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July 14, 2023, 04:36:24 AM
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India still have enough wickets in hand if India leads by 250+ runs, it seems that West Indies will not be able to take the team and will lose.
Where two opening batsmen have scored centuries and an opening batsman is unbeaten on 143 runs, there are still enough wickets in hand so why do we expect 250 plus runs. India is already 162 runs ahead, so they will score only 88 runs with 8 wickets in hand on the third day? You just have to wait for India's third day to see where India's runs end up. The Indian target now is to follow the West Indies, in which case they will bat a little aggressively on the third day. Virat Kohli and Yashasvi Jaiswal on the wicket so far will pick up on day two from where they left off on day three. If it is possible to score 500 plus runs, then West Indies will have a great chance to follow.
Definitely, India will post more than 350+ runs for West Indies so they can win by innings. There is no reason to declare the innings without scoring enough runs. Indian Batting line is good enough to score 300 more runs while they have eight wickets in hand. Yashasvi Jaiswal has a chance to score a double-century. What a talented young batter. I have seen his journey on social media.

He scored a century in every tournament he played. Scoring a double century in debut is an extraordinary achievement. If he can score a double century in this match, he will be the 8th batter to score a double century in a debut. Only three double century was scored in debut in the last 20 years.

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July 14, 2023, 05:14:11 AM
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Definitely, India will post more than 350+ runs for West Indies so they can win by innings. There is no reason to declare the innings without scoring enough runs. Indian Batting line is good enough to score 300 more runs while they have eight wickets in hand. Yashasvi Jaiswal has a chance to score a double-century. What a talented young batter. I have seen his journey on social media.

He scored a century in every tournament he played. Scoring a double century in debut is an extraordinary achievement. If he can score a double century in this match, he will be the 8th batter to score a double century in a debut. Only three double century was scored in debut in the last 20 years.

For India the problem is with oversupply. What Jaiswal will do when Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant are back in the team? Already Jaiswal, Gill and Ishan Kishan are fighting for the same spot. I think ICC need to allow two test teams from India. Else a lot of talented players will find themselves outside the team despite the fact that they are performing really well. Anyway, this series is turning out to be a farce. West Indies cricket is in hard times. They lost to Scotland and Netherlands earlier this month and now they are getting hammered by Indian youngsters.

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July 14, 2023, 05:14:53 AM
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India's opening batting was excellent. Both scored centuries, Rohit Sharma was out on 103, Yashasvi Jaiswal unbeaten on 143. So far India has given a lead of 162 runs Day 2 Stumps. India still have enough wickets in hand if India leads by 250+ runs, it seems that West Indies will not be able to take the team and will lose. Because in the first innings, West Indies were all out for only 150 runs.  Let's see how many runs India can lead.

LOL.. it will take a miracle from West Indies to restrict India's lead to just 250. Remember that they are leading by 162 runs with 8 wickets in hand. And in case West Indies want to restrict India's lead to 250 runs, then they need to take all the remaining wickets for just 88 runs. I would say that it is an impossible task, given the fact that India has a strong middle and lower order. Ajinkya Rahane, Ravindra Jadeja, Ishan Kishan, Ravichandran Ashwin and Shardul Thakur are yet to bat. My guess is that India will get to a lead of at least 500 runs.

At the end of Day 2, India are 312 runs for the loss of 2 wickets. They enter Day 3 with a lead of 162 runs and still have 8 wickets in hand. The batting performance by the Indian players has been quite slow in recent times, which is disappointing. We're expecting them to score at a faster runs. Anyway, they are now nearly 200 runs ahead with 3 days remaining in the game. If they manage to add another 250 runs tomorrow, they can put West Indies under pressure and then quickly wrap up their innings within Day 4. The way Kohli is batting, he can score century tomorrow. Yashasvi Jaiswal has also been impressive throughout the innings, and he is on track to get a double century as well.

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July 14, 2023, 06:23:53 AM
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At the end of Day 2, India are 312 runs for the loss of 2 wickets. They enter Day 3 with a lead of 162 runs and still have 8 wickets in hand. The batting performance by the Indian players has been quite slow in recent times, which is disappointing. We're expecting them to score at a faster runs. Anyway, they are now nearly 200 runs ahead with 3 days remaining in the game. If they manage to add another 250 runs tomorrow, they can put West Indies under pressure and then quickly wrap up their innings within Day 4. The way Kohli is batting, he can score century tomorrow. Yashasvi Jaiswal has also been impressive throughout the innings, and he is on track to get a double century as well.

There is a good chance that this match will get over by today, if India bats aggressively. But so far I haven't noticed any intention from the Indian batsmen to do so. India has so far made 312 runs from 113 overs (2.76 runs per over). There is no reason to bat so slowly, given the low quality of the West Indian bowling attack. The two spinners (Jomel Warrican and Alick Athanaze) had an economy rate of just around 2.5 runs per over, as both Yashasvi Jaiswal and Virat Kohli were being overcautious in their approach.

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July 14, 2023, 06:24:16 AM
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The batting performance by the Indian players has been quite slow in recent times, which is disappointing. We're expecting them to score at a faster runs.
This is a test match. What did you expect? Very few teams like England use the Bazball approach while the majority take their time. The Indian batsmen are playing at an optimal pace and are on track to decimate WI.

The way Kohli is batting, he can score century tomorrow. Yashasvi Jaiswal has also been impressive throughout the innings, and he is on track to get a double century as well.
Kohli might score a century, but I am not expecting Jaiswal to score a double century. The hype surrounding him was totally worth it.

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Jaiswal and Virat kohli batting performance is very good especially if they can perform well today then surely Jaiswal has the possibility of double century. Shubman Gill could not show his performance in this match but Jaiswal on his part fulfilled the interest but it is best if the match ends today. Jaiswal is starting to play his first Test match so his performance looks very good as his score of 143 runs proved to the crowd and there is a possibility of a double century. West Indies should improve the bowling performance of the spinners because with the current pair out West Indies they can fall more wickets but the bowling performance must be improved.

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July 14, 2023, 07:13:47 AM
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This is a test match. What did you expect? Very few teams like England use the Bazball approach while the majority take their time. The Indian batsmen are playing at an optimal pace and are on track to decimate WI.

Optimal scoring rate would be somewhere around 3.50 runs per over. This is a very flat track and despite that India has been scoring at a rate of 2.7 runs per over, which was below my expectation. England while using Bazball approach usually scores at above 4.5 runs per over, and at times the run rate may shoot up higher than a run per ball. I am not expecting the same from the Indian batsmen. Hopefully they would step up the scoring rate today, and that would help them to declare the innings sometime during second session of play today.

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This is a test match. What did you expect? Very few teams like England use the Bazball approach while the majority take their time. The Indian batsmen are playing at an optimal pace and are on track to decimate WI.

Optimal scoring rate would be somewhere around 3.50 runs per over. This is a very flat track and despite that India has been scoring at a rate of 2.7 runs per over, which was below my expectation. England while using Bazball approach usually scores at above 4.5 runs per over, and at times the run rate may shoot up higher than a run per ball. I am not expecting the same from the Indian batsmen. Hopefully they would step up the scoring rate today, and that would help them to declare the innings sometime during second session of play today.
This Bazball really ruining everyone, right?  Grin

They might start accelerating their inning today, although it should've been from the start. They have plenty of time and some out of form batters can use some practice as well so I would prefer if they bat all day.

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July 14, 2023, 08:09:51 AM
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Jaiswal and Virat kohli batting performance is very good especially if they can perform well today then surely Jaiswal has the possibility of double century. Shubman Gill could not show his performance in this match but Jaiswal on his part fulfilled the interest but it is best if the match ends today. Jaiswal is starting to play his first Test match so his performance looks very good as his score of 143 runs proved to the crowd and there is a possibility of a double century. West Indies should improve the bowling performance of the spinners because with the current pair out West Indies they can fall more wickets but the bowling performance must be improved.
End of 2nd day test match Indian Opener Rohit and Jaiswal showcased their dominance with a strong batting performance. Yashasvi Jaiswal brilliant unbeaten century has gotten India to a commanding position of 143 runs Not out also Rohit Sharma contribution of 103 runs they have set a solid foundation. The current score of 312 runs for the loss of only 2 wickets speaks volues about India batting prowess. The West Indies poor bowling performance face a challenging task to restrict India lead at lower 400 especially when Virat Kohli is at playing 36 runs not out and the lower order yet to bat I think India will get to a lead of at least 450 runs

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Among the Indian batsmen, Shubman Gill is the only one who missed out, as he was dismissed for just 6 runs by Jomel Warrican. Everyone else got a good boost to their career batting stats, including the debutant Yashasvi Jaiswal. Rohit Sharma badly needed this boost after a few ordinary performances in the recent past. And let's not forget those players who got the opportunity to boost their career bowling stats, such as Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja. I guess that is the only purpose of this series. BTW, it was a good opportunity for the selectors to test some of the younger players (apart from Jaiswal). 
Sometime happen like this while you have big partnership then teams mostly lost 2 or three wickets so this time Shubman Gill was gone because they were feeling relaxed now we have good chance for the Virat Kohli to do something big because as he is currently playing he deserves big hundred and debutant Jasiwal is also in good touch so some more time than we will have double century from him with performance like this is going to be remembered for long time.

From here now India need another 150 to 170 runs which will be enough for them to have win by an inning because after watching first inning I have feeling most chances Ashwin and Jadeja will not allow them to have stay at the crease and create problems for them while their quality is already at the bottom of test format.

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This is a test match. What did you expect? Very few teams like England use the Bazball approach while the majority take their time. The Indian batsmen are playing at an optimal pace and are on track to decimate WI.

Optimal scoring rate would be somewhere around 3.50 runs per over. This is a very flat track and despite that India has been scoring at a rate of 2.7 runs per over, which was below my expectation. England while using Bazball approach usually scores at above 4.5 runs per over, and at times the run rate may shoot up higher than a run per ball. I am not expecting the same from the Indian batsmen. Hopefully they would step up the scoring rate today, and that would help them to declare the innings sometime during second session of play today.
I think in the first two days, India focused more on keeping wickets, which is why they failed to bat at a good economic rate per over. But since they have time and wickets, increasing this economic rate will not be a difficult task. Today when India comes out to bat on the third day maybe they will come out with a plan to increase their run rate before coming out. With enough confidence in their bowling department, perhaps the Indian batsmen are not in that much of a rush to score runs because if they can collect a few more runs today and invite the West Indies to bat in the second innings, they will be all out before West Indies can level a big score. Maybe Team India is batting slowly with such a plan.

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July 14, 2023, 08:57:17 AM
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For India the problem is with oversupply. What Jaiswal will do when Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant are back in the team? Already Jaiswal, Gill and Ishan Kishan are fighting for the same spot. I think ICC need to allow two test teams from India. Else a lot of talented players will find themselves outside the team despite the fact that they are performing really well. Anyway, this series is turning out to be a farce. West Indies cricket is in hard times. They lost to Scotland and Netherlands earlier this month and now they are getting hammered by Indian youngsters.
Look at their country's size and population. Almost 20% population of the world is from India. Yes, 1.4 Billion people live in India, where plenty of players like Kohli are playing in the street, and nobody knows them. India can easily build at least three teams with top players. The competition is good for the team. But it's skeptical when you see this from a player's perspective. A player must perform extraordinarily to get a chance at national duty.

West Indies' performance has gone down trend since the last couple of years. Bangladesh won a series against them in their home condition. It's because of the corruption of the West Indies cricket board. They don't pay well to their players. That's why their top players only play in premier leagues abroad and don't want to play for the national team.

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Among the Indian batsmen, Shubman Gill is the only one who missed out, as he was dismissed for just 6 runs by Jomel Warrican. Everyone else got a good boost to their career batting stats, including the debutant Yashasvi Jaiswal. Rohit Sharma badly needed this boost after a few ordinary performances in the recent past. And let's not forget those players who got the opportunity to boost their career bowling stats, such as Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja. I guess that is the only purpose of this series. BTW, it was a good opportunity for the selectors to test some of the younger players (apart from Jaiswal). 
Sometime happen like this while you have big partnership then teams mostly lost 2 or three wickets so this time Shubman Gill was gone because they were feeling relaxed now we have good chance for the Virat Kohli to do something big because as he is currently playing he deserves big hundred and debutant Jasiwal is also in good touch so some more time than we will have double century from him with performance like this is going to be remembered for long time.
From here now India need another 150 to 170 runs which will be enough for them to have win by an inning because after watching first inning I have feeling most chances Ashwin and Jadeja will not allow them to have stay at the crease and create problems for them while their quality is already at the bottom of test format.

India is definitely going to win this match by an innings difference. They have only lost two wickets. It is only the end of day two. India is leading by 162 and they still have eight wickets in hand. They are certainly going to play that whole third day for sure. They will probably declare at the end of the third day or maybe at the start of the fourth day. I do not think that they are going to get all out before that. After that, probably India will have a lead of more than 300. West Indies is not going to get 300 in their second innings for sure.

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For India the problem is with oversupply. What Jaiswal will do when Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant are back in the team? Already Jaiswal, Gill and Ishan Kishan are fighting for the same spot. I think ICC need to allow two test teams from India. Else a lot of talented players will find themselves outside the team despite the fact that they are performing really well. Anyway, this series is turning out to be a farce. West Indies cricket is in hard times. They lost to Scotland and Netherlands earlier this month and now they are getting hammered by Indian youngsters.
Yashasvi Jaiswal will book his place as an opener even if Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant returns and he is a youngster with great potential as he is scoring runs at an average of 80 in first class and glad that the selectors have given him the opportunity to play for the national side this early and if he could maintain the same level of consistency against other teams, Yashasvi Jaiswal will have a spot for over a decade.
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Yashasvi Jaiswal will book his place as an opener even if Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant returns and he is a youngster with great potential as he is scoring runs at an average of 80 in first class and glad that the selectors have given him the opportunity to play for the national side this early and if he could maintain the same level of consistency against other teams, Yashasvi Jaiswal will have a spot for over a decade.
You are exaggerating way too much. Jaiswal is a great batsman with a ton of potential for sure, but he doesn't hold a candle to players like Pant, Gill etc who have far more experience against all teams in multiple formats.

I would choose players like Pant over him any day in any format since they have proven their worth over time.

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For India the problem is with oversupply. What Jaiswal will do when Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant are back in the team? Already Jaiswal, Gill and Ishan Kishan are fighting for the same spot. I think ICC need to allow two test teams from India. Else a lot of talented players will find themselves outside the team despite the fact that they are performing really well. Anyway, this series is turning out to be a farce. West Indies cricket is in hard times. They lost to Scotland and Netherlands earlier this month and now they are getting hammered by Indian youngsters.
Yashasvi Jaiswal will book his place as an opener even if Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant returns and he is a youngster with great potential as he is scoring runs at an average of 80 in first class and glad that the selectors have given him the opportunity to play for the national side this early and if he could maintain the same level of consistency against other teams, Yashasvi Jaiswal will have a spot for over a decade.
All 3 players or any young players can play their respective roles in the Indian team if they are successful.

Jaiswal is an opener. Shreyas Iyer is middle order batter and Rishab Pant is also the middle order batter plus gloveman. They are not competitors in any way but can complement each other when playing for India in any format. 


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July 14, 2023, 02:49:57 PM
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Among the Indian batsmen, Shubman Gill is the only one who missed out, as he was dismissed for just 6 runs by Jomel Warrican. Everyone else got a good boost to their career batting stats, including the debutant Yashasvi Jaiswal. Rohit Sharma badly needed this boost after a few ordinary performances in the recent past. And let's not forget those players who got the opportunity to boost their career bowling stats, such as Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja. I guess that is the only purpose of this series. BTW, it was a good opportunity for the selectors to test some of the younger players (apart from Jaiswal). 
Sometime happen like this while you have big partnership then teams mostly lost 2 or three wickets so this time Shubman Gill was gone because they were feeling relaxed now we have good chance for the Virat Kohli to do something big because as he is currently playing he deserves big hundred and debutant Jasiwal is also in good touch so some more time than we will have double century from him with performance like this is going to be remembered for long time.
From here now India need another 150 to 170 runs which will be enough for them to have win by an inning because after watching first inning I have feeling most chances Ashwin and Jadeja will not allow them to have stay at the crease and create problems for them while their quality is already at the bottom of test format.

India is definitely going to win this match by an innings difference. They have only lost two wickets. It is only the end of day two. India is leading by 162 and they still have eight wickets in hand. They are certainly going to play that whole third day for sure. They will probably declare at the end of the third day or maybe at the start of the fourth day. I do not think that they are going to get all out before that. After that, probably India will have a lead of more than 300. West Indies is not going to get 300 in their second innings for sure.


Look like the Indian batsmen are having good batting practice. They have no match pressure on them and they are exploring the conditions to their very best. Just look at their scorecard, Yashasvi Jaiswal was not out at 162 runs and the captain Rohit Sharma made 103 runs. They must be looking for a win by an innings in this match.

As far as the West Indies are concerned, I feel pity for them. First, they are out of 50 over World Cup qualification, and every match they play, they always find themselves on the losing side. Look like, the cricket just not suits them now.

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July 14, 2023, 03:42:49 PM
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The pitch has virtually no demons but scoring runs at a good pace is not an easy task as well.

New kid Jaiswal knows a thing or two about scoring quickly but it's a different format and he adapted nicely in red ball cricket. Kohli already got one life, thanks to a dropped catch. He should also used this opportunity to go big. Rahane went back to his god mode form after getting VC.  Grin


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July 14, 2023, 03:56:27 PM
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Look like the Indian batsmen are having good batting practice. They have no match pressure on them and they are exploring the conditions to their very best. Just look at their scorecard, Yashasvi Jaiswal was not out at 162 runs and the captain Rohit Sharma made 103 runs. They must be looking for a win by an innings in this match.

As far as the West Indies are concerned, I feel pity for them. First, they are out of 50 over World Cup qualification, and every match they play, they always find themselves on the losing side. Look like, the cricket just not suits them now.

Stunning performance from West Indies these days, don't know where they are heading. With too much focus on T20 leagues, WI totally forget how to play ODI and Test. India have taken a lead of 243 runs and 6 batsmen still to come. Relief here for Kohli as he is having good time with bat also. In front of such weak bowling lineup it's easy to score runs and Indians batsmen are just destroying WI bowlers.

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July 14, 2023, 04:10:41 PM
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Did anyone see how Jadeja paused in between while bowling in order to check his hairstyle through his shades? It was hilarious and it was even more hilarious watching the umpire wait for him.

Also, I found out that Jaiswal has the 3rd highest test debut score after Dhawan(187) and Sharma(177). Epic stuff!

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