[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[flankliu]

Any ideas about making this as safe as possible are welcome.
I think the most secure way is to just use Qora itself as in investors pm me the address they want to receive their share on.

I agree with that. Don't like the idea of sending seed outside my computer in any way.

I agree.
We give the address, and he send the qora to my address. I think this would be safe.

yet, that is the best way.

yes,that is the safe way

[qingmu1992]

Any ideas about making this as safe as possible are welcome.
I think the most secure way is to just use Qora itself as in investors pm me the address they want to receive their share on.

I agree with that. Don't like the idea of sending seed outside my computer in any way.

I agree.
We give the address, and he send the qora to my address. I think this would be safe.

yet, that is the best way.

yes,that is the safe way

Yes, this is the best way to get the qora.

[hardalisas]

Any ideas about making this as safe as possible are welcome.
I think the most secure way is to just use Qora itself as in investors pm me the address they want to receive their share on.

I agree with that. Don't like the idea of sending seed outside my computer in any way.

I agree.
We give the address, and he send the qora to my address. I think this would be safe.

yet, that is the best way.

yes,that is the safe way

Yes, this is the best way to get the qora.

seems we reach a conclusion.

[2506396153]

I don't really understand this "account seed" 

Wouldn't it be easier if we just sent you a pm with our account's address and you send each investor their Qora?

seed  is new concept and let us try to use it

[2517313245]

that' right guys maybe have to get used to seed, after all it is new thing

[nextgencoin]

I think sending an address to Qora is a pretty simple way to do it. I dont have any more secure way???


BUT it's not fool proof. If someone does have access to your PM they could send an address they make.



CALL ME PARANOID BUT THIS FORUM IS FULL OF HACKER TYPES. WE NEED A SECURE WAY TO DO THIS.

PEOPLE SHOULD CHANGE THEIR ACCOUNT ADDRESS NOW IN CASE THEY ARE HACKED ALREADY.


PEOPLE CALLING TO USE SEEDS WITH SOCK PUPPET ACCOUNTS AND BROKEN ENGLISH WORRIES ME, SORRY IF THAT SOUNDS RACIST.

HOW DOES THE SEED THING WORK?

[dzarmush]

HOW DOES THE SEED THING WORK?

Pretty much the same as private keys in bitcoin. You got private key - you got a wallet. The same with seed.

[dzarmush]

As for me I'll just sing a message with my qora address using btc investment address. I think it's the most secure way.

1HyvPpAnmLpg5zLnR9k5dUDQfzi8ENWAdi
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Dear dev, this is my Qora address: Qoratest112233
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IHTCGxNob8fVyA0ZoCY5wt3Nb0IJCUJhV5dJ5QRU21lzUzjOYwFrps+2YfE+ol5Fk4LdATzEf35HtuXiezBByT0=

[nextgencoin]

HOW DOES THE SEED THING WORK?

Pretty much the same as private keys in bitcoin. You got private key - you got a wallet. The same with seed.

so in theory it's no more safer than if you generated your own address?


I guess if you get your seed, you have advantage that there can be a time delay while people who don't receive the seed can say something plus make a password to protect the wallet?

[WZJ778899]

I like this coin !!

[dzarmush]

HOW DOES THE SEED THING WORK?

Pretty much the same as private keys in bitcoin. You got private key - you got a wallet. The same with seed.

so in theory it's no more safer than if you generated your own address?


I guess if you get your seed, you have advantage that there can be a time delay while people who don't receive the seed can say something plus make a password to protect the wallet?

I'd say it is less safer. If someone gets your seed before you get, you're screwed.

I guess Qora (BCNext) wanted to use the same way of distribution he used for Nxt but didn't think this through  
In Nxt you send a password hash and dev sends coins to the address he gets from a hash and you're the only person who has a password.

With seed (or privat key) there are at least two people who have an access to your wallet after coins are distributed: you and dev. Plus anybody who has read your PMs and got a seed from it.

[nextgencoin]

HOW DOES THE SEED THING WORK?

Pretty much the same as private keys in bitcoin. You got private key - you got a wallet. The same with seed.

so in theory it's no more safer than if you generated your own address?


I guess if you get your seed, you have advantage that there can be a time delay while people who don't receive the seed can say something plus make a password to protect the wallet?

I'd say it is less safer. If someone gets your seed before you get, you're screwed.

I guess Qora (BCNext) wanted to use the same way of distribution he used for Nxt but didn't think this through  
In Nxt you send a password hash and dev sends coins to the address he gets from a hash and you're the only person who has a password.

With seed (or privat key) there are at least two people who have an access to your wallet after coins are distributed: you and dev. Plus anybody who has read your PMs and got a seed from it.

Well I think Qora is aware of the PM risks. Won't have a time delay give at least people a chance to find any playing around. I mean if people make their own address, then PM Qora with it. He can make a list of anonymous addresses with the BTC stake amount next to it. Everyone can see if they can find their address and if they can't they can have time to say something?

I mean we already have a google doc of stakes, just need to add the address people send.

I personally have no problem if this lasts for a week or so to clear up any false claim cases.

[Thekitten]

I like this coin !!

Wait for, moon

[zXgn]

Currently I am thinking about launching it at 3pm GMT.
I will release the official date and hour plus the API documentation this weekend.
Also pming around 140 investors with bitcointalk making me wait 30 seconds between a pm is going to take a while.

I also want to know what will the author issuing for ipo investors

Each bitcoin transaction will represent one address.
On launch I will pm all known investors and ask how they want to receive the seed of that address.
Investors can then import that seed into their wallet and use it.

I'm suggesting to consider this service or similar https://privnote.com/

Someone creates a note, sends a link, you can read it just once. After the first time note was open service deletes it.

For example I created a note https://privnote.com/n/cfgyhsorzlnpkbnm/#zefvqzmkmusapetp after someone reads it, it will be deleted and I'll receive notification on my e-mail that the note has been read.

Everyone can choose their own way of receiving their account seed.
The investor is responsible to make sure that the way they use to receive it is secure.
Personally I do not like to send it over personal messages without knowing if the user is online.
Bitcointalk says that they cannot guarantee private messages are private.
Everyone should move their share to a new address as fast as possible for security.
Account seeds that are imported will also not be recoverable.
Any ideas about making this as safe as possible are welcome.
I think the most secure way is to just use Qora itself as in investors pm me the address they want to receive their share on.

Maybe you should use PGP, i think that is the best way.

[2517313245]

the most secure way is to just use Qora itself as in investors pm me the address they want to receive their share on.
i think it's a good way but i still want to support dev

[castles]

I like this coin !!

Wait for, moon

I missed the IPO stage

[gomei]

Qora to the moon! 

Yep! 

And I got e-mail: "This is an automatic notification to let you know that your note referred as no reference has been read."

to the moon!

[KyLins]

When a coin launch？

[italcoin]

What was the ipo price for this coin?

[dzarmush]

When a coin launch？

Most likely 16th May