a century. If the partnership of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim survives well, then maybe Bangladesh will be able to collect big runs. Bangladesh ended the third day with a lead of 205 runs. At the end of the third day, Nazmul Hasan Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls and Mushfiqur Rahim scored 43 runs off 71 balls.
Bangladesh team gave a great lead against New Zealand by batting on the second day today. Bangladesh's Najmul Hossain Shanto batted brilliantly in today's match and he scored a century. It's really interesting that he scored 104 runs even though he batted at a slow pace. However, Bangladesh team played well in today's match where they bowled out New Zealand for 317 runs, Bangladesh team scored a good run today with excellent batting. Mominul Haque was in great batting form today however the way Bangladesh team batted today was really great losing only 3 wickets and collecting 212 runs. Especially in today's match a great pair was Najmul Hossain Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim which is really amazing partnership of both of them Bangladesh team managed to run so well today. Bangladesh ended the game today with a huge lead of 205 runs but the Bangladesh team must have collected better results on the third day.

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November 30, 2023, 02:43:40 PM
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In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.


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November 30, 2023, 02:46:48 PM
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I guess it's fair to assume that Bangbros are firm favorite for 1 up in this series.

It would be an insult to their batters if we are considering some sort of batting collapse tomorrow, especially against this spin attack. I've noticed this pattern, if the Subcontinent team gives any competitive spin deck or call it skill based track to SENA countries, their spinners fail 99.99% of the time.
Bangladesh lead by 205 runs and we have two days left in the match. If the Bangladesh do not lose wickets or collapse (which they should not), the most important thing will be when to declare ? They would want enough time to bowl out New Zealand in the last innings. the captain Najmul Hossain Shanto is not out at 104 runs and a lot will depend on his wicket. If he can keep the one end save, it may give roam for the other end batsmen to play freely and of course quickly.

Will the 4 sessions be enough with 350 runs lead or it can be 3.5 sessions with 400 lead ? This will be a tough decision to declare with a proper lead and proper remaining time in the match.

Shanto and Mominul put up an excellent partnership after losing the wickets of the two openers for just 26 runs. Bangladesh lost the wicket of Mominul for 116 runs. Shanto and Mushfiq then batted very responsibly. Shanto remains unbeaten on 104 runs and Mushfiqur on 43 runs. Bangladesh collected 213 runs after losing 3 wickets. If Bangladesh can bat well in the first session tomorrow, they will be able to give a target of more than 350. And if Bangladesh can give a target of more than 350 on this pitch, they have a high chance of winning. The pitch is spin friendly. And Bangladesh's spin bowlers did very well in the first innings. The spin bowlers of Bangladesh were able to take 8 wickets. I think Bangladesh's instinct to win is more now.

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November 30, 2023, 02:47:01 PM
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In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.
In 2nd inning Bangladesh scored 212/3 and 3rd day stumps off. BAN lead by 205 runs and 7 wickets remaining now. Captain Najmul Hossain on 104 and Mushfiqur Rahim on 43 are on the crease. NZ bowlers failed to take wickets in 3rd day only ijaz patel takes 1 wicket and 2 players are run out by southee and nicholls. NZ bowlers needs to take wickets early in first 2 session under 300 target. If Bangladesh lead 350+ and declare in 3rd session then it will be difficult for NZ to chase the target in last day and may be match have drawn.

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November 30, 2023, 02:55:18 PM
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The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.

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November 30, 2023, 02:59:06 PM
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In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.
In 2nd inning Bangladesh scored 212/3 and 3rd day stumps off. BAN lead by 205 runs and 7 wickets remaining now. Captain Najmul Hossain on 104 and Mushfiqur Rahim on 43 are on the crease. NZ bowlers failed to take wickets in 3rd day only ijaz patel takes 1 wicket and 2 players are run out by southee and nicholls. NZ bowlers needs to take wickets early in first 2 session under 300 target. If Bangladesh lead 350+ and declare in 3rd session then it will be difficult for NZ to chase the target in last day and may be match have drawn.

In the Test match, two batsmen of Bangladesh were run out like fools. In the past too we have seen Bangladeshi batsmen batting like fools. Bangladeshi batsmen should bat more professionally.
The performance of New Zealand's bowlers is quite poor. Ajaz Patel managed to take a wicket after bowling 23 overs. He picked up the wicket of Zakir in the 13th over. After that, New Zealand's bowlers could not pick up any wickets. New Zealand should have added experienced spin bowlers to the squad. Because almost every pitch in Bangladesh is spin friendly.

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November 30, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
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I guess it's fair to assume that Bangbros are firm favorite for 1 up in this series.

It would be an insult to their batters if we are considering some sort of batting collapse tomorrow, especially against this spin attack. I've noticed this pattern, if the Subcontinent team produce any competitive spin deck or call it skill based track to SENA countries, their spinners fail 99.99% of the time. One of the main reasons "Doctored pitches" articles pop up all the time.

Well, I was expecting a batting collapse from Bangladesh as it's not odd for them. Credit to the Shanto and Mushfiq and Mominul too. But there is no reason to think they are safe at this moment. They can get packed in the next day's first session. We have two more days in hand which means we are not going to see a draw for sure.

Anyway, I am having a hard time understanding if you are also trolling them or not. Kindly help me understand if those were criticism. But, I have to agree with your statement too.
Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.


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November 30, 2023, 03:44:09 PM
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Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.

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November 30, 2023, 04:19:43 PM
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The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.
Even in the first innings, Bangladesh's score was not bad, but in the second innings, Bangladesh's performance was much better. Najmul Hossain Shanto held his own for a long time and scored 104 out of 212 alone. Mushfiqur Rahim has also been playing very well and is yet to get out Bangladesh's performance looks really good. Now it remains to be seen how much New Zealand can handle Bangladesh although they played a bit better than Bangladesh in the first innings.

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November 30, 2023, 04:46:25 PM
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In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.
op you are right. Mahmudul Hasan didn't  bat that well today but Bangladesh team didn't face any problem due to that. Bangladesh ended the game today with 212 runs for three wickets. After a long time we saw the great partnership of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim. Although we Nazmul Hasan Shanta 2023 World Cup he played well. However, Bangladesh's 2023 World Cup was full of batting failures. We definitely want Bangladesh to win the Test series against New Zealand. It seems that the current situation of Bangladesh team's game. If the wickets of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim survive then New Zealand can be given a big run lead. And if the target of big runs can be given to New Zealand, then Bangladesh can win in the first innings if they bowl well.

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November 30, 2023, 05:00:21 PM
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In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.
In 2nd inning Bangladesh scored 212/3 and 3rd day stumps off. BAN lead by 205 runs and 7 wickets remaining now. Captain Najmul Hossain on 104 and Mushfiqur Rahim on 43 are on the crease. NZ bowlers failed to take wickets in 3rd day only ijaz patel takes 1 wicket and 2 players are run out by southee and nicholls. NZ bowlers needs to take wickets early in first 2 session under 300 target. If Bangladesh lead 350+ and declare in 3rd session then it will be difficult for NZ to chase the target in last day and may be match have drawn.
Now today end of 3 rd day of this ICC test series between Bangladesh team and New Zealand team. In this test game, Bangladesh team today batted total 68 overs on pitch and scored 212 runs from 68 overs by losing 3 wickets. M.Joy batsman was dismissed from the ground in 2 nd inning and he scored only 8 runs in 46 balls. Z.Hasan scored 17 runs in 30 balls and he hitted two 4s. M.Haque 40 runs in 68 balls and he hitted four 4s. All of these batsman were dismissed from ground. M.Shanto and M.Rahim currently are batting on pitch and M Shanto performance was brilliant and he scored 104 runs in 193 balls with ten 4s. If both these batsman build up a strong batting partnership then these batsman set a decent target. Now Bangladesh team lead by 205 runs and they have a high chance for getting win.

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November 30, 2023, 07:23:22 PM
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New Zealand batted well enough. They managed to  take a lead of 7 runs. I thought the team would lose all wickets before 300. The team was able to collect 317 runs with the help of captain Tim Southee's 35 runs.
Yeh NewZeland performance were quite bad as none of thier batter scored  three digit rather then humble boy Williamson, which cost them a huge trouble in last stage of thier innings because they required much more runs and have just two wickets in hand and they were also not a experience batter but bowler, but thanks to southee and his partner who done a magnificent job and fill.the gap of required target. Now I think Bangladesh perfectly read pitch conditions and as a result they lose quick early wickets but now some of thier quality batters build a decent partnership which I think will help them them at least to took 350+ lead again NewZeland. I believe it will be a fair target for Bangladesh to defend as they have quality bowler and NewZeland has some bad experience which definitely shifts dominance toward Bangladesh and hope they will win first test too if NewZeland bat like they had done in his recent batting turn.

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New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly.

Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.

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New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly. Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.
1st day, new Zealand did great bowling & stranded as a strong team untill Bangladesh start bowling on 2nd day and today we got the result as both team did the samilar run equivalently. And the last update is bd scored 212/3 with 68 overs where Najmul Hossain Shanto did his brilliant performance after long time and done a century 104(193) and still not out. Mushfiqur Rahim also have done great and if they can continue their partnership, Bangladesh could reach more than 350 run this time. But new Zealand is good team and they have ability to beat the targeted score

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New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly.

Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.
First innings BAN 310/all-out
First innings NZ 317/all-out
The first innings scored equal runs in this case the win or loss of this test will depend on the second innings. But Bangladesh got off to a great start in the second news and Bangladesh collected 213 runs losing 3 wickets in this case Bangladesh gave a lead of 205 runs. If Bangladesh can bat two more sessions today, Bangladesh's collection will lead to over 350 runs. So for now Bangladesh will have to bat a few more sessions to draw this match.

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Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.

When SENA spinners play in sub-continent, it is always against sub-continental teams such as India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Because no one arranges matches between two SENA nations in sub-continent pitches. And no one plays spin bowling better than sub-continental batsmen. And this maybe one of the reasons why SENA spinners such as Warne always underperformed in the subcontinent. Anyway, back then Australia had quite a few quality spinners. Apart from Shane Warne, they also had Stuart MacGill and Brad Hogg.
The highlighted part is true for subcontinent teams also, when they play in SENA so it's not an argument IMO.

Stuart MacGill hardly played any series in India so can't judge him at all but i am sure if he had then he would have received the same treatment as late Warne. Brad Hogg was a white ball spinner, not a red ball and there is a reason he only played 7 test matches.  

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New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly.

Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.

A draw from this position will not be good for Bangladesh. They are 200+ runs ahead and when you know that New Zealand has to bat last and play to survive the test match, Bangladesh should go for a kill rather than just settle for a draw.

Seriously if Bangladesh aren't able to win this position, I do not expect anything from them. Also, a win for them will make the series which they cannot lose. So they may be going to the 2nd test match with much more conviction and confidence. This test match is crucial for the team's confidence and future.

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December 01, 2023, 02:07:05 AM
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The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.
Even in the first innings, Bangladesh's score was not bad, but in the second innings, Bangladesh's performance was much better. Najmul Hossain Shanto held his own for a long time and scored 104 out of 212 alone. Mushfiqur Rahim has also been playing very well and is yet to get out Bangladesh's performance looks really good. Now it remains to be seen how much New Zealand can handle Bangladesh although they played a bit better than Bangladesh in the first innings.

Bangladesh will definitely be able to perform well on the second day of the second innings. Meanwhile, Nazmul Hasan Shanta and Mushfiqur Rahim pair is very strong as they have spent the night at the end of the day, so the tired body has regained strength. Of course, like today's new day, they will perform beautifully, Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto will perform well, it is a lot of hope from Bangladesh. As the first innings New Zealand team is not much ahead. Our hope is that if the Bangladesh team can perform well today, then if they can collect more runs in the second innings, they will definitely be able to keep the New Zealand team under pressure. Because Bangladesh's bowling is also very strong.

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December 01, 2023, 02:40:45 AM
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Bangladesh will definitely be able to perform well on the second day of the second innings. Meanwhile, Nazmul Hasan Shanta and Mushfiqur Rahim pair is very strong as they have spent the night at the end of the day, so the tired body has regained strength. Of course, like today's new day, they will perform beautifully, Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto will perform well, it is a lot of hope from Bangladesh. As the first innings New Zealand team is not much ahead. Our hope is that if the Bangladesh team can perform well today, then if they can collect more runs in the second innings, they will definitely be able to keep the New Zealand team under pressure. Because Bangladesh's bowling is also very strong.

Bangladesh is in a very comfortable position, with a lead of 205 runs with 7 wickets remaining. If they can add another 90-100 runs, then there is no chance for New Zealand win. The 4th wicket partnership between Mushfiqur Rahim and Najmul Hossain Shanto has so far added 96 runs, as once again the New Zealand spinners failed to do their job (Ajaz Patel and Ish Sodhi). Perhaps the New Zealand captain need to give more spells to his pacers (Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson), as the slow bowlers are not doing their job. But then the conditions are not very helpful.

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