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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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June 26, 2021, 10:21:44 AM
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I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name.
Sergio Ramos is still playing at the top level, he can play 2-3 years more. Does it useless? How can? You admit he has experiences and a big name, isn't it something beneficial for the team? He can share his experience with others while helping the team to have a strong defence. Also, the big name will contribute to add the income from the merchandise. It is strange if you claim spending money for him will be useless.

Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.
If the next season PSG wants to compete for the UCL title, PSG needs experienced and strong defenders. Buying younger defenders without much experience won't add anything to the team. Not every new player must be for a long run, sometimes we need to sign a proper player for a certain purpose although he isn't young anymore.


Ramos wants too much to go even as a free agent. For his age, Serie A would be the best option, but hardly anyone can satisfy his requests in Italy. It would be better for him to go to China or the USA.
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June 26, 2021, 06:14:45 PM
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Ramos wants too much to go even as a free agent. For his age, Serie A would be the best option, but hardly anyone can satisfy his requests in Italy. It would be better for him to go to China or the USA.
Let's not forget Qatar as well, they pay waaaay too much for him to play, they got so many players at their late stages because they were capable of paying insane amount of money and I would assume that they could do that with Ramos as well. Let's be honest with each other, defensive players do not worth the money as much as the other parts in the football world, I would say a good defensive team worths a ton but for some reason a great striker could get paid a ton of money while even a better defender won't, no idea why.

Look at all the transfers and see how much teams pay for a goalkeeper or a defender, then look at how much they pay for an offensive player, usually there is a staggering difference. Which is why I believe Ramos may not end up finding any team at all that would pay what he wants, but he could eventually go to the one that pays the most.

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June 26, 2021, 09:29:23 PM
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I'm not so sure about the increase in sales of club shirts.
Do you forget that you stated he has a big name?
He can be one of the favorite players in PSG, so it is probably to support the increase in club shirts, especially for his jersey.
I am sure about this, it looks very possible to happen in my view.

Last time with Madrid, at the end of the season I heard he was injured twice
It was in the last season, I didn't hear he is injured again right now. If you are a Madrid fan, you must know he rarely got injured. Every player also has the chance to get injured, why you are very afraid about this? I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.


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June 26, 2021, 10:06:02 PM
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I'm not so sure about the increase in sales of club shirts.
Do you forget that you stated he has a big name?
He can be one of the favorite players in PSG, so it is probably to support the increase in club shirts, especially for his jersey.
I am sure about this, it looks very possible to happen in my view.

Last time with Madrid, at the end of the season I heard he was injured twice
It was in the last season, I didn't hear he is injured again right now. If you are a Madrid fan, you must know he rarely got injured. Every player also has the chance to get injured, why you are very afraid about this? I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.


PSG are reportedly interested in recruiting Ramos next season, even though Ramos is 35 years old, his experience and toughness in guarding the defense has been very proven, and of course this will be very useful for PSG next season, but the problem now is his height Ramos salary request to PSG, and according to some reports if Ramos wants a salary of 12 million Euros per year and of course it makes PSG think again about signing Ramos.

actually Ramos has a long history of injury and even in the 2020/21 season Ramos has been injured 7 times and maybe this is a consideration for PSG to reject Ramos request for a high salary.


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June 27, 2021, 12:10:48 AM
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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.

I also was very surprised to see Lyon letting him go on a free transfer. Depay was one of their most valuable and important players. Maybe there was some kind of an in-team problem and he didn't want to extend his contract. Or maybe he wanted to go to a better team than Lyon. In the end, he can achieve better things at Barcelona rather than Lyon.

When it comes to Griezmann, I think that he was much better while he was playing at Atletico Madrid. I'd like to see him there again playing beside Luis Suarez. They'd be much more powerful.

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June 27, 2021, 04:23:37 AM
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Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.
Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.

I also was very surprised to see Lyon letting him go on a free transfer. Depay was one of their most valuable and important players. Maybe there was some kind of an in-team problem and he didn't want to extend his contract. Or maybe he wanted to go to a better team than Lyon. In the end, he can achieve better things at Barcelona rather than Lyon.

When it comes to Griezmann, I think that he was much better while he was playing at Atletico Madrid. I'd like to see him there again playing beside Luis Suarez. They'd be much more powerful.

There were a lot of problems between the Barcelona team this season. The team coach was new. It takes a lot of time for a coach to adjust to the players. It takes time to adapt to players with new coaches and new strategies. Koeman has solved his team's internal problems. And including players in the team needed to strengthen the team. Hopefully next season Barcelona will have a more stable performance.

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June 27, 2021, 06:19:40 AM
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He can be one of the favorite players in PSG, so it is probably to support the increase in club shirts, especially for his jersey.
I am sure about this, it looks very possible to happen in my view.

Yes, everyone's opinion is different. I respect you, but maybe we don't agree on Ramos. As for the jersey, maybe I would have bought a Neymar shirt or an mbappe shirt if I was a PSG fan. Although I know they have their own views.  Cheesy

Why you are very afraid about this? I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.


Then for injuries, maybe it will be a bit of a warning, in March, April and May he was injured and out for quite a while. I'm not worried about that, just my opinion. So you certainly know that the older you get, the less your body's endurance and strength will decrease.

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June 27, 2021, 09:06:42 AM
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The problems of Real Madrid is not from Zidane. Their squad are old and their younger players have yet matured enough to take over responsibility from Ramos, Modric, Kroos, Benzema. Zidane won't help them much if he stays in Bernabeu and he left because conflict with transfer plans from Perez.

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Ramos wants too much to go even as a free agent. For his age, Serie A would be the best option, but hardly anyone can satisfy his requests in Italy. It would be better for him to go to China or the USA.
Despite his age, he is in great shape and is a true team leader. I think that in Serie A he will not be able to adapt, this is a different football. And China or the United States is just a race for money, does it need for him? I think he already has a good financial condition. Therefore, it would be correct to spend the rest of his career in Real Madrid and continue to remain on the board of the club.

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Despite his age, he is in great shape and is a true team leader. I think that in Serie A he will not be able to adapt, this is a different football. And China or the United States is just a race for money, does it need for him? I think he already has a good financial condition. Therefore, it would be correct to spend the rest of his career in Real Madrid and continue to remain on the board of the club.
Great defender like Ramos can play in any league. In his age now, he can get troubles with Premier League but he might play very well in other leagues: Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue I, at top clubs.

Old players like Ramos need to be used appropriately. If coaches use them appropriately, they can play well. If coaches over-use them, they will not be able to have good strength and will bring bad performances.

Many legendary players in Serie A played till the end of their thirties and Ramos can do it too.

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 I think Ramos still has a good physical although he is 35 years old. You shouldn't be too worried about the injury.

In the last season I heard he was injured, it was an important game. If I'm not mistaken at UCL. For his age, he has entered a period of decreasing stamina, so if PSG still intends to buy, I think this is only for 1 season. PSG may be able to find another alternative defender. Because I think Ramos will be retiring soon. So if PSG dare to pay a lot for Ramos it's not good in my opinion. Actually I want him to stay at Madrid and retire there.
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Despite his age, he is in great shape and is a true team leader. I think that in Serie A he will not be able to adapt, this is a different football. And China or the United States is just a race for money, does it need for him? I think he already has a good financial condition. Therefore, it would be correct to spend the rest of his career in Real Madrid and continue to remain on the board of the club.
Great defender like Ramos can play in any league. In his age now, he can get troubles with Premier League but he might play very well in other leagues: Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue I, at top clubs.

Old players like Ramos need to be used appropriately. If coaches use them appropriately, they can play well. If coaches over-use them, they will not be able to have good strength and will bring bad performances.

Many legendary players in Serie A played till the end of their thirties and Ramos can do it too.
In Italy an old player like Ibrahimovic who is 39 can still play and even, from 19 games Ibrahimovic can still score 15 goals and that is something extraordinary. That way at least proves that Ramos can also play but indeed, I don't think all players of old age can play in the top leagues because a tough game will definitely make him prone to injury.

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Great defender like Ramos can play in any league. In his age now, he can get troubles with Premier League but he might play very well in other leagues: Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue I, at top clubs.

Old players like Ramos need to be used appropriately. If coaches use them appropriately, they can play well. If coaches over-use them, they will not be able to have good strength and will bring bad performances.

Many legendary players in Serie A played till the end of their thirties and Ramos can do it too.
In Italy an old player like Ibrahimovic who is 39 can still play and even, from 19 games Ibrahimovic can still score 15 goals and that is something extraordinary. That way at least proves that Ramos can also play but indeed, I don't think all players of old age can play in the top leagues because a tough game will definitely make him prone to injury.
It's still enough for Sergio Ramos to play for 2 more seasons and now he's 35 years old, he already knows but in good condition and fits in his defense I think it's still suitable in the big leagues, it's just that some coaches still doubt that they will have a different view that if you are old, you won't be able to play optimally anymore, especially as the most important defense in your team, but what is certain is that Sergio Ramos will definitely be of interest to other big European clubs.

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Great defender like Ramos can play in any league. In his age now, he can get troubles with Premier League but he might play very well in other leagues: Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue I, at top clubs.

Old players like Ramos need to be used appropriately. If coaches use them appropriately, they can play well. If coaches over-use them, they will not be able to have good strength and will bring bad performances.

Many legendary players in Serie A played till the end of their thirties and Ramos can do it too.
In Italy an old player like Ibrahimovic who is 39 can still play and even, from 19 games Ibrahimovic can still score 15 goals and that is something extraordinary. That way at least proves that Ramos can also play but indeed, I don't think all players of old age can play in the top leagues because a tough game will definitely make him prone to injury.
It's still enough for Sergio Ramos to play for 2 more seasons and now he's 35 years old, he already knows but in good condition and fits in his defense I think it's still suitable in the big leagues, it's just that some coaches still doubt that they will have a different view that if you are old, you won't be able to play optimally anymore, especially as the most important defense in your team, but what is certain is that Sergio Ramos will definitely be of interest to other big European clubs.

Sergio Ramos's fitness is still good enough. Undoubtedly, he will be able to play easily for the next 2/3 season. And he can easily adapt to any team's defense. If there is a skilled defender like him, the defense of any team will become stronger. If Real Madrid can't find a perfect replacement for Ramos next season, they will have to pay for the mistake.

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June 27, 2021, 07:03:09 PM
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In Italy an old player like Ibrahimovic who is 39 can still play and even, from 19 games Ibrahimovic can still score 15 goals and that is something extraordinary. That way at least proves that Ramos can also play but indeed, I don't think all players of old age can play in the top leagues because a tough game will definitely make him prone to injury.
Do you really think that Ramos is as good and valuable as Ibrahimovic? I mean ibra was never the very fast guy that ran pass you, he was the guy who scored in unthinkable ways and that didn't age that bad, after all he had the skill for it, maybe when he was a lot year (like 20 years ago) he could have been very agile and fast but that was never the skillset that he relied on, dude was a machine that scored no matter how he had to do it (we all still remember that goal at his nation team).

Ramos on the other hand is a defender and he needs to keep up with the ever younger strikers and attackers constantly and I am not sure if he could do that. I am not saying he can't do it, I am just saying it will be very hard, and if I owned a team in Serie A, I wouldn't really give him anything remote to what he is asking, I would prefer someone younger.
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There were a lot of problems between the Barcelona team this season. The team coach was new. It takes a lot of time for a coach to adjust to the players. It takes time to adapt to players with new coaches and new strategies. Koeman has solved his team's internal problems. And including players in the team needed to strengthen the team. Hopefully next season Barcelona will have a more stable performance.

To be honest, I really want Barcelona to be much more competitive than the last season. They had big problems in the La Liga and couldn't compete for the title until the last week. Lionel Messi tried everything he could. He scored 30 goals and made 11 assists in 35 league games. This man had the right to criticize the team for the poor performance in general. What should he have done more to save the team in the end?

I also hope that they will get better next season with making good transfers. They have already signed Aguero and Depay. They should think of the other positions also. As long as they sign the right players, I believe that they will put up a great fight for the title.

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June 28, 2021, 05:23:31 AM
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To be honest, I really want Barcelona to be much more competitive than the last season. They had big problems in the La Liga and couldn't compete for the title until the last week. Lionel Messi tried everything he could. He scored 30 goals and made 11 assists in 35 league games. This man had the right to criticize the team for the poor performance in general. What should he have done more to save the team in the end?

I also hope that they will get better next season with making good transfers. They have already signed Aguero and Depay. They should think of the other positions also. As long as they sign the right players, I believe that they will put up a great fight for the title.
Depay did not have a good Euro and it would be difficult for him to adapt to Barcelona tactics. Aguero has a bit similar style of Suarez but he has never played well with Messi in Arghentina. Connect them in the attacking spicy-food will be a challenge for Koeman. Internal problems might occur from Griezman if he stays in Camp Nou.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.

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June 28, 2021, 11:44:03 AM
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To be honest, I really want Barcelona to be much more competitive than the last season. They had big problems in the La Liga and couldn't compete for the title until the last week. Lionel Messi tried everything he could. He scored 30 goals and made 11 assists in 35 league games. This man had the right to criticize the team for the poor performance in general. What should he have done more to save the team in the end?

I also hope that they will get better next season with making good transfers. They have already signed Aguero and Depay. They should think of the other positions also. As long as they sign the right players, I believe that they will put up a great fight for the title.
Depay did not have a good Euro and it would be difficult for him to adapt to Barcelona tactics. Aguero has a bit similar style of Suarez but he has never played well with Messi in Arghentina. Connect them in the attacking spicy-food will be a challenge for Koeman. Internal problems might occur from Griezman if he stays in Camp Nou.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.
Good defenders are quite expensive and Barcelona is in financial trouble right now. It is unlikely that the team can be seriously strengthened. So I think next season we will see a weak play of both Barcelona and Real Madrid. he has the same
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June 28, 2021, 03:05:39 PM
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To be honest, I really want Barcelona to be much more competitive than the last season. They had big problems in the La Liga and couldn't compete for the title until the last week. Lionel Messi tried everything he could. He scored 30 goals and made 11 assists in 35 league games. This man had the right to criticize the team for the poor performance in general. What should he have done more to save the team in the end?

I also hope that they will get better next season with making good transfers. They have already signed Aguero and Depay. They should think of the other positions also. As long as they sign the right players, I believe that they will put up a great fight for the title.
Depay did not have a good Euro and it would be difficult for him to adapt to Barcelona tactics. Aguero has a bit similar style of Suarez but he has never played well with Messi in Arghentina. Connect them in the attacking spicy-food will be a challenge for Koeman. Internal problems might occur from Griezman if he stays in Camp Nou.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.
Good defenders are quite expensive and Barcelona is in financial trouble right now. It is unlikely that the team can be seriously strengthened. So I think next season we will see a weak play of both Barcelona and Real Madrid. he has the same

You are right. Next season we will see a weak squad from both Barcelona and Real Madrid. But they have experienced coaches. Experienced coaches can also make a weak squad strong. However, this season Barcelona has become more interested in buying strikers without buying any experienced defenders. I don't understand why Koeman is not including any experienced defender in the team. When we all know that Barcelona's defense is weak.

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~snip~.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.
You're right, aside from the problem I think Pique is getting old, it's about time they looked for a replacement alternative. After all, age will eat up his physical strength, experience will not be enough to withstand the opponent's fast attacks and fast runners. I've read that they are interested in Alessio Romagnoli from Milan, Lisandro Martinez from Ajax. But do they still have enough money to line Pique? They are said to be having a hard time with money.
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