Coronavirus Outbreak

[Hilsgort_T]

I think the most important thing is not to panic. You need to understand that if you are not an employee of the epidemiological service, then you can not do anything but to protect yourself. If you try to walk less in public, wash your hands more often - then everything will be fine. It makes no sense to panic and discuss this if you are doing everything you can to do.

[eddie13]

I note attach to Asian lung worse, spread go less other country. Can be hope.

Are you referring to the research that suggests that this 2019-nCoV mainly attacks ACE2, of which Asians have have 500% more of in their lungs than do blacks or whites therefore leaving asians more succeptible to 2019-nCoV and also likely rending it more potentially lethal to them than others?
(Also more lethal/succeptible to males than females.)

"2019-nCov was reported to share the same receptor, Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), with SARS-Cov."
"A comparison between eight individual samples demonstrated that the Asian male one has an extremely large number of ACE2-expressing cells in the lung."
"We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area."
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3048295/men-may-be-more-prone-coronavirus-women-chinese-study-finds

Way to drop subtle hints @AbelBaricStevenson
Or has this been posted in this thread already and I missed it?

[notbatman]

^^^ I'm calling it the Mexican Beer Flu!

"Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag"


Abstract:

"We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity/similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus. ..."

-- https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf"

[TECSHARE]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

[tvbcof]

I've not read the whole article yet, but the first part itself has a bunch of interesting info.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

[klava1983]

This kind of virus can kill humans - it's a fact. New channels only make us feel anxious. I hope that the situation is not as horrible as some of us think about it.

[tvbcof]

What if a certain small-ish state decided it was time to take their rightful place and 'bring peace' to the world as has been prophesied.  Say this country had operational control over the government of what is considered the top-most country (who's place they need to take.)

In this age of finely tuned weapons which can target what remains of distinct genotypes (i.e., ethnicities), one way to do it would be to use the operational control of 'top country' to attack '2nd country' and make it 'overwhelmingly obvious' that it had been done.  It no longer being rocket science to produce these things, and utterly trivial to deploy them, the natural response would be for '2nd country' to retaliate in kind.

Then you sit back and enjoy the fireworks.  As long as the various main combatants rely on you for certain services, you are pretty safe.  Ultimately you just walk up and grab the crown which is rolling around on the floor and 'take your rightful place.'

People seem to think that 'my government' would not do anything to harm 'me' (along with the rest of the native population.)  This is a dangerous misconception as we move more and more into 'globalism.'  Many of the most powerful individuals on the face of the earth have themselves already 'transcended' the antiquated ideas of nationalism and borders and such-like.  Worse still, some of them remain fanatically 'tribal' in their own way.

[Naida_BR]

This kind of virus can kill humans - it's a fact. New channels only make us feel anxious. I hope that the situation is not as horrible as some of us think about it.

But if you compare this virus with SARS, SARS was a more fatal virus.
For Corona Virus we have around 8000 incidents reported and around 160 people killed which is not a big percentage if you see my point. SARS had a bigger percentage of deaths compared to the incidents occurred.

[TheCoinGrabber]

The whole situation is rather frightening but you have to realize that what makes it frightening is the media hysteria. There are other diseases that are spreading now and nobody talks about them. Take the measles in Europe or the influenza in the USA. You probably haven't even heard of it and it's the fault of the media, meanwhile the number of victims is much bigger

There are measles and flue vaccines so they aren't as scary.

This kind of virus can kill humans - it's a fact. New channels only make us feel anxious. I hope that the situation is not as horrible as some of us think about it.

But if you compare this virus with SARS, SARS was a more fatal virus.
For Corona Virus we have around 8000 incidents reported and around 160 people killed which is not a big percentage if you see my point. SARS had a bigger percentage of deaths compared to the incidents occurred.

Assuming they were reporting the deaths accurately, then maybe yes it's not as deadly. We'll find out later once it infects more people in countries that do release proper information, whether it is less or more fatal.

[fabiola!]

governments of many countries are doing best to avoid corona virus from spreading , people should cooperate and follow the instruction i have seen reports that medicines for this virus are being developed at a faster rate then previous epidemic -

stay safe

[Negotiation]

This kind of virus can kill humans - it's a fact. New channels only make us feel anxious. I hope that the situation is not as horrible as some of us think about it.

The condition of the coronavirus is much worse now than before I saw in the news today that public transport has been temporarily closed in the seventh-largest city in China, increasing the risk of coronavirus. About 1 million people live in the city and the virus spreads to several countries, including the United Kingdom Hong Kong.

[BADecker]

Now can our owners dominate the world if we destroy the Coronavirus?


CNN Is Angry That Too Many White People Are Trying To Stop The Coronavirus Spreading

That was the message sent by an article posted on the news network's website entitled 'Coronavirus task force another example of Trump administration's lack of diversity'.

The two images illustrating the article showed Barack Obama's circle of advisers during the 2017 Ebola outbreak and President Trump's advisers during a recent meeting about the coronavirus outbreak. In the photograph showing Trump's advisers, most of them are, God forbid, white men.

"Who are these experts?" whined CNN's Brandon Tensley. "They're largely the same sorts of white men (and a couple women on the sidelines) who've dominated the Trump administration from the very beginning."

Tensley called the image, "a statement that's as predictable as it is infuriating: President Donald Trump's administration lacks diversity."

He concludes by complaining about how "Trump values the opinions of: mostly white men who are mirror images of the President himself."

Apparently, wanting to not appear racist is more important than stopping a rapidly spreading global pandemic which has now reached at least 23 countries.

[TECSHARE]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/01/chinese-residents-ordered-cull-pets-amid-fears-may-spread-coronavirus-12164217/

[TwitchySeal]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/01/chinese-residents-ordered-cull-pets-amid-fears-may-spread-coronavirus-12164217/

Roughly 10–20 million dogs are killed for consumption in China each year, making the country the world's largest consumer of dog meat. Consuming dog meat is not illegal in mainland China, and the Chinese Ministry of Agriculture has never issued quarantine procedures for slaughtering dogs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

Just sayin.

[tvbcof]

Another data point.  This guy claims to do his own bench science and claims to see clear and convincing evidence that 2019-nCoV is almost certain to have been lab created.  The 'snake' material that we heard about early on is marked indication a 'pShuttle-sn' which is technology published in the 1990's as a method for inserting genes.

https://youtu.be/hPdGfibyOZ0?t=1276

My own take is that the scientist is probably right with his science and analysis.  If he is wrong, he was probably working with sequences which were bogus (but he still got them from somewhere.)  Of course there is also the possibility that he is fabricating and lying for whatever reason.

The questions remain about whether the virus was made for vaccine research or for bio-warfare (or some combination of both.)

The question also remains about who made it.  Understanding that will help figure out how it got to be floating around in public (if it even is.)

The suggestion that the 2019-nCoV formed 'naturally' is, in my opinion, bogus.  I sort of 'sensed' that before simply because of how that 'bat eating dinks' story was circulated and by whom.

The new angle is that it was a 'weapons lab' which the 'chi-coms' were stupid enough to put in Wuhan and they didn't know how to keep clean.  Maybe, but I get the same sixth-sense about how that particular idea is being injected and cultivated as I did about the earlier 'slants eating bats' one.  But that's just me.

[TECSHARE]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/01/chinese-residents-ordered-cull-pets-amid-fears-may-spread-coronavirus-12164217/

Roughly 10–20 million dogs are killed for consumption in China each year, making the country the world's largest consumer of dog meat. Consuming dog meat is not illegal in mainland China, and the Chinese Ministry of Agriculture has never issued quarantine procedures for slaughtering dogs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

Just sayin.

The key word here is pets. This is pretty excessive, useless, and authoritarian exercise. Perhaps they should kill all the sparrows while they are at it too... This is a base example of trauma based mind control. Kill your pet or go to prison. You are damned if you do you are damned if you don't. If you do then you chose complicity in your mind, and it will be harder to sway you from that which you made such a sacrifice for. If you don't they lock you up and probably kill your pet anyway. There is no evidence it is being spread through pets. I can understand mandating keeping them indoors, but this is way out of line.

[nutildah]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

This article is unsurprisingly a bunch of rubbish. The quoted studies in the article say nothing about "HIV insertions", rather that it contained protein structures similar to those found in HIV. While an uncommon occurrence in nature, in no way does it mean HIV proteins had been "spliced" into the virus. Have you looked at the story recently? They have included this tweet and are doing some backtracking, probably after having been called out repeatedly for being full of shit:

These short inserts do indeed exist in #nCoV2019 relative to its closest sequenced relative (BetaCoV/bat/Yunnan/RaTG13/2013, seen here https://nextstrain.org/groups/blab/sars-like-cov). However, a simple BLAST of such short sequences shows match to a huge variety of organisms. No reason to conclude HIV.

The key word here is pets. This is pretty excessive, useless, and authoritarian exercise. Perhaps they should kill all the sparrows while they are at it too... This is a base example of trauma based mind control. Kill your pet or go to prison. You are damned if you do you are damned if you don't. If you do then you chose complicity in your mind, and it will be harder to sway you from that which you made such a sacrifice for. If you don't they lock you up and probably kill your pet anyway.

And this is you misinterpreting what the article you posted says. It doesn't say anybody will go to prison. It says provincial villagers are being ordered to cull their pets in some places, and keep them indoors in others, at the risk of them being culled by the police or officials if they are found outdoors. Its not "trauma based mind control" so much as local officials being pressured to implement solutions even at the risk of them being poor or ineffective. Its an unfortunate byproduct of panic and nothing more.

[eddie13]

I have been seeing reports of throwing "pets" out of high story windows, for fear they are carrying the virus, for a while before any suggestions that the CCP recommended such a practice..

[notbatman]

@nutildah of course, recombinant RNA viruses with bat, snake, HIV, SARS and ebola segments that target only human asian males occurs in nature all the time. Duh, everybody knows this!

I can't believe this nonsense about trauma based mind control either. When the government tells you to kill your dog because it might carry the mexican beer flu then you just go bash its head with a ball-peen hammer, it's not a fucking conspiracy eh.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/01/30/michael-bloomberg-shakes-dog-snout-moos-pkg-ebof-vpx.cnn

[lanos925]

Russia reported its first two cases of coronavirus on Friday and said the infected people were Chinese citizens who had been isolated.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/02/01/coronavirus-update-russia-reacts-to-first-cases-a69117