[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[jtoomim]

I am at an undisclosed location here in Europe and the best price on energy I can get is 0.1093 €/kWh ~ 0.1458 $/kWh exclusive VAT (and we have 20% VAT here, which I may or may not be able to omit, depending if I can let the company pay for and operate my mining endeavor).

And NO, I'm not in the least interested in any cloud or data center mining offer!

Mining margins are going to be getting much thinner as time wears on. Only those with the cheapest (and hopefully also cleanest) electricity running the most efficient hardware will be able to make a profit. That's when people will stop adding to the network hashrate, and the so-far inexorable push of the difficulty will finally meet its end. There are places in the world that pay 1/7th of what you do for electricity. I'm in one of them.

If you insist on mining at home, then you have three options, as far as I can see it. you can either

1) Move somewhere with cheaper electricity,
2) Mine at a loss, or
3) Stop mining.

[jtoomim]

The noise is killing my roommate in the basement as well , I think ill work on getting it shipped to you, how much will it cost to ship from Minneapolis.

$52 UPS Ground, $132 3-Day Select, etc. 18 kg. Contact orders@toom.im if you want a shipping address.

The PSUs are also much louder on 120V than on 200+V. Lower efficiency means more heat, which means faster fans. You could also reduce the noise by putting them on a 240V line.

[Guy Corem]

... my August non-hosted GB order hasn't shipped yet ...

Please email sales@ with your order# and we'll check the status

[jtoomim]

he (wis-sam) seems to be a potential difficult/demanding customer
with so many machines you never know-someone with 300 Sp-10 defaulted at digital fortress, but it is just an example.

Toom.im requires customers to pay for hosting in advance. If they don't pay on time (and we don't grant them an exception), then the machines stop hashing, and we sell the capacity to someone else. If they want their machines back, then the customer pays return shipping costs to the shipping company. No handling charges. Customers never owe us a debt, and therefore can't default. It's simpler this way.

I'm curious about this 300 SP10 default. Link?

[Marvell1]

Is it ok to turn fans down from 80% to like 60%

That depends on the intake air temperature. The chips should throttle before any damage can be done though.
I think much of the noise comes from the PSU fans, but I might be mistaken.

True. Try 70 and see on asic stats page. If asics or dc2dc get too hot return to 80. The problem is I dont remember what is too hot for dc2dc, but under 100c is definietly not too hot.

Thanks for the tip

I tried 60, the miner seems slighty louder and temps are around 86 85
also increased the voltage from .76 to .79 to see if I could get more hash rate , seems to be stable at 4050 TH

Also noticed a new firmware build , what is in it and should I update the miner ?

Edit
@Zvisha is there any way I could up the max wattage setting to at least 1200 or so ?

[Marvell1]

The noise is killing my roommate in the basement as well , I think ill work on getting it shipped to you, how much will it cost to ship from Minneapolis.

$52 UPS Ground, $132 3-Day Select, etc. 18 kg. Contact orders@toom.im if you want a shipping address.

The PSUs are also much louder on 120V than on 200+V. Lower efficiency means more heat, which means faster fans. You could also reduce the noise by putting them on a 240V line.

how much would you need for the hosting up front ?

[wh00per]

Roadstress, stop selling your BTC the price is dropping and everything is your fault LOL

[wissam]

Now read everything again.

If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

[ZiG]

I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners...

Are you kidding...

ZiG

[wh00per]

Now read everything again.

If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners...

Are you kidding...

ZiG

Yes, for bitcoin miners..

Some companies offered warranty if units break down or not performing as expected within limited period after delivery.
They promised replacement or compensation...

[Bicknellski]

I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners...

Are you kidding...

ZiG

Yes, for bitcoin miners..

Some companies offered warranty if units break down or not performing as expected within limited period after delivery.
They promised replacement or compensation...

How many have delivered as promised on that replacement and compensation?

Not so much about the "offers" but the "delivery" on that "promise".

[wh00per]

I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners...

Are you kidding...

ZiG

Nope .. no kidding. SP-T said they will service the miners if they don't start up or have PSU issues while they stabilize, and Zvi is  helping everyone with problems as far as I know. Some power supplies were replaced already. What would you want more?

[wissam]

Now read everything again.

If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

There is nothing unfair about this it all breaks down to who paid for the miners first, we are all waiting to receive our units regardless of the screw up.

[ZiG]

I forgot what kind of warranty was for SP30s if any?

Warranty...fot Bitcoin miners...

Are you kidding...

ZiG

Nope .. no kidding. SP-T said they will service the miners if they don't start up or have PSU issues while they stabilize, and Zvi is  helping everyone with problems as far as I know. Some power supplies were replaced already. What would you want more?

Super... for SP and their customers... SP is again standing out ...as BTC mining gear supplier ... Congratulations...

They are the only one ...exemption to validate the rule...Capisco...

Cheers ...and good luck mining,

ZiG

[wh00per]

Now read everything again.

If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

There is nothing unfair about this it all breaks down to who paid for the miners first, we are all waiting to receive our units regardless of the screw up.

Yeah, absolutely nothing unfair. For a guy with a big mouth ordering 20 units, being compensated 45% (9 SP30) with SEPTEMBER units (1st batch), while August buyers with units delivered are being given SP31 vouchers for units shipping in October with only 21% coverage. What worries me is that you still complain about your "potential" losses. For guys like you, there's medication (Benzodiazepine derivatives) which might help with your anxiety issues.
Buy one of these:

Now read everything again.

[edgar]

is there a thread that discusses FW upgrades?

[wissam]

Now read everything again.

If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

SP will not refund in Cash, they will refund in Vouchers which to me is useless because I won't want to put money back in mining in the future if this is the same situation I'm going to fine myself in worrying about not reaching ROI. So instead of getting vouchers the added 9 SP30s are there to start mining NOW and not in the future because the future of mining is an uncertain thing, especially when the difficulty keeps going up and the rate keeps going down. So basically the decision was to try and get to ROI and moving to Toom.im hosting was a MUST otherwise I will lose even more.

This is so unfair for the rest of the people who ordered miners here, you better didn't mention it. Now looking at the compensation, the bank info is not for vouchers isn't it?

There is nothing unfair about this it all breaks down to who paid for the miners first, we are all waiting to receive our units regardless of the screw up.

Yeah, absolutely nothing unfair. For a guy with a big mouth ordering 20 units, being compensated 45% (9 SP30) with SEPTEMBER units (1st batch), while August buyers with units delivered are being given SP31 vouchers for units shipping in October with only 21% coverage. What worries me is that you still complain about your "potential" losses. For guys like you, there's medication (Benzodiazepine derivatives) which might help with your anxiety issues.
Buy one of these: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStXb9w3PEzhbCbhKaVMM2PCFbtwfE5n_hjCv89vpVfxe_rxfiKtA

Now read everything again.

I'm just going to leave you to argue with yourself, no point wasting my time on you. The last thing I will leave you with is this: Don't compare customers to each other, the fact is that we are in this situation because of SP didn't deliver on their promise of 6TH at 2500W and that's as simple as that. I have nothing against any other person here I am simply voicing my opinion and experience i've had so far. While some people may have had it worst it doesn't mean I am not entitled to say my thoughts, they are free to complain too if they want.

[jtoomim]

Edit
@Zvisha is there any way I could up the max wattage setting to at least 1200 or so ?

1200W will make your PSUs go into thermal overload. When I was using 120V, the best I could get in a cold room was around 1170. I wasn't able to maintain that on both PSUs, though, and not for more than a few hours. The best I could get in a warm room sustained was around 1120.

how much would you need for the hosting up front ?

http://toom.im/faq#orders

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Q: How does pricing work? 
We charge by the kilowatt-month (kW·mo) for expected power usage; all other fees are included in that flat rate. To host an SP30 you'd need to pay

- For 1 month of hosting: $297 up front (99 $/kW/mo)
- For 3 months of hosting: $837 up front (93 $/kW/mo)
- For 6 months of hosting: $1548 up front (86 $/kW/mo)
- For 12 months of hosting: $2880 up front (80 $/kW/mo)
- Shipping costs and delays: Customer's responsibility.
- Payments via Paypal and Credit Card: Add 3%; via BTC or check: free.