Coronavirus Outbreak

[tvbcof]

I have been seeing reports of throwing "pets" out of high story windows, for fear they are carrying the virus, for a while before any suggestions that the CCP recommended such a practice..

Probably raises a person's 'social credit score'.

[Mometaskers]

First death outside of China just reported in the Philippines. It's a Chinese man in his 40s. Countries that didn't closed up immediately like the Philippines would likely see a surge in the coming weeks. I saw a video shared in social media of a "Chinese-looking" man who fainted on a street in Manila, if that guy's really infected, just imagine how many he has already spread the virus to...

I have been seeing reports of throwing "pets" out of high story windows, for fear they are carrying the virus, for a while before any suggestions that the CCP recommended such a practice..

Probably raises a person's 'social credit score'.

I does. Shows you are either very obedient or easily influenced, traits the commie government value.

[UserU]

I saw a video shared in social media of a "Chinese-looking" man who fainted on a street in Manila, if that guy's really infected, just imagine how many he has already spread the virus to...

Definitely more than a handful. It's terrifying that the eyes are also a medium of infection.

[tvbcof]

First death outside of China just reported in the Philippines. It's a Chinese man in his 40s. Countries that didn't closed up immediately like the Philippines would likely see a surge in the coming weeks. I saw a video shared in social media of a "Chinese-looking" man who fainted on a street in Manila, if that guy's really infected, just imagine how many he has already spread the virus to...

I didn't see that The Philippines treated things much different than any other country.  Probably they were even more restrictive than most.

I will say that the 'social media' content which bombards the people here in The Philippines (and unfortunately _not_ against their will) is of the most idiotic type.  Full of totally anti-scientific bullshit, flat out lies, dramatic quasi-music, and advertisements.  It's all about 'grabbing eyeballs' here and I dare say that itself will be the death of scads of people over time.  I doubt with this event but rather with a bunch of others.  Whether it's the West or the East who ends up in control of the country they are all going to want more minerals, cheaper pineapples, and fewer Filipinos.  I really feel sad that the peeps on the ground are simply not gaining the skills necessary to protect themselves in a world full of predators.

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On the coronavirus thing, it seems that the vaccine engineering may suffer from a problem of the same basic type as did dengvaxia.  That is, getting the vaccine may make individuals extra sensitive to exposures to other slightly different strains.  Basically the body has an even stronger reaction to a similar strain after having battled the vaccine strain.  The idea that the vaccine designers didn't recognize this with dengaxia is pretty much beyond belief even if they are not exactly the most competent of scientists.  I'm not to surprised they tried it out on Filipinos anyway since there is very little protection of the peeps on the ground and a long history of interest in controlling population in the country.  The only silver lining is that people are a little more suspicious when the needles come out (which is very common for 'vitamin shots' at public schools and such) and the effect has not totally worn of yet.

Some are hinting that it may be interesting to know if Chinese in Wuhan (and other areas) may have been receiving 'experimental' vaccines against some strain of coronavirus and are looking to see if the mortality rates between native Chinese subject to Beijing's medical dictates and people in other geographic areas are roughly similar or not.  I'll be monitoring it with interest myself for a couple of reasons.

[TwitchySeal]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

This article is unsurprisingly a bunch of rubbish. The quoted studies in the article say nothing about "HIV insertions", rather that it contained protein structures similar to those found in HIV. While an uncommon occurrence in nature, in no way does it mean HIV proteins had been "spliced" into the virus. Have you looked at the story recently? They have included this tweet and are doing some backtracking, probably after having been called out repeatedly for being full of shit:

These short inserts do indeed exist in #nCoV2019 relative to its closest sequenced relative (BetaCoV/bat/Yunnan/RaTG13/2013, seen here https://nextstrain.org/groups/blab/sars-like-cov). However, a simple BLAST of such short sequences shows match to a huge variety of organisms. No reason to conclude HIV.

The key word here is pets. This is pretty excessive, useless, and authoritarian exercise. Perhaps they should kill all the sparrows while they are at it too... This is a base example of trauma based mind control. Kill your pet or go to prison. You are damned if you do you are damned if you don't. If you do then you chose complicity in your mind, and it will be harder to sway you from that which you made such a sacrifice for. If you don't they lock you up and probably kill your pet anyway.

And this is you misinterpreting what the article you posted says. It doesn't say anybody will go to prison. It says provincial villagers are being ordered to cull their pets in some places, and keep them indoors in others, at the risk of them being culled by the police or officials if they are found outdoors. Its not "trauma based mind control" so much as local officials being pressured to implement solutions even at the risk of them being poor or ineffective. Its an unfortunate byproduct of panic and nothing more.

Finance blog Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for Wuhan coronavirus misinformation.

[YaoMin]

Do you agree,guys that Coronavirus impacts Bitcoin growth like this guy on the video says ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz4jUk0BhaM

[fratoshi]

One person infect 2 - 3 more
And number of infected doubles in 6.4 days

I think this is more serious than what governments around the world says,
We are heading to a pandemic

[TECSHARE]

Finance blog Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for Wuhan coronavirus misinformation.

Censorship is always the solution right? All we need to do is keep the people who don't agree with us from speaking, and everything will be fine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiHFVSQzrlQ

[tvbcof]

Finance blog Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for Wuhan coronavirus misinformation.

Being banned from twitter is an event which elevates an entities credibility quite a lot.  It often gets said entity a spot on my 'daily rounds' visits when looking for news.

I used to scan ZH regularly maybe 3 or 4 years ago.  Maybe more.  Don't remember.  I didn't stop for any particular reason other than that there is better stuff out there and habits change.  Rarely (but not never) did I feel that they were deliberately mis-unforming, and I never really considered the 'pro-Trump' in a big way; more anti-douchbags who happened to have some bizarre hatred of the guy (for everything except what Trump is actually weak on.)  ZH didn't seem to be excessively beholden to certain (((chosen people))) and their multitude of pet projects.  Maybe things have changed in my time away.  I'll put them back on my to-scan list and see.

Twitter's actions did get ZH's Dr. Zhou story _widely_ read.  Maybe that was the point?

[tvbcof]

Finance blog Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for Wuhan coronavirus misinformation.

Censorship is always the solution right? All we need to do is keep the people who don't agree with us from speaking, and everything will be fine!

Nobody's saying that but you. The fact is ZeroHedge has been manufacturing garbage content for quite some time now. This is common knowledge to everyone except people who have a warped sense of reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiHFVSQzrlQ

I can't stand Tim Incel's voice. He pretends that everything is such an earth-shattering outrage when really he is just baking spam-flavored cheetos for other far right conspiratards who also can't get laid. Like ZeroHedge, he manufacturers empty calorie junk food for easily inflamed intellectual cowards.

Oh no, one of the worst fake news sites got kicked off Twitter, let's all sit around and cry about how we're being oppressed. Oh, the tyranny!

I didn't see anything 'fake' in ZH's Dr. Zhou story, and indeed, most of what they say in most of their stories basically checks out when I bothered to research it.  Actual examples are welcome.  Surely there is someone cataloging ZH's most egregious fabrications considering that they are 'one of the worst' and influencial enough to matter.  Just point me to a link.

With respect to the Dr. Zhou story, I kind of appreciated specific documented information about who was interested in what (quite relevant) scientific endeavors in bioengineeringland.  It seems almost certain at this point that if 'we' are ever going to get to the bottom of 2019-nCoV, 'we' are going to have to at least consider who is doing what on the bio-engineering front.

The reaction that any and all 'mainstream journalist' have at even a suggestion that the ailment was caused by anything other than bat-eating Chinese tells me that a tiny group of someones are very very interested in diverting attention.  Call it 'conspiracy theory' or whatever you like.  Time and time it has proven a valuable logic tool to arrive at an accurate representation of the world for me.  Very often the plurality catches up in a few years and what was previously a 'conspiracy theory' mutates into an obvious and unchallenged reality.

[Railai]

The last WHO report!

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200202-sitrep-13-ncov-v3.pdf?sfvrsn=195f4010_4

It is going too dangerous at this point, and speaking about other corona viruses (SARS) enjoy this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOg7mj1_-sk

[TwitchySeal]

Finance blog Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for Wuhan coronavirus misinformation.

Censorship is always the solution right? All we need to do is keep the people who don't agree with us from speaking, and everything will be fine!

Nobody's saying that but you. The fact is ZeroHedge has been manufacturing garbage content for quite some time now. This is common knowledge to everyone except people who have a warped sense of reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiHFVSQzrlQ

I can't stand Tim Incel's voice. He pretends that everything is such an earth-shattering outrage when really he is just baking spam-flavored cheetos for other far right conspiratards who also can't get laid. Like ZeroHedge, he manufacturers empty calorie junk food for easily inflamed intellectual cowards.

Oh no, one of the worst fake news sites got kicked off Twitter, let's all sit around and cry about how we're being oppressed. Oh, the tyranny!

I didn't see anything 'fake' in ZH's Dr. Zhou story, and indeed, most of what they say in most of their stories basically checks out when I bothered to research it.  Actual examples are welcome.  Surely there is someone cataloging ZH's most egregious fabrications considering that they are 'one of the worst' and influencial enough to matter.  Just point me to a link.

With respect to the Dr. Zhou story, I kind of appreciated specific documented information about who was interested in what (quite relevant) scientific endeavors in bioengineeringland.  It seems almost certain at this point that if 'we' are ever going to get to the bottom of 2019-nCoV, 'we' are going to have to at least consider who is doing what on the bio-engineering front.

The reaction that any and all 'mainstream journalist' have at even a suggestion that the ailment was caused by anything other than bat-eating Chinese tells me that a tiny group of someones are very very interested in diverting attention.  Call it 'conspiracy theory' or whatever you like.  Time and time it has proven a valuable logic tool to arrive at an accurate representation of the world for me.  Very often the plurality catches up in a few years and what was previously a 'conspiracy theory' mutates into an obvious and unchallenged reality.

They found a scientist in China that studied bats that can't get sick from the virus and then made it seem like he, or the people he worked with intentionally released it.  They also linked him to some wacky conspiracy theory involving purging the world of humans for a new start.  They posted his picture, email, work address, phone number and ended the article with "If anyone wants to find out what really caused the coronavirus pandemic that has infected thousands of people in China and around the globe, they should probably pay him a visit"

Buzzfeed was the first to call out ZH, and they have since been banned from twitter.  A few hours ago they made a post about an old tweet that the buzzfeed reporter doxxed someone else in 2012. For extra measure they also included a bunch of troll tweets from people that made a fake blogs and screenshots to make him look like a pedophile.
BuzzFeed Journo Reportedly Blogged About Pedo Fantasies, Rape Jokes And Doxing

[fratoshi]

Zerohedge just publish an article containing data and facts from other credible sources, if the Wuhan Coronavirus is a bio-weapon or not is all conspiracy till proven.
But there are news that infected have been treated with HIV retrovirus medication.

[tvbcof]

Buzzfeed was the first to call out ZH, and they have since been banned from twitter.  A few hours ago they made a post about an old tweet that the buzzfeed reporter doxxed someone else in 2012. For extra measure they also included a bunch of troll tweets from people that made a fake blogs and screenshots to make him look like a pedophile.
BuzzFeed Journo Reportedly Blogged About Pedo Fantasies, Rape Jokes And Doxing

This is just sad. ZeroHedge has absolutely no shame. It is pure garbage, as are the people who write for them. Obviously they are butt hurt from no longer being able to get exposure from Twitter, but this is a pathetic way to get revenge.

If ZH made anything up about the BF guy in order to do their rebuttal the 'victim' has got a slam-dunk lawsuit, and nobody can tell me that BF doesn't have the funding to retain a few lawyers.  In today's climate they could almost certainly win a claim against ZH no matter what the details and who is guilty I would guess, but we've still got that pesky discovery thing and there are still independent contents outlets that won't necessarily cover up the damage.  For now.

After stumbling across a certain amount of BF content over the years, and trying to heal my bleeding eyes because of it, I have no trouble at all believing that the writer wants to be 'the Andy Warhol of hebephilia' or whatever it is that he is supposed to have written.  In fact I bet that half of the writers for that rag would like the same thing.  Until I see the guy prove that it is a malicious fabrication I'll assume it is probably true.

[tvbcof]

Zerohedge just publish an article containing data and facts from other credible sources, if the Wuhan Coronavirus is a bio-weapon or not is all conspiracy till proven.
But there are news that infected have been treated with HIV retrovirus medication.

Bingo.  I don't even have to bother to reply to Twitchy.  All the info they collated was in the public domain.  Someone just found it and wrote a very pertinent article about it.  Yes, written in ZH style which seems to be what really gets under certain people's skin (for bizarre reasons which we can only speculate about.)

I will say that I didn't take from the ZH article that Dr. Zhou would have been the guy to release the thing either on purpose or by accident.  As for talking to the guy, a whole lot of people should wish to do so for a whole lot of perfectly valid reasons.  Anyone who rules out biological engineering is deliberately blind and totally ignorant of the science of the last 30 or 40 years.  And ignorant of the current state of the analysis of 2019-nCoV at this time as well.  The good doctor could well be a valuable asset in getting to the bottom of what happened (and what has happened in the past and what will happen in the future over and over again until we-the-peeps have had enough.)

I will also say that I didn't remember some link to the world of elitist eugenics (which is a well documented thing) from reading the article.  Reading it again fails to produce such a link as well, or at least not an obvious one.  Screen caps or I'll assume that it is a thing which is limited to Twitch's mind.

[TwitchySeal]

I will say that I didn't take from the ZH article that Dr. Zhou would have been the guy to release the thing either on purpose or by accident.

Headline: "Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?"

Body: He's researching the viruses, and bats, and hiring people to help him, and the place he works is a lot like an evil corporation from a video game.

Conclusion: You should contact him.  Here's his email, phone number, photo and a map of where he works. 

[tvbcof]

I will say that I didn't take from the ZH article that Dr. Zhou would have been the guy to release the thing either on purpose or by accident.

Headline: "Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?"

Body: He's researching the viruses, and bats, and hiring people to help him, and the place he works is a lot like an evil corporation from a video game.

Conclusion: You should contact him.  Here's his email, phone number, photo and a map of where he works.  

I still didn't take it that way.  I took it that Dr. Zhou was definitely a leader in the field which produced the thing.  As such, he could be the 'man behind' it in a similar way that Einstein was the 'man behind' the atom bomb.

If all I knew is that there was a huge explosion which seemed to harness nuclear forces of the type which Einstein theorized about and I wanted to figure out more about what happened, I would start by asking Dr. Einstein if he knew of anyone who might have the means, motive, and opportunity to develop and deploy such a thing.

If someone has no interest it talking to Dr. Zhou then they have no interest in finding out any answers about the current issue.  That would only be the case if they had a pretty good idea of what they would find and no interest in finding it.  Or down here in peon-land it could just mean that they are a garden variety retard.

[TwitchySeal]

I will say that I didn't take from the ZH article that Dr. Zhou would have been the guy to release the thing either on purpose or by accident.

Headline: "Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?"

Body: He's researching the viruses, and bats, and hiring people to help him, and the place he works is a lot like an evil corporation from a video game.

Conclusion: You should contact him.  Here's his email, phone number, photo and a map of where he works.  

I still didn't take it that way.  I took it that Dr. Zhou was definitely a leader in the field which produced the thing.  As such, he could be the 'man behind' it in a similar way that Einstein was the 'man behind' the atom bomb.

If all I knew is that there was a huge explosion which seemed to harness nuclear forces of the type which Einstein theorized about and I wanted to figure out more about what happened, I would start by asking Dr. Einstein if he knew of anyone who might have the means, motive, and opportunity to develop and deploy such a thing.

If someone has no interest it talking to Dr. Zhou then they have no interest in finding out any answers about the current issue.  That would only be the case if they had a pretty good idea of what they would find and no interest in finding it.  Or down here in peon-land it could just mean that they are a garden variety retard.

tbf, I didn't take it that way either.

But ZH averages over 1m views a day, and I assume a decent chunk of them a prone to buying into these kind of things.  The issue isn't that they are lying, or even that they are trading outrage for clicks, posting the guys number and suggesting people contact him directly is crossing the line imo.  I know they found the info on the internet, and everyone has the internet, but they still put the idea of harassing the guy into peoples minds, and they made it way easier to do for those who wanted to.

[notbatman]

This mexican beer flu is big on hype and low on body count numbers, in fact it's seems on par with the common cold in spite of the fact it's full of sequences from great diseases like SARS, AIDS and Ebola.

[nutildah]

Zerohedge just publish an article containing data and facts from other credible sources, if the Wuhan Coronavirus is a bio-weapon or not is all conspiracy till proven.
But there are news that infected have been treated with HIV retrovirus medication.

Bingo.  I don't even have to bother to reply to Twitchy.  All the info they collated was in the public domain.  Someone just found it and wrote a very pertinent article about it.  Yes, written in ZH style which seems to be what really gets under certain people's skin (for bizarre reasons which we can only speculate about.)

I find the "ZH style" to be:
- dishonest
- inflammatory
- non-factual
- catering to an extremely selective audience and serving to profit from the reinforcement of their beliefs

Anyone who rules out biological engineering is deliberately blind and totally ignorant of the science of the last 30 or 40 years.  And ignorant of the current state of the analysis of 2019-nCoV at this time as well.

I'm not ruling it out but I'm saying it is highly unlikely. Coming from a biology background I require proof of these sorts of assertions, which is why I know for certain that ZH's articles on the subject are bumpkiss.

Its like, didn't you guys even read the tweet that I posted that was later included in the article which undermined the premise of their entire fucking article? In so many words, they admitted they wrote a hacky, baseless story. Yet you guys keep believing it to be true. Why? What's in it for you other than you don't have to admit you believed a falsehood?

If ZH made anything up about the BF guy in order to do their rebuttal the 'victim' has got a slam-dunk lawsuit, and nobody can tell me that BF doesn't have the funding to retain a few lawyers.  In today's climate they could almost certainly win a claim against ZH no matter what the details and who is guilty I would guess, but we've still got that pesky discovery thing and there are still independent contents outlets that won't necessarily cover up the damage.  For now.

After stumbling across a certain amount of BF content over the years, and trying to heal my bleeding eyes because of it, I have no trouble at all believing that the writer wants to be 'the Andy Warhol of hebephilia' or whatever it is that he is supposed to have written.  In fact I bet that half of the writers for that rag would like the same thing.  Until I see the guy prove that it is a malicious fabrication I'll assume it is probably true.

What does any of this have to do with the fact that this journalist exposed ZH for what they truly are? This was genuinely the first BF article I ever consciously read or remember reading. I don't give a shit about them. But because you do, it gives ZH credibility in their cowardly takedown of this journalist? Calling a journalist critical of one of your articles a pedophile instead of debunking their points is a logical response to you?

This entire section of the forum should be nuked from existence. Its an absolute cesspit of stupidity, weakness and ignorance. I've wasted entirely too much time here.