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September 19, 2014, 03:28:59 PM
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Hi Guy,

Could you, please let Barbara know that I'm waiting for her response about the order number #2666.
The weekend's almost up and I don't want to wait until Monday for the banks to start processing their transactions again.

Cheers,
P
It's the weekend in Israel.

Eh ok thanks, I thought you still work on Fridays like some of us do here, on Saturdays.
Well then I just have to wait until Monday then.

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Not only is it a day of rest, but Walter Sobchak doesn't roll on Shabbos.

but he helps The Dude in emergency, but it has to be a "f... emergency, man"
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September 19, 2014, 03:30:20 PM
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AFAIK, first independent RB design: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=706302.msg8231938#msg8231938

I like it.

+1.01... Grin

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September 19, 2014, 04:32:22 PM
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2) Do you do dynamic voltage/freq scaling based on wattage/temperature limitations? Then did you notice that the "BIST" in ASIC fails at lower frequencies then real jobs because of power drop at beginning of job - it might get you few more GH.
One more argument for the Bitcoin ASIC designers that building a dedicated on-chip testing functionality is a waste of resources. Perhaps BISC (Built-In Self-Calibration) would be a productive use of silicon?

Please comment, critique, criticize or ridicule BIP 2112: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54382.0
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September 19, 2014, 05:28:39 PM
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Looks very nice!
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September 19, 2014, 05:56:05 PM
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Dear Bobsag,
As an American Company you are legally bound to comply with the FTC's rules. In case you are unfamiliar with these rules and have ignored my previous emails I have taken the liberty of providing you with a quote from the FTC and a link to the source.

http://www.business.…lephone-order-merchandise-rule

"If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise."

Send me a refund.
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September 19, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
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Can someone else who is having the SP30 hosted at Spond tell me if they have remote access to their machine?
I was always under the impression I would be able to make my own changes to pool info etc, but alas it appears that I have to use email and ask Spond techies to do it (when they can/have time/feel like it). Not the most ideal situation IMHO.

neX:)
If the customer insists, we're giving VPN and VLAN access to his/her machines. We don't monitor the machines afterwards.
Configuring remote access is an hassle for us and we try to avoid it. We don't simply do NAT forwarding, to protect other customers machines in case of unknown security breach in the firmware (eg heartbleed which we had and solved)

It's not an ideal solution.
We lack the resources to solve it in a better way (for example, cloud mirroring of the machines UI)

Guy

Fair enough, thanks for explaining it a bit more Guy.
I have to say im impressed with how quickly ive had responses to my couple of issues in the last 24hrs.

Thanks for the quick, straight-up response.

neX:)
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Last edit: September 19, 2014, 11:48:30 PM by wh00per
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Dear Bobsag,
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Send me a refund.

Who are you? When and where did you learn to post links? Why in the SPT thread?

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September 20, 2014, 12:21:06 AM
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Cointerra takes pre-orders for 4.5 TH/s AIRE Miner and it's sucking up only 1350 watts???
How's that possible Shocked

http://cointerra.com/product/aire-miner-bitcoin-miner/

I bet S-T will come up with something better than this
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September 20, 2014, 12:22:04 AM
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Always pleasure to have another AM devotee in our little thread.

I must say, compare to his horde of zealots, FC in person is a great guy.

Usually, I would have asked abour dividends, but since AM gen4 is around the corner, it saves me the trouble.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage

Beside, Athens is great and I have good mood.

Guy


What was the point of that little rant of yours? It is a fact that you can buy 3 AM Tubes + PSUs for less than you can buy an SP20 + PSU for. That's why you didn't even bother trying to deny it. You just rant about AM zealots coming here which is even funnier considering that you were actually trolling the AM thread yourself, have spouted lots of misleading nonsense over there and an actual zealot - RoadStress is still there making up crap and pretending its facts.

Talk about hypocrisy.

Instead of trying to create diversions, why not respond to the actual issue - the price of SP20 being far to high. If you don't like that fact, you actually have the ability to do something about it.

Spon-Tech is in sales mode. Trying to sell, sell, sell. Now that bitcoin is in the $300's and still dropping the prices even look higher. Plain and simple, there's no chance retail prices will ever get your mulaa back. Just buy some bitcoin if you believe it will come back up. What will take you a few minutes in buying some bitcoins will take you over year in mining the same amount. Why torture yourself?

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September 20, 2014, 12:29:36 AM
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Because it's a major discussion in the S3 Thread:

Is Spondoolies-Tech using the latest version of cgminer (v4.6.0) in all their products?

We pull latest cgminer from github every time we build.
Spondoolies is the ONLY company remaining that is in sync with the mainline cgminer code and always push upstream any driver changes.

Only on their current/new hardware. My SP10 has an old 4.4.1 version still and that's the latest firmware. So that statement isn't entirely true. It runs just fine, I just thought that comment was a little off.



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September 20, 2014, 01:03:12 AM
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Because it's a major discussion in the S3 Thread:

Is Spondoolies-Tech using the latest version of cgminer (v4.6.0) in all their products?

We pull latest cgminer from github every time we build.
Spondoolies is the ONLY company remaining that is in sync with the mainline cgminer code and always push upstream any driver changes.

Only on their current/new hardware. My SP10 has an old 4.4.1 version still and that's the latest firmware. So that statement isn't entirely true. It runs just fine, I just thought that comment was a little off.

ckolivas' quote still holds - the latest Hammer ASIC (i.e. SP10) driver changes are in cgminer.

The SP10 doesn't need the latest version of cgminer unless there are security vulnerabilities that need fixing. (Are there some?)

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September 20, 2014, 01:08:11 AM
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Please be aware that the October Batch SP31 is nearly sold out and we may not be able to accept an order for that machine. We invite you to consider the 'November' SP35 or the 'October' SP20

October Yukons already Sold Out...

November (SP35) estimated shipping date...

SP20...
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September 20, 2014, 04:23:45 AM
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Please be aware that the October Batch SP31 is nearly sold out and we may not be able to accept an order for that machine. We invite you to consider the 'November' SP35 or the 'October' SP20

October Yukons already Sold Out...

November (SP35) estimated shipping date...

SP20...

Are you working for SP-Tech... Huh

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September 20, 2014, 04:42:34 AM
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Can someone else who is having the SP30 hosted at Spond tell me if they have remote access to their machine?
I was always under the impression I would be able to make my own changes to pool info etc, but alas it appears that I have to use email and ask Spond techies to do it (when they can/have time/feel like it). Not the most ideal situation IMHO.

neX:)
If the customer insists, we're giving VPN and VLAN access to his/her machines. We don't monitor the machines afterwards.
Configuring remote access is an hassle for us and we try to avoid it. We don't simply do NAT forwarding, to protect other customers machines in case of unknown security breach in the firmware (eg heartbleed which we had and solved)

It's not an ideal solution.
We lack the resources to solve it in a better way (for example, cloud mirroring of the machines UI)

Guy

Spondoolies tech solved heartbleed? wow I'm impressed. Thank you for securing all ecommerce. Did the ssl developers thank you?

How is that Lexical analysis working out bickneleski?
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September 20, 2014, 05:32:01 AM
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My cellar project, a long time in the making, is finally complete now.

I can finally say: This facility is now fully operational.

Here's the video: 2x Spondoolies-Tech SP30 Yukon miners operating inside a quiet rack cabinet

Note 1:
I don't recommend running more than one SP30 in this quiet rack cabinet... the cabinet fans can't exhaust the heat quick enough, and the SP30s are thermally limited.
The cabinet can handle one SP30 plus one CoinCraft Desk 1TH/s unit - so a total of about 4kW, both units running at maximum hashrate. It may be able to handle a bit more heat, but I haven't tested that.

With two SP30s at just under 6kW the heat buildup inside means that the SP30s limit themselves thermally. If I run each SP30 by itself I get the full 4.5 TH/s. Together, I get around 8.2 TH/s, which means each machine is limiting itself by about 400 GH/s.
I haven't got any ideas at this stage on how to fix this, so I have accepted it. The SP30s still give the same excellent efficiency, the lower hashrate also equates to a lower power draw.

It is difficult to run these server-grade units at home. When I look at the perfect thermal environment that the Toomim Bros have created for their bitcoin miners, I have to take my hat off and admit: sometimes it's best to leave it to the pros.

Note 2:
Why did I buy this cabinet if it thermally limits miners?
The answer is that I started my cellar project earlier this year. The cabinet took about 3 months to get shipped from the UK. I purchased it before Spondoolies-Tech announced themselves to the bitcoin mining scene. Previous bitcoin mining equipment was much less dense in terms of kW per RU (rack unit), and so at the time the cabinet made sense.
I would recommend this cabinet for regular server gear, it does an amazing job of cutting out the noise.
I don't recommend it for bitcoin mining, it is not designed for the heat load. (Unless you only plan to run about 4kW of gear).

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September 20, 2014, 06:32:57 AM
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Can someone else who is having the SP30 hosted at Spond tell me if they have remote access to their machine?
I was always under the impression I would be able to make my own changes to pool info etc, but alas it appears that I have to use email and ask Spond techies to do it (when they can/have time/feel like it). Not the most ideal situation IMHO.

neX:)
If the customer insists, we're giving VPN and VLAN access to his/her machines. We don't monitor the machines afterwards.
Configuring remote access is an hassle for us and we try to avoid it. We don't simply do NAT forwarding, to protect other customers machines in case of unknown security breach in the firmware (eg heartbleed which we had and solved)

It's not an ideal solution.
We lack the resources to solve it in a better way (for example, cloud mirroring of the machines UI)

Guy

Spondoolies tech solved heartbleed? wow I'm impressed. Thank you for securing all ecommerce. Did the ssl developers thank you?
Probably not worth a reply, but nevertheless.
Our firmware had the heartbleed bug, due to the use of OpenSSL. I gave an example why we decided early on not to give access not through separates VLANs, in order to prevent rogue miner from taking control of the entire DC.
Change "solved" to "patched".

Happy trolling,
Guy

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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September 20, 2014, 06:37:26 AM
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I've noticed a pattern, you do your catch up (and venting) usually during the weekend.

You avoid reading the forum during the week?

Guy

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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September 20, 2014, 08:58:27 AM
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Hello All,

For those ones who have SP30 hosted on datacenters what is the temperature you are getting on the back? Did anyone got any issues with the rooms with so much hot air?
Did you faced any issues with air flow/temperature when the back door of the rack/cabinet is closed?

These are my current values:
Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C
Socket Voltage
229/227 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1340

thx
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September 20, 2014, 11:21:55 AM
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Hello All,

For those ones who have SP30 hosted on datacenters what is the temperature you are getting on the back? Did anyone got any issues with the rooms with so much hot air?
Did you faced any issues with air flow/temperature when the back door of the rack/cabinet is closed?

These are my current values:
Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C
Socket Voltage
229/227 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1340

thx


No issues to state of. Cabinets open at the back.

Temp Front / Back T,B
23 °C / 72,73 °C
Socket Voltage
210/211 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1335

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September 20, 2014, 11:36:49 AM
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Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C

70 degrees C is a good Back temperature, but the 46 one is strange. Is your bottom PCB working ok?

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