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October 27, 2023, 12:35:32 PM
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.


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October 27, 2023, 12:41:01 PM
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Too early to say anything. Pakistan got the initial advantage, when they won the toss and then decided to bat first. A lot will depend on how long Babar Azam stays out there. After these two, it is the allrounders and then the bowlers. Both the top-runs corers for Pakistan are out now (Mohammad Rizwan and Abdullah Shafique). Babar was in poor form until now, and it needs to be seen whether he will be able to rescue Pakistan today. So far both of them are looking somewhat comfortable against the spinners. But what will happen once Jansen and Coetzee are re-introduced?

Pakistan team throughout the tournament failed to attack the opponent and this is exactly happening in today's game also. After 25 overs Pakistan going with 5 run per over. With this scoring rate Pakistan will only be able to give a target of 270 or 300 maximum. Seeing the bowling form of Pakistani bowlers 300 won't be a safe target. Pakistan already lost 4 wickets and there chances of scoring 300 are now very slim.
In starting of this match, Pakistan batting was very low quality and their opener batter did not show great effort in batting and they did not manage big score. Abdullah Shafique got got after making 9 score just only. Imam ul Haq got out at 12 score which was not show good performance. Babar Azam performance was just little bit impressive because he scored 50 score and not complete full century at least complete his half century and his performance better performance then other batters like Muhammad Rizwan. Now they lost all main batters of their team and only 3 batters remain for batting which is all bowler of their squad. At present, Pakistan successfully made 250 score in 43 overs and let's see at the end their batting how much they will give a defending target to South Africa team.

Nawaz play very well and he hit a beautiful boundary in just the previous ball, i know you see later this post that’s why I mentioned the over name 43.9. In this ball, he hit a best, amazing, and amazing boundary. Anyway, Shamsi was very harmful in this match for Pakistan because he took the 3 best and game-changer batsmen of Pakistan, and Pakistan batsmen played very well in this match and they should have because if Pakistan lost this match so maybe Pakistan lost the World Cup. Now, 3 or 4 overs left in the Pakistan innings, so let’s see what happens in these overs.

The total runs that Pakistan finishes will matter the most as their bowlers need some good total to bowl and defend.

Pakistan ended up being 270 all out in the 47th over.  This may seem a good recovery but there is nothing to be optimistic about the Pakistan team today.

We know that South Africa has one of the best batting line up and this 270 score is nothing for them to chase. Pakistan's only hope is to get quick wickets and keep on taking the wickets throughout the innings until they are able to bowl them out. If the South African batsmen are able to play the whole 50 overs, I don't think that Pakistan bowlers can defend that small score.
Yes, 270 is a small score on the pitches of India where even 350 seems insufficient at times.

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October 27, 2023, 12:52:27 PM
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.
South Africa needs 271 runs to win and get closer to confirm their place in the semi-finals. South African bowlers performed really well today, but they should work on reducing the number of wide deliveries they bowl. Scoring 270 runs is a decent achievement for Pakistan, especially considering they were 110/4 at one point. Now, it all depends on how well the Pakistani bowlers can perform. South Africa hasn't been great at chasing targets, so this match will be a real test of their ability to chase down a total.

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October 27, 2023, 01:09:48 PM
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.

Pakistan team could not score many runs as South Africa team is very strong in terms of bowling. That's why the fall of wickets of Pakistan team was more, Pakistan team collected only 270 runs. The target of 270 runs is a small target for South Africa as the South African team is in good bThe South African team has lost one wicket at the moment but if they keep losing wickets like the Pakistan team then the last time will definitely be under a lot of pressure. So if the South African team wants to win then they must protect the wicket and perform well in the end.

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October 27, 2023, 01:10:47 PM
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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.

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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.

Yes, for sure, South Africa will win today's game as they only need now 150 runs and they have 30 overs remaining to make these runs. Also with 8 wickets in hand who can stop them from winning this convincingly?

Both England and Pakistan team disappointed in this World Cup. They did not play to their potential. Both teams have some great players but it seems that they are playing an individual cause and not as a team. There is no planning and these two teams haven't adapted to the conditions and shifted their mindsets that here under 300 runs are not defendable.

Pakistan will be out of the World Cup race and I guess it is only a matter of time before England will face the same fate.

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October 27, 2023, 02:44:23 PM
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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.
Today Pak lost, all hopes lost.
Don't worry, 2027 world cup Pak would better.

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October 27, 2023, 02:50:13 PM
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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.
Today Pak lost, all hopes lost.
Don't worry, 2027 world cup Pak would better.
Please no worries two quick wickets bring back Pakistan into the game good fightback from them just one more and South Africa could be in trouble as they have history of feeling this while chasing, let's enjoy the game and keep cool.

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October 27, 2023, 02:57:53 PM
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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.
Pakistan could not play full 50 overs in today's match against South Africa. They managed to score 270 runs in 46.4 overs losing all wickets. This 270 runs can never be enough to win today's match against South Africa. If Pakistan could have played the full 50 overs and added 30 more runs, they might have given South Africa a target of 300 runs in today's match, which would have put South Africa under more pressure. Pakistan will crash in the second round if they lose today's match against South Africa. At the moment, South Africa have collected 154 runs for the loss of 4 wickets in 25 overs. South Africa need only 117 runs in 25 overs to win and today's match looks like South Africa can easily score 117 runs.

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October 27, 2023, 03:00:57 PM
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In the 26th match of the World Cup, the two biggest teams of the tournament will meet in Chennai today. South Africa managed to secure their position by playing the first five matches but Pakistan could not secure their position at all. South Africa is number two in the points table with four wins after playing five matches and Pakistan is number six in the points table with only two wins after playing the same number of matches. It will be a tough fight between the two teams today. 

After back-to-back defeats, Pakistan will definitely want to bounce back in today's match. If Pakistan can't come back in this match today, they will be far away from the semi-final and if South Africa wins this match today, they will have a big chance of making the semi-final. 

Between Pakistan and South Africa, the team that wins the toss is guaranteed to bat first as it is safe to bat first on the Chennai wicket.

The pitch of MA Chidambaram Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 227 runs. However, in the previous match on this pitch, Pakistan team lost to Afghanistan even after giving a target of 283 runs. Opponent of today's match South Africa team is stronger. I would say the outcome of today's match will depend on the performance of the bowlers. Pakistan bowlers could not do well against Afghanistan. If Pakistan's bowlers don't perform well against South Africa as well then Pakistan will definitely lose and lose by a big margin. Pakistani bowlers must do well if they want to win today's match. However, today's match is likely to be competitive.
Even though Chennai's wicket was a bit of a bowling aid, I would say Pakistan didn't score enough runs in their first innings. The way the game played in 36 overs, Pakistan could have crossed the 300 mark but the batsmen's extra haste saw Pakistan's total piled on 270 runs in the end. With no wicket in hand, it was unwise for Pakistan to bat in haste at that time. 

290 to 300 runs could have been scored even if they could have stood on the wicket till 50 overs but Pakistan could not do that. The target for South Africa is 271 runs but I won't say that Pakistan bowlers are bowling very well as they have picked up four wickets in 26 overs but if you look at the current run rate it will be seen that South African batsmen are picking up 6+ runs per over. With enough wickets in hand and not too much of a target, the outcome of this match might go in South Africa's favour.
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October 27, 2023, 03:04:50 PM
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Pakistan team could not score many runs as South Africa team is very strong in terms of bowling. That's why the fall of wickets of Pakistan team was more, Pakistan team collected only 270 runs. The target of 270 runs is a small target for South Africa as the South African team is in good bThe South African team has lost one wicket at the moment but if they keep losing wickets like the Pakistan team then the last time will definitely be under a lot of pressure. So if the South African team wants to win then they must protect the wicket and perform well in the end.


I think South Africa team is not very strong in terms of bowling, but Pakistan team is weak in terms of batting.Pakistan wickets keep falling in front of every opposition team, so you find South Africa bowling strong.Even if the Pakistani team would have scored 350 runs, Pakistan bowling is so weak that the South African team would have achieved that target.The South African team always keeps their run rate high.

The South African team scores a lot of runs in the last 10 overs in this World Cup.they have very dangerous hitters who are capable of turning the tide of a match at any time.Currently, four players have been dismissed for their 168 runs and only 27 overs have been played.I think South Africa would have easily won this match.


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October 27, 2023, 03:14:26 PM
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.
South Africa needs 271 runs to win and get closer to confirm their place in the semi-finals. South African bowlers performed really well today, but they should work on reducing the number of wide deliveries they bowl. Scoring 270 runs is a decent achievement for Pakistan, especially considering they were 110/4 at one point. Now, it all depends on how well the Pakistani bowlers can perform. South Africa hasn't been great at chasing targets, so this match will be a real test of their ability to chase down a total.
A target of 270 runs is not a big pressure for the South African team. Although they lost 4 wickets at this point, they were almost on the verge of victory. I can't trust the Pakistan team because the reputation of their bowling action has seen a big change in the last few days. None of the bowlers are performing as well as the team needs. Pakistan had good hope for Shaheen Afridi but it is not living up to expectations. With such a performance of the team, according to the World Cup, the possibility of going further in the tournament will gradually diminish for the team. On the other hand, South Africa is not accepted that they will do better but they are performing well in this tournament.

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October 27, 2023, 03:16:26 PM
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So far it seems to me that it's a competition between who will bowl more full tosses and dollies per over and as of now Pakistan seems to winning that contest.

Batters don't want to be left behind so they are also competing on throwing their wickets after a good start, except for Rassie, that's a story so far. Proteas middle order showing a tremendous amount of consistency with the bat and it's a big plus for them. 1 more wicket for Pakistan and will have a juicy ending.

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October 27, 2023, 03:21:38 PM
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You are probably right. Pakistan elected to bat after winning the toss. I thought maybe Pakistan's top order would bat responsibly today. But even in today's match Pakistan batsmen could not start well. Pakistan team lost 2 wickets for 38 runs and third wicket for 86 runs. Pakistan team is not playing well. Babar Azam and Iftikhar are batting now. At the end of 20 overs, Pakistan collected 102 runs with the loss of 3 wickets. Pakistan's run rate is good enough but their top order is not playing well. 300 will be much more difficult for Pakistan now. I don't think it is possible for South Africa team to win if they target below 300. Because South African batsmen are in very good form now. They have batted well in every match. Pakistan is likely to lose in today's match as well.
Too early to say anything. Pakistan got the initial advantage, when they won the toss and then decided to bat first. A lot will depend on how long Babar Azam stays out there. After these two, it is the allrounders and then the bowlers. Both the top-runs corers for Pakistan are out now (Mohammad Rizwan and Abdullah Shafique). Babar was in poor form until now, and it needs to be seen whether he will be able to rescue Pakistan today. So far both of them are looking somewhat comfortable against the spinners. But what will happen once Jansen and Coetzee are re-introduced?

Pakistan managed to set a target of 271 runs. Pakistan lost by giving Afghanistan a target of 283 runs on this pitch. A target of just 271 runs is not enough to win against a team like South Africa. Pakistan should have provided at least more than 300 targets. But like the previous matches, today too their performance was very poor. South African batsmen are in very good form. Although the top order of South Africa did not play very well today, still after 30 overs, South Africa collected 191 runs with the loss of 4 wickets. The team needed just 80 runs in 20 overs to win. If the team does not lose 2/3 wickets very quickly, then this is not a big task for them.

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October 27, 2023, 03:25:40 PM
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.

Pakistan team could not score many runs as South Africa team is very strong in terms of bowling. That's why the fall of wickets of Pakistan team was more, Pakistan team collected only 270 runs. The target of 270 runs is a small target for South Africa as the South African team is in good bThe South African team has lost one wicket at the moment but if they keep losing wickets like the Pakistan team then the last time will definitely be under a lot of pressure. So if the South African team wants to win then they must protect the wicket and perform well in the end.

Yes South Africa team is very strong in bowling line. It seems that South Africa team will win today's match. South Africa team now need 77 runs to win today's match. Scored 194 runs in 31 overs. So far South Africa team has lost 4 wickets.


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October 27, 2023, 03:27:52 PM
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Jansen, Coetzee and Shamsi were great with the ball while Pakistan just messed up once again. 270 is a really bad total in a 50 overs game especially against a team like South African batsmen who have been in phenomenal form these days.

Am expecting South Africa to win this one pretty easily as expected which would knock Pakistan out of the semifinals race.
Today Pak lost, all hopes lost.
Don't worry, 2027 world cup Pak would better.

Really? Do you come from a future that you know that Pakistan will play better in 2027.

The way they are playing, who knows in coming years, we may not even qualify for the World Cup just like the Legends West Indies team. You need to be optimistic about your team if you see there is anything better coming up but right now I do not see any progress for the national team.

Baber Azam would not remain the captain of the Pakistan team after this World Cup. We need to see if we finish last in the points table or close to the last teams.

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October 27, 2023, 03:36:40 PM
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In today's match of Pakistan vs South Africa team, Pakistan team has given a target of 270 runs in 46.4 overs. Pakistan team has gone all out today for the poor performance of Pakistan team batsmen. Babar Azam has been out for 50 runs in 65 balls. Mohammad Rizwan has been out for 31 runs in 27 balls.  The bowlers of the South Africa team had a really good performance. Tabraiz Shamsi took 4 wickets with 60 runs in 10 overs. Marco Jansen took 3 wickets with 43 runs in 9 overs.
Pakistan team could not score many runs as South Africa team is very strong in terms of bowling. That's why the fall of wickets of Pakistan team was more, Pakistan team collected only 270 runs. The target of 270 runs is a small target for South Africa as the South African team is in good bThe South African team has lost one wicket at the moment but if they keep losing wickets like the Pakistan team then the last time will definitely be under a lot of pressure. So if the South African team wants to win then they must protect the wicket and perform well in the end.
From this world cup defeats against big teams bring all Pakistani mistakes and weaknesses exposed because they are having no quality spinners and their top batsmen are fail to handle quality spinners even today South African spinners done impressive performance which outclass them and Pakistani fast bowlers which were hyped as best in the world are also having nothing to produce anything positive from these flat tracks.

Hopefully they will take these defeats as lesson for the future because if they want to have better future in this game they have to do changes into their domestic setup which is under experiments for the long time, and we are fail to have anything good otherwise Pakistani cricket can also go into backlash like we have Sri Lanka and West Indies with nothing to be good for them.

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October 27, 2023, 04:07:43 PM
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In the 26th match of the World Cup, the two biggest teams of the tournament will meet in Chennai today. South Africa managed to secure their position by playing the first five matches but Pakistan could not secure their position at all. South Africa is number two in the points table with four wins after playing five matches and Pakistan is number six in the points table with only two wins after playing the same number of matches. It will be a tough fight between the two teams today.  

After back-to-back defeats, Pakistan will definitely want to bounce back in today's match. If Pakistan can't come back in this match today, they will be far away from the semi-final and if South Africa wins this match today, they will have a big chance of making the semi-final.  

Between Pakistan and South Africa, the team that wins the toss is guaranteed to bat first as it is safe to bat first on the Chennai wicket.

The pitch of MA Chidambaram Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 227 runs. However, in the previous match on this pitch, Pakistan team lost to Afghanistan even after giving a target of 283 runs. Opponent of today's match South Africa team is stronger. I would say the outcome of today's match will depend on the performance of the bowlers. Pakistan bowlers could not do well against Afghanistan. If Pakistan's bowlers don't perform well against South Africa as well then Pakistan will definitely lose and lose by a big margin. Pakistani bowlers must do well if they want to win today's match. However, today's match is likely to be competitive.
Even though Chennai's wicket was a bit of a bowling aid, I would say Pakistan didn't score enough runs in their first innings. The way the game played in 36 overs, Pakistan could have crossed the 300 mark but the batsmen's extra haste saw Pakistan's total piled on 270 runs in the end. With no wicket in hand, it was unwise for Pakistan to bat in haste at that time.  

290 to 300 runs could have been scored even if they could have stood on the wicket till 50 overs but Pakistan could not do that. The target for South Africa is 271 runs but I won't say that Pakistan bowlers are bowling very well as they have picked up four wickets in 26 overs but if you look at the current run rate it will be seen that South African batsmen are picking up 6+ runs per over. With enough wickets in hand and not too much of a target, the outcome of this match might go in South Africa's favour.

South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.

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South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.

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October 27, 2023, 05:18:33 PM
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South Africa is really performing well in this tournament.  Other than the upsetting loss against a very weaker opponent, which was Netherlands, I believe, they have performed really well against all the other teams that they have faced so far. And it is not any different against Pakistan in this match as well. Right now, South Africa needs only 28 runs in 67 balls. That should be really easy for South Africa, considering the fact that they still have six wickets in hand. They also have two set batsmen in the middle. No way south Africa is going to lose this match. And let's be honest that target was really not big enough.
What a bad luck of Pakistan they needed only one wicket. The match was really really interesting. Pakistan tried really well but unfortunately they didn't collect the last wicket of the match. I was watching the match and I really enjoyed this match. Congratulations to South Africa team. They also tried well and won the match.
Basically, Pakistan's batting is not good enough to win the match, though unfortunately they lost.  If two wickets were not given in the last over, South Africa might have put a little more pressure on the match, but at the last moment, they had to lose the match as Pakistan could not bowl well. And South Africa were under a lot of pressure today as they struggled to match Pakistan. I have also seen this match many times where South Africa played brilliantly and won the match very hard. So far played many matches South Africa lost only one match all the matches got excellent. And South Africa will probably be in the best position in this World Cup and will put up a great fight for the title.

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