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June 07, 2023, 03:56:04 AM
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Completely agree with you. Indeed, Lionel Messi failed to bring PSG to win the UEFA Champions League, but Lionel Messi does not deserve to be treated like he is not appreciated. I saw some news a lot from Ultras PSG who don't like it. if Lionel Messi is not appreciated, of course this will greatly affect his appearance. I think Lionel Messi wasn't too bad when he was with PSG, Messi became the top assist in the league, the second top scorer at PSG this season, but instead got that treatment from PSG ultras.
Messi is only one player and he can not bring PSG to Champions League. To win Champions League, PSG must win it as a strong team which they are not. I agree that PSG performance in Champions League becomes worse with Messi in the two latest seasons but I disagree to blame those bad performances on only Messi.

If PSG midfield and defensive areas are weak, Messi and other attacking players can not bring PSG to Champions League trophy. I agree that Messi performance is not too good but it's not his responsibility for PSG poor performances. Other players and coach must share part of responsibility together with Messi.

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Messi's story at PSG, Like Ronaldo when he moved from Man United. The story is almost the same. Hopefully Messi can get a place and a good and appreciated club and supporters. Ronaldo has moved to Arabia. And Messi will follow Ronaldo to Arab lands or will he return to Barcelona.
He will have to choose to stay in Europe to enjoy world class football or move to Saudi and enjoy money. Messi might return to Barcelona for 2 seasons and the rest of his career can be in Saudi. I believe next 2 or 3 years, if Messi won't retire, he will receive offers from Saudi.

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June 07, 2023, 03:56:57 AM
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From now on one of the things I'm curious about the most is what Lens will do next season. I mean especially in the Champions League.  Smiley  Because Lens appeared in the Champions League only twice in their history - one was in 1990s and the other one was in 2000s. It has been a long time so we can call them inexperienced there.

They need to keep their most valuable players in the team above all else. Fofana and Openda are the names who are really important to the team now. Openda's 21-goal contribution was a big factor helping them reach the Champions League group stage. Moreover they had better reinforce the weakest areas with the right transfers to be ready.

Then maybe they can do something worth watching there and they can even keep being consistent in the Ligue 1 also.
Lens should be bought more players to strengthen their squad because besides in Ligue 1 Lens also have to play at champion league and this competition is very tight with plenty of tough teams at there and it will be very difficult for Lens to compete on that competition with the current squad but there was a bad news for Lens that they will losing their top scorer Lois Openda and this because that player has been reach an agreement with Germany team Leipzig and it says Lens has been agree with 30 millions transfer fee

And besides that other key player such as Seko Fofana also has been into AC Milan watchlist and if we see from this situations i think Lens strength will be decrease next season because they cannot keep their key players to stayed and indeed probably Lens will buy more players to replaced them but i think the quality will not be equal to Lois Openda or Seko Fofana so i highly doubt Lens can able to repeat their achievement next season

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June 07, 2023, 06:06:03 AM
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What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
People forgot this point. The main aim for PSG by signed so many world class players like messi was not only for winning the farmer league but UCL has become the main target caused by PSG was not able winning it since it has been acquired by billionaires.
I support the decision from PSG to sack galtier and it's happening last days.

PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
It's not only good talent but PSG really needs a competence coach who can rebuild the club to be even better without even signing the great players like that. Having good talented players are not enough. it's caused by PSG has so many talented players but none of them were useful when it came to the UCL competitions.

PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
PSG needs to sell more players first. Messi, Ramos, Neymar have been leaving from the clubs. PSG needs to find successors for all of them.

It's not gonna be an easy job for PSG.

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June 07, 2023, 06:16:25 AM
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PSG had a good performance prior to signing big names to the club, but they immediately changed styles of football, making more mistakes and spending a lot of money on player salaries. Normally, the club is standard and winning games, but their only problem is failing to match strength with elite clubs in top competitions such as the UEFA Champions League. PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi, have no aspirations to altered the 56 years old Christophe Galtier. PSG is a top-flight club in Ligue One; even in their poorest form, they won the league. One thing I've come to noticed is that the absence of one character can not decreased the performance a team, the parisians have been performing well despite stepping in Leo Messi who they anticipated would give them the UCL, but they now realized all they need is talented serious squad of players, who are 100% determined to face their challenges and a good gaming strategy.
PSG is always the favorite to win the French League title. No matter how they play every season they eventually manage to win the league title but their main problem is the UEFA Champions League. They have spent a huge amount of money to achieve the crown of excellence in Europe but so far they have failed to achieve the crown of excellence in Europe. 

After Mbappe, Nasser Al-Khelaifi brought Neymar to Paris from Barca for a record transfer fee. PSG were doing very well after signing Neymar and they went to the UCL final one season but unfortunately they did not win that final. And that is their last achievement. Brought Messi from Barcelona again to strengthen their attack department. But despite spending huge money, they failed in the UEFA Champions League as before. Now maybe they will give up hope of Champions League.

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June 07, 2023, 08:55:45 AM
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Your conclusion makes sense, but nevertheless every team will try to do their best because there is a prize at stake every game they play. Lens also have good form as a competitor, but of course they don't look like the best contenders in the Champions League because other top teams tend to have strong chances and mentality.

In addition, Lens do not have much experience in the Champions League which means they will return home early after the group stage. But anything can happen, maybe next season will be different even though Lens' chances are very low.
Lens must try to bring in several new players next season and they must be consistent and more focused in Ligue 1 because conditions next season will be much different from this season, where there will be many challengers who will try to play better than before. So that Lens' opportunity to remain consistent and be able to finish in runner up position will be much more difficult, a big challenge for coaches in facing other competitors and an increasingly busy match schedule will also affect the fitness condition of the players.

Realistically Lens's chances are very small because they are not an experienced team and have a mentality in the Champions League. It will be quite difficult for Lens to get past the group stage, especially if you are in a group with a great team with experience in the Champions League. So speaking of quality and experience, it is certain that they will find it difficult to compete so their targets will definitely not be excessive.

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June 07, 2023, 09:39:15 AM
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Completely agree with you. Indeed, Lionel Messi failed to bring PSG to win the UEFA Champions League, but Lionel Messi does not deserve to be treated like he is not appreciated. I saw some news a lot from Ultras PSG who don't like it. if Lionel Messi is not appreciated, of course this will greatly affect his appearance. I think Lionel Messi wasn't too bad when he was with PSG, Messi became the top assist in the league, the second top scorer at PSG this season, but instead got that treatment from PSG ultras.

Messi's story at PSG, Like Ronaldo when he moved from Man United. The story is almost the same. Hopefully Messi can get a place and a good and appreciated club and supporters. Ronaldo has moved to Arabia. And Messi will follow Ronaldo to Arab lands or will he return to Barcelona.
Lionel Messi journey to Paris Saint Germain was indeed expected to be high and while he failed to lead the team to the Champions League it would be unfair to overlook his contribution and dismiss him. Disappointing news from some PSG ultras. Messi performance at Paris Saint Germain is commendable and he has become the league top assister and the team second best goalscorer this season. It is important to remember that player impact goes beyond winning championships. Messi skills and experience will be of immense value to any club he represents. As for his future it is still unknown whether he will follow Ronaldo mistakes and go to Arab countries or return to Barcelona. Regardless I hope he finds a club and supporter who truly appreciate his extraordinary talent and recognize his enormous contribution to football.
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June 07, 2023, 10:12:59 AM
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Right now, we have no confirmed updates about few players even many are already busy for their future work and trying to find better clubs in Arab Leagues and in other leagues as well, but few are already sure like Sergio Ramos, Neymar Jr and Messi are already out of the PSG with in next few days we will have many more updates regarding new coach as well because mostly are predicting now it's José Mourinho who is going to join this club for the UEFA glory even his track record is amazing but still it's never been easy for him to work with here.

PSG management wants to work on quality and good winning unit instead of having many star players which are never been able to perform as consistent winning unit which is a big problem for them in last few years now next season could be challenging as few other clubs are also going to spend good for the improvement.
One of the players who has been quite linked with PSG recently is Asensio where he is one of the players who has been highly linked with PSG in this summer window. I think the front line gap for the next season will be quite aggressive if Asensio really officially joins PSG. Indeed, one of the concerns for PSG next season is the departure of several important players in their squad in the transfer window, so management must move quickly to target players to strengthen the squad for next season.

Thus I think one thing that makes PSG more flexible in the transfer window is because they have fresh enough finances to bring in some quality players who can make them stronger than this season.

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June 07, 2023, 10:31:06 AM
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Right now, we have no confirmed updates about few players even many are already busy for their future work and trying to find better clubs in Arab Leagues and in other leagues as well, but few are already sure like Sergio Ramos, Neymar Jr and Messi are already out of the PSG with in next few days we will have many more updates regarding new coach as well because mostly are predicting now it's José Mourinho who is going to join this club for the UEFA glory even his track record is amazing but still it's never been easy for him to work with here.

PSG management wants to work on quality and good winning unit instead of having many star players which are never been able to perform as consistent winning unit which is a big problem for them in last few years now next season could be challenging as few other clubs are also going to spend good for the improvement.
One of the players who has been quite linked with PSG recently is Asensio where he is one of the players who has been highly linked with PSG in this summer window. I think the front line gap for the next season will be quite aggressive if Asensio really officially joins PSG. Indeed, one of the concerns for PSG next season is the departure of several important players in their squad in the transfer window, so management must move quickly to target players to strengthen the squad for next season.

Thus I think one thing that makes PSG more flexible in the transfer window is because they have fresh enough finances to bring in some quality players who can make them stronger than this season.
they did it quickly and indeed it is very likely that given the current state of the news Asensio for PSG the possibility is really very big.
Apart from the fact that he is indeed one of the players with considerable potential, Asensio is also clearly able to cover the gap where big players leave PSG, which we know at this time Messi has been confirmed and it is possible that Neymar will also follow.
Asensio can be a good answer because apart from PSG changing the condition of players who are always synonymous with those who already have names, with Asensio his rejuvenation and regeneration will also be very good.

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June 07, 2023, 10:44:19 AM
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One of the players who has been quite linked with PSG recently is Asensio where he is one of the players who has been highly linked with PSG in this summer window. I think the front line gap for the next season will be quite aggressive if Asensio really officially joins PSG.
Asensio lost his position in Real Madrid but he suddenly had a very good form in last months of the season. Even so I don't think it's enough to convince Real Madrid to sign a new contract with Asensio and I also think Asensio does not satisfy with his alternative position in Real Madrid. He will be like Morata, will move to another club to find another chance. He is not a super star player but can be very useful for a club he is playing for. Like how he is useful in Real Madrid at some points.

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Indeed, one of the concerns for PSG next season is the departure of several important players in their squad in the transfer window, so management must move quickly to target players to strengthen the squad for next season.
They will buy new star players and they will aim at young players to replace old players. With a rich club, it is normal and with their strong squad, they only need a good coach to win more. To secure their position in Ligue 1 is easy with players they have but to win Champions League, it will be big challenge for them and any coach will come to Paris this summer.

Nagelsman failed in Bayern Munich because he is a too young coach so will he succeed in PSG with many high ego players. Maybe PSG will make another bad coach choice and will waste one or two more seasons.

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June 07, 2023, 10:44:36 AM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
It is very likely that Mbappe will remain for this season but Messi will surely leave, because I believe he has played his last match in the club. If Mbappe stays and they reinforce the team with good players that are not super star, the team will be balanced but congesting one team with 3  super stars.
If Neymar leaves, Messi leaves and 5 new and good players are added to the team for reinforcement, I believe PsG will have good results for the next season champions league.

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June 07, 2023, 12:31:22 PM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
I agree with you, if they keep getting the same results for spending a lot of money, then I'd say they are better off not spending any money at all. Something is wrong with the way they run the club to make this happen. I really regret it when a team with very good financial conditions can't do much in a prestigious competition, I won't talk about them in Ligue 1, because obviously in my opinion this is not a place for them to compete on an equal footing. Maybe one or two seasons when they are like this, then it can be said to be a natural thing, but when every season they do the same thing, then there are questions to be asked.

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June 07, 2023, 12:45:43 PM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
It is very likely that Mbappe will remain for this season but Messi will surely leave, because I believe he has played his last match in the club. If Mbappe stays and they reinforce the team with good players that are not super star, the team will be balanced but congesting one team with 3  super stars.
If Neymar leaves, Messi leaves and 5 new and good players are added to the team for reinforcement, I believe PsG will have good results for the next season champions league.
the PSG team really prioritizes Mbappe, and it is very natural that he is a young player and has very good qualities whereas Messi has failed to show his best performance in his 2 seasons with PSG, he will leave and the possibility is very big.
while Neymar is also currently linked with several other teams.
if Neymar and Messi leave I'm sure PSG can find a suitable replacement to maintain the team's performance as long as Mbappe is maintained because Mbappe's influence on the PSG team is quite large.
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June 07, 2023, 01:52:29 PM
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PSG is a top-flight club in Ligue One; even in their poorest form, they won the league. One thing I've come to noticed is that the absence of one character can not decreased the performance a team, the parisians have been performing well despite stepping in Leo Messi who they anticipated would give them the UCL, but they now realized all they need is talented serious squad of players, who are 100% determined to face their challenges and a good gaming strategy.
Winning farmer league trophy is not a good achievement by PSG. The main purpose from owner to sign messi and neymar to increase the capability for PSG to compete with another team in UCL.
PSG owner was eyeing UCL as the main target that could be achieved before. There's no better thing than winning UCL. It's been targeting by manchester city as well. Galtier already sacked and that's good.

PSG can restructure its team again with the new coach and i hope the rumor will be true if naglesmann gonna be the new coach for PSG. He is very competence in building the team to be even better.
Bayern has 100% WR before he has been replaced by tuchel.

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June 07, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
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I get that fans did not get what they wanted out of Messi, but to boo him? After his last game at the club? I mean I am 100% sure that if he said he is staying then they wouldn't boo him at all, they did that because he is leaving without any achievement, but to put all of that onto just one player is silly. This dude played with 16 goals and 16 assists this season, have we seen that from all other players?

Let's see who they will get next season instead of him, and I bet that the new one will not provide that much neither. They did him injustice and that's such a big shame, I am sure that this is going to be a warning to other players not to go there. If I were a star, even if PSG offered me a lot, I may refrain from going there due to the fans.

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June 07, 2023, 04:55:45 PM
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With Messi leaving, PSG will lose power, we can all guess. He hasn't had a bad performance this year. The fact that he will leave the team has undoubtedly made it necessary to reinforce the team. On the other hand, if Mbappe leaves the team, it will be a very weak PSG offensively. They may have to spend serious money to fill this gap. I'm very curious about next year's PSG offensive line.
What's the point of spending a lot of money when you get the same result every year. That simply mean they are doing it the wrong way.
PSG needs good talented players that are consistent in their performance, not too much injured like Neymar, not old as Messi, with all respect to what he did with the team this year.
PSG will spend for new players for sure this summer, hopefully they can add something to the team.
I agree with you, if they keep getting the same results for spending a lot of money, then I'd say they are better off not spending any money at all. Something is wrong with the way they run the club to make this happen. I really regret it when a team with very good financial conditions can't do much in a prestigious competition, I won't talk about them in Ligue 1, because obviously in my opinion this is not a place for them to compete on an equal footing. Maybe one or two seasons when they are like this, then it can be said to be a natural thing, but when every season they do the same thing, then there are questions to be asked.

But why do people think that when you run a project like PSG in an inferior domestic league that the club can then compete with clubs from the Premier League or even La Liga or the Bundesliga? PSG lacks competition throughout the year, which is a big issue for them because they have to switch gears in an unrealistic manner to beat Manchester City after they have played 10 games in a row against very weak Ligue 1 teams. They don't have enough exposure to opponents on a very high level and that can't be changed no matter what management has control over the club. It is a major disadvantage of building a club in an inferior league.

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June 07, 2023, 05:11:09 PM
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I get that fans did not get what they wanted out of Messi, but to boo him? After his last game at the club? I mean I am 100% sure that if he said he is staying then they wouldn't boo him at all, they did that because he is leaving without any achievement, but to put all of that onto just one player is silly. This dude played with 16 goals and 16 assists this season, have we seen that from all other players?
Since the emergence of various speculations that occurred between Messi and Neymar, in fact, PSG fans, I think, are not too mature in providing support in this case, considering that instead of thanking them, they boo again and again, even though Messi's performance is not too bad, it's just that their expectations are too high. high in this case.
I think they need to be mature because if it continues like that the other players who are blamed will eventually not feel comfortable there.

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June 07, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
 #14417

I get that fans did not get what they wanted out of Messi, but to boo him? After his last game at the club? I mean I am 100% sure that if he said he is staying then they wouldn't boo him at all, they did that because he is leaving without any achievement, but to put all of that onto just one player is silly. This dude played with 16 goals and 16 assists this season, have we seen that from all other players?

Let's see who they will get next season instead of him, and I bet that the new one will not provide that much neither. They did him injustice and that's such a big shame, I am sure that this is going to be a warning to other players not to go there. If I were a star, even if PSG offered me a lot, I may refrain from going there due to the fans.

Messi is a talented and well-performing player. He didn't have a bad performance in PSG at all but since he didn't get good results because of many other reasons, the fans started attacking this player and they were thinking he is guilty of everything. That's why he could have enough focus to have better performance.
Leaving PSG this season was not something unexpected for us.

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June 07, 2023, 05:52:40 PM
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Messi is a talented and well-performing player. He didn't have a bad performance in PSG at all but since he didn't get good results because of many other reasons, the fans started attacking this player and they were thinking he is guilty of everything. That's why he could have enough focus to have better performance.
Leaving PSG this season was not something unexpected for us.

If Messi was a normal average player, then no one would complain to him - he more or less did some work and maybe no one would pay much attention to it. But Messi is supposedly GOAT and around him is always phenomenal PR and this obviously has consequences in terms of expectations from such a player. He failed all expectations, so the claims of the fans are quite obvious. When you buy a luxury car for 10x the price of a regular car, you expect a lot more performance than a regular car, right? Everything here works the same way.

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June 07, 2023, 06:50:39 PM
 #14419

One of the things they should improve is starting from the transfer.
Bringing in old players like Sergio and Messi before is quite good but in terms of competition they are certainly hampered by age so in this case they have to try new things by looking for fresher players of course.
Fan expectations are very high for PSG but they always make conditions where they bring in something that is actually normal like an old coach or player.
Improvements need to be made here if indeed their expectations are greater than just Ligue 1.

Well, before PSG brought in newcomers, they should have confirmed the coach they would recruit. as we know, some rumors report, Christophe Galtier, will be sacked in the next few days by Paris Saint-Germain as the club informed the manager that he will not be retained for next season. in other words, PSG will no longer be coached by Galtier.

Which is my question, so far PSG has not determined a candidate for a coach even though there are several names that are strong candidate candidates. one of them is, Julian Nagelsmann. however, PSG have confirmed to bring in two newcomers namely, Manuel Ugarte and Marco Asensio, as reported by Fabrizio Romano. wouldn't it be better if they determine the coach first instead of bringing in newcomers who might not fit into the system and style for the new PSG coach later. I can't stop thinking, is this the desire of the owner of PSG, or their technical director. if it's like this, I'm not sure that next season PSG will be much better. except, if the new coach will be able to concoct the formula for the PSG squad later. however, don't expect big.

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June 07, 2023, 07:33:11 PM
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One of the things they should improve is starting from the transfer.
Bringing in old players like Sergio and Messi before is quite good but in terms of competition they are certainly hampered by age so in this case they have to try new things by looking for fresher players of course.
Fan expectations are very high for PSG but they always make conditions where they bring in something that is actually normal like an old coach or player.
Improvements need to be made here if indeed their expectations are greater than just Ligue 1.

Well, before PSG brought in newcomers, they should have confirmed the coach they would recruit. as we know, some rumors report, Christophe Galtier, will be sacked in the next few days by Paris Saint-Germain as the club informed the manager that he will not be retained for next season. in other words, PSG will no longer be coached by Galtier.

Which is my question, so far PSG has not determined a candidate for a coach even though there are several names that are strong candidate candidates. one of them is, Julian Nagelsmann. however, PSG have confirmed to bring in two newcomers namely, Manuel Ugarte and Marco Asensio, as reported by Fabrizio Romano. wouldn't it be better if they determine the coach first instead of bringing in newcomers who might not fit into the system and style for the new PSG coach later. I can't stop thinking, is this the desire of the owner of PSG, or their technical director. if it's like this, I'm not sure that next season PSG will be much better. except, if the new coach will be able to concoct the formula for the PSG squad later. however, don't expect big.

For now it seems that Nagelsmann won't be welcomed with open arms in France by the people in general, by the media and perhaps also by his new team although the team shouldn't be a problem. They call him arrogant and they assume that he will be tested on a regular basis as soon as he gets under pressure. My opinion on that is that every coach knows when they go to PSG that it is all about pressure from morning till night as soon as you don't win a single game or even get problems in the Champions League. But when the public already has an opinion about him, it doesn't make things easier for him because everyone will be more skeptical from the beginning.

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