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August 08, 2021, 11:33:25 AM
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I want to see his interview from tomorrow with Barcelona as that will be an emotional one and I'm really mad how Messi departs from Barcelona.

So far I did not see any official news with the transfers to PSG but I think it will be official somewhere next week and then his era to PSG will begin. I can already see the tower in argentina colors to honor the transfer of Messi.

So far I have not seen any official news of Messi going to PSG but I am watching a lot of rumors. The last rumor is that Messi is going to join PSG and PSG will give 40m wages to Messi. And the contract can be 3 years. I heard another interesting news. PSG has booked the Eiffel Tower to welcome Messi. These rumors are more likely to come true. But it's hard to believe until you see the official news.
There is a lot of speculation currently circulating about where Messi will continue his career but if we look at the size of Messi current salary, of course PSG will be able to fulfill it compared to other clubs so I am very sure that Messi will wear PSG uniform next season, Moreover , football transfer expert Fabrizio Romano has claimed that messi agreed to join PSG and reportedly messi will wear no 19 at PSG later, in his tweet Romano said that PSG were preparing an official contract until June 2023, but whether true or not the news is certainly worth waiting for and of course all decisions it could happen in the last few minutes of a football transfer.

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August 08, 2021, 12:29:15 PM
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It was so difficult and sad to watch Messi press conference. He confirmed that he wanted to stay, even offered to cut his wage by 50%. But because of La Liga rules, he couldn't stay even if he would play for free. Unbeleavable what Bertomeu did with club.
It's difficult to imagine Barca without Messi, but this club was before Messi and it will be after Messi. But in upcoming seasons we will have to reduce our ambitions a bit.

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August 08, 2021, 12:35:05 PM
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It was so difficult and sad to watch Messi press conference. He confirmed that he wanted to stay, even offered to cut his wage by 50%. But because of La Liga rules, he couldn't stay even if he would play for free. Unbeleavable what Bertomeu did with club.
It's difficult to imagine Barca without Messi, but this club was before Messi and it will be after Messi. But in upcoming seasons we will have to reduce our ambitions a bit.
I'm neither a Barcelona fan or Messi fan but it was emotional to watch him shed tears during his official press conference, he has done a lot for the club and the club has done so much for him as well. I believe the message is just to blindfold the masses he probably must have gotten tired of playing for the club, they had all the time before the incidence played out. I'm 90% sure the president of the club knew about the La Liga rules and regulations before they allowed the contract to expire. I wish him good luck in his future endeavours.
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August 08, 2021, 12:36:37 PM
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It was so difficult and sad to watch Messi press conference. He confirmed that he wanted to stay, even offered to cut his wage by 50%. But because of La Liga rules, he couldn't stay even if he would play for free. Unbeleavable what Bertomeu did with club.
It's difficult to imagine Barca without Messi, but this club was before Messi and it will be after Messi. But in upcoming seasons we will have to reduce our ambitions a bit.

It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.

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August 08, 2021, 01:04:32 PM
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It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.
We all know that one day Messi will leave Barca and retire somewhere else but no one excepted him to quit this year. The last year he was angry, he wanted to leave at any cost and continued to play although he was very sad. Now while he was happy and wanted to stay in Barca, he was forced to leave. What a weird transfer window we have this year. It is better for Barca to accommodate to play without him in the other hand. They will have hard seasons coming and probably will be less competitive and might win nothing but they have to build their team again. It is possible to see Griezmann playing better also and making the void left by Messi less noticeable.

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August 08, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
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We all know that one day Messi will leave Barca and retire somewhere else but no one excepted him to quit this year. The last year he was angry, he wanted to leave at any cost and continued to play although he was very sad. Now while he was happy and wanted to stay in Barca, he was forced to leave. What a weird transfer window we have this year. It is better for Barca to accommodate to play without him in the other hand. They will have hard seasons coming and probably will be less competitive and might win nothing but they have to build their team again. It is possible to see Griezmann playing better also and making the void left by Messi less noticeable.
The press conference is very emotional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx503iOdD3I

Messi does not have many seasons to play and he said in the conference that last year, he wanted to play but this year is very different, he wanted to stay but he can not.

If Messi only joins another club with a contract of 2 or 3 years, it does not a cost he wants to leave Barcelona. I read news that PSG only want to sign two year contract with Messi, with a clause to renew it one more year. The salary is higher than what Messi discussed with Barcelona before it was broken. But it is not higher too much.

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August 08, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
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The torment conference.
Farewell was not what we imagined, or as Messi even imagined it, but the streets will never be forgotten, or even cafes, restaurants and bars, a great archive in the history of football was titled Messi and Barcelona.
Messi accepted a 50% reduction in his salary, but this was not enough because Barcelona is financially and economically moribund, this is what Laporta tells us, and this is what Bartomeu's ill-fated administration left behind.
The League sets a ceiling that the salaries of any Spanish club do not exceed 70% of its revenues:
Barcelona with Messi's salary: it was up to 115% and Barcelona without Messi's salary: it will reach 95%, so Barcelona at the present time will have to reduce the salaries of many There are players and maybe more of them are given away, so even if Messi plays for Barcelona for free, it will not solve the club's problem.
Barcelona may wait for darker days, the economic distress will torment the club a lot, but there is certainly no torment for any Barcelona fan more severe than bidding farewell to the greatest player in the history of this club.
He lost the World Cup final, he lost the Copa America several times, he was exposed to difficult and embarrassing situations, but it was clear in the agony conference, that he was not ready for this moment, to leave Barcelona, like many of us.
This may be a moment of victory and joy for each opponent, especially for Real Madrid fans, but it is also a moment of respect for this great and hard competition all these years.
Messi not renewing his contract, after he was close to doing so, is the biggest offside in football history, and his departure from Barcelona was a decisive and killer goal against Barcelona that shook the entire world.
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August 08, 2021, 03:38:33 PM
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Quite interesting it seems. Actually I'm looking forward to the duet of Aguero and Messi. But that's only in the argentina national team it seems. I thought the arrival of Aguero could make Messi stay at Barca but it didn't. La Liga has lost its star players, they are leaving it looks like La Liga will be uninteresting. But I think this will end the dominance of barca and madrid in La Liga.

They (La Liga) lost Ronaldo before Messi, two modern football icons in La Liga Already LeaveThe La Liga, it seems true, La Liga will lose Their prestige.

Uniquely, Messi will have a duet with his opponent in La Liga, Sergio Ramos.

This is what I'm waiting for Shocked, especially if PSG meet Juventus in the Champions League later



By the way, is it official for Messi to move to PSG? I didn't find 1 valid news about this, it's just that according to Laporta reports Messi has officially joined, and also when I searched for Messi on Wikipedia, Messi has officially joined PSG.

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August 08, 2021, 03:55:02 PM
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Yes he will move: the agreement should be two years, with an option year, and a salary around 35 million net per season.
Not even the time to say goodbye, to dry his tears and greet the fans, that Lionel Messi already starts his new life in Paris. The club of the Emir of Qatar seems to have reached an agreement with the Argentine star and already tonight, as anticipated by L'Equipe, he is expected in the capital to undergo medical examinations, at the latest tomorrow morning. Then, there will be to sign the new contract with Paris Saint Germain.

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It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.
We all know that one day Messi will leave Barca and retire somewhere else but no one excepted him to quit this year. The last year he was angry, he wanted to leave at any cost and continued to play although he was very sad. Now while he was happy and wanted to stay in Barca, he was forced to leave. What a weird transfer window we have this year. It is better for Barca to accommodate to play without him in the other hand. They will have hard seasons coming and probably will be less competitive and might win nothing but they have to build their team again. It is possible to see Griezmann playing better also and making the void left by Messi less noticeable.
The coming season will be very tough for both Barcelona and Real Madrid. The road to Atletico Madrid winning the title again seems a bit easy. Real Madrid have lost their best two defenders Ramos and Varane. And Barcelona lost their best striker Messi. Although Barcelona have taken Depay and Aguero in the team. Still, I think they will feel good about the lack of Messi in the squad.

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August 08, 2021, 04:49:00 PM
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By the way, is it official for Messi to move to PSG? I didn't find 1 valid news about this, it's just that according to Laporta reports Messi has officially joined, and also when I searched for Messi on Wikipedia, Messi has officially joined PSG.
If it is on wikipedia then you know it is true. Cheesy

Just watching the Messi interview which was streamed live 6 hours ago.
It is a sad moment in history watching one of the greatest players to grace the game leaving the club which he loved so much. He  tried his best to stay there by reducing his salary by 50% which is huge amount by any standard.
He did clarify things (rumors) which were going around so it is best to come from him directly.
I also think he'll be going to PSG as well, from the points you just mentioned about wanting to surpass the 45th trophy mark and having seen Neymar his former teammate going there. Maybe he will want to rekindle this dynamic duoship once more time.

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August 08, 2021, 05:11:11 PM
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Just watching the Messi interview which was streamed live 6 hours ago.
It is a sad moment in history watching one of the greatest players to grace the game leaving the club which he loved so much. He  tried his best to stay there by reducing his salary by 50% which is huge amount by any standard.
He did clarify things (rumors) which were going around so it is best to come from him directly.
I also think he'll be going to PSG as well, from the points you just mentioned about wanting to surpass the 45th trophy mark and having seen Neymar his former teammate going there. Maybe he will want to rekindle this dynamic duoship once more time.
50% reduction on salary, that was really huge and it only takes nothing but pure love for a player to be that reasonable about his teams finance in contrast to his. Messi did his best but, it was high time he taste other shores. The PSG move is a good and bigone. His got Neymar Jnr and Angel Di Maria to unite with. Neymar and Messi became quite found of themselves back at Barcelona and had some really good trophy days,  same could be the case with this move.
It's not a very sad thing to me ts both team and player had a great trophy seasons though, its hard to accept after the 50% decrease in salary to enable him stay at the club, his still got to go.
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August 08, 2021, 06:58:15 PM
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It is rumoured that Bernardo Silva is preparing to talk to Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola. It is about a possible move to Barcelona. He actually played in many games in the last season. He got 5 goals and 9 assists in 45 games in total. But maybe he wants a change for himself and wants to play in a different league. He is still a quite young and talented player. And I assume that Barcelona would also like to have a qualified player like Silva.

But the problem is that his market value is €70m. And we know that Barcelona are in a financial trouble now. So, I'm not sure about a transfer like this.

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August 08, 2021, 08:11:45 PM
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It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.
Yeah, it is a very weird feeling to know that Messi is departing from Barcelona, we are so used to seeing him in the calatanion teams jersey that seeing him in PSG will feel very weird, seeing him in any other jersey is weird I am still not used to see him at Argentina which is his national it tbf and now we will see him at a different club. Even with this, if you check the votes you will realize that people think there is a bigger chance Barcelona will become champions over others. I agree that this was a good decision by the club, yes it is a sad thing to see but now they can actually do a lot more stuff with a lot bigger wiggle room without that huuuge salary to pay, they can get a lot more players and finally pay off their debts.

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August 08, 2021, 08:21:53 PM
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It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.
Yeah, it is a very weird feeling to know that Messi is departing from Barcelona, we are so used to seeing him in the calatanion teams jersey that seeing him in PSG will feel very weird, seeing him in any other jersey is weird I am still not used to see him at Argentina which is his national it tbf and now we will see him at a different club. Even with this, if you check the votes you will realize that people think there is a bigger chance Barcelona will become champions over others. I agree that this was a good decision by the club, yes it is a sad thing to see but now they can actually do a lot more stuff with a lot bigger wiggle room without that huuuge salary to pay, they can get a lot more players and finally pay off their debts.
I think change is the only constant thing. This is going to be the first time in his precessional football carrier to plays for another club. it's his opportunity to explore knowing fully well his football carrier is gradually deteriorating. I wish him well in his new club. PSG will as well have more fans just for Messi's sake.
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August 08, 2021, 08:36:40 PM
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It is rumoured that Bernardo Silva is preparing to talk to Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola. It is about a possible move to Barcelona.
Bernardo Silva could easily fit in well in that Barcelona team because  their play style fits him well but I also read some rumors of Bernardo being wanted by a rival team in the Premier League, should be Chelsea or something I really recall which team. Is Manchester City going to release all its most prized players so easily, I don't think so.
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He actually played in many games in the last season. He got 5 goals and 9 assists in 45 games in total. But maybe he wants a change for himself and wants to play in a different league. He is still a quite young and talented player. And I assume that Barcelona would also like to have a qualified player like Silva.
Just how old is Bernardo Silva, if he is around 25 or so then he still has a lot to offer but should he be above 27 am afraid he only has a few more seasons to go
But the problem is that his market value is €70m. And we know that Barcelona are in a financial trouble now. So, I'm not sure about a transfer like this.
With what happened with Messi players would be discouraged to move to Spain because of this very reason.

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August 08, 2021, 08:41:55 PM
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It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.
Yeah, it is a very weird feeling to know that Messi is departing from Barcelona, we are so used to seeing him in the calatanion teams jersey that seeing him in PSG will feel very weird, seeing him in any other jersey is weird I am still not used to see him at Argentina which is his national it tbf and now we will see him at a different club. Even with this, if you check the votes you will realize that people think there is a bigger chance Barcelona will become champions over others. I agree that this was a good decision by the club, yes it is a sad thing to see but now they can actually do a lot more stuff with a lot bigger wiggle room without that huuuge salary to pay, they can get a lot more players and finally pay off their debts.
I think change is the only constant thing. This is going to be the first time in his precessional football carrier to plays for another club. it's his opportunity to explore knowing fully well his football carrier is gradually deteriorating. I wish him well in his new club. PSG will as well have more fans just for Messi's sake.

I watched the farewell, and when messi went up to the podium he was silent for a few minutes unable to speak this indicates that this is not entirely his wish
Btw has it been confirmed that PSG is Messi's new club? in the last few days PSG have indeed been linked with messi but I haven't seen any official confirmation

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August 08, 2021, 09:16:19 PM
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It is very difficult to see the separation of Messi and Barcelona. Barcelona fans never thought that Barcelona would play without Messi and Messi would play in another team's jersey. Everyone thought that Messi would stay in Barcelona till the end of his career. But now Messi has to leave the club due to the rules of La Liga. Many people said Messi was leaving Barcelona for money. But Messi is not leaving Barcelona for money, he loves this club. And he promised he would come back to Camp Nou again.
Yeah, it is a very weird feeling to know that Messi is departing from Barcelona, we are so used to seeing him in the calatanion teams jersey that seeing him in PSG will feel very weird, seeing him in any other jersey is weird I am still not used to see him at Argentina which is his national it tbf and now we will see him at a different club. Even with this, if you check the votes you will realize that people think there is a bigger chance Barcelona will become champions over others. I agree that this was a good decision by the club, yes it is a sad thing to see but now they can actually do a lot more stuff with a lot bigger wiggle room without that huuuge salary to pay, they can get a lot more players and finally pay off their debts.

I can only emphasize that it has both good sides. If he stayed it would have been cool in a certain way, but at the same time I would love to see him in another jersey and see him prove he can dominate in any league. So many people say that he can only dominate in Spain, but seriously, this guy was top scorer in the CL four years in a row, playing against the best of the best. He could have dominated any league, and he most likely is still able to do it for two years.

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August 08, 2021, 11:04:31 PM
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I can only emphasize that it has both good sides. If he stayed it would have been cool in a certain way, but at the same time I would love to see him in another jersey and see him prove he can dominate in any league. So many people say that he can only dominate in Spain, but seriously, this guy was top scorer in the CL four years in a row, playing against the best of the best. He could have dominated any league, and he most likely is still able to do it for two years.
Yes, I would also like to see Messi play in another championship and moving to the French league is quite the right decision, because Paris Saint-Germain with such a squad is easier to dominate in their league than if Messi moved to England, where the level of competition is higher. Therefore, the adaptation of Messi should be much easier and faster. The most important thing is that Messi does not get bored then ahead of time, as happened with Neymar  Grin Barcelona will face difficult times in the coming seasons, but I was in no hurry to discount the Catalan team. There should be enough resources and forces to fight in Spain  Wink
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August 08, 2021, 11:12:25 PM
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I can only emphasize that it has both good sides. If he stayed it would have been cool in a certain way, but at the same time I would love to see him in another jersey and see him prove he can dominate in any league. So many people say that he can only dominate in Spain, but seriously, this guy was top scorer in the CL four years in a row, playing against the best of the best. He could have dominated any league, and he most likely is still able to do it for two years.
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Yes what? Why are you writing only one word and post then go and edit your posts? You do this for a couple of weeks. If you don't finish your post you can use preview option and save it to your draft.

La Liga will be different without Messi for sure but maybe we can see it in a good way, some players have opportunity to show themselves because there won't be a point of main interest without Messi. We can see better performances from Puig, Pedri or Fati. I accept that this is a wishful thinking though.
I see Atletico as favorite again but I also expect championship race to run until last week. We can watch very similar season again. I don't think Real and Barca as favorites like old times. Hopefully we can watch more exciting La Liga even though the biggest players are already gone.

R


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