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[Erdogan]

Theory: They are linked to 1xbet which is another shady site. Together, they have plenty of resources which they utilise to scam gamblers in different ways.

What would be the definitive proof that they are indeed linked platforms? By "linked" I mean that they are under the same management on all important issues (I don't mean the marketing part which can be under the control of one department or even one employee within the company).

As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt about this.

- All deposits on any of the connected platforms go to the same wallets:

Code:

Bitshares wallet username: x1bit
Eos wallet username: x1bitpaygate
Stellar: GD5X7UT6V2LQPQVORA7KRNYAW4LTZWN6R4M3M5UHSGM7YIYGBN67IYP5

The same wallets are used on 1xbet.com, 1xbit.com, 1xstavka.ru, 22Bet.com, bet-1xsport.com, betwinner.com, casino-z.com, lordbetting.com, melbet.com, playwetten.com, pnxbet.com, sapphirebet.com... and God knows how many other domains. All payments on any of these platforms go to the same wallet, and the same company handles all deposits and withdrawals.

Proof:

- Both platforms use identical verification meta tags from third-party services:

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

- Back in 2016, 1xBit even confirmed that they use 1XBET's customer support:

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.

Something is missing in your quote..

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.
But its separate team and the owners.

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[decodx]

do these scammers have any way of knowing that user X of their scam site is not someone high ranking on this forum and that's why they steal this person?

there's so much that I still need to understand from these scammers, for me there's something they hide

I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum. Instead, they most probably only focus on the amounts invested and randomly select high investment for scamming reasons in my opinion.

They are actively promoting their site through a signature campaign here on this site. This means that they want gamblers from bitcointalk to actively play at their site. Also since they are running the campaign for many months, does this means they are getting the results from this marketing

There's no way 1xbet/bit scammers will be successful in attracting gamblers from this forum (it would be foolish to use a casino with such a bad reputation). I think they merely want to create the false impression they have active gamblers on their platform.

With these facts, i think they do care for the ranking of gamblers on the forum but they are least interested in solving the issues which the forum users facing at 1xbit.

It's evident that 1xbit casino doesn't care much about their reputation in this community, nor do they really care about solving any customer's complaints. In fact, they are the only company to hire known scammers, cheaters, liars and sock puppet accounts to promote their business. I think that says enough about their intentions here.

[JollyGood]

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

[decodx]

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?

[JollyGood]

I remember reading a detailed post from Erdogan not long ago which was actually very well written. I complimented him on the content of that post and told him he was intelligent and articulate and said that he should consider changing his behaviour in the forum because he has a lot to offer. If he simply stopped promoting the 1xbit scammers he might be a useful member of the community but it seems his greed and desire for pocketing the money is bigger than the stress and suffering of the 1xbit victims.

And as far as you mentioning Erdogan being a sock-puppet is concerned, I agree. I think there are several accounts on the 1xbit signature campaign that are being operated by one puppeteer who is pulling the strings and Erdogan is one of those sock-puppet accounts. If 1xbit forum representatives looked closely they would probably see the obvious patterns but they are simply paying out (or allegedly paying out) money to signature campaign participants in a failed attempt to demonstrate they are a genuine non-scam business but those funds would have been better spent returning stolen and scammed funds back to victims.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?

[Erdogan]

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

Why is not correct?

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?

I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

[decodx]

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?

I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.

[Erdogan]

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?

I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.

So it's very good that you base your opinion on evidence and facts. But I'm afraid you are wrong if you base your opinion on the screenshots that FatFork pasted here, as they only probably show the software provider's payment gateway address.
https://betb2b.com/ is a huge company that provides software for many casinos from 2007. They all probably have the same payment gate, so either betb2b and all of these casinos belong to the same person, or you are wrong. I'm afraid you can't prove it, and neither can I.

[ScamViruS]

FatFork provided an excellent display of material in his post.

It is not a hidden fact, 1xbit/1xbet/kawbet are operated by the same scammers. Your explanation about using the same wallets as a result they use the same payment provider is not correct.

So, in your opinion, all these casinos belong to one company?
Of course, it is theoretically possible, although unlikely for me.
In my opinion, everyone who uses the software from https://betb2b.com/ provider have this same payment gate and that is how you see that all this casinos use this same wallet.

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Erdogan, would you please explain how it is that all verifiable evidence points to this being the same platform, but only unsubstantiated claims by confirmed scammers suggest otherwise? You say it's theoretically possible. The evidence presented here and on the internet points to this possibility. But you believe it to be unlikely. Why? What evidence do you have?

I don't know what proof are you asking for.. and why I should give you any?
For me it would be irresponsible or even silly to have so many casinos using one address, don't you think?
I just said that all these casinos use the same software provider and this is why it can be seen like that.
I just wrote my opinion about it, you can belive in what you want.

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.

So it's very good that you base your opinion on evidence and facts. But I'm afraid you are wrong if you base your opinion on the screenshots that FatFork pasted here, as they only probably show the software provider's payment gateway address.
https://betb2b.com/ is a huge company that provides software for many casinos from 2007. They all probably have the same payment gate, so either betb2b and all of these casinos belong to the same person, or you are wrong. I'm afraid you can't prove it, and neither can I.

Then tell me clearly what you want to prove. You always want to defend 1xbit with different illogical information and fail again and again. Now that the payment gateway is being discussed here, keep waiting and you will get more proof.

Even if you are given proof, you are ignoring them and trying to hide it by showing various excuses. Find a way to deal with unresolved issues without making excuses, because no matter how hard you try to defend, lies will not win.

[Erdogan]

Then tell me clearly what you want to prove. You always want to defend 1xbit with different illogical information and fail again and again. Now that the payment gateway is being discussed here, keep waiting and you will get more proof.

Even if you are given proof, you are ignoring them and trying to hide it by showing various excuses. Find a way to deal with unresolved issues without making excuses, because no matter how hard you try to defend, lies will not win.

If you present evidence or fact, I assure you that I will not argue with it, I will only admit that you are right!

When it comes to complaints, which one do you mean? Because apart from the one that is waiting for response or is already resolved, I do not see others:

hello

any update about my issue?

Hello, we left a reply in pm.

[Haunebu]

It seems like Erdogan is always willing to offer some illogical bullshit explanation to defend his favorite casino, even though he admits that he doesn't really gamble there at all. Just like a true sock puppet.

Agreed. He is obsessed with posting nonsense regularly in order to complete his signature campaign quota every week. I keep scratching my head whenever I try to make sense of whatever bullshit he spews now and then.

I couldn't find a single 1xbit shill who could effectively defend the site through logical arguments supported by proper proof so far which isn't surprising at all.

[ScamViruS]

When it comes to complaints, which one do you mean? Because apart from the one that is waiting for response or is already resolved, I do not see others:

hello

any update about my issue?

Hello, we left a reply in pm.

We all already know that eXbit is limited to this reply of 1Xbit, because that's how they made their reputation. We don't want to see replies like this, put pressure on 1xbit to solve all the unresolved issues. After a user posts an issue, the character of 1xbit leaves that issue unresolved throughout the year with a reply to that post. So the BitcoinTalk community is very cautious about 1xbit, so your claim like this will not work.

[zidanw]

What's unfortunate is that a lot of people here don't even take into account that there are a lot of cheaters out there in the gambling world, as well as on the forum. Players trying to take advantage of bets because they already know through cameras who scored the next or even next 2 points. I mainly mean table tennis. If you look at the bets of the players who are complaining, you will see that everything is based on table tennis. That seems extremely unreliable to me and something in me tells me that those are cheaters, or at least a large part. Why should 1xbit pay those people?

[JollyGood]

And that is it... the biggest problem with the accounts in the forum that represent the 1xbit scammers. There is too much lack of transparency on their side.

When they deal with a newbie accounts they created themselves (with the intention of making themselves look good in settling their claim) they post walls of text but real victims come along to complain they try to brush it under the carpet or prolong the drama by saying they sent PMs.

1xbit and the sister websites (kawbet and 1xbet) have no real agenda except to portray themselves as genuine websites but their long term goal was always to scam their users.

hello

any update about my issue?

Hello, we left a reply in pm.

[decodx]

It's not about your opinion, it's about what you know and what you can prove. Opinions are the least accurate form of data.

I choose to believe facts and verifiable evidence rather than trust the opinion of a paid shill who has a history of scamming fellow members.

So it's very good that you base your opinion on evidence and facts. But I'm afraid you are wrong if you base your opinion on the screenshots that FatFork pasted here, as they only probably show the software provider's payment gateway address.

Probably? That doesn't sound very scientific or evidence-based.
As I see it, FatFork provided a good piece of evidence, so unless you have some other evidence to challenge it, FatFork has a valid hypothesis.

[shasan]

I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum.

They know very well that a lot of users are from the forum. And that is why they are still running signature campaign also not scamming everyone. They are scamming large depositors or large winners. They have nothing to do but they are aware about their reputation on the forum.That's why they are creating scam accusation and saying problem solved. By which they are trying to prove them that they are not scamming anymore.

[MinMan]

I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum. Instead, they most probably only focus on the amounts invested and randomly select high investment for scamming reasons in my opinion.

They are actively promoting their site through a signature campaign here on this site. This means that they want gamblers from bitcointalk to actively play at their site. Also since they are running the campaign for many months, does this means they are getting the results from this marketing
With these facts, i think they do care for the ranking of gamblers on the forum but they are least interested in solving the issues which the forum users facing at 1xbit.

Not only on this forum but I saw 1xbit being promoted anywhere on the web even on some of the applications that I use on my mobile phone, they just pop up on the ads. That is how intensive they are. On our forum, many outsiders are visiting here so they can also see what is being promoted in the signature campaign.

1xbit don't care if the one that they will scam is a bitcointalk member or not or what is its rank if it is a bitcointalk member because they already have a scam accusation here anyway and the red trust that they receive is not going to be reversed anymore so what will they do is just push their initiative.

[Marvelman]

The definition of facts is something that actually exists, reality, truth. 1xbit's statements are not facts because there is no evidence to support them. We have no way of knowing if they are true or not, there is no factual basis for the statements.

1xbit supporters are making a biased statements, with no proof. I'm sorry but I'm not going to believe something just because the guy who has a record as an obvious liar says it's true. I also wont blindly believe what a group of people that used to support other scams say is true simply because they are involved in this scam as well. They have proven themselves to be liars, scammers, and fraudsters in the past. Do you guys really want to trust such people with the fate of your money?

Just stop it.

[lienfaye]

I don't think they care about the ranking of gamblers in this forum.

They know very well that a lot of users are from the forum. And that is why they are still running signature campaign also not scamming everyone. They are scamming large depositors or large winners. They have nothing to do but they are aware about their reputation on the forum.That's why they are creating scam accusation and saying problem solved. By which they are trying to prove them that they are not scamming anymore.

Thats true, despite of the negative feedbacks for their presence on this forum, they are not tired to keep on advertising their site. Probably majority of gamblers here are already aware that they cant be trusted, but we know some gamblers who are lazy to do a research can still fall on their trap especially the newbies. If only their campaigns are not existing in this forum, then its likely their victims will be lessen.

[Chato1977]

hello

any update about my issue?

Hello, we left a reply in pm.

Wow , If I am not mistaken this was the very first time that you "Replied in PM"? for hundreds if not thousands of same cases here this is the first  account that you subjected answering through PM? what is so special in this account?

or Maybe you are trying to change strategy in answering problems from Victims of your scamming?