[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[Ingatqhvq]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

I agree. But some people might decide that 1500% return is good enough for them. I also think that we need to start at 20-30 satoshi because we need good distributiion. What's the reason to sit on your coins, we need to spread them.

Yes, 20-30 satoshi is a good start.

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[eli_lyd1]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

I agree. But some people might decide that 1500% return is good enough for them. I also think that we need to start at 20-30 satoshi because we need good distributiion. What's the reason to sit on your coins, we need to spread them.

It would be wise for stakeholders to distribute the coin gradually by offering bounties
for projects to build applications and services and infrastructure that will use the coin
and not just sell the coin for dirty cheap or dirty expensive.
Problem with IPOs is that there are lot of speculators that invest and that are looking for short time gains
and those people will likely dump the coin soon as possible because in their heads
at the end is all calculated in FIAT

People please stop thinking only in terms of FIAT (MarketCrap,USD,EUR) and try to understand a bigger picture
how crypto currency can save us from the current state of things and from the power of the few
and give us more economic freedom.

A man without economic freedom is not a free man.
Just my 2 Qora

There would be some bounties , I think the shareholders will donate some qora as bounties.
Is there any one agree with me ?

[hyunsookmom]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

I agree. But some people might decide that 1500% return is good enough for them. I also think that we need to start at 20-30 satoshi because we need good distributiion. What's the reason to sit on your coins, we need to spread them.

It would be wise for stakeholders to distribute the coin gradually by offering bounties
for projects to build applications and services and infrastructure that will use the coin
and not just sell the coin for dirty cheap or dirty expensive.
Problem with IPOs is that there are lot of speculators that invest and that are looking for short time gains
and those people will likely dump the coin soon as possible because in their heads
at the end is all calculated in FIAT

People please stop thinking only in terms of FIAT (MarketCrap,USD,EUR) and try to understand a bigger picture
how crypto currency can save us from the current state of things and from the power of the few
and give us more economic freedom.

A man without economic freedom is not a free man.
Just my 2 Qora

There would be some bounties , I think the shareholders will donate some qora as bounties.
Is there any one agree with me ?

OK, you first.

And do you actually know what people mean by  "projects to build applications and services and infrastructure that will use the coin"

I'm not aware of any service that anyone needs?

The only thing I can think of is a mobile wallet, but I would prefer to pay 1$ for a good one rather than do a charity job for one. This is how NXT became a sprawling mess. Lets wait to see what the maker thinks needs help with before people jump around like headless chickens forming committees.

[wizzardTim]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

100 MINIMUM.

[50cent_rapper]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

100 MINIMUM.

+1!

I'm ok with FREE giveaways, but don't sell coins CHEAP at exchange, because there is no guaranty, that they price will not stuck on this "start" level for long.

100 satoshi is minimum price for exchange. If you wanna more users -> make free giveaways, but don't sell cheap.

[nextgencoin]

One question I have for Qora is If Qora is a completely new code will it be hard to get on exchanges?

[ishsat694]

are there any new updates from developer?

[dzarmush]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

100 MINIMUM.

+1!
I'm ok with FREE giveaways, but don't sell coins CHEAP at exchange, because there is no guaranty, that they price will not stuck on this "start" level for long.
100 satoshi is minimum price for exchange. If you wanna more users -> make free giveaways, but don't sell cheap.

Ok, 100 it is 

[dzarmush]

Anyone got any serious offers to sell part or all of their stake. I was thinking 3 BTC for 1 BTC stake...

I asked on here and the PM offers I got were ridiculous to say the least.

3/1 is ridiculous. IPO price was about 1.3 satoshi per QOR. Not let's look at Nas - simple clone of Nxt with absolutely nothing new to offer. What is it price? Around 9-10 satoshi atm. Was up to 25 satoshi a couple of days ago. And it'll grow fast for sure.

So the minimum price for Qora is 20-30 satoshi right after launch, which means 1 btc stake costs minimum 15 btc.

100 satoshi is the minimum price.
Qora can compete with NXT.
One of major shortcomings of NXT is wallet client. It's not friendly for average people.
If qora has a better wallet client, it will attract more people than NXT.

I agree. But some people might decide that 1500% return is good enough for them. I also think that we need to start at 20-30 satoshi because we need good distributiion. What's the reason to sit on your coins, we need to spread them.

It would be wise for stakeholders to distribute the coin gradually by offering bounties
for projects to build applications and services and infrastructure that will use the coin
and not just sell the coin for dirty cheap or dirty expensive.
Problem with IPOs is that there are lot of speculators that invest and that are looking for short time gains
and those people will likely dump the coin soon as possible because in their heads
at the end is all calculated in FIAT

People please stop thinking only in terms of FIAT (MarketCrap,USD,EUR) and try to understand a bigger picture
how crypto currency can save us from the current state of things and from the power of the few
and give us more economic freedom.

A man without economic freedom is not a free man.
Just my 2 Qora

There would be some bounties , I think the shareholders will donate some qora as bounties.
Is there any one agree with me ?

I'd definitely pledge some qora for essencial products and features.

[dzarmush]

NXT problem was over complicating things. We need one simple client, one simple website and one source of official information, no fan made clients, no sprawling information on multiple forums, none of that BS.  Most people but techies hate complicated.

I do think the client with all these gen2 coins will make or break them.

Oh yeah, I'm not 100% techie but I'm on my way and still all these Nxt clients are freaking me out. I'm still using NRS, because there are just too much clients (5-6?) on different stages of development. And when they release new 0.8.13.20.105.36.20N exprimental version of NRS all clients shoud be updated. It's just crazy.

[dzarmush]

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iPhone 4 lock screen http://img.leprosorium.com/2184126
iPhone 4 home screen http://img.leprosorium.com/2184125
iPhone 5 lock and home screens http://img.leprosorium.com/2184191

[wizzardTim]

wow

[BitcoinForumator]

Looks insanely good, like from the Tron movie.

[qora]

I must admit I find it quite crazy that people are already trading their stakes.

I intend to create blockexplorer soon after release.

If you would like I could give you more info about the API or you could tell me which functions you would need.
The new API will be more REST like using HTTP methods and urls to make it easier to use.

I want to be able to use RPC to receive information on all transactions in a given block.
 
And I am interested in the possibility of starting a wallet (as a daemon?) on Ubuntu Server, without the graphical interface.

You can start the program command line only using the -disablegui flag.

That's not the job of stakeholders but the developer who has 130 BTC to play with. He can do the logo and everything in my mind. Has anyone asked if QORA wants other people to make websites? Seems like pointless interference to me.

Ofcourse I can create a website and logo but I am far from a master in it.
If someone who is more capable wants to contribute who can stop him from doing it?
If it is good and they allow me to use it I could use it as the base of the official website.
I will maintain a website myself because of the trust needed when it comes to hosting the client.
I will not transfer any of the BTC invested before the release because people need to be able to ask for refunds.

OK, you first.

And do you actually know what people mean by  "projects to build applications and services and infrastructure that will use the coin"

I'm not aware of any service that anyone needs?

The only thing I can think of is a mobile wallet, but I would prefer to pay 1$ for a good one rather than do a charity job for one. This is how NXT became a sprawling mess. Lets wait to see what the maker thinks needs help with before people jump around like headless chickens forming committees.

People can provide bounties if that is what they want to do with their stake.
The only way I would be able to provide bounties is when people do not collect their stake.

I agree that if we want to keep things simply and organised one centralized party should be in control of all the wallets. When we look at bitcoin there is one official wallet that almost nobody is using anymore and a lot of 'light' wallets and mobile wallets that use servers but are still secure.

The plan is after the pc client is perfect to also develop light clients and mobile wallets.
There is still a lot of work to be done until we get to that point and the chance is big that mobile wallets will already be available by that time but they will not be officially supported.

In the end it will all come down to user-friendliness and documentation.

[BitcoinForumator]

I would buy a stake at the IPO price if there was someone who won't get their share at the launch.

[Conurtrol]

I would buy a stake at the IPO price if there was someone who won't get their share at the launch.

+1. Is there any waiting list?

[qora]

I would buy a stake at the IPO price if there was someone who won't get their share at the launch.

The only way you can still get a stake before launch is if someone is willing to sell theirs to you.

[agran]

iPhone 4 lock screen http://img.leprosorium.com/2184126
iPhone 4 home screen http://img.leprosorium.com/2184125
iPhone 5 lock and home screens http://img.leprosorium.com/2184137

[dzarmush]

iPhone 4 lock screen http://img.leprosorium.com/2184126
iPhone 4 home screen http://img.leprosorium.com/2184125
iPhone 5 lock and home screens http://img.leprosorium.com/2184137

https://pp.vk.me/c608329/v608329321/66c1/L5Zh2LCMs0s.jpg

I set it as my wallpaper also. I like how "> slide to unlock" type is glowing unde the light spot on the image.

Fixed iphone 5 image, now this lights spot also right under "> slide to unlock" type.

http://img.leprosorium.com/2184191

[dzarmush]

Qura (and guys), what kind of design for a website you prefer?

Modern http://epawncoin.com
Or classic http://www.qrk.cc