🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[wheelz1200]

Seems to me like football’s popularity is fading fast. I’m finding more and more basketball fans or fighting fans and less and less football supporters these days. I can’t help but blame their management. Some of it might also have to do with the brutality of the sport and the brain issues being made public by former players, but I feel like they’ve got a long way to go before the NFL figures out a way forward.

Yeah right and that's why American football is being adopted all over the world.

3rd spot nice.  I still have to get payment over.  I will send it over by the end of the weekend.  Have we figured out a draft date yet?  Can't wait for the season to start feels like forever ago last season ended.  Looking forward to the giants competing for a solid playoff spot this year.

Shit man I thought I was doomed being a Pats fan but in comparison I feel blessed!

At least we can both be happy we're not Jets fans!

8th pick      DireWolfM14

Okay, so the hash-gods are plotting against me?  Typical, after such a difficult childhood.  I've had to deal with adversity all my life.  My mother abandoned me on a daily basis, leaving me to fend for myself among other uneducated derelicts and screaming yard-duties.  These traumatic experiences only strengthened my will, not only to survive, but to also succeed.  

Draft order is a bit over rated, I think I've done best drafting 5th overall and have gotten screwed the couple times I drafted first.
2 picks in a row can be an advantage.

Patriots fan, must not be a fan of the NFL east then 

All kidding aside tom has put on a show from 2000 to today.  That's a tough spot to fill now that he is gone.  Personal opinion everyone said it was bellicheck but now that Tom is gone true colors gonna shine.  Bill should have retired the day that Tom left for florida.

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[South Park]

3rd spot nice.  I still have to get payment over.  I will send it over by the end of the weekend.  Have we figured out a draft date yet?  Can't wait for the season to start feels like forever ago last season ended.  Looking forward to the giants competing for a solid playoff spot this year.

Shit man I thought I was doomed being a Pats fan but in comparison I feel blessed!

At least we can both be happy we're not Jets fans!

If Wilson is the real deal then they may not be unhappy for that much longer, I know that happy Jets fans sounds like an oxymoron but we may actually get to see it, the only thing that worries me about Wilson is that he had a surgery on his throwing shoulder so he may end up as another Chad Pennington.

Patriots fan, must not be a fan of the NFL east then 

People make fun of the NFC East but it was the Patriots kriptonite, Eli Manning and his tendency to make magical throws whenever he was facing the Patriots really did a number on us.

All kidding aside tom has put on a show from 2000 to today.  That's a tough spot to fill now that he is gone.  Personal opinion everyone said it was bellicheck but now that Tom is gone true colors gonna shine.  Bill should have retired the day that Tom left for florida.

Belichick is a great coach but he was given too much credit while people still underestimated Brady, when it comes to the defense and the special teams Belichick is a master, but when it comes to the offense he is terrible, especially at drafting, Brady covered that deficiency but since he is not there anymore we could see how bad the Patriots offense really was and it was not pretty, I hope you did not watched any Patriots games last year, I did as a fan and they were using trick plays just to get first downs, that is how awful they were at offense last year.

[bbc.reporter]

When will we drafting hehe.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

[Hueristic]

When will we drafting hehe.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

I don't know about espn site but there should be a way to edit your draft list and that is what I do to put guys in the order I think they should be in so when I draft the list is already the way I want guys and if something happens and I get an auto draft then a guy I want won't get passed on if someone thats rated higher is available.

[wheelz1200]

When will we drafting hehe.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

I've never used espn for ff but all of that is mostly automated.  The live draft should remove players that are unavailable and you should be able to see who you as well as everyone else has drafted.

Best advise I can give is.....pick your long snapper in the first round, special teams wedge breaker 2nd, place kick holder 3rd, then start looking to fill in some holes in rb, wr and qb. 

[nutildah]

These are the results of the block hash lottery:


692225      c   1st pick      nutildah

Nice! Thanks for doing this. Gronk is all mine and you can't stop me. LOL jk.

When will we drafting hehe.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

Yep like Heuristic said you can arrange your player rankings how you see fit before the draft starts.

So lets say somebody picks the #1 player on your list, then you would draft whoever you have in the #2 position on your draft list once it becomes your turn. If somebody picks your #2 before your turn, then you would pick whoever is #3 on your list, etc.

So you kind of have to pay attention to see if you can get the guy you want. You could pile your top 20 positions with QBs and draft 3 QBs while everyone else has moved on to selecting WR or RB. Then you'd be "QB heavy."

Who knows tho. Maybe you want to draft Davante Adams (WR) first if you think he's more important than a QB. That's just an example... could be anybody you feel is gonna earn you big points.

Here's a good second opinion as far as rank order is concerned:

https://fantasy.nfl.com/research/rankings


So did we come to a conclusion about the draft date? Sounded like we were headed toward the 3rd or 4th week of August.

[wheelz1200]

These are the results of the block hash lottery:


692225      c   1st pick      nutildah

Nice! Thanks for doing this. Gronk is all mine and you can't stop me. LOL jk.

When will we drafting hehe.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

Yep like Heuristic said you can arrange your player rankings how you see fit before the draft starts.

So lets say somebody picks the #1 player on your list, then you would draft whoever you have in the #2 position on your draft list once it becomes your turn. If somebody picks your #2 before your turn, then you would pick whoever is #3 on your list, etc.

So you kind of have to pay attention to see if you can get the guy you want. You could pile your top 20 positions with QBs and draft 3 QBs while everyone else has moved on to selecting WR or RB. Then you'd be "QB heavy."

Who knows tho. Maybe you want to draft Davante Adams (WR) first if you think he's more important than a QB. That's just an example... could be anybody you feel is gonna earn you big points.

Here's a good second opinion as far as rank order is concerned:

https://fantasy.nfl.com/research/rankings


So did we come to a conclusion about the draft date? Sounded like we were headed toward the 3rd or 4th week of August.

Yeah putting people in your que you have to be careful because every draft is different and you need to adjust how you draft based on how the draft is going.  There is no real steadfast way on how to draft.  Draft who ypu think will get you consistent points every week and go from there.

[morvillz7z]

So did we come to a conclusion about the draft date? Sounded like we were headed toward the 3rd or 4th week of August.

3rd week of August might be a little early, preseason games are still going on (they end on August 29), and you don't want to draft someone who has a hamstring injury or, god forbid, something more serious picked up in their last preseason match. September 2nd (Thu) through 7th (Tue) would be ideal, as close to kickoff game as possible. I don't have a preference for a specific day or hour, can pretty much do it at any time, perhaps @South Park can compile a list of everyone's preferred date/time so we can narrow it down.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

ESPN has mock drafts available 24/7, so you can play around and draft against real people, familiarize yourself with the interface, practice, etc.

https://fantasy.espn.com/football/mockdraftlobby

You can also do mock drafts vs. the computer (expert ratings) at fantasypros, their draft simulator is pretty good. You can finish it in less than 5 minutes if you don't take too long with your picks, just set the correct settings (2021-Standart-Snake-# of Teams 8 and your draft position), and you are good to go.

https://draftwizard.fantasypros.com/football/mock-draft-simulator/

[wheelz1200]

So did we come to a conclusion about the draft date? Sounded like we were headed toward the 3rd or 4th week of August.

3rd week of August might be a little early, preseason games are still going on (they end on August 29), and you don't want to draft someone who has a hamstring injury or, god forbid, something more serious picked up in their last preseason match. September 2nd (Thu) through 7th (Tue) would be ideal, as close to kickoff game as possible. I don't have a preference for a specific day or hour, can pretty much do it at any time, perhaps @South Park can compile a list of everyone's preferred date/time so we can narrow it down.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

ESPN has mock drafts available 24/7, so you can play around and draft against real people, familiarize yourself with the interface, practice, etc.

https://fantasy.espn.com/football/mockdraftlobby

You can also do mock drafts vs. the computer (expert ratings) at fantasypros, their draft simulator is pretty good. You can finish it in less than 5 minutes if you don't take too long with your picks, just set the correct settings (2021-Standart-Snake-# of Teams 8 and your draft position), and you are good to go.

https://draftwizard.fantasypros.com/football/mock-draft-simulator/

Yeah probably the best way to jam pack your education is to run through a couple of those mock drafts.  You can see how changes in each one of your mocks alters your team construct.  Every early decision you make on a certain position will trickle down effect who you plan on drafting later.

[South Park]

...perhaps @South Park can compile a list of everyone's preferred date/time so we can narrow it down.

So far these are the preferences the members of the league have expressed regarding the day and the hour the draft is to be conducted.

I don't have a preference for a specific day or hour, can pretty much do it at any time...

I think we've got folks from all over the world here, actually.  At least one member from Europe, and at least one American ex-pat hiding out in eastern Asia.  Weekends would be best for me, I tend to be early riser, which means I go to bed early too.

I am the same, weekends would work best for me but I could make the live draft any day as I have a flexible schedule, and regarding the hour US friendly will be best for me but again I could make it to the live draft at almost any hour as I do not really sleep that much.

I am away most weekends weekday nights are better for me but I can figure something out if it's on a Saturday night.

Any time is fine for me. Weekend preferable but given at least a few days notice I can make time on a weekday too.

I am good any day of the week, from any time between 2 PM and 2 AM EST.

And in other topics...

Rodgers actually showed at training camp for the Packers so he is playing this year but it seems his contract was modified which will allow him to exit the organization and have more control about his future next year, it seems that he got his way not in the exact way that he wanted as I am sure he did not wanted to play an additional year there but it seems he got close enough.

Sources: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-actually-shows-up-to-packers-training-camp-plus-saints-star-could-miss-nearly-30-of-the-season/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-packers-near-agreement-that-could-pave-way-for-2022-departure-qb-arrives-in-green-bay/


Edit: BTW the draft order has been updated already, I forgot to mention that, sorry for the delay.

[wheelz1200]

...perhaps @South Park can compile a list of everyone's preferred date/time so we can narrow it down.

So far these are the preferences the members of the league have expressed regarding the day and the hour the draft is to be conducted.

I don't have a preference for a specific day or hour, can pretty much do it at any time...

I think we've got folks from all over the world here, actually.  At least one member from Europe, and at least one American ex-pat hiding out in eastern Asia.  Weekends would be best for me, I tend to be early riser, which means I go to bed early too.

I am the same, weekends would work best for me but I could make the live draft any day as I have a flexible schedule, and regarding the hour US friendly will be best for me but again I could make it to the live draft at almost any hour as I do not really sleep that much.

I am away most weekends weekday nights are better for me but I can figure something out if it's on a Saturday night.

And in other topics...

Rodgers actually showed at training camp for the Packers so he is playing this year but it seems his contract was modified which will allow him to exit the organization and have more control about his future next year, it seems that he got his way not in the exact way that he wanted as I am sure he did not wanted to play an additional year there but it seems he got close enough.

Sources: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-actually-shows-up-to-packers-training-camp-plus-saints-star-could-miss-nearly-30-of-the-season/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-packers-near-agreement-that-could-pave-way-for-2022-departure-qb-arrives-in-green-bay/

Yeah Rogers playing this year in GB definitely solidifies some of the key pieces for ff in GB.  The lower of that outcome is Love who after being drafted in the first round will now sit on the bench for another year.  I'm sure he is fine with the paycheck but being behind Rogers he will surely be just a clipboard carrier this year.

[suchmoon]

So far these are the preferences the members of the league have expressed regarding the day and the hour the draft is to be conducted.

So if I'm reading this right, the best option is to do it around 4 AM US Eastern time so that most participants are asleep, drunk, or otherwise incapable of making sound choices and I can draft the best players (if I can figure out who they are).

j/k

Any time is fine for me. Weekend preferable but given at least a few days notice I can make time on a weekday too.

[nutildah]

So far these are the preferences the members of the league have expressed regarding the day and the hour the draft is to be conducted.

I suggest we just use EST as our standard time. ESPN and NFL usually list game times according to EST anyway.

I am good any day of the week, from any time between 2 PM and 2 AM EST.

Everybody else name your windows and we'll attempt to narrow down a spot.

[bbc.reporter]

So did we come to a conclusion about the draft date? Sounded like we were headed toward the 3rd or 4th week of August.

3rd week of August might be a little early, preseason games are still going on (they end on August 29), and you don't want to draft someone who has a hamstring injury or, god forbid, something more serious picked up in their last preseason match. September 2nd (Thu) through 7th (Tue) would be ideal, as close to kickoff game as possible. I don't have a preference for a specific day or hour, can pretty much do it at any time, perhaps @South Park can compile a list of everyone's preferred date/time so we can narrow it down.

Can anyone also give me some advice on how to do the draft? Do you use pen and paper and write down your picks and have a plan b and plan c if your chosen player is picked by someone else? Advice me please hehe.

ESPN has mock drafts available 24/7, so you can play around and draft against real people, familiarize yourself with the interface, practice, etc.

https://fantasy.espn.com/football/mockdraftlobby

You can also do mock drafts vs. the computer (expert ratings) at fantasypros, their draft simulator is pretty good. You can finish it in less than 5 minutes if you don't take too long with your picks, just set the correct settings (2021-Standart-Snake-# of Teams 8 and your draft position), and you are good to go.

https://draftwizard.fantasypros.com/football/mock-draft-simulator/

I tried the mock draft already. It was very confusing and I was very overwhelmed. It made me pick the players that I do not know and have not heard of hehehe.

Is this the sheet used for teams in all fantasy football games?

[South Park]

So if I'm reading this right, the best option is to do it around 4 AM US Eastern time so that most participants are asleep, drunk, or otherwise incapable of making sound choices and I can draft the best players (if I can figure out who they are).

j/k

Unfortunately for you I will not be sleepy or drunk at those hours.

Unfortunately for me I will still be incapable of making sound choices.

Is this the sheet used for teams in all fantasy football games?

The only difference is that the league settings allow you to pick up to 8 RBs and not up 6 RBs, you do not have to pick that many but you can do so if you want.

When will we drafting hehe.

We are trying to figure that out, could give us your preferences regarding the day of the week and the hour in which you could be available for the live draft?

[nutildah]

I tried the mock draft already. It was very confusing and I was very overwhelmed. It made me pick the players that I do not know and have not heard of hehehe.

Thats okay, nobody knows all the players (well most of us don't)... inevitably you draft people you never heard of, just the way it goes for most casual FF players, including myself.

Once we start getting down to the 8th round, you start to notice how small the NFL actually is... when you're left with nothing but people you never heard of to draft.

We will make sure you don't start with a disadvantage in knowing how things work. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and we'll answer them.

[Hueristic]

I tried the mock draft already. It was very confusing and I was very overwhelmed. It made me pick the players that I do not know and have not heard of hehehe.

This is the entire reason to do the mock draft so that this does not happen to you during the real draft.

Now keep doing them until you feel comfortable.

If you see a guy that gets fought over alot then research that person.

[wheelz1200]

I tried the mock draft already. It was very confusing and I was very overwhelmed. It made me pick the players that I do not know and have not heard of hehehe.

This is the entire reason to do the mock draft so that this does not happen to you during the real draft.

Now keep doing them until you feel comfortable.

If you see a guy that gets fought over alot then research that person.

Yeah definitely keep doing them and you will see "trends".  Your bench will be made up of some unknown players if you don't watch football every week but it's INSANELY harder in a 12 man league.  In a 8 team league you will prettyuch always have ayers that can perform so for novices 8 teams are fi e to play in.  I wouldn't go into a 12 team unless you've been through a couple of these.  Those leagues depend on waiver wire pickups which is intense as far as research goes.

[bbc.reporter]

@wheelz1200. Are we having an 8 man team or 12 man team? Does the app of ESPN let the league creator choose? I reckon this has not yet been formalzlied or agreed upon or I might not have been paying attention or I might have forgotten hehe. I want 8 man teams if we have a vote.

[South Park]

@wheelz1200. Are we having an 8 man team or 12 man team? Does the app of ESPN let the league creator choose? I reckon this has not yet been formalzlied or agreed upon or I might not have been paying attention or I might have forgotten hehe. I want 8 man teams if we have a vote.

Is this only an 8 team league   yum.  Will make rounds 4-10 less stressful.  

...and yes it is an 8 team league, in fact at the beginning I set it up as a 10 team league but I realized that filling that many spots could be difficult and the ESPN website did not allowed me to reduce the number of teams but it did allow me to increase it, so I thought it was better to start with an 8 team league and if there was demand for it we could increase it if necessary.

As you can see it was a judgment call I made when creating the league, it was an arbitrary decision but I thought that it was better to start small and only increase the number if there was the demand for it as the ESPN website allowed me to increase the number of teams but not to decrease it, we do not have a formal agreement but so far we have more support for the current size to remain that way, after all the discussion about the league has been going on for about 2 months and only the current members of the league have shown any interest, so it is not like we are excluding anyone that desperately wants to participate.