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November 20, 2022, 11:46:14 PM
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Honestly, we have heard a lot of promises from PSG before as well. But they have never lived up to their expectations.
In the last season, PSG also had shown some great promises with a great squad. But the problem is they did not do anything. Well, they did the win league title which is not an achievement at all.
So, I have actually lost my trust in PSG. And Lionel Messi has very little time left in his career. So, I don’t see why he would stay in PSG and basically waste his time when he cannot win anything with this team. A senior player is supposed to be angry at the team management when they are giving a kid more powers and authority which is not good for any team at all.
PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.

The league title for PSG does not matter at this point. We all know that they are going to win the league title no matter what. Just look at this season. Even though it felt like something bad given some type of resistance at the start of the season, eventually PSG was the one to dominate this league. And now they are in the first position, again, with a points advantage that gives them breathing space.

I don’t think the situation of Lionel Messi is anything similar to Cristiano Ronaldo's. If you know Messi does end up, leaving PSG I think he is going to get a club and very soon. And he will still be able to generate some money for his current club. But going to Barcelona does seem to be a stupid decision right now.

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November 20, 2022, 11:56:03 PM
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It will be difficult to maintain three star players at the same time, let especially since all three play for the same position, strikers. Offers from several other clubs to be one cause
But we know that Neymar's value is quite high, whether there will be a club other than Paris Saint-Germain willing to spend a lot of money for a player like Neymar, that is still a question mark because several clubs seem to be just interested without further discussion.
PSG has had this squad for several seasons. They have three superstars of football. but cannot rise up the UCL trophy. There may be something wrong with this. Probably, this may become one of the reasons why a club cannot hold superstars for similar positions at once, because the focus may be divided and not concerned. It's so pitying that Mbapee at that time failed to move, all about money. However, I ma not sure that PSG is lack money, they have no problem with the money to pay them. But the result of the performance is not really big enough. ALthough we still don't know what will happen in the UCL this season. Moreover, they will fight Bayern Munich in the first match.

To be honest, PSG is not being able to bring good enough results, and that is a big reason why a lot of star players think that they need to achieve more in their careers. They eventually end up leaving PSG. Neymar is a player who actually never unlocked his full potential. To me, it still feels like he has a lot of potentials but that potential never got unlocked and in search of unlocking his potential, he is already quite old. But the positive thing is that he is wanted by a lot of clubs if he wants to leave PSG. And I think he will leave. But I am not sure about Lionel Messi.

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November 21, 2022, 09:32:45 AM
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It will be difficult to maintain three star players at the same time, let especially since all three play for the same position, strikers. Offers from several other clubs to be one cause
But we know that Neymar's value is quite high, whether there will be a club other than Paris Saint-Germain willing to spend a lot of money for a player like Neymar, that is still a question mark because several clubs seem to be just interested without further discussion.
PSG has had this squad for several seasons. They have three superstars of football. but cannot rise up the UCL trophy. There may be something wrong with this. Probably, this may become one of the reasons why a club cannot hold superstars for similar positions at once, because the focus may be divided and not concerned. It's so pitying that Mbapee at that time failed to move, all about money. However, I ma not sure that PSG is lack money, they have no problem with the money to pay them. But the result of the performance is not really big enough. ALthough we still don't know what will happen in the UCL this season. Moreover, they will fight Bayern Munich in the first match.

To be honest, PSG is not being able to bring good enough results, and that is a big reason why a lot of star players think that they need to achieve more in their careers. They eventually end up leaving PSG. Neymar is a player who actually never unlocked his full potential. To me, it still feels like he has a lot of potentials but that potential never got unlocked and in search of unlocking his potential, he is already quite old. But the positive thing is that he is wanted by a lot of clubs if he wants to leave PSG. And I think he will leave. But I am not sure about Lionel Messi.

This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year

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November 21, 2022, 10:53:19 AM
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It will be difficult to maintain three star players at the same time, let especially since all three play for the same position, strikers. Offers from several other clubs to be one cause
But we know that Neymar's value is quite high, whether there will be a club other than Paris Saint-Germain willing to spend a lot of money for a player like Neymar, that is still a question mark because several clubs seem to be just interested without further discussion.
PSG has done it in previous seasons maintaining all three star players and the are good at playing their various positions as strikers. If Neymar be willing to leave then the club will have no choice but to let him go. I don't know of any club that can actually afford to keep him at their stadium the very reason he might end up retiring at PSG except he leaves on loan or free transfer.
There is no doubt right now PSG is doing good job and trying to keep all three stars which are giving good job to them all competitions even they are having not luck in Champions League but most chances they will achieve this as well because now their combination is doing good job, and they are near to achieve their targets about Neymar most chances he is not going to any other club with Mbappé was in rumours but with his current salary and facilities no other club will try with him because in last few years we have drastically changes in finances of few clubs which are trying to recover, but it's not easy for anyone.

But recently we have one club which is going to have few stars in coming years because they are also having big dreams like PSG, and it's Newcastle United but for their turn about this all we have to wait for their all updates which frequently coming after their performance in Premier League.

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November 21, 2022, 11:34:19 AM
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Players in promoted teams are not experienced enough. So suddenly they cannot perform well when they face strong teams. Gradually they lose confidence and their performance deteriorates further. However, the main weakness of teams like Ajaccio and Auxerre this season is their poor defense. The defense of these two teams is one of the weakest defenses in the league. I'd say Ajaccio and Auxerre can stay out of the relegation zone if they can strengthen their defenses.
In terms of recent performance i think ajaccio are playing better they managed some good results but they lost against auxere who are their relegation contenders which is the main negative thing plus ajaccio defense is much better i think they can move up the standings in the next few rounds since their games are easier than their rivals.
As we have early broken in this season but still 15 rounds are ended and with this current performance is showing most chances we will have tough fight for few clubs which are doing good job for survive because we have two good clubs are having the worst time, and they are unable to come out of bottom which is surely going to be setback for them and their fans with this most chances we will watch three teams will be down and out which were having some time in French Ligue 1 despite newly promoted sides.

Toulouse and Ajaccio can survive just need good performance after break with Angers, Strasbourg and Auxerre are in deep trouble with their poor run in early part of this season Brest and Ajaccio can fight till end with Nantes is also right now having not good time these all are personal views with current performance things can change as well.

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November 21, 2022, 01:47:54 PM
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Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.
The promoted teams have always difficulties to stay in the league for the first season since their players are weaker and weren't used to play vs professional teams mainly.
Their most important goal is to stay in the league first then to progress in the ranking whenever they consolidate the team with new good players.
Unfortunately for Ajaccio and Auxerre is that they joined Ligue 1 in the hardest season where 4 teams at once will drop to the second league..
It is difficult indeed when promoting to the highest caste because it is clear that there are many real differences in competition but on the other hand actually if you look at the current conditions of Angers and Strasbourg of course these three promoted teams still have a chance even though we know sometimes the teams in the highest caste always have value more especially in terms of mental so they have to prepare in the second half of the season.


Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.

But if we compare the three promoted teams, at least Toulouse was the best team last season in Ligue 2 because Toulouse won the Ligue 2 title last season. Whether it's a decent result or not, because every team that wins a title in the second tier of the league basically doesn't guarantee that they will be good when playing in the top tier of the league.
Because such cases also occur frequently in different leagues and countries, and it is still a decent result.

Because most promoted teams find it difficult to get good results or the expected results when playing in the highest caste of the league, but if one of them or maybe all of them can survive in the highest caste of the league for the next season then of course that is an achievement good for them.
But still, usually with time they will get degraded again and that's how it usually happens.
Tulus was quite good in Ligue 2 last season and actually at the start of this season they were quite good but towards the end before this break they seemed to have lost momentum and had to lose again and again.
5 Matches they only collected 4 points because their last 3 matches ended in defeat and of course this is quite disturbing Toulouse's current performance.

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November 21, 2022, 02:06:47 PM
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PSG has done it in previous seasons maintaining all three star players and the are good at playing their various positions as strikers. If Neymar be willing to leave then the club will have no choice but to let him go. I don't know of any club that can actually afford to keep him at their stadium the very reason he might end up retiring at PSG except he leaves on loan or free transfer.
Neymar still has plenty of time to retire, after showing good performance, I'm sure PSG will intend to keep him at PSG. actually from the start, the reason PSG recruited him was so they could get the UCL trophy (because they were too bored with the Ligue 1 trophy), let's see if this season PSG can get it.
True, with the improved cooperation shown by their players like Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, Paris Saint Germain will try to keep him. But will that alone get them the trophy they've always wanted? of course not. I actually want to see Paris Saint Germain to regenerate their players so that they can be assets in the long term rather than having to continue to recruit players who already have star player titles, in fact they should be able to create more star players.

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November 21, 2022, 02:17:36 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
Has there been a bit of news leaks about the departure of the good players at PSG if this season PSG are unable to win the Champions League trophy? Because if it only came from your mind, I still can't believe it because the audience's thoughts are just speculation whose certainty is still unclear. Because the Champions League is a very difficult and challenging league, so only a team that can really have high ability and consistency will win the Champions League trophy.

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November 21, 2022, 02:59:17 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
Has there been a bit of news leaks about the departure of the good players at PSG if this season PSG are unable to win the Champions League trophy? Because if it only came from your mind, I still can't believe it because the audience's thoughts are just speculation whose certainty is still unclear. Because the Champions League is a very difficult and challenging league, so only a team that can really have high ability and consistency will win the Champions League trophy.
Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.

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November 21, 2022, 03:25:01 PM
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PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.
They do not need one title, they need all 6 and that's the issue. Could they end up with all 6? To win the ligue 1, that’s easy, to win the domestic cup? That should be easy, to win UCL? That’s very hard and that’s what they aim every single year, and spending that much money? Owners surely believe they deserve to win UCL at least once. After that is easy, it's domestic super cup, which should be child’s play, to win uefa super cup, to play with europa winner, not as easy but still should be easy, and then club world cup which is hard but still doable.

If we ever see PSG win those all 6 cups, that would be "enough", like not just for one year, but after that they can just win ligue 1 and nothing else for another 10 years and still be happy about the situation.

For those who have never reached the top, of course, the main task is to do this at least once, and given the history of PSG's failures, for the sheikhs this could be an idea fix. I really don't care what their future plans are as I hope this corrupt scum won't win the Champions League even once  Grin

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November 21, 2022, 06:49:33 PM
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Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.
The promoted teams have always difficulties to stay in the league for the first season since their players are weaker and weren't used to play vs professional teams mainly.
Their most important goal is to stay in the league first then to progress in the ranking whenever they consolidate the team with new good players.
Unfortunately for Ajaccio and Auxerre is that they joined Ligue 1 in the hardest season where 4 teams at once will drop to the second league..
Players in promoted teams are not experienced enough. So suddenly they cannot perform well when they face strong teams. Gradually they lose confidence and their performance deteriorates further. However, the main weakness of teams like Ajaccio and Auxerre this season is their poor defense. The defense of these two teams is one of the weakest defenses in the league. I'd say Ajaccio and Auxerre can stay out of the relegation zone if they can strengthen their defenses.
Agree with what you say but actually seeing the current conditions they are still able to survive especially in this case there are some surprises of course like Strasbourg and Angers.
Actually for the promotion team, the chance is still very small for them to survive, but that doesn't mean they can't survive because if they can stay competitive, then whether it's a promotion team or not, it's clear that there is still a chance to stay in the main caste.

I would say every team outside of 11th in the points table has an equal chance of going into the relegation zone. Because Toulouse, which is in 12th position in the points table, is only 3 points apart from Auxerre, which is in 17th position. And so at any time the position of these teams may change. A team can stay away from the relegation zone if they manage to win 3/4 out of matches in a row. So now it is not possible to predict which teams will be able to stay in Ligue 1 next season.

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November 21, 2022, 07:01:38 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
Has there been a bit of news leaks about the departure of the good players at PSG if this season PSG are unable to win the Champions League trophy? Because if it only came from your mind, I still can't believe it because the audience's thoughts are just speculation whose certainty is still unclear. Because the Champions League is a very difficult and challenging league, so only a team that can really have high ability and consistency will win the Champions League trophy.
But it is not wrong to assume that because the club leaders are still very interested in the Champions League trophy so that when they fail again now it is not impossible that Nasser Al-Khelaifi will continue to add good players and replace those who feel they have failed so that their wish is achieved to win this competition .

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November 21, 2022, 07:07:55 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
Has there been a bit of news leaks about the departure of the good players at PSG if this season PSG are unable to win the Champions League trophy? Because if it only came from your mind, I still can't believe it because the audience's thoughts are just speculation whose certainty is still unclear. Because the Champions League is a very difficult and challenging league, so only a team that can really have high ability and consistency will win the Champions League trophy.
lol, I was surprised to read this post that if PSG fails to get the UCL trophy this season then PSG will throw away their star player. PSG may very easily get the Ligue 1 trophy but the UCL trophy requires a tough struggle, they have to beat a lot of great and rich teams, so it's not easy for PSG owners to force their squad to be able to get the UCL trophy.
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November 21, 2022, 07:11:51 PM
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Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.
In last few months we have few different rumours about PSG future because now management is frustrated as they are spending huge funds but still unable to win their most desired trophy Champions League even they have worlds best squad and most lethal attack which is useless in European competitions.

But, now if in this season we have no positive development about this then surely we can expect good changes even few rumours are saying current owners can sell this club which could be never good for them as usual they have good command in French league and their current points gape is going to widen which mean they could be announced champions few weeks early which happening for last few years, but main concern is UEFA need good breakthrough in this season with now their next match is against Bayern Munich.
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November 21, 2022, 07:11:59 PM
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This is the last chance for psg to win the champions league title in my opinion because if they fail to achieve it this year i think many players will leave and mbape will be the first in the list, lionel messi will most likely return to Barcelona whatever the outcome of this year
This can't be their last chance of winning the champions league, if they fail to win it this season, they would try again next time, and they will keep trying until they can get it right, that is how football works, you can't give up because you failed to win a trophy, the same way you desire to win it is the same way other teams want to win it too. Psg may even be eliminated in the next round this season, they have a strong opponent in Bayern Munich. Lionel Messi isn't returning to Barcelona, there is no reason for him to, if he wants to leave psg he will go somewhere else, Mbappe has a big contract with psg, and if he is going to leave, the team that will buy him will have to pay too much money, which makes it hard. Even if psg fail to win the champions league this season, and then lose players, they have the money to buy new players that are very good, and try again.

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November 21, 2022, 08:58:21 PM
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To be honest, PSG is not being able to bring good enough results, and that is a big reason why a lot of star players think that they need to achieve more in their careers. They eventually end up leaving PSG. Neymar is a player who actually never unlocked his full potential. To me, it still feels like he has a lot of potentials but that potential never got unlocked and in search of unlocking his potential, he is already quite old. But the positive thing is that he is wanted by a lot of clubs if he wants to leave PSG. And I think he will leave. But I am not sure about Lionel Messi.
They win 1-2 titles each year at the very least, and go far in champions league every year, that should be enough for most players, maybe not even for Mbappe, but Neymar and Messi already achieved so far in their life, wouldn't need anything else, and the others are not really that good enough to be starting position players for an UCL team anyway, they are in a team as good as they can get.

So, I am guessing that they should be happy with what they have, and Mbappe is getting paid so much that he should be happy even if they lose it all, like even if they fail to get the domestic cup, the league, the ucl, all of them and should still be happy because dude is getting paid insane amounts.

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November 21, 2022, 11:31:13 PM
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Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.
A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.

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November 21, 2022, 11:48:13 PM
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Mbappe himself have a contract with PSG until 2025, in my opinion he will not rush to move because at PSG this man has the privilege with a fantastic salary, also there is no news about this man to move another club. Regarding Lionel Messi contract with PSG will expire at the end of the 2022/2023 season. According to the news I've read, PSG will continue contract talks with Lionel Messi when he returns from the World Cup. I personally also don't really believe in news on the internet except directly from the club official website.
A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.
It's a classic one indeed , but you know what? As messi have said that he will of course come back to barcelona anytime soon after he thinks the journey is enough , still it doesn't really mean that he will comeback as a player though isn't it?

Especially if there more offer coming to him from psg ... he will have to think more than twice.

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November 22, 2022, 01:57:46 PM
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A star like Lionel Messi is always targeted by news that can surprise many people, because it is processed by news writers based on their own thoughts, not based on the official site, so I ask when there is no confirmation or news from the official site. But wherever Lionel Messi is next season, he won't be as productive as before so other teams have to really understand this if indeed Lionel Messi can really move.

This is a vicious circle - any news inflates the hype around the player and makes him "more valuable" to the media. Even in this thread, 40% of the posts contain the word "Messi" although his significance for PSG and the French championship in general is minimal. Today in the game with Saudi Arabia (lol) he got a score of 6. It is obvious that age has affected him and in terms of prospects he is not interesting.

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November 22, 2022, 02:36:42 PM
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With very huge capital spent for player transfers and player as well as coach salary and compensation, will they satisfy with only going far in Champions League?

They don't satisfy with that result and they want to win Champions League. With their resources, they should win many Champions League, not only one time which they even did not achieve so far.

With talented and ambitious players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, I am sure they don't feel happy if they can not win Champions League or Ballon d'Or. To win Ballon d'Or, Champions League trophy is a very big contributor.

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So, I am guessing that they should be happy with what they have, and Mbappe is getting paid so much that he should be happy even if they lose it all, like even if they fail to get the domestic cup, the league, the ucl, all of them and should still be happy because dude is getting paid insane amounts.
They feel happy with money they received from PSG but with professional and ambitious players, they also want to win big trophies. Money is not all for their career and their lives.
Why not? Aside from the trio of Messi + Neymar + Mbappe, all other players deserve only the league and domestic cup, I mean they are not sowrld star players, they are just players that would be happy to win the title. What makes them so much better is that trio, and if they win one UCL with them, that would be great, but even if they don't, I feel like they should be happy about what they have.

Having a dominating team in the league, nobody even close to you is a great feeling, msut be, I never became a fan of a team that was that good, and that means fans are luck. No matter how much money you spend, UCL is never guaranteed, so it should not be a goal, it should be something you are happy to get if you do, but not sad if you don't.

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