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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.8%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 9 (7.4%)
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July 04, 2021, 11:44:27 PM
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Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.
I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.
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July 05, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
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Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.
I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

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July 05, 2021, 01:32:22 PM
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Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.
I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

I think you are right. No Barcelona fan likes Ramos. They hate Ramos. But you won't find a Real Madrid fan who doesn't like Ramos. Everyone loves and respects Ramos. Whatever Ramos does on the field, he does to protect the interests of the team.
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July 05, 2021, 03:29:13 PM
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Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.
I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

I think you are right. No Barcelona fan likes Ramos. They hate Ramos. But you won't find a Real Madrid fan who doesn't like Ramos. Everyone loves and respects Ramos. Whatever Ramos does on the field, he does to protect the interests of the team.
Who ever that doesn't like Ramos is a fan of Barca.I am not a Madrid fan,but Ramos is undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the world.He is rough,and at the same time cool,every great player has a weakness,and every great defender is always  fund of taking red cards.Ramos presence alone in a team gives hope to the fans and the team mates.True as you said that he does what he does to defend his team,yes.He is a player that puts in all his effort to make his team emerge victorious
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I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.
Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.
I think you are right. No Barcelona fan likes Ramos. They hate Ramos. But you won't find a Real Madrid fan who doesn't like Ramos. Everyone loves and respects Ramos. Whatever Ramos does on the field, he does to protect the interests of the team.
Who ever that doesn't like Ramos is a fan of Barca.I am not a Madrid fan,but Ramos is undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the world.He is rough,and at the same time cool,every great player has a weakness,and every great defender is always  fund of taking red cards.Ramos presence alone in a team gives hope to the fans and the team mates.True as you said that he does what he does to defend his team,yes.He is a player that puts in all his effort to make his team emerge victorious

There are many Barcelona fans who not only dislike Ramos but also hate Ramos, and there are enough reasons to hate this. No one else has fouled Messi so badly like Ramos. In many matches, he has deliberately fouled. Of course, he is one of the best defenders in the world but I personally dislike him for his intentional fouls.

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July 05, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.
If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.
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July 05, 2021, 05:17:53 PM
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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.
If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.

Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America

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July 05, 2021, 05:39:20 PM
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I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.
I do not care what type of player he was, I do not care if he was good on defending or tackling or anything else, as soon as a player is a dirty player then I am done with him and I do not care about anything else. He could be the best defender in the entire world but if he consistently tackles to hurt other players then he is done, he is the worst for me, there is no other argument that I require to give my note to him.

I am super glad that he won't be around anymore, it will be a better Real Madrid to watch this season even thanks to just not him being there, I rather see Real Madrid fail without him then win with him because that is how much I hate him. I am not fan of any team in la liga, my nationality is totally different so I have no winners if Barcelona or ATM wins, it is the same as Real winning, I just dislike dirty players. I had the same thing with prior Barcelona players before as well (like vidal) so it is not biased opinion.

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July 05, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.
If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.
Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America
It's also possible that they are monitoring the ongoing Euros and Copas and usually the coaches will pay attention to the players they are aiming for as their defense in their team, but I think it is important and Ancelotti definitely has a list of players he wants to sign.

Can't understand if Varane left after Ramos then who will Ancelotti rely on? whether to withdraw from his protégé, I don't think it's possible.

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July 05, 2021, 05:57:53 PM
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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.
If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.
Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America
It's also possible that they are monitoring the ongoing Euros and Copas and usually the coaches will pay attention to the players they are aiming for as their defense in their team, but I think it is important and Ancelotti definitely has a list of players he wants to sign.

Can't understand if Varane left after Ramos then who will Ancelotti rely on? whether to withdraw from his protégé, I don't think it's possible.

Yes exactly as I said, for example at the moment Italy conceded only a few goals it means there is a strong defense there
Well maybe this can be a reference for Madrid to choose which players to buy, especially defenders to replace the player who left

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July 06, 2021, 10:42:38 PM
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~snip~
It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.
If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.
Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America
It's also possible that they are monitoring the ongoing Euros and Copas and usually the coaches will pay attention to the players they are aiming for as their defense in their team, but I think it is important and Ancelotti definitely has a list of players he wants to sign.

Can't understand if Varane left after Ramos then who will Ancelotti rely on? whether to withdraw from his protégé, I don't think it's possible.

Yes exactly as I said, for example at the moment Italy conceded only a few goals it means there is a strong defense there
Well maybe this can be a reference for Madrid to choose which players to buy, especially defenders to replace the player who left
Relating the Euros to  the transfer of players and defenders, there are better players that Ancelotti can go out into the market and buy,he needs defenders that can help him contend for tittles next season,going into the market to choose a good defender is a priority for him,if he is to do well.
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July 06, 2021, 11:13:53 PM
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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.

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https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.
If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

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https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.
If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is
no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is
a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read
Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

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July 07, 2021, 11:30:01 AM
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https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.
If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is
no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is
a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read
Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Manchester Utd have been after Kounde for a long time actually. There were some rumours in the last transfer window about it also. If they don't succeed in signing Varane, this time they'd probably become serious about Kounde.

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July 07, 2021, 11:35:15 AM
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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?
Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

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July 07, 2021, 04:17:04 PM
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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?
Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.
Real Madrid spirit is to pick fresh and good players and to get ride of old ones whether they were legends or normies.. By 35, you risk to have renewable 1 year contract, if you accept terms and fail, you are out! Ramos as one of the legends of RM doesn't want to be treated like that so... For Varane, as I said earlier, he wants more money which wasn't accepted by RM staff..

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Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.
Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.

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July 07, 2021, 05:04:07 PM
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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.
now manchester united need a defender who is really tough in their back line, and in my opinion varane is the right person to fill that position and become a complete tandem for maguire in maintaining the manchester united defense next season, but according to the news, seems that real madrid is reluctant to release varane at a low price and real madrid has set a varane price of 70 million euros and Manchester united only dared to bid for varane around 50 million euros, because of the uncertainty of the transfer of varane, forcing Manchester united to look for other alternative players and it seems that manchester united is more inclined to get Jules Kunde who is a Sevilla player rather than varane later.

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July 07, 2021, 05:07:34 PM
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Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.
Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.
Yes, actually there is nothing to worry about the position left by Ramos because after all, regeneration is necessary and it is time for Madrid to find and get potential players. After all, when athletes are no longer young, at least they will also have their own way of life whether they choose to retire or continue with the risks that are always there. If Ramos chooses to continue his career because there are other teams that need him, then I think it doesn't matter either because after all, Ramos still has a healthy body because that is the most important factor.

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