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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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December 16, 2022, 08:29:56 PM
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Liverpool are no less than 15 points behind league leaders Arsenal. That says a lot about the current form of Liverpool and the last few months. Perhaps things went wrong at the start of the season, even after the big defeat against Napoli in Italy. the teams from place 3 are all quite close to each other in the ranking. Liverpool should be able to finish at least 3rd with this selection. How to estimate Newcastle is difficult. It is a bit like the Leicester team that became champions a few years ago in terms of strength.

Liverpool and Chelsea are teams from the Premier League that have experienced a decline in performance even they are not able to compete with Newcastle
For Chelsea it is clear that they have not got the players they targeted in the last transfer market while Liverpool still have not found a match with their new players
Liverpool are a bit strange when they only lose one player but the impact is very real in the team.

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December 16, 2022, 08:30:21 PM
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I think the premier League is very open, I don't think arsenal will win the league,I don't know why I feel so but I don't think they will still have momentum that they have before the break,I think Manchester city are the favourite to win the league, they have the qualities and depth in the squad, Tottenham Hotspur will improve,with Conte experience I think they will go far,then Manchester United I still don't know what they are made up,let's wait and see after the Ronaldo sagas I think things might be different.
The history has proven how good arsenal during the early season but making so many blunders at the end of season. It's too early for you to judge everything before EPL will begin again. There will be lots of change gonna happen with various clubs as some clubs have been preparing some big list of players to be bought during january just like chelsea, city and MU. As far as i can see that even leicester city has been trying to hunt potential striker from another league.
The competition will be even harder with some clubs were restructuring their players. It's caused by the end of season will become the most crucial moments for arsenal. If arsenal will get lost streak and then it's end.
The good thing about Arsenal being at the top is the fact that they do not have to be champions, they are a team that rebuilt, and showing that their young core is amazing and already leading the league. Which means that they could end up working towards making this a reality one day in the future. This season they could finish second and that would be good enough.

However, they need to make sure they do not get worse, United finished 2nd in 20-21 and then last year they finished 6th, with just 58 points as well, lowest in a long long time. So if Arsenal ends up second, and fail to win, the only thing they need to care about is keep improving instead of going worse like United did.

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December 16, 2022, 08:30:39 PM
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I think Arsenal will be able to beat West Ham. Because Arsenal have enough great players who are performing better than West Ham. However, there is nothing to underestimate West Ham, they will also try hard to secure victory. But I see Arsenal winning this match.
In terms of this chance it can still be but of course this is still not certain.
Currently, the stinky players have gathered again after about a month when they returned to their respective countries to undergo a break and the world cup competition (which follows) and now they have to be demanded again to concentrate on the EPL with no less hot tension.
I think there will be a few things that are difficult especially from the fatigue factor, hopefully this isn't too disturbing.

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December 16, 2022, 08:53:26 PM
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I think the premier League is very open, I don't think arsenal will win the league,I don't know why I feel so but I don't think they will still have momentum that they have before the break,I think Manchester city are the favourite to win the league, they have the qualities and depth in the squad,

You make it sound like Arsenal won't even be in the top 4 or top 5, trust me, the mood certainly won't get worse and maybe it will even become more confident and they will lose and draw less. At the moment any defeat puts them in an uncomfortable position in the standings, which is why things will be in flux for the rest of the season, just like last season

Arsenal can't win the premier league, then leading doesn't mean anything as this isn't the first time they're going into January at the top of the table. Arsenal doesn't have it in them to win the league but they definitely deserve the top4 finish this season and I strongly think they'll achieved that. Arsenal needs champions league football, they'll definitely be more entertaining than Manchester united and Tottenham in the competition. Arsenal shoudn't be planning towards winning the league or they'll be disappointed. They should focus all their energy in finishing among the top four position.

Arsenal doesn't have a bench compared to the other teams and them leading is just because other teams has yet to pick up form and immediately they do, Arsenal will be knocked out of that position. Already their best player this season (Gabriel Jesus) is injuried and that'll definitely tell on their play. He has been very contributive to the teams brilliance this season even though he doesn't score lots of their goals.
Arsenal and Manchester city are the favourites now to win the premier league this season. So far they have been the only two teams with an outstanding performance this season and only Newcastle are looking likely to join the race at the moment. It will be fascinating to see Arsenal lifting the trophy after so many years of struggles and competing with Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool Manchester United and even Spurs. It will be really tough for Arsenal to stay consistent till the end but Nothing is impossible in football.

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December 16, 2022, 09:02:53 PM
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In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag is the right person to restore the glory of Manchester United. But it's impossible for a manager to award titles quickly. If the management and United fans can be patient and think realistically then I'm sure Ten Hag will be able to do a good job.

Right now I see Ten Hag building a strong team framework. The proof is that he doesn't care about star players like Ronaldo, for him any player who doesn't respect his decisions is always an open door. Ten Hag is very strict and disciplined, this indicates he is very serious in dealing with the Red Devils.

i wouldn't be so sure about that, let's look at the way manchester united play we can easily see that they don't play well, at least in my opinion manchester united with that coach didn't get far, see manchester united's last friendlies:
Betis 1 - 0 manchester united
Cadiz 4 - 2 manchester united

Cadiz is the penultimate team in the league, and all teams had a player who was playing in the world cup, so that means that both teams in this game were playing with the same conditions, even manchester united had a little advantage in in terms of having good quality players, but even so manchester united lost in that game, they conceded 4 goals, with that you can see that manchester united is not able to go far, and if they continue with that coach they will not be able to conquer great things, that is a fact for me. in my opinion, the management of manchester united should look for famous coaches who managed to win the champions league with several teams, that's the only way that manchester united will be able to go far, something like winning the premier league, winning the champions league or even getting win the europe league. but with this current coach i doubt that manchester united will be able to beat all that i mentioned

I should say positively about the current coach or negatively. Because Ten Hag is obviously not the best for Manchester United. They also do not know if Manchester United will be better if they bring in a new coach.  Because they have changed a few coaches in recent times, but the problem is they did not find success, almost consistently. But one thing is for sure. There is no way Manchester United is going to find the success that they are looking for, which I believe is to be able to win the English Premier League championship is not going to be done with Ten Hag. At least that’s my opinion. Manchester United also needs a lot of improvement in the squad as well. Which is not going to be done in a short period of time.

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December 16, 2022, 09:13:16 PM
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Newcastle United is currently in the third position on the table. Now, if they were not in the third position on the table, I don’t think they would have taken this so seriously. But once they got the taste of being on the top of the table, they are going to try to hold onto that position. I am quite sure that they are going to try to bring in new players and improve the squad so that they can finish in the top four at least.

I think for now they will continue to change players and continue to make them deserve to be in the top positions and it is not impossible that there will be several star players in the future.
Their current condition is very good but they are still not able to continue to be consistent with their current squad because it can be said that they have a squad that I consider normal for now even though their performance is very good.

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December 16, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
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I think Arsenal will be able to beat West Ham. Because Arsenal have enough great players who are performing better than West Ham. However, there is nothing to underestimate West Ham, they will also try hard to secure victory. But I see Arsenal winning this match.
In terms of this chance it can still be but of course this is still not certain.
Currently, the stinky players have gathered again after about a month when they returned to their respective countries to undergo a break and the world cup competition (which follows) and now they have to be demanded again to concentrate on the EPL with no less hot tension.
I think there will be a few things that are difficult especially from the fatigue factor, hopefully this isn't too disturbing.

Most of the players in the Premier League do not participate in the World Cup or have come out so more precisely they returned from holidays  Cheesy
The coaches in the Premier League are busy paying attention to players in the World Cup to be included in the target list in the upcoming transfer market

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December 16, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
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You make it sound like Arsenal won't even be in the top 4 or top 5, trust me, the mood certainly won't get worse and maybe it will even become more confident and they will lose and draw less. At the moment any defeat puts them in an uncomfortable position in the standings, which is why things will be in flux for the rest of the season, just like last season
Arsenal no longer have time to pursue the position they want because this match is very difficult for them. Unless they buy new players who are very high quality and can make an impact on their game and always get wins, then Arsenal still have a chance to return to the top position. However what is clear is that it will be very difficult for Arsenal to do that.

Difficult does not mean impossible. They can win the Premiership with this line-up if they want to. In fact, I didn't trust them at the beginning of the season either, but they did win. I did not understand how and why they hold on for so long, but they are showing results, so maybe they do not need a new squad. Yes, they will probably buy someone in the winter to strengthen and that will probably be enough

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December 16, 2022, 10:03:59 PM
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The big question is whether Arsenal can keep up this pace with victory. If you can keep it up until December 2022, why not after that too?
There is a good chance that Arsenal will try much harder this season than in previous seasons.
Arsenal already have plans for January transfer window in which they are aiming to equip the team with more experienced players to increase their squad debt which make them look very stable and competitive in the Premier league.

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Manchester City is normally a very stable team, it will be difficult to distance yourself further. And United will have to do without Ronaldo in the coming months, but in recent months he has only been a substitute. So they won't be missing anytime soon. I have the idea that they could get a real striker in the winter period. They do miss them now.
Manchester City are now facing stiff competition this season, and Arsenal's play appears to be extremely impressive, as they compete for the Premier League title. Manchester United, who are expected to follow the trend, have so many issues to sort out, including Ronaldo's departure, that they require a world-class striker to resurrect their title hopes.

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December 16, 2022, 10:21:18 PM
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Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.
Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.

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December 16, 2022, 10:32:47 PM
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Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.
Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.
Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.
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December 16, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
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Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.
Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.
Liverpool cannot win the English Premier League title and they are fully aware of it trying to chase the Premier League title is like one chasing his shadow.
However they do have large chances to make the top four as the only strong spots that have been occupied in the top four are Arsenal and Manchester City. Every other position in the top four is contestable, that is to say Liverpool has a great chance to enter into the top four if they try to be consistent with good results.

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December 16, 2022, 10:39:20 PM
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Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.
Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.
Liverpool cannot win the English Premier League title and they are fully aware of it trying to chase the Premier League title is like one chasing his shadow.
However they do have large chances to make the top four as the only strong spots that have been occupied in the top four are Arsenal and Manchester City. Every other position in the top four is contestable, that is to say Liverpool has a great chance to enter into the top four if they try to be consistent with good results.

Liverpool is out of the title race,the bad start to the season costed them badly and now they can only hope that they reach the champions league group faze amd that is really intense. Arsenal and City will be battling the entire season for the title and only them

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December 16, 2022, 10:57:30 PM
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Maybe for this season Klopp has raised the white flag to chase the top position. Currently the Reds are quite far from the top of the standings. In my opinion, the most realistic thing for Liverpool is to improve their playing system which had fallen down and then chase the top four positions. The season is still very long, in the second half there will be many changes to the standings table.
Giving up before the season ends is actually not very good for anyone, including Liverpool this season. Because Liverpool need to try with various systems and strategies to get a better position, even though it looks very unlikely to win the first position, but for the top three and top four positions as you said I think it is still very possible for Liverpool to achieve it. It's just that this season there are more strong teams in the top three and four areas of the temporary standings so this is a little tougher for Liverpool.
Liverpool cannot win the English Premier League title and they are fully aware of it trying to chase the Premier League title is like one chasing his shadow.
However they do have large chances to make the top four as the only strong spots that have been occupied in the top four are Arsenal and Manchester City. Every other position in the top four is contestable, that is to say Liverpool has a great chance to enter into the top four if they try to be consistent with good results.
Very competitive for the top four too, but it's not impossible that Liverpool will return to their best form for the rest of this season, although the chances are small. I see a small chance for Liverpool, in the top four curently at there are Newcastle and Tottenham which have a short gap of 7-8 points, although only 7 or 8 points, Newcastle performance is a real threat then also Manchester United with Ten Hag. But hopefully Liverpool can be consistent to at least secure a ticket for UCL, anything can happen.

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December 16, 2022, 10:59:27 PM
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Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.
For other leagues like Serie A where sometimes almost all clubs always experience inconsistency problems, maybe I would think this point can still be caught. but this is the EPL where strong competition always occurs and the consistency of the several clubs there is always maintained and I am quite doubtful about the possibility that Liverpool can overtake 1st place in the end. For the top 4, maybe you can, but the rest, like fighting for the title, is clearly very difficult.

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December 16, 2022, 11:03:21 PM
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Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.
For other leagues like Serie A where sometimes almost all clubs always experience inconsistency problems, maybe I would think this point can still be caught. but this is the EPL where strong competition always occurs and the consistency of the several clubs there is always maintained and I am quite doubtful about the possibility that Liverpool can overtake 1st place in the end. For the top 4, maybe you can, but the rest, like fighting for the title, is clearly very difficult.
True, with the actual EPL conditions this is a very big difference, and if we look at last season alone for the top two clubs in this case Manchester City they only lost 3 times during the season and Liverpool only lost 2 so with the difference now (15 points ) means a team that is at the top has to lose 5 times and Liverpool win when they lose 5 also to get the same thing, of course this is very difficult to do because I think this season the number of defeats for Manchester City can still be counted by one hand.

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December 16, 2022, 11:07:56 PM
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Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.

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December 16, 2022, 11:08:45 PM
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Liverpool is only 15 points away from the table-top. The Premier League hasn't gone half way. The maximum game played is only 15 matches, so Klopp has more than enough time to get to the top. If Klopp can ignore the top and aim towards claiming it, there is more than enough time to get it actualized. For me the season is very young and anything is still achievable, including winning the league from 6th position standing.
For other leagues like Serie A where sometimes almost all clubs always experience inconsistency problems, maybe I would think this point can still be caught. but this is the EPL where strong competition always occurs and the consistency of the several clubs there is always maintained and I am quite doubtful about the possibility that Liverpool can overtake 1st place in the end. For the top 4, maybe you can, but the rest, like fighting for the title, is clearly very difficult.
The premiere league is not like other league that clubs sometimes look away from but since it concerned England, am sure there will be more to the present condition of some of the clubs, I am of the view that, when the premiere league return from the world cup break, there will be a lot of changes both in players formation and style of play and clubs like Liverpool will still make their way up even if not top most top but at least among the top 5 clubs.
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December 16, 2022, 11:13:33 PM
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Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.
the performance of Liverpool and Newcastle seems to be inversely proportional. Last season Newcastle finished mid-table. but now they are doing well since the start of the season. Unlike Liverpool, which suffered a setback after the transfer market was over.
if Liverpool makes good purchases this winter, maybe it could change its position on the table. to at least get into the top 4. there is still a big chance for that.

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December 16, 2022, 11:16:41 PM
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Liverpool have just made things much more difficult for themselves by starting the season very badly. Even Newcastle have a bigger probability for the league title now. Liverpool's target is not to win the league title anyway from now on. They just want to recover as soon as possible and have a decent performance in the rest of the season.

They are full of skilled and talented players now. Mane's absence was bad at first but Diaz's coming here has changed many things for the team. If it weren't for Diaz's high effort maybe their placement in the standings would have been even worse. He has been injured for a long time but he is expected to return by the end of the year.
Diaz will not return before Mars 2023 which is a bad news for Liverpool since he was operated in the knee.. Nevertheless, it is unclear if a player could get back his full performance after a knee surgery. Most players fail to Undecided

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